for over the weekend stay there we are, the out of the thing is a know, unfortunately i can't a judge. it's rationally or a non violent sleep because i've never for this community to really just to be in my district. i've shortly just started this where it is a team of but never as of really just minority and i must and this is that i'm a minor deal of the minority community as my father is or funded in my mother is question and i have been baptized so an on documents i'm a he can do, so i'm a minor deals minority, so i must be you know, distributed more, but i've never thought of distributed many thanks for your company here. and i see international coming up next talks on a boy go, has the latest episode of well to pods and not the thought was more of the latest news headlines in 30 minutes. the

welfare to was a part of the relationship between the economy and politics. has been the central issue in a government strategy that you are suppose to work in unison to produce a healthy and generative society. but a conflict between the fair or exploding one for the sake of the other, almost inevitably. so it was a nation interest rate. it happened to try in the, in the 19th century to the soviet union at the end of the 20th century. is it now the u. s. s. turn world to discuss that i'm now joined by emmanuel pace creatures,

the president of the asia institute and former green party candidates for the years presidency. professor pastry too is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you for having me. now if there's anything that the russian chinese american lives should agree upon, it is that the world is now finding himself at an inflection point. doing business as usual is no longer feasible for material reasons. there are no more resources for that. um here uh the question of how to move forward still remains open. what do you think will decided? i think the future will be determined by those who grasp what exactly has changed. and who can postulate a new paradigm that can be readily understood. the inflection point, as you imagine, is determined by how technology has advanced so quickly. it has been a beer so easily. false realities are promoted is true around the world and people

are low to sleep by games video. and i are v and a handful of finance. years around the globe are able to manipulate the entire system, creating their own pop it in a nice as a masses. but many people still believe they live in a nation state. and they work the assumptions that are no longer valid. because banks are not banks. newspapers are not used papers anymore, and understanding that gap between names and things is a critical issue as we are led to chase after the latest bad guy or blame a few bad apples in the us. the american present july then formulates this current inflection point moment as a choice between democracies and i talk procedure, which i think both in will sco and beijing is interpreted as

a choice between years dominance and political and economic affairs and more poll assenture the world with various forms of government, usually customized to local conditions and local societies. when are you looking to global trends? when you look at, um, so to 6, where do you think the world is moving beyond, let's say, the united states, russia in china? well, a choice between democracy and autocracy is a false one, because the ultimate issue is about who controls in nation, the means of production and distribution and who controls money in debt and increasingly in the united states, or for that matter, in china, russia, in other countries is controlled by multi national corporations, which are not an alternative government but are rather a form of government itself, which is unaccountable. and so we're really fighting against essentially strawberry

charlotte and jerry flavors. busy paul terry newsome and we need the grass assistance of yours understand how a daily lives is increasingly controlled by i g companies and a variety of other powers from the bottom up and the bricks offer as an alternative in a limited sense in it, they oppose a slaughter, gaza, they don't want that war mongering, nato, and that's good, but they're not excluded from control by global capital. well, the other question about the proposition, because, for example, in russia right now, we are not at all or will are excluded. uh, primarily from the implants of the global capital simply because of the american sanctions. i mean, the american capital has cut itself off from russia and just looks down from china as well because of the chinese government is controlling,

imposing controls on what's happening within the site is. and this is, i think, a coastal issue that underlies this somewhat artificial distinction between i talk racine, democracy, because i think the base of replies a totally different understanding of what makes i'm with governors, both russia, china, and many other societies, favor a society framework, a framework that is to deliver social what's rather down individual. busy list gains, i wonder, and i know you don't leave it in the united states or don't reside in the united states at the moment. but when do you think uh, hostages, good governance for an average american busy days. then fortunately in united states, increasingly, uh, government has been discredited. i do campaigns good, dating back around reagan, the say the enemy, government is the enemy and somehow the private sector,

which is in fact another form of the total attorney and governance run by multinational corporations and bags is an alternative. and that is reason extreme now which government a and politicians represent different flavors of multinational corporations. and as obamacare, the power representing i p facebook, google. busy as opposed to try who represented certain factions of real estate, speculators and military contractors and what and other than other groups. so it's, it is a form of democracy, but it has nothing to do with citizens anymore. well, i want to describe it as a form of oligarchy. i mean, i was, oh no, i agree, but i, i don't, i want to say personally, however, the china, russia and other countries are also wrestling with the same problem. said that it is a universal issue and it requires us to go back a basically

a to the arguments going on in the, at the beginning of the 1st world war, which was the contradiction between the nation state and global finance. but you know, i think one very important and sometimes criticized feature of both a russian and chinese approach to governance is a very meticulous attention to the most trivial aspects of life sewage to transportation and you know, education, public health care, all those boy boring things. uh that, for example, in the west may be seen as excessive control or, you know, anatomy said, but from the position of, you know, the russian society, this is the most, this is what makes up the substance of live. this is why what people care most about rather than some abstract concerns, even let's say the warren gather as horrible it is as may seem, it does not have a direct influence on people's lives. but if your sewage system doesn't function,

it does affect both of your ability to leave your lives. and actually many of your freedoms tend to be a human being functioning as it can be. so i wonder if you think the americans, uh, care about this aspect of, you know, the branding bought. there is just something that is very boring, very monday, not very ideological, but at the same time something that contributes to the ground to live. so my, my job is not to judge a china or russia, but that's all throughout the united states. and it's clear that one of the great challenges that was great, that was just done the united states by systematic effort, basically from the reagan administration on a, to destroy a bureaucracy of civil service and the role of the intellectual and governance. essentially, we've ended up with no gutter. so the, the, the rhetoric and say, someone like donald trump is

a government is evil and that we should get rid of this evil bureaucrats. but in fact, what has happened is there are any on the smart bureaucrats. there are no experts in government, the state department, i mean essentially into the trap administration under, on peo. but the whole role of the administration was to get rid of all experts i saw that it was, decisions can be made by can solve the firms representing multinational banks and corporations essentially, and billionaires and their strategic team. so this is how government is taking place. the united states and the solution is yes, exactly, start to get some form of government again. and would you have people long term who have expertise, who's feel of their responsibility is not this or the rich, but this are the people bullying a civil service and general service was based in the british civil service system.

and the american civil service system was exclusively based upon the chinese model from the team dynasty. and i started the chinese that is originally i was very inspired by chinese and korean and japanese versions of confusion, civil service. and uh, i want to ever be, oh, sorry for interrupting, but i think that it almost has a religious aspect to it. it's considered to be a duty and honor to serve your people to serve your country. do you think that aspect of the patriot is not something that you need to promote on the other side of the world and that aspect of very humble, pat, patriotism, serving your community, serving your nation? do you think it's still present within your society? we're also in the united states. there are obviously people who are struggling to find some way of expressing their concern about the country and the direction that

is going. unfortunately, we have this sort of hall of mirrors in which various i pay consultants have tried to distract us towards a false. we called cardboard messiahs, like donald trump and his crypto, fascist take approach. a based on the ethic naturalism and the site with a deep state by someone who's funded by the state or brock obama, who supposedly the 1st african american. but it was backed by facebook and google and. busy their id and entertainment. uh theres. uh and so we have moved away from that. but the ultimate issue, i think, is the role the intellectual. but it, whether it's in china, russia or the united states. but you have people with specialized education, which not everyone can have. is that something to be ashamed? uh, uh, buddy has to be dedicated to the interest of the common people. and this is not a new idea. it didn't start with the russian revolution. it was march,

it goes back in history of this idea that the benefits you receive of higher education shouldn't specialize. learning should be devoted to the people . what i always fascinated me in your country is how the americans are using persuasion tactics and how they're able to persuade themselves of the most unbelievable and factually unsustainable. narratives, for example, in gal and tearing is most considered to be one of the american values. and yet when you look at the policy objectively, it is pretty clear that the entire system, both economic and political system is geared towards and reaching the rage and then powerful, empowering the powerful. how do you explain these um gullibility here for the lack of a better won't because they americans do believe that they leaving meritocracy and

they leaving the free society in well, essentially we're looking at a collapse of the invisible aspect of the society. and that is the k or values in the collapse of civilization and institutions those invisible. but essentially what we're seeing is that politicians are no longer politicians. there is self serving, and intellectuals are increasingly for sale. and we saw that. now we see it now in terms of this. so the false identity politics in which the militarization of american society is hidden by praising the fact that women or african americans are being promoted to be generals in which the domination, without any credentials for that or experience necessary by that well. so it's, it's a false consciousness basically that's being promoted and i

think it's in indicative of a collapsing system that the united states obviously is barely united states is a global system. and it, i was just following the symbol or a trajectory to the soviet union because of the union's collapse. obviously had, are found in plaque far beyond the union, including north korea and all, lots of other countries who it bought into this economic system as a price change. i have to stop here right here. we need to take a short break, but we will be back in just a few moments state you the,

[000:00:00;00] the object to wells, of course, with emanuel pastries, president of the asia institute as a former green party candidate for the years presidency. it professor pastries, before the break,

we were talking about the differences between the american system or the western system of liberal democracy and various uh, so called autocratic systems. and let's speak concretely about the, the american electoral affairs is because the united states is entering a very interesting uh election here in which uh we have the same old choice that uh you had uh, back in 2020. uh only thats in this case the roles are reversed. i heard the joke are there other day that back in 2020 and by the ram in order to prevent them from seeing an office. now trump is doing the same. i want to ask you to somebody who has spent a lot of time in the united states. i started there, have friends there. i know that this is a country with very talented, very energetic intellectually, and lights and population. there are many bright people there. there are many people who are genuinely authentically concerned about the country,

about people around them. why do you think you are faced with the same old choice and you have to? yeah. well, this 2nd election between buying is in a vegetative state and try proves, sort of a pro wrestler turn politician. and now, i mean a good guy now handled by the there's is truly a zombie apocalypse. and i think the comparison which has been made with the least of the union with breast naz live to be suddenly 300 bucks. we died at 69 and, and the general scout who died in 73. all 3 were younger than buying in trump is quite a meaningful that we're really are the aging of this political. busy figures, it resembles a weight empire. this is goes back, it to the room is essentially old. people are, are, are much better is rulers, if decisions are being made in the shadows and behind the curtains. so it

represents a decay of institution really. and that really is extremely serious because so many countries base their systems on the assumptions the united states works by also think as an american or for that matter has the soonest end of the earth that we also have to be detached. we have to recognize that republics throughout history from you know, the greeks and romans usually last for 250 years. they don't last longer than that . are they, they tend to fall into a state of, of decay. and this is a natural process. so we should detach ourselves and recognize this as a predictable crisis, and we have to respond to it. and then other states makes it very difficult for the rest of the world to stay depressed because it gets uh, sort of projecting its own in a problems onto the rest of us. but for some reason, we all have to adopt this a really in democratic system that doesn't seem to be functioning within the united

states as your having described. and yet, it is being pushed onto the rest of the world as if to settle all of us with the american players ation and the american death and the american problems and the various issues within the american society. and i want to ask you, why do you seeing both the american leadership and the american people find the prudent to spend resources on financing the wars overseas on finding rivals or advertisers overseas. instead of, you know, taking this turn in ward and try to address whatever resources they have their own in their issues. well, i wasn't saying that we should be detached in the sense that it's ok. i was saying rather that in our attempt to assess the problem that we need to do is in a objective in scientific math, but it's extremely serious. so basically, we haven't ever seen a defined new ministration which is linked to another national ministration. and of

course, to the british administration, which have decided that they're willing to push for world war in order to stay in power in order because they know that it, their fault corruption is exposed. they'll all go to jail. i mean, it's extreme really dangerous. so i wasn't making why that the situation in terms of the psychology of americans. i think the, the best analogy for understanding psychology is one of i think the analogy to insects and incest is in the cases of, of people who are abused by their parents. they often refuse to recognize their victims of incest, sometimes for decades. and the reason is that their betrayal of, of, of being abused by someone that one trusted as a father and mother or brother sister is so disturbing that it's easier to pretend it didn't happen or to blame

a 3rd party. that it is to admit the truth. and the truth is that american citizens, whether it's starting mean i would start with the not with the $911.00 incident, but there are a whole series of other things including massive transfer. busy trillions of dollars do part of data easing so called cobit release, which somebody like 30 trillion dollars was transferred to the dns and private equity banks. this is so disturbing that it's easier psychologically to just pretend it didn't happen. then they confronted and that was really what my campaign was about. was to say, i have no money in black, the media, but i'm going to tell the truth. this is, you know, what really have, as well as somebody who studies depth psychology i find your matter for both accurate and very suddenly and, but i think it's also, you know, it rings true because if we look at the way the campaigns are conducted or have been conducted over the decades is essentially the priming of very intense emotions

. there is very little emotional or mental differentiation. i think one russian extra and describe it as a, as a politics of fear or fear mongering on the democratic side versus the politics of fury on the republican side. and when you come to this very strong in terms of motions, no wonder in that half of the population will be conflicted with the, with the results of, of those elections. and it would be almost impossible to govern or implemented any policy changes there after before we go into discussing your own uh, run uh, intended to run uh for the years presidency. can i ask you what can possibly put the american political discourse, american political lives into a more civil the more sort of humanist way human is. i mean, it actually caring about people who you are supposed to be uh, courting,

rather than your own vested interest. well, i think the change has to be from the bottom up. it has to be from citizens who engage or they themselves. they create a model for what a government could be based upon their interaction with the people around. and that this is, it's, uh, there's a, uh, a political scientist the, the, the scope of who wrote a book called diminished democracy in which he argues, i think, very convincingly that the only way to have a democracy is a government level. is this local systems of participation, but whether it's clubs or sports teams or whatever, i run me privately. and so the way to create a positive cycle towards democracy is to start having democracy, starting with your family, how you interact and your family, your neighbors, and your people around you, and that, that put pressure from the low on the system. now, um, as i mentioned to you,

you made an attempt to run for presidency yourself as far as i understand you are no longer running. but what were the changes, or what were some of the ideas that you hope to bring to the, to the political process? and why did you think that it was possible to do that? well, so i had originally run as an independent and do in 2020 and given a series of speeches. and there were a group within the green party, which is the 3rd largest in terms of number of people party in the united states who want to do a treated me the green party. they would distinguish that group as being not necessarily progressive or conservative. they are open to many different perspectives, but they were focused on a state crime issue. and so my position, which was the sort of 3, which is a 911 truth kobe truth and federal reserve to

a was last up reverie, well, was accurate, and they, they recruited me, they got me registered as a candidate. they promoted me. but basically, i think the word went down within the green party. i notice that the irish buy was not to be supported a, so i've been able to raise any funds. and so after a month of not having any money to do anything and being blocked as us media, mainstream media, i pulled out, i would be happy to run if it was possible. but i think i served a more valuable purpose articulating what a candidate should say, then compromising, like say, robert kennedy, who to compromise basically every, the steps for an order to remain on tv. the, do you think that the system, the american system as it stands today, even that allows for a truly authentic lean defendant candidate to even answer the race. let alone,

when i'm in uh to advocate his position to be honest about what he or she wants to achieve and to actually if you know, a miracle happens to actually implement what he or she came to office for. well i, i think i'm a case study in that respect. so it was possible to run for one month in the green party, but i was blocked out of all the media. so although i was in a position that normally would be reported in newspapers, i was and so it was impossible basically, why was it impossible? i think basically the reason it's impossible and it's not just me, it's true in the congress. it would have been no different if i was running for the house of representatives. the reason it's impossible is because of secret governance. so the united states, we have elections, it's worse. but there's another layer and it's dominated by 3 elements. it's in my

platform. one is classified directives, so the executive branch can give our classified direct is to me or view. we say we can't talk about this. we can't do this 2nd decision. lock the congress passes laws which are secret the guy be disclosed about going to jail, but which have the same binding power as federal law. and these are used to block, i mean, you can have a secret law that says manual give you mtv. and the 3rd is non disclosure agreements. image in order to work the campaign or work for government award for corporation. they make you sign the agreement that says, even if the government or my company breaks the law, i cannot disclose it. and if i do disclose easily like giving these other gentlemen so. so that's the secret governance. well, professor pastries, who are painting a very upfront, says a picture for all of us. but i think there was one very uplifting message in our discussion. and it is the democracy, true democracy of stars within yourself,

within your own family, within your own community. the way how you are treating life in general. this is a matter of personal conscience that no secret service can control. and i think this is great freedom that all of us have. thank you very much for being with us today. and thank you for watching culture, sir. again, on walter part,

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