there's a table to be left homeless by the natural dissolved step with several regions have been hit by flooding, the pools of leading to the death of a young child and didn't. during many others, the government is now scrambling to provide enough aid to civilians. let's find out more details on that story and everything else then to get you can visit our website all the dot com all the time with more of the latest updates and 13 minutes. see you then the hello, i'm manila chan. you are tuned into modus operandi. what a difference a year makes in the world of politics, from the american main stream, media to the halls of congress, and even states who share borders with ukraine. little by little, we've witnessed and erosion of support. today we'll talk to a former ukrainian diplomat and whistle blower who will break down just why the veneer of victory and support for the little mirror zelinski is quickly fading. all

right, let's get into the m o the . what would you do if you witnessed wrong doing by your government? how would you react if your own government sanctioned a nazi hit on your life? that's exactly what happened to our next guest in 2020, before the conflict in ukraine unfolded. and as more stories like his come to light and helps explain this, erosion of support and confidence in the proxy war waged against russia using ukrainian blood and treasure joining us for analysis and to tell us his side of the story. this is andre. tell us jenko he is a former diplomat for ukraine once based here in the west. he's held several high positions within government, including advisor to allister and prosecutor general victor shogun. andre,

thank you so much for being with us. first, i'd like to address the media smears, but you endorse back in 2020, just weeks ahead of the us elections. now, mainstream media outlets such as cnn and nbc, they wrote articles about jo calling you a disinformation agent. they said that you lied or misled us. officials about that in the tories, hunter, bite and laptop, things of that nature. now, 3 years on all this evidence has surfaced that would exonerate or vindicate you. talk to us about how these narratives have changed over the last 3 years. a. yeah, it's all the media, all the national or the west calling a russian agent precious by a lawyer. and that i'm gonna payroll, the russian government, accenture, which is total. why? and, and that's also we confirmed and there's with us is that that's one thing. but the

other thing is, everything i set everything i talked about. i'm providing this to dish about the primes, or the buyers found to very slot through blue star strategies. the log in firm which logs and that'll robbie but fortunately the work for the bible families there . i'm a sculpture time. what's the 1st the different sources? dozens of sources on the capital m. s. d, i over until groups who came out to the side of it and congress confirmed there was a set 3 years later, 2 years later on. but still today, i'm asking you to everything else and it's just ignoring whatever i said is still continues to call me a russian who just to see or me and to senior my family. i had to see. right. because of all those uh, uh, indications of the i see i have my family, i just moved because they had, we're gonna go straight into the so today i am good. and so that's online about my, my family. and this is just a great example of how the state,

if afraid of the truths how everybody is afraid of people like me. come on, tell the truth to what's of low on the situation. what happened? i was one of the person who was involved in mcdonald. fortunately to the page i saw on my for my what else is what happened there. then i was working with these things on it. and after that i saw how the reflex versus each of happening. what happened 100 with just show people was the prostate general. i was a bicycle time. when was the dish list continuing? and the american embassy was trying to block it, was it which i says that, that i was hired at restart strategies because they knew how, what was the prostate office. but when i understood what the work that they were doing, and they would try to, frankly, because i was working with rudy giuliani at the trump t v training and involved with the elections of trump stuff she on the surface. right. so i came to the fat and it came out with the truth with my e mails,

with my personal information. what i could provide at that time because the lock box, if you have a wrong turn around the block, let's just you know, the center. so they cannot, you call me out and get all the information from me. and the data and information is still in my hands. and i want to provide that to the us government us tigris, the republican party, which is 2 numbers initially when 200 buying right now. and i think this puzzle together with all the information i said 2 years ago and today with everybody else coming out with the truths this, from what i said, we're going to add to the value of the picture here. because for me, it's not about nor positive, but i don't care about the speed problems. these people problem working actually i knew that they will destroy my country. that's how they use deep writing as a wrapped corruption, right? they brought corruption more corruption to credit you. there was direction ukrainian. government was corrupt. the problem work brushing to use that as

a unit which is own benefit to destroy my country. and my country date is the greatest and destroyed by the united states government by the, by the industry. so this is why we continue to fight today. and this and everything i said was confirmed. so done and some other sources on what it is and everything i provide was personal email sent from the patient. the treat me looks like strategies, referrals. i don't want to consult with waste 100 buying personal. i wasn't even contact with the worst i was looking for. josh, there was to contact the child to finish your parents from a shuttle and that information or provide what russian does information isn't nothing because it's a personal which is that someone in communication with them which was published in a fed up report in 2020, which i started johnson center grass and everybody got today. that's everything. his name was jefferson again, which i got to choose will to well, so and ukraine is your home land. you served as

a diplomat for your country. for many years. you were based at the ukranian embassy here in the us. but then in 20191 were zalinski was elected president of ukraine on a, a platform of a friendly ties with russia, a very moderate approach. but then by 2020 zalinski was singing a different tune about russia. what happened there? what can you tell us about that timeline and how the us or the west plays into that? and, and coincidentally, we should add the u. s. revoked your visa in 2020. yeah. yeah, that's correct. i that solutions full sanctions by the us government in january might change the 19th of 2020 by the state department of us treasury department and the faucets and the legal tribunal. russian asians were connected to people as their kind of show i never knew and never got was involved with. and

without any evidence, they just put that on and walk my user name box any life. and actually i tried to job and were abroad right now because of the site shows and i've got a bunch accounts because of the restrictions on the i can i travel to the us, canada, or the case because of the essentials. but the other problem is that i got my personal got the premium, is off to g mazda to call him today. i called him for the last 34 years that he also sent to you. we, of course, was issued for it. because the us government function adjusted the stuff up to the by the instruction he did that. and as soon as i'm in the system of port a retired, i'm the only one you practice to the press the extra credit or replace the supreme court. and that's also the fact because what he did is illegal in any way. so, and i also got followed and is that the stretch by those old tongue?

and by the last, the members of parliament, a tv on tv, because when the house had started, they said it should. children go down on the street because he's a russian agent and it says he's sanctioned by the us section where you grant. so he, she shut down as a dog and that's it. we're going to try. that's how they pushed it on tv. and i personally got calls from everything on, on the team unfortunately. so this is what the training has become. but what device do you have the phone? what did he was he did come on the platform with juice and kyle was rushing everybody around the plan bell rooms. i'm going to be hurt too fast over to be for coffee. just come out of the par shinkel regime as a nice way for the crane. that's what defining the 75 percent of the brands want, doesn't matter why don't want, they want a piece of wire posterity. so you want to end deposits and the warning don't boss is drawing a bit on citizens and just what duffy said he will make

a deal. he'll come get them if the courts back on the table and find them and get on bass. lucky to pray. as an autonomy, but we praise right what we see today. the phrase is divided in total. it's lost, which is losing more, more territory. 600000 men and women really print an army, have done a lot of thousands from the russian side have died. we have our total bloodshed list, the pressure of the team and a platform of peace. what happened 3 months later after the because the president and craig got bought off by the british intelligence and my 6 in june of 20 nice e. c got caught up and brought him to london and that's when he basically made a choice. and he understood, and he knew that he was going to be in a more and more for what topic originally and government in the rush. that's what you want the top of the come in, gosh, that's what i was waiting on. was there for city grant for not one of the about

they only wanted to go against the rushes, and that's what you'll actually sign up for. you sign up for it to go from destroyers on people this ways on the country become a billionaire. that's what he promised you will have all the wealthy needs in the world, but he will topple government in russia as excellency the role of the frame specialist in london by family 6. and today it's been for the totally my watch while i'm in washington are part of the home is lots of have brings pc grant because they understood they cannot do that the 1st 3 months to go with us, look at the government boss. so the senate strong to be partial 40 of the present, and he's supported by all his people. there's only one per social left russia, and so they were all working with the west. and today they're only making one motor . industrial complex is making a profit adjustment to you in this war and showing more and more the printer's making dollars on the sense. the legacy has partners who are just a public,

which is being used in every other, partially ukraine because there's a lot position was involved in this. so just to reiterate, just so we got the square, the a 's of threatened you and your family directly. that doesn't sound very democratic to me, but i was sort of limited towards list which is a pure list. i'm on the 1st and i was told that 2 weeks before the cost that started in the right. uh, i was directed right away. the 25th of february, and by their way, i could even buy some family members that i know the smartphones, but just just to know because people were so fed up a god, so much propaganda. but officially, that's directed by members of power members retired from the sources party. another parties portion for part of that was my pictures, split our tv and my name was split up to be shut down and rest. there was someone

to work on something 6. the 1st couple weeks you took a shot and nobody cared about what happened to you. your body would be just thrown in on the street and they said, all this is what have to rush. so the more he got charged by his own resources, by whatever make a show of and nobody would investigate and does all the time that personally i was put under the trunk chose to be destroyed to kill just because i stood up for peace . just because i stood up for nothing more, just save the crate, get that done boss the part of the frame as to leave a peaceful life and the cost was praying and not the one with rush. this is what the only other for any political party. and then support any candidates. i didn't support russian president for the russian president polish president. i supported my own country and that's what they want to tell me before, because i had my independence view outside of their work. we got the box coming up next drugs, delusions of grandeur,

e g o mania. those are just some of the accusations being leveled against the one time man of the year. but let him, here's the wednesday. we'll discuss it when we return with andre. tell us, jake goes to type the m o will be right that the, the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best. most all set and set up the same assistance. must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russians cruising and split the ortiz footnote keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube,

the fitness center. for what question did you say? even twist, which is the name of the field, but you got one of the c at the end of this, i guess i'm all what had a little more of a simple thought of it. a one says and stop. i don't like that is some what are the media you got on? i'm glad you know you got one way just under then use it in video sorta. my idea that i put sona a k. i knew i love is that goes to you that i mean, i think you're going to go see, i'm a persona of a be that me court by that i, i didn't go to almost the end to see the best. so that sort of i that out of in to see if they have in the single man throughout the month, a manual and all that. i don't want to lose the remainder, not united,

be just the modem units off on, you know, the system just likes it and say i couldn't of them. but these are, let's see. let me look to see like tennessee, but i'd video in and out of this and fit on. so being at that point, i see on there the most to the boss. i mean, i suppose you, i'm them, you say the one of us the media mckinney handles those new battery needs to be for somebody that get some given what you're my policy. ok. so you see the goals in the 2nd. i mean, either it is by you say things on a saying that and then generally a going i think the end of the 2nd the welcome back to the m. o i, manila, cham not long ago, time magazine picked him as a man of the year. then just a year later,

they published an article sort of bad mouthing him in a way of in the way of unnamed sources. to talk more about this will bring back andre, tell us jenko. thank you so much for sticking around with us andre. so let's get into the circles more closely aligned to mr. zelinski. a recent time magazine feature article quoted several unnamed members of presumably his cabinet, who leveled insults against him, calling him delusional and even messy attic. they seem to say he exist in his own world, divorced from the reality on the ground that you crank and somehow still winning this war. do you have any ideas of who these unnamed sources might be? and, and what this means for the inner workings within the zalinski government. i mean, is this the 1st fracture? are there going to be more fractures to cub? it doesn't, doesn't the detractors of your mop, the vice president of the credit,

or you can call her is the one who's paying those games and has his own team that's doing all of the pop and worked around so long for solver kicking him in the bubble there's a bunch of tv i'm going to bubble because they understand the actual wage makes exchange leap across with, with the west side of the same time to understand the loss. so people are still the same way within the team, but you're mock and his surroundings are the ones for playing that game withdrawing feet for him unless they just have a gas to like put it out. for example, a guy who used to be getting a call just as an official profession, became a political experts and used to run conflict false can change in the print and make profits from different populations never with any election. and this guy was hired by the last, the druggist, p. r. such people are the ones we're trying to do again is the, let's take the same time for him and procedure. but your mouth is the biggest player who's going to run off the 1st of the 1st way. one is going to start

changing because he understands and to save himself more than anybody else because he's was responsible for more the back fused around the last the rate involved getting him in the ball was the british than anybody else. so he, he's the one we'll stick to the deluxe to this whole bubble. everybody's going to where you have to understand. that's what the 2nd thing is. so as to have those either she was a drug, deb the slot i suffered sale. it's not so just curious if you guys, if you do truck several trucks during the lecture time he got off the truck, i have to do an extra time. but after like a copy or is it going to get started going back and drops. ok. marijuana. somebody drops heavy, heavy drugs and this person is the one who's running the pressure. that's all you still do. that's why he is be use as a perfect, perfect, perfect. i'm actually to run the saw show for somebody else outside of the train.

so those main people are not, but they're not, there's a group of things is in charge of the training which is paying their own game against the exhaust the same and you're gonna get a share. my suggestions are different factions, sections within the government. and some of them are calculated as almost personal safety reasons. if i do, i don't want to get so, but we are within the consulting craig, and we have specific things as we are working together. but the rest of these people were prepared 2 years before the war started, because they're going to have their own k. if something's going to go back, you guys the last a year before the war, you started, these people knew what the role would be, what. ready start going to that. so this is what the west of agency ukraine interested in, or using these pockets within the machine to play the own situation out of the question. all right, so you guys have on elected bureaucrats as well, and your actors have similar problems to our celebrities here in the us. all right,

got it. so well, let me ask you, then, is there room for defense among the landscapes rank and file among those who have his ear? well, they have to, 1st of all, the only person who cannot, who can disagree with. and the team is, yeah, there are people who are going to disagree, but publicly they could be, can never just simply that took place within the 1st of all because the last piece that you told me he owns the experience that you can solve this k. he, the 1st was the, i meant to ask you a couple of times after he got elected. he offered me keep because on the message washington, the one point which i got to replace turn got it was not in parts team. i would never want to be part of the never seen this with it, but i mentioned before time, so this person, this person who used to play for money sauce and part of our just for which the premiums we just saw in dollars when they were drunk. and using other tools to just

to have funding, imagine this person got power, especially for the struggle throughout this career to stay on floats and make money . any way possible. the thing sounds a little, pardon rogers was there, you see, could spot all of ours waiting there and begging him to, to jump on their try. and this person to play the role, he became the, he got power support from the west. what, what, what kind of pushes that can be, it's a, just a person who go for a total destruction, do not care about anything for himself. and this person will destroy anything around that. if he thinks is a switch he thought of near. that's right, that's like exciting to me. he thought of other people as threats, regular, local experts in the print who just took all the stuff out of a piece, a lot of my friends that shot and killed him going by the secret service in the 1st

weeks of the war. just because they stood against dark feet and white piece. that's like the that's the democracy of the west, the support level. people like when i put a journalist gonzalez's in prison right now, you probably know legally, but also there's thousands of ukrainians who just that shows because of their position not supporting the war and that support exhaust. and this order was given the support it from the top, i personally but every day, but just to be with a water, anybody who doesn't sports me and has a little political weight or possibly to go on there. they have to be destroyed and looked at it. that's what happened. now what as the latest news that the european union has now reversed course and are now opening accession talks for ukraine and molto. but i mean, this would be a boon for ukraine, but wouldn't this be a detriment for the you in that this would be an economic drag for the block? first of all, the european also open such

a possibility for turkey in 2005 just so yes. ready turkey still in that situation where there are a possible return to you, but they're not on the says they, there are political situation which you have to go to for about an hour study, if you will. not for the german trying to you because of the situation you're, the union was the right house or you right. and then i also want to go further because she's the german process, one of the process countries you over all the chemistry chemical industries fall apart because of the high gas prices to pay 40 percent higher of the page for the gas prices. there's a good cause and they're buying from the united states. and right, this is just an example, one of the top, the top economic growth structures in your industry. and they're still striving them today, which is the same on other countries. so today you, what's the point is they're going to start getting pregnant fashion to the you.

what the situation, the question of what will happen when you train the surface in more territories? what is the destruction complete with all the work they see how the reactor that's watched, and that's why you bring this out and have a chassis journey. you really fast. they are afraid to learn. find him within the fast find the which is prompts you pretty well never have to fast on. then go through the file surface or inch. so right now, the thomas's promises and promises that doesn't have to show something because they cannot get somebody today. the $50000000000.00 is the pause, so they are shown the 3 gratitude that'd be probably the most always been a joy losing model of the same. we use the great, the strongly garner percent on this actually is one of the pers, she's in here as soon as the brain. unfortunately, for me, it's hard for me to say that like my own car, she's the one of the poorest, even though it was one of the richard stuck on the surgery. so today it's just a game by european that's what i believe. so there's going to be

a track for your particular fast north and he was pushing europe. good because the things you find is in your backyard. yeah. so things seem to fight for them and help them. but unfortunately, this is just a fairy tale for you. fine, because they don't really understand they cannot get your training the way you accomplish. switching the cleaners today to join the union because to be a total structure for you and your family will fall apart. and they will do that because the countries for boston will not be able to support, not because you claim they don't want to have them set up what your plan is to be use for the proxy country to the west for the does, it cannot support their own interest because over the phone because quite a lot, but it's of interest tots. it's we can put some washington funds for so that's what the last version put on washington. some of the interest of funding is on purchase . nobody else, even though they're planning them to washington,

the interest of the truck, i think that's what they have to do. and then we can start talking about you or something else after the war as we can continue this talk when we print well, never start watching. he joined the system with the other possibilities to join other economical institutions around the world. the more possibility for trying to, to change it to come a real from the was, it was not from your show. andrea tell her shank or former diplomat for ukraine. thank you so much for sharing your story and giving us your analysis. we certainly wish you and your family well and maybe one day, a safe home coming. it was great to be on your shows and it'll keep on again and all the best you thank you. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that takes deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila chan. thank you so much for tuning, and we'll see you again next time to figure out the ammo. the

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