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deals so easily as false realities are promoted is true around the world and people are low to sleep by games video. and i have your v and a handful of finance years around the globe are able to manipulate the entire system, grading their own public enemy's as a masses. but many people still believe they live in a nation state and they work the assumptions that are no longer valid because banks are not banks. newspapers are not used papers anymore. and understanding that gap between names and things is a critical issue. as we are led to chase after the latest bad guy or blame a few bad apples in the us, the american present july then formulates this current inflection point moment as a choice between democracies and i talk receives,
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which i think both in will sco and beijing is interpreted as a choice between years dominance and political and economic affairs and more poll assenture the world with various forms of government, usually customized to local conditions and local societies. when are you looking to global trends? when you look at um, so to sticks? where do you think the world is moving beyond, let's say, the united states, russia in china? well, a choice between democracy and autocracy is a false one. because the ultimate issue is about who controls information the means of production and distribution, and who controls money in debt and increasingly in the united states, or for that matter in china, russia in other countries, is controlled by multinational corporations which are not an alternative government, but are rather a form of government itself, which is unaccountable. and so we're really fighting against essentially strawberry
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charlotte and jerry slavery. busy tall terry newsome and we need the grass assessments of yours understand how a daily lives is increasingly controlled by i. 2 companies in a variety of other powers, from the bottom up and the bricks offered as an alternative in a limited sense. in it, they oppose a slaughter, gaza, they don't want that war mondrey of nato, and that's good. but they're not excluded from control by global capital. well, the question about the proposition, because for example, in russia right now, we are not at all or will are excluded uh, primarily from the implants of the global capital simply because of the american sanctions. i mean, the american capital has cut us off off from russia and just,
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i'm extend from, from china as well because of the chinese government is controlling, imposing controls on what's happening within the societies. and this is, i think, a coastal issue that underlies this somewhat artificial distinction between um i talk chrissy and democracy because i think at the base of replies a totally different understanding of what makes. i'm with governors, both russia, china, and many other societies favor society of framework. a framework that is to deliver social woods rather than individual. busy list gains, i wonder, and i know you don't leave it in the united states or don't reside in the united states at the moment. but when do you think concerts is good governance for an average american disease? then fortunately in united states, increasingly, uh, government has been discredited. i do campaigns good standing back around reagan, the say the enemy, government is the enemy and somehow the private sector,
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which is in fact another form of intel turn and governance run by multinational corporations and banks as an alternative. and that is reaching the extreme. now in which government and politicians represent different flavors of multinational corporations and as obamacare, the power representing i p facebook, google. busy as opposed to try who represented certain factions of real estate, speculators and military contractors and what and other than other groups. so it's, it is a form of democracy, but it has nothing to do with citizens anymore. well, i want to describe it as a form of oligarchy. i mean, oh, oh no, i agree that i, i don't, i want to say personally, however, that china, russia, and other countries are also the wrestling with the same problem. said that it is
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a universal issue and it requires us to go back a basically a to the arguments going on at the, at the beginning of the 1st world war, which was the contradiction between the nation state and global finance. but you know, i think one very important and sometimes criticized feature of both a russian and chinese approach to governance is a very meticulous attention to the most trivial aspects of life sewage to transportation. you know, education, public health care, all those boring, boring things. uh that, uh, for example, in the west may be seen as excessive control or, you know, anatomy said, but from the position of, you know, the russian society, this is the most, this is what makes of the substance of live. this is why what people care most about rather than some abstract concerns, even let's say the warren gather as horrible it is as may seem, it does not have
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a direct influence on people's lives. but if your sewage system doesn't function, it does affect both of your ability to leave your life. and actually many of your freedoms tend to be a human being functioning as human beings. so i wonder if you think the americans, uh, care about this aspect of, you know, the branding bought. there is just something that is very boring very when they know it's very ideological, but at the same time something that contributes to the ground to live. so my, my job is not to judge a china or russia, but that's all throughout the united states. and it's clear that one of the great damages that was great, that was done the united states by systematic effort, basically from the reagan administration on a, to destroy a bureaucracy of civil service and the role of the intellectual and governance. essentially, we've ended up with no government. so the, the,
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the rhetoric and say, someone like donald trump is a government is evil and that we should get rid of this evil bureaucrats. but in fact, what has happened is there are no smart bureaucrats. there are no experts in government, the state department, i mean essentially into the trap administration under, on peo. but the whole role of the administration was to get rid of all experts i saw that it was, decisions can be made by consulting firms, representing multinational banks and corporations essentially, and billionaires and their strategic teams. so this is how government is taking place. the united states and the solution is yes, exactly, start to get some form of government again. and would you have people long term who have expertise, who's feel of their responsibility is not this or the rich, but this are the people bullying. a civil service and civil service was
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based in the british civil service system. and the american civil service system was exclusively based upon the chinese model from the team dynasty. and i started a chinese studies originally. i was very inspired by chinese and korean and japanese versions of confusion, civil service. and uh, i want to ever be, oh, sorry for interrupting, but i think that it almost has a religious aspect to it. it's considered to be a duty and honor to serve your people to serve your country. do you think that aspect of the patriot is not something that you need to promote on the other side of the world of that aspect of very humble, pat, patriotism, serving your community, serving your nation? do you think it's still present within your society? we're also in the united states i, there are obviously people who are struggling to find some way of expressing their
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concern about the country and the direction that is going. unfortunately, we have this sort of hall of mirrors in which various i pay consultants have tried to distract us towards a false. we called cardboard messiahs, like donald trump and his crypto, fascist take approach. a based on at the national as um, and the site with a deep state by someone who's funded by the state or brock obama, who supposedly the 1st african american. but it was backed by facebook and google. busy busy other id and entertainment. uh theres. uh and so we have moved away from that. but the ultimate issue, i think is the role of the intellectual. but it, whether it's in china, russia, or the united states, that you have cable with specialized education, which not everyone can have. is that something to be ashamed? uh, uh, buddy has to be dedicated to the interest of the common people. and this
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is not a new idea, it didn't start with the russian revolution. it was march, it goes back in history. this idea that the benefits you receive of higher educate, shouldn't specialize. learning should be devoted to the people. what i always fascinated me in your country is how the americans are using persuasion tactics and how they're able to persuade themselves of the most unbelievable and factually unsustainable. narratives, for example, in gal a tearing is most considered to be one of the american values. and yet when you look at the policy objectively, it is pretty clear that the entire system, both economic and political system is geared towards and reaching the rage and then powerful, empowering the powerful. how do you explain these gullibility here for the lack of a better? won't because they americans do believe that they leaving meritocracy and that they
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leaving the free society it well essentially we're looking at a collapse of the invisible aspect of the society and that is the k o values in the collapse of civilization and institutions. though it's invisible, but essentially what we're seeing is that politicians are no longer politicians. there is self serving. and intellectuals are increasingly for sale. and we saw that now we see it now in terms of this. so the false identity politics in which the militarization of american society is hidden by praising the fact that women are asking americans are being promoted to be generals in which the domination, without any credentials for that or experience necessary by that well. so it's, it's a false, uh, uh, consciousness, basically, uh,
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that's being promoted. and i think it's in indicative of a collapsing system that the united states obviously, is barely united states as a global system. and it, i just following that similar trajectory to the soviet union. uh, so the units collapse, obviously had, are found in plaque far beyond the union, including north korea and all, lots of other countries who had bought into this economic system has a price range. i have to stop here right here. we need to take a short break, but we will be back in just a few moments state you and the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a
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robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show you alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than to the area. i mean with the artificial intelligence we have summoning the theme in the robot must protect this phone. existence was alexis the most affordable cuz it was the business. and you agree in the 3 of the, the, the, you know, as soon as i know mary comes green. well,
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the, i'm back to wells, of course, with emanuel pastries, president of the asia institute as a former green party candidate for the years presidency it professor pastries. before the break. we were talking about the differences between the american system or the western system of liberal democracy and various uh,
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so called autocratic systems. um the, let's speak can briefly about the, the american electoral affairs because the united states is entering a very interesting election here in which, uh we have the same old choice that uh you had uh, back in 2020 i only, that's in this case. the roles are reversed, i heard the joke and they are the day that's back in 2020 and by them around in order to prevent them from seeing and office. now trump is doing the same. i want to ask you to somebody who has spent a lot of time in the united states. i started there, have friends there. i know that this is a country with very talented, very energetic, intellectually enlightened population. there are many bride people there. there are many people who are genuinely authentically concerned about the country, about people around them. why do you think you are faced with this same old choice
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and you have to? yeah. well, this 2nd election between buying is in a vegetative state and try proves, sort of a pro wrestler turn politician. and now, i mean a good guy now handled by the there's is truly a zombie apocalypse. and i think the comparison of which has been made with the lease of the union and refreshing as may have to be 7300 pounds. we died at 69 and on the general scale, who died at 73, all as we were younger than buying. and trump is quite a meaningful that we're really are the aging of this political figures. it resembles a wait empire, this goes back to the room, is essentially old. people are e r y much better as rulers if decisions are being made in the shadows and behind the curtains. so it represents a decay of institutions really. and that really is extremely serious because so
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many countries base their systems on the assumptions the united states works. but i also think as an american or for that matter, as a citizen to be or that we also have to be detached. we have to recognize that republics throughout history from you know, the greeks and romans usually last for 250 years that they don't last longer than that. are they, they tend to fall into a state of, of decay. and this is a natural process. so we should detach ourselves and recognize this as a predictable crisis, and we have to respond to it. and then other states makes it very difficult for the rest of the world to stay depressed because it keeps uh, sort of projecting its own in a problems onto the rest of us. but for some reason, we all have to adopt this a really in democratic system that doesn't seem to be functioning within the united states as your having described. and yet, it is being pushed onto the rest of the world as if to settle all of us with the
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american players ation and the american death and the american problems and the various issues within the american society. and i want to ask you, why do you seeing both the american leadership and the american people find it prudent to spend resources on financing the worst overseas on finding rivals or advertisers overseas. instead of, you know, taking this turn in ward it and try to address whatever resources they have their own in their issues. well, i wasn't saying that we should be detached in the sense that it's ok. i was saying rather that in our attempt to assess the problem that we need to do in, in a objective and scientific math. but it's extremely serious. so basically, we haven't ever seen a defined new ministration which is linked to another national ministration. and of course, to the british administration,
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which i've decided that they're willing to push for world war in order to stay in power in order because they know that their full corruption is exposed, they'll all go to jail. i mean, it's extremely dangerous. so i wasn't making why that the situation in terms of the psychology of americans. i think the best analogy for understanding psychology is one of i think the analogy to insects and incest is in the cases of people who are abused by their parents. they often refused to recognize their victims or incest, somebody's for decades. and the reason is that their betrayal of, of, of being abused by someone that one trusted as a father and mother or brother sister is so disturbing that it's easier to pretend it didn't happen or to blame a 3rd party. that it is to admit the truth. and the type is that american citizens, whether it's starting mean i would start with the not,
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but the $911.00 incident. but there are a whole series of other things, including massive transfer, trillions of dollars do quantitative easing. so called cobit release, which somebody like 30 trillion dollars was transferred to the dns and private equity banks. this is so disturbing that it's easier psychologically to just pretend it didn't happen. then they confronted and that was really what my campaign was about. was to say, i have no money in black, the media. but i'm going to tell the truth. this is, you know what really have and well as somebody who studies wps psychology, i find your matter for both accurate and very suddenly and, but i think it's also, you know, it rings true because if we look at the way the campaigns are conducted or have been conducted over the decades is essentially the priming of very intense emotions . there's very little emotional or mental differentiation,
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i think one russian extra and describe it as a, as a politics of fear or fear mongering on the democratic side versus the politics of fury on the republican side on when you pump this very strong in terms of motions no wonder in that half of the population will be conflicted with the, with the results of, of those elections. and it would be almost impossible to govern or implement any policy changes there after before we go into discussing your own uh, run uh, intended to run for the presidency. can i ask you what can possibly put the american political discourse, american political lives into a more civil, the more sort of humanist way human is. i mean, it actually caring about people who you're supposed to be uh, courting, rather than your own vested interest. well, i think the change has to be from the bottom of it has to be from citizens who
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engage or they themselves, they create a model for what a government could be based upon their interaction with the people around. and that this is, it's, uh, there's a, uh, a political scientist, the data scope. well, who wrote a book called diminished democracy in which he argues, i think, very convincingly that the only way to have a democracy is a government level. is this local systems of participation, but whether it's clubs or sports teams or whatever, i run me privately. and so the way to create a positive cycle towards democracy is to start having democracy, starting with your fellow how you interact from your family, your neighbors, and your people around you. and that, that will put pressure from the low on the system. now, um, as i mentioned to you, you made an attempt to run for presidency yourself as far as i understand you are
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no longer running. but what were the changes, or what were some of the ideas that you hope to bring to the, to the political process? and why did you think that it was possible to do that? well, so i had originally run as an independent and do in 2020 and given a series of speeches. and there were a group within the green party, which is the 3rd largest in terms of number of people party in the united states. i do want to do a treat me for the green party. they would distinguish that group as being not necessarily progressive or conservative. they are open to many different perspectives, but they were focused on the state crime issue. and so my position, which was the sort of 3, which is a $911.00 truth kobe, truth and federal reserve to, uh, was matched up reverie, well, was accurate,
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and they, they recruited me, they got me registered as a candidate. they promoted me. but basically, i think the word went down within the green party. i notice that the i was, i was not to be supported. so many able to raise any funds. and so after a month, not having any money to do anything and being blocked as us media, mainstream media, i pulled out, i would be happy to run if it was possible, but i think i served a more valuable purpose, articulating what a candidate should say. then compromising what i'd say, robert kennedy, who, who compromised basically everything he stood for in order to remain on tv. okay. do you think this system, the american system as it stands today, even that allows for a truly authentic lean defendant candidate to even add to the race, let alone. when i'm in uh,
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to advocate his position to be honest about what he or she wants to achieve. and to actually, if, you know, a miracle happens to actually implement what he or she came to office for. well, i think i'm a case study in that respect. so it was possible to run for one month in the green party, but i was blocked out of all the media. so although i was in a position that normally would be reported in newspapers, i was and so it was impossible. basically, why was it impossible? i think basically the reason it's impossible and it's not just me, it's true in the congress. it would have been no different if i was running for the house of representatives. the reason it's impossible is because of secret governance. so the united states, we have elections, it's worse, but there's another layer, and it's dominated by 3 elements in my platform. one is classified directives, so the executive branch can give out classified direct is me, or you would say,
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we can't talk about this. we can't do this 2nd decision lock the congress passes laws which are secret, the guy be disclosed about going to jail, but which have the same binding power as federal law. and these are used to block, i mean, you can have a secret law that says manual, give you on tv. and the 3rd is non disclosure agreements. image in order to work the campaign or works for government award for corporation. they make you sign the agreement that says, even if the government or my company breaks the law, i cannot disclose it. and if i do disclose usually like to these other gentlemen so, so that's the secret governance. well professor base trish, you are painting a very oppressive, a picture for all of us, but i think there was one very uplifting message in our discussion and it is the democracy. true democracy of stars within yourself within your own family, within your own community. the way how you are treating life in general, this is
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a matter of personal conscience that no secret service can control. and i think this is a great freedom that all of us have. thank you very much for being with us today and thank you for watching hope to sir, again on walter part, the test the see the silver, the somebody. how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from
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a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments through a little bit of boston llc, or even maybe a little in your system with video games along the nominal facility or some of those other slash we i'm about to the easiest little so one of the easiest, somebody mobile bubble showed. well, nice to know kind of the piece that have gone on now. well, why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world to, to this country? and to a major arms hub will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally use that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell women's. yes, we're also known in the world as items dealers that we must not be ashamed of that the of
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the, the, i'll give a calls for the un security council to convince the bits of false israel to implement the rulings handed down by the international court of justice, also a head which, you know, i think the world has already realized the absurdity of israel and the condemnation of israel at the hey, court has justified that in iran, local, say, the i, c, j, 's, routing on israel is a cliff past. the justice profess still remains that israel main module for this destruction of jobs up until the next steps in and friends is getting dumped on by its own farm. is us despite parse dropping a plan, that's a good diesel subsidies. the front of the buildings on the streets out highways.
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