jayce said, israel has 30 days to implement these measures and report back to the i c j. do you think israel will do what it's being told? so yes, they have to comply with them with the image of the same as indicated by the i. c, g is not exceptional, isn't they must comply and then uh they owe me just so that within that you and then start chose to do with non compliance. it isn't the interest of the referral that they comply. so i do believe that there is no any, that is a non negotiable, the issue of compliance and the issue of international law. we need to be in there who is based society. but as you well know, and the lady pandora, that's how that goes far minister was saying the in, in, in, in just simply exercising the or that had the down from the i c j. they will have to be a ceasefire in gaza. what are your thoughts on that?

does that sound accurate to use? yes, they shouldn't be. i mean, when you look at it measures the court. this point with regards to how the military corporations should be or should not be conducted and so forth. is a clear indication that the only practical outcome is that they should be assessed file and they should be measures that are put in place to how to do money, teddy and $8.00, which civilian infrastructure and so forth. so indeed it is a going towards what we as all difficult to crested and then also you wouldn't be aware. the court also has a wider discretion in terms of the or does it can provide obviously as you well know, it was pretoria that put forward this case to the i c. j. um are you aware? is it, is it, don't you question have it, are you aware of any attempts to put any pressure on south african lawyers during o of this? do you, would you know anything about that?

so the no, no, no, i'm not aware of in the anything. what else they have done an exceptional job for instagram. they presented the case and we believed it would be able to continue with the adult while i'm very glad to hear that. do you, do you think that if the fighting stall, do you think the international community should make efforts to ensure that how boss no longer poses a threat to the existence of israel? so yes, i do believe that the international community is it or to play, to put pressure for to the state, or is that i have to accept a 2 state solution is advocated for by do you end as allusions in order to expect that then how much will also comply with a court order is that you have here with a goes to the issue of the release of hostages and so forth. so they need to comply also with the court order. as i understand they're all south african lawyers who

are preparing a lawsuit against the united states and the u. k. for complicity in israel and the actions in gaza. how do you assess this initiative? and given the results of today's code, do you think it will succeed? no i will not be able to comment on the initiative because as government with no data increased by that. so we're, we're not always a private lawyer initiative says government, we have not been placed we, we have not paid endorsed to initiating so relieved each to dot on 2 of what did you end up doing for us to be able to come and say at this stage we kind of comment fair enough minutes that i'm other. i appreciate that one of the comments coming from south africa's foreign minister and the lady pandora. she said israel has very powerful friends who i hope will force tel aviv too. who is not lady of tiring,

soon the young of yesterday you a web of in the us, the playoffs that they've been providing them support and so forth. so we do believe that this court order will bring an end to to infinity will bring an end to exceptional disease, will ensure that the state of is that i am co confirm on comply with the genocide convention irrespective of difference. but they may have d, we, we're still waiting for common reactions to come out of televi. we've got our middle east bureau chief standing by with hopeful details. what would be your expectations mister administer for reactions from tele v, reacting to the i. c. j today. and i think the expectation is that the court order must be completed. i understand,

i understand. do you, do you, do you think what, what will be the general sentiment among the south african population? as we all know, who is pretoria, who 1st put this case to the i c j, do we know? well the sentiment is in job up today. the yeah, i think we have got too many technical issues here, ronald. i'm so sorry the signal drops and it drops out. south africa's justice minister ronald la moda, joining us here in austin international section. and there we go. thank you for your time. hello, we are here in the program. we did discuss the case ahead of the ruling of the i c j. the panel of a sister you'll have to launch defense minister of israel,

announced that he had ordered a complete siege of guys, a city, and there then that there would be no electricity, no food, no fuel. and that everything was closed on the follow up question of paul, who wields the power but most importantly, economic and military power. the fact that it's gotten to this point, i bought this genocide of this catastrophe. oh, the wide variety of atrocities that have been visited upon the kind of thing and people, not just since the 7th october. we can take the fall back to 1942 to 1967. we have talked about decades of decades of to 6. uh uh, so known your state that has been very impressive that has been abusing that has

been a pressing exploring change that has been demonizing these people for a very long time. the question is, how has that been allowed to go on the b 2 for so long a period? again, you take question. the power of the international military and political economic gilbo took funds of forces in particular, which the license and the full backing of the year. please come west led by the united states of america. he's running his head and license to do as it pleases. we do a thing that is that inspection does exceed the physical woods of the case that this sort of get has brought before into the court of justice. and they have to be doing is pretty typical, tend to destroy, you know, does a as part of the public in the population. and of course they have committed acts

of genocide. the intent is over when, and i think that that case has been made just from this. she has the key of destruction, distractions of schools of us. but those and you know, those most of the judges of the public infrastructure, dudley. and i think as a possible, and i think that we try to put in the mood 16. i agree, you know, is there any government, these rights you to, is it came in a to the entire community and put it as well as people could about 8 of, of the united states has incriminated the intent, which is of cause things gather of this particular population, what the sort of the drugs done is something that people to syrians would never, ever forget. we are totally inducted for what south africa did in support of snippets doing it's, by the way, not only was a kind of the case, i guess is a and i suggest, but also the next step, what the south africa, the,

the individual gold star was that is i think is the case a, i think so what happened with the there's a president and suits of them last week is an indication of that. i don't know if you've heard of most, but do you have that? he was, there was a case against him. the switzerland was us to apprehend him for genocide. so if there's a besides the not the case, i can tell you love to see him. so he will, for, should we be able to leave as a, to travel anywhere. because justice, when, when the father, of course is behaving with infinity that they have, they not that states that you care about a less than bowers in the supporting what they're doing. but i think the time for reckoning is no desire for the 1st time in the system. they is facing a judgment there and again, tax to south africa. well the

a lot directly to god. so now with a situation in the southern pottery enclave is just dire. a local health officials say id of attacks and the city of con eunice, killing $200.00 injury, nearly $400.00 in what 24 hours comes. as israel attacked 3 hospitals and the reach the medical aid for the palestinians, humanitarian organizations says the facilities are no longer functional. and the number of casualties just keeps on rise. as well by 25000 kil, since the beginning of october mostly women and children from the south to the north where 20 people have been killed and a 150 wounded off to they were chewing for humanitarian aid and gaza city and they were partly hit by an as ready strike, and warning, disturbing images are coming your way. now, dozens of civilians were taken to the out chief hospital. however, the local officials wanted more lives may still be lost due to the simple lack of doctors and the ability there. the hospitals and why is there else reportedly

looking at the claims. some survivors say they will deliberately talk what happened is that people went out to get their food for the day, but they couldn't find anything to eat. he's really tank suddenly appeared and hate people with shells. we had to bring him to the hospital on the donkey cart. we're going to buy flat land. we're waiting for the trucks when these rarely tags hit us with 4 shells. young people were killed and all this, what do you just? i was heated my feet and in my hands, dozens have been killed and hundreds injured. even the injuries of strange injuries where the body is torn. it's crazy is right, is carrying out a mass scare against these defenseless, innocent civilians in gauze. that's to go out looking for food while under siege while killing people. and while israel is enforcing a criminal policy against the populace, civil defense cruise is still recovering, injured people and dead bodies from this side, the occupation is still controlling the area and preventing us from entering to

recover anyone who's less that there are people that we've not been able to recover because the place to is ready moved. 3 vehicles, the situation is very difficult. it is as if we have gone back and gone to say date to the early days of the bloody war and the gaza strip. well, you probably know, garza has suffered all sorts of communications blackouts and making it challenging to re recheck reporters and all people on the ground. for example, for 5 days we've been unable to contact our regular contribute have been sort of schumann, is that last known location was the nasa or medical complex in hon units, which is now as we understand surrounded by israeli forces. just one moment here are some highlights from his recent reports, rossi, a number for the non stop quiet alternative, a non stop drones likes, non stop buzzing or by doing some of us today. we have an exclusive footage inside

the more you have and also hospital in the south over of the script. here continue . flight for the lights continued stage bit fast. we're going to do some interviews with some people who left some of the areas that are not safe and see what they think, see how they are living. thank you to the audience forthwith tediously. this thing to us? well they, we spoke to his mother. she feared as a son may be in the hands of the idea. i has to have sunday 21st about 12 am. you always text me nice messages this a good nice my my life. you sweet. see a sooner so i left for you to send vantage also. and of course the last time the morning i sent him some messages, but he didn't answer applies started. so it is for black out. and then again i sent him messages. i've got messages under the flag, and then for 2 days we thought it's not safe. you know the bad communication thing

. but when it became more than 3 days by the last 2 months or can't do that even finish back out bad communication. few times. it's best to go anywhere to get some connection. then we started to, he was telling us he might be in the hospital in critical spit out. as i saw, some people said he left off or something that he's not there and nobody knows where he is. i asked you, he must be taken right. good. is it? i excuse doing everything for the human. that is a, it doesn't want this to happen. and of course, telling everybody in the, in the few words in english about the situation, helping to each the employees to the whole entire free work and get support to help disobedience. of course, that's important that so i assume he wants to and get it. and when they want to announce it costs, because he has been taken much sewage. he had the contract with a price for to cut off just 2 days before the war. he changed always his mind when he went to find you and is the sort that people wanted him because of his english

language and as a canadian. so hopefully the entire word because at the beginning the guns over is or it was too much about lies. that was be heading about too much lies in the news and they wanted somebody who speaks english, that teams change is perfect. and the, and he managed to do that, and every time i, sometimes i think the class with m. p as in leave easily. he's upset if i told him the idea assistance my, my men come not leave. okay. and i'm not in need of the situation. people need me here can never, never accepted a word from me if i told him leave even at the last minute when was that? what is the solution that's i tell them i think that must be a sense that they knew it's going to put con no. so they knew they would come and they had to evacuate to him and others. so please leave cause i'm not supposed to get them. now i've seen that coming. he said no mama is going to, it's ok. it will when you have a ceasefire, the only thing was worried to me that you are not on there because much. so it is not for him, we got stuck, his wife's room, does that and i can go there if anything happened to you there, how can i do we do?

how can i take care of you? i want to be with you with that's the only thing i want. somebody can't take me to an office or to con you. and if i want to for my son, i want to look for him. but we will keep you posted on this story surrounding the world and coming out of the international court of justice today, which just about an hour or so ago will also be gauging reaction from israel and neighboring countries in the region as well. phenomena program to the ukraine conflict with russian forces that repelled 3 attacks if you're crazy and troops and that's on yet. square public. the russian administer defense saying 4 of key spaces were a hit and the 3 drone teams were destroyed in air and artillery strides. now the following footage is to fixing some of the fighting set to show a russian drone attack on ukrainian. i'm a senior correspondent motor and as the as this information as well. well, literally overlooking the front line. and this is susan. as high as it is safe to

be though it isn't safe for to try to minimize the time. here we are in the outskirts of modern cup where ukrainian defenses have crumbled all crumbling. but that is not to say that they're written off. the front line is between us and 5 city in the distance that is across the gulf. it is currently held by euclidean troops. it is under the control. the front line is about about halfway between us and them. over there, you can, you know, at 10 we despise all the complaints we've been hearing in the west, then press from the equations about them. you do more immunization move shelves. that has been a huge about the shedding today by you created troops of smoke over in the distance from recent impacts. but since the full of 90 good and my income was the longest running and most of the bloodiest bottles of these conflicts since the capture and

the liberation of money to buy russian troops, they have found out northwoods towards cross the gulf. good, a mazda, a weeks kilometers covered to the west, we have a good record of which russian troops of already entered it is the next town westwards. off the body to south towards nova missed call of goods varies. no said that there's a shortage among ukrainians of artillery shouts provided by the west. and when the guns go quiet, the drones, the kindly cods the drones ladder is the biggest danger to us and to many others. uh the, the drones come out hunting. but the situation is such that you create a throwing thousands, thousands of drafted conscripted troops into the meat ground into the front lines here, hastily erected a front blood, as we said, desperately trying to trying to hold will to,

to fight back what's in the beat to stop the russian, the drugs the u. s. department of defense that they're looking into, the potential use of american weapons, taking a russian transport and across out of the sky is over belgrade. the downing of the play and carrying ukrainian prisoners of war was a pre meditated crime by t of those are the words of russians. definitely ambassador to the un during emotions, the security council session a see me see. so i'm gonna see what the dates are. we have today indicates that we dealing with a deliberate premeditated crime. the current in leadership was well aware of the roof and method of transporting soldiers to the place of the pre agreed exchange. but these monstrous actions, the zalinski regime, if of course it still has at least some control over the actions of its militants, as once again shown is taken to in nature and complete incompetence. the fact that it's ready to sacrifice any number of his own citizens, but western j political interest is no secret to anyone in ukraine. a meeting of

the un security council was convenience to discuss the recent downing of an aircraft that contained a number of ukrainian prisoners of war were headed for a prisoner swamp. now, at the meeting, the russian delegation questioned why it so the french government, which is currently acting as the president of the security council, with his team member body that leads the un. why it took them so long to organize this need it. russia had wanted to hold an emergency meeting in the direct aftermath of the incident. however, there was a delay. now frances, this is merely a procedural concern. however, it appeared to the russian representatives that this was yet another example. now the western countries trying to shield the key of government for many criticism or revelations of its now practices and a negative activities. i've no doubt that our west and colleagues will also

practice bubble expressions today with the sole purpose of protecting the public key of regime in any way. they as well as leaders in camp do not care as whole about the dead russians and ukrainians who for the collective west to just 2nd class citizens and expendable materials. and the geo political crusade against russia today was the need is a trying to convince the public this, such a situation is a profitable investment and an attractive business project. the cynicism of such arguments is simply off the scale. there are many indicate sions that these could be the american patriot as a german, made iris t's if this has confirmed the western countries. but sight of these weapons will turn out to be direct. accomplices in this crime statements from the united states, the i ching, them, and other countries that are opposed to russia and backing ukraine were rather short. they simply blamed the entire incident on russia, saying that the war, the entire war was simply russia's fault. the united nations is not in a position to verify these reports. for the circumstances of crush. what is clear

is that the incident took place in the context of versus invasion of ukraine and ongoing war. one thing is clear when president fruits and made the decisions were leaky and very g crane. to demonstrate that his title disregard for the value of human life. while we work together the facts and aspartame, what happened? it bears repeating that the kremlin bear was full and ultimate responsibility for starting and continuing this war. later in the meeting, there was a rather harsh exchange between the ukrainian representative and the russian. and basset or the ukraine representative made some pretty outrages claims, doubting the presence of the p. o. w is on the plane, etc. the russian deputy ambassador quickly took her to task. here's the exchange for us. and propaganda was suspiciously fast into an sleigh to eastern statements about the shooting down of the rush,

and i'll send it to 6 aircraft that had allegedly transported to clean and peel these. according to our military intelligence, only 5 bodies were sent to the local mark in belgrade, and no human remains are visible on views from the crash site. each month, just a little quicker to the micro will show up in the apparently the instruction that my colleague received was to continue lying and protecting the keyboard. james, the list where i published and they were given to the create inside, in accordance with the stablish procedure. as has been done many times. it's absolutely pointless to deny it. unlike the list of the victims of the publication butcher, which we can not to obtain and constantly inquire about. the meeting showed some very clear differences between the major countries represented on the council. and it also highlighted that while russia has put forward a pretty straightforward account of the events of what happened, how this plane was taken down, we don't have a very solid answer from ukrainian figures or from western leaders. we're backing

them. and the fact that it could have been us supplied or western supplied weapons that shot down this airplane filled with prisoners of war. it forces many to raise questions about the continued morality and advocacy of fund as government and ukraine. that continues to throw the lives of its citizens away in a conflict with russia. a conflict that many say has already ended and is already pretty much over. yeah, we got the thoughts of a former un weapons inspector, scott ritter now. he says it's clear, the front switch kindly presides over the security council deliberately postpone rushers request for an immediate investigation into the downing of his transport aircraft. frances, concerned that if russia were able to gain access to the security council and put its case before and at the security council, the russian narrative, which is of course, fact based based upon international law,

would dominate. and so what france is doing is exercise in a tool that it has as the president of the security council to deny russia, the opportunity to score victory in the information with more that's taking place regarding ukraine. this is purely about censorship on the international stage, but i don't think ukraine is just going to be able to ignore this and pretend it didn't happen, or try to transfer all responsibility to russia. and the families of the, of the dead prisoners of war simply aren't going to allow that to happen to united states has no ammunition. that there's no facts out there that the united states can twist or manipulate to its advantage. at the, the bottom line is that the, you know, ukraine is 100 percent in the wrong here. and so united states doesn't have a moral obstacle out there. there was then we wouldn't provide, we'd have stopped providing the webpage to create a long time ago. reality the united states isn't suddenly going to grow conscience

and say, oh my goodness, our weapons were misused by the ukrainians. we don't care. so don't expect anything that's that's morally based from the united states when it comes to. it's continued support for you. great. but of course, the original authorities have opened a criminal case into the downing of this military aircraft calling in a tower attack. as you know, the jet was carrying 65 ukrainian, p o w is on their way to a prison, a swap. the airplane was struck by anti aircraft missiles launched by keeps forces that is, according to moscow, the black boxes happy to recover, and everybody on board the flight was killed. now a church invalid road has held a memorial service of a tribute to the crew and we spoke to the wife with the aircraft to come on to spanish, often busy there was no, i found out about the tragedy before the news came. i got a call from the military headquarters, its our 10th anniversary this year. we have 2 little girls. i don't know what to say at this moment. my daughters haven't found out yet. i'm going to tell them not

now, but maybe in a month were visiting my mother now. my husband was supposed to meet us at the train station when we returned. our daughters loved him so much. they always look forward to his return from trips. they still ask if their dad is going to meet them once they return home. i don't know how we're going to live without him. a lot of updates right now too with his story going up online at all to you dot com. check out the export analysis of what happened to that illusion. brush and transport across from the meantime. your program returning in about 2 minutes the the,

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defends israel's colonial settlement of project. the rest of the world looks on in anger and discussed. what we're witnessing is the end of the west, 500 years of global hegemony. it is lost. the court further considers that israel must ensure with immediate effect that its military forces do not commit any of the aforementioned depths at the international court of justice, instructing israel to take all necessary measures to prevent genocide in gaza. as hundreds of pro palestinian protest is in front of the us top of the cold right there showing there's still a doubt who had palestinian started smooth designee as a cold bed delivering it to bodies on what off emergency provisions as demanded by south africa. the gods are as follows and we have lost contact with our regular