or denied, so whatever the case is, we've seen a lot of liberals throw in absolute fit about this, saying that he should not be able to return to the united states just for setting foot and russia. others are saying that the republicans are taking marching orders from the kremlin was taken. listen, perhaps we need a total incomplete shut down of tucker carlson. re entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. tucker carlson has spent 3 days in moscow. 8 g o p senators ben, july 4th in moscow. mike johnson is killing ukraine aid. republicans do not serve america. they serve putin, he is a traitor. i was just astonished and how could clicking the political immediate landscape tons on talk a cause and he used to be a darling of america, fox news. i think he was most nbc as well. we used to both work at cnn. i mean my goodness me. but i guess at the end of the day don't, it's not the 1st time we think controversy regarding a potential tucker cos, and individual. that's right. of several months ago, tucker carlson said publicly that he was trying to secure an interview with the

russian president. vladimir put in but he also said that the us government stepped in actively step in to stop that from happening. so let's take a listen to what you said at the time i tried to interview the list. government stop. think about that for a minute. nobody defended me, there's not, i don't think there was anybody else can use me to use the 22nd. you know, i mean, i like this guy, but she is right to interview anybody want to we have a right to you. we, you know what, you know, i think this voice cause why no hold on. no, no one asked me. i'm 54 years old. i pay my taxes and follow the wall. i'm an american citizen. how much more royal americans and she'll buy more as soon as he brought into this country suburban canada, they're telling me what to do to be a loyal americans, like i'm just not even interested at this point. it really makes you wonder why. just a simple interview with vladimir putin as creating so much hysteria in the mainstream media and, and more importantly, so much fear in washington,

perhaps after so many years of trying to paint this evil caricature of an evil dictator. allowing the russian present to actually show a human face to the american public is much more dangerous for the status quo than anyone in washington would want to see. i want you to tell me is where you can get find the details of all the stories or the following how they arrived back again on top of the all see the hello and welcome to prospect bullhorn design. peter lavelle here we discussed some real news, us escalates to de escalate, goes to war to avoid war. in the meantime, european leaders bluster about the need to stop bogie while protest mount. and i'm joined by my usual guest, george samuel in budapest. he is

a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and in merrill cash, we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist, a gentleman, cross talk rules, and effect that music in germany. time you want that. i always appreciated credit start out with george in budapest as we usually do. george you a very um, interesting week rhetoric versus actions here. we were constantly given the message that the binding ministration, most of the de escalate tensions in the middle east or west asia as more and more people call it. but actions are very different. did i see just enormous escalation? but the administration says it's just the opposite that can you square the circle and if you can, you don't, you deserve a nobel prize. go ahead, george. well, i think i'm not going to get that nobel prize anytime. said i, yes, i think the united states always makes the same thing. we are desperate to avoid a war. we're absolutely desperate to avoid any kind of escalation. that is why

we're launching this size. that's why we're launching bomb is in order to avoid a war and everything that he does, whether it's a heat or it here, and then the lease, or whether it's a in ukraine is did to water probably case to live it. that's what it does. like to make claim that it's the escalate. he may claim that it's entirely defensive, but whatever it's doing it is in order to provo, i mean for you. if you take the, uh, just a, you know, look at it from the other person. look at it, let's look at it from the perspective of iran. you know, they see a hostile state a stain that is, we have also to do the around for more than 40 years in a openly advocates the whole withdraw about the government was very wrong in to see was a policy of containment all the around. it sets of basis all around there. um, in order to achieve all of those things, any claims that he's being defensive about anything that all of the wrong does in response, of course, every country will respond to such purposes. oh,

you're wrong is the address. so here we have to do something about this. so this is how the united states bags, and then it presents itself to the world as well. we're, we're, we're innocent with what we're doing, nothing. i mean it's, it's fairly aggressive. it's, it's the same password all the time. and that's the law of unintended consequences because there is no real strategic goal. always. i can figure that out. we know mark mean we have a gen kirby the spokesperson for the national security council. he vehemently, vehemently, and he's correcting people all the time. but these, you know, the, the escalation going on in the middle east has nothing to do with god. i mean, they're, they're decoupled. they have nothing to do with each other. when the entire region is halloween, at the top of it's a long saying, it is all about this. how much longer can, can the administration get away with this? is i suppose, as long as there's a pliant media, but i mean, the reality on the ground is radically different than it's being described in

washington. where you said the media, me just the key here. you know, i mean, the american journalist, british journalist doing well, they can to fix a new use. i mean, even when you look at the basis of these, these recent attack spy blight. and let's go back a few days or a week or so. it was reported all over the press that these, these american soldiers were killed in jordan. nice, that's not true. they want to go to, you know, and uh, it were actually killed on the other side of the border in syria where the americans and the british have a so called secret base at of tubs. and the problem with this is how does bite and sell out to the american public? how do we obviously say, well we, we have a legal occupation in syria and we're trying the local tribes to, to carry on the fight against a sub a subs units. and we're also reducing a number of al qaeda people who i'm quite happy to take out cash. how do you still

at the american public a and even on the american, even though the international know, you don't have the right to defend yourself. if you're occupying someone else's country, so there's, so there's one code in jewel and that was a lie. and look how these things escalate. the kind of thing, how these things get taken out of control. it's really interesting spending will this time the middle east, how i have a perspective on how arabs think, how i run this thing and i can tell you for sure they will not interpret these attacks, but blinds and as a position of strength on his part, i see it quite the opposite, then why is the position of weakness? and i'll tell you why. because it's a bit like um the 911 attacks being inspired by enlarge and because he saw for himself in the summer of 1992, an american soldier being tractor streets of smaller of, of mogadishu. and being on the cover of newsweek and send some putting out 10, some putting out his troops, not in somalia, but also not intervening. and dwanda been not and looked at that. and he realized that's how weak that's a valuable america is a winful in the decade,

late at the bottom, the embassies in the ruby and doris alone, you remember is the same. so the story here, the radians and the arabs will be looking at this and say you do all this for $310.00 americans. some of using, you know, use that vulnerable. and so this, this is how they will be seen and the close of bind to and who keeps site here. we won't piece it. we're bombing for piece it's, there is a limit to how, how far this fos can go anywhere with literally a cigarette paper away from bite and spring a, c, and d stick uh, a logo on the side of oh, so when i bought a home, you know, but what he's doing is i took her to george now is that when they were, or about 3000 us military personnel scattered throughout the region, at least that's official. but they're, they're being put into a sacrificial lamb position position. i mean, maybe us cannot defend them, they can not defend them at all, particularly if there's a united, the axes,

the axis of resistance with that they working in concert. those 3000 troops are sitting ducks george. well, they also the dogs, but of course, um then, how does the united states respond? should they be attack? well the united states, them continues attacking is just a never ending cycle. and again, they, the goal s suppose is some sort of dominance that the united states wishes to impose on them at lee is which is completely unrealistic. but when you look, let's impact, goodness, consider serious. what exactly is the united states doing in syria? i mean, you get it in a box on this policy of over throwing by cheryl a side by um, uh, president obama and it failed. um, why did one aside out, well, let me get the lady like the fact that i saw both had good relations with russia that you liked the fact best that had good relations with iran. so they cited,

we got to get rid of it. so that failed. what's the policy now? well, the policy and i was simply to polish the syrian people. so no having going along with the american project and therefore to deny them the oil to deny as i was there um agriculture. and just to continue as before, and then of course, when inevitably is america for so we don't know how many there are, you know, set to be about $900.00, probably much more than that. but nonetheless, they, they will be a come under attack. and then of course, i'm going to come under it today. you know, income because the night says, well we, we don't want to escalate, but we have to, uh, even bump some more a so we did, it continues. but of course, all the peoples in the region are particularly iraq. iraq sees the united states as a grass or it just says, let's say this is a, is the united states is determined to make life as hard as possible for us to remove. i got to go back to the days of the plot is uh, in the night,

the sixties and seventies. and therefore we're, you know, we are entitled to do everything we can to resist and therefore that, that's the reason why they have these. um, uh, let me pull the proxy forces around the middle east because that the, that the resist over the resist a power that is, has arrested in trying to was the wrong. and we should point out here is that, you know, unlike with western media, saying that these are not all tightly coordinated and controlled by here around these. like they may take a note of what it said into them, but they weren't there. there is essentially independent actors here. you know, martin, you know, we can add insult to injury. it'd be lighted. states is still helping the people of a rack even couldn't. they've been asked to leave. the have us troops out vacate the country and then the us turned around and blackmailed and say, well, you know, if you want us to leave, will take your, your for in reserves like this is turning into a habit. i think you gentlemen have noticed here, essentially a black mailing their way to stay inside the country, which of course, you know,

after everything's been signed and been done for a rack by the united states and its allies, that can only get worse. the situation can only get more inflamed martin. yeah. that relationship of, of a black man. the i'm and i'm an victim in a still come syndrome scenario in iraq. it's only gonna get worse because what we've noticed. another thing this has been picked up a tool by the west is the more the america hits, those probably rang emissions interact, the more strengths that gives to ices. and the regular nicest is actually coming back in to rugs. and then just in the last few days it's, we're engines to see the regular iraqi army divisions have been attacked by cis. so that's also a point of leverage which the, the american so using, you know, you're the right to the so you want us to leave. but you know, if leave and you're going to have a big problem with the ice just to get on your. yeah. but we have to point us looking forward before 2003 before 2003,

there was no isis inner rock and they only came as result to be illegal, occupation invasion occupied rapidly running out of pro time for this block. george, is it fair to say that the united states has this fighting israel's enemies in the region? right? it is just in the one part of a, a military operation to go after israel's enemies. this is what the task that the by ministration is accepted. george, i think is fair because, um, there is no in fairfield of the, uh, the rationale for that. because basically what, what is the problem that the united states have with iran? well, iran is a little bit. israel plated the smoke like area around in israel are at the local go ahead and the united states, you know, to every single politician in dc is constantly railing a ranting and raving about the wrong it was that what, what is it that you go to is there i bought it, what's, what's your problem with their um,

you'll know and they are the wrong well because it doesn't like israel and that's good. that's the positive results then it is, well, don't charge you. i mean, it's really the end of it. exactly. i'm and we'll finish off this bart with the with martin here and we, i what's the number here? uh, 17600000000. that's what the us house speaker, mike johnson was a standalone, a standalone vote for israel. okay. no, no other conditions why i r s not, not border security, just stand alone in the world sees is in the air. a world sees this is that skewing the genocide going on and god's at last for 30 seconds. before we go to the break, you'll see the point now i want to make an george sort of touched on the scene a is that to israel is really the central, the problem here as well as allies of the central problem. and when are you? george mentioned, uh, what is what american troops doing, and so it's often forgotten that not only are they running the comes, their legal comes to train the local tribes to fight a sudden such a lines,

militias, and even the right. and i'll make cuz we should never forget geranium, it has a lot of installations, not answer. but the 2nd thing, which is more important is the stealing oil and missile america does. if it doesn't get cheaper around the world, it just deal with a mix it. so you have this buffer, if you, well, what it does to is it deprives well from, from, we have this plenty of oil in the world that it deprives the syrian government about ways that people are going is going to, is how's going across the board and so right gentlemen, have to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our to the show. seems wrong. just don't to shape out the application. and engagement equals the trail.

when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground the the, the, the welcome back to the prospect bullhorn design, peter little bill. to remind you were discussing some real news. all right, george, let me throw it to you. um, changing gears a little bit during hungry, hungry was uh, the, the subject of, uh, you black mail over the last uh, few new cycles here. um victor owed about and finally agreed to a compromise. and probably the best deal he could get. uh, 50000000000 euros will be um, allocated to ukraine. uh,

some of it direct assistance. other loan guarantees which i don't think will ever be paid back. and but meanwhile, meanwhile, in the same building in brussels, where this great historic boat of unity for ukraine, a lot of cow dung, was a thrown at the doors and windows of that building here by farmers and farmers representing farmers all across europe. so here we have a very distress, distressed group of people, the, the, the, the, of the foundation of so many of these countries identity, their agriculture, their farmers, their traditions. and he, you decided, know, ukraine is more important. george, it is quite remarkable. and uh, an order by himself said after this meeting is that everyone in brussels is talking of, well that's, that's the, it lists them mentality. and we'll see this throughout europe. so in any in,

in the u. k, where we have the, the top uh on the person. uh so patrick sondra is saying we need to bring back military conscription. uh because we need to. uh, it's not ready or. and then uh, barge, i'm sure a lot of, you know, you know, um, uh, x 10 or whatever they're called or more than happy they know, jump into a military uniform. i did. it just seemed so not unless i get immigrants to do it. sorry for the, in a wreck. i know the other and then you have a bar, as johnson said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need conscription, you know, corporal johnson reporting for duty that you have um, a little macro. also same, you know, we, whatever we do, we kind of a lot of booting. so when you have the general bar is not general, you know, defense minister bars, this story is in germany was as well are, is uh, you know, you know, almost sometime within the next 5 years. now this is, this is,

that's also where you're at. but somehow, well, with russia is coming within the next few years, where they get this fantasy from, you know, we, we, we simply don't know. i think we do know it all comes from washington. they're just repeating what washington has to, you know, what, you're both your opinions of georgia is kind of everything, but, you know, we have martin here, he's from the u. k. a, i'm hungry, a european. okay. okay. all right, good. well, i don't want to get into identity politics on cross it out to us thing we need to do so, but you know, this does come from washington. i don't think anyone really has an appetite for war, particularly just after what's been going on and ukraine. but it, for me, and the most important thing is it shows its priorities and it's ideologically driven. i mean, you know, the most basic, one of the most basic things you need is food. okay. we have farmers, european farmers for the most part, are very, very efficient. they're very good at what they do and it every single turn we have

a ruling class in the u. it just wants the stuff, these people out there, backward, their retrograde, they're conservative, they're religious, and their cows are farting all the time. okay. i mean, good, ready? so you know, this is an extraordinary moment and there's just so much this. um, i think festival is a couple of points. so i wanted to make about some is we should never forget the fund moves across europe. take move in 100 off of the into the budget every single year, and then, and they rely on that bunch of they rely on a subsidy and they'll, they comp make ends meet. they come make a decent profit and they're starting to conduct and starting to worry concurrent to the politicians, both on a member state level and on e u level. they're also starting to panic because they've borrowed and borrowed and they're realizing that all this is catching up with them. and they haven't got the means to put themselves on the road. very few just have any this way, aust. where did you get this 50000000000 dollar 50 been years from wasn't kicking around, popping up. those live on the,

on the land store and europe and commission. it wasn't in a volt in the or spin central bank in frankfurt. they bought it from the markets and they keep on board. and i think this tool and it is just talk, comes from a couple of things. first of all, the media list and loves and watching what towns in the next 6 months. ukraine's going to have more defeats. now, how do we manipulate that? how do we capitalize on that? how do we show that was, let's move images and ukraine to russian forces? well, we actually use that same footage to sex up the story and scare people into believing this narrative of the russians are coming. now is nonsense. we know it's nonsense, but what's it all about? it's really all about money page. it's really all about scaring people into, designed to do. we have a real problem coming on a, on a, on an international level. a boat is being threatened. and this is how we can actually distract people away from the financial crisis. is that we can actually install this idea that we need bigger armies. we need prescription of the u. k.

it's hilarious. we're going back to 19 fifties. an old that is linked to actually increasing our defense budgets and this is what is all about. so what about increase defense spending? i mean some of the very happy with this to see a lot of european countries looking at this. but that's what's coming on the horizon on a considerable increase. i'm talking about 5 or 10 percent. i'm talking about double. this is what europe is really preparing for. in my view, it's a, it's a, it's a scale talk to you because they are tactic. but george, you know, beat me. the 2 pillars of the promise of the e. u was a security and prosperity. well, they haven't been delivering on either for a very long time. and i, you know, and martin just said, i can't let it go. you know, we have to defend our borders, but not against the legal immigration. it's a glass front of the it is so absurd. you know, the longer you talk about it, the more the absurdity of it all becomes evident. i'm sorry to jump in george. yeah, that is. that's exactly right. i mean, they don't do anything. it's all to defend the boat as and that's precisely what

the europeans i'm most concerned about in the country opposite country. they are extraordinarily concerned about this uncontrolled flow of mind. rose and this is something that the e u leadership, kids know nothing about you know, so when, when you listen to who still up on the line and michelle and mack wrong shoals and the rest, what did they talk about? what could i do crate? it will, it will, shouldn't you've been addressing the public use of your own people, the, the that's, it's all about your brain that, that's the only thing you know, who's the bumper line, you know, deliver so state of the union, the gold, a european follow them again an ac with the american style and associated with the web page annually voted and who voted for her. i'm sorry to go back to who, who wrote a mistake here and then when, when you, when you mention about the funds, is that as absolutely right. i mean, here, here are these people who have very, very small margins. they can barely survive and you have a policy is

a levy you have been driven by making the door making their lives as hard as possible, whether it's the up. so the environmental regulations, you know, oh, you must think he was pesticides, you must set aside 20 percent of your land for bio that i said the to so you know, you go to your own me and make sure that your, your cause and uh, faulting. uh, you know, got cut back on your meat production. it's, it is, it is a very full stop. all the thoughts from is, and the problem is know this and video and that's why they make their feelings. well, i mean very significant lead or by off to his, you know, talking to in brussels, went outside and talk to the farm. is this idea of these the, these are, might be believe these are people who actually have some civil notions about what should happen in europe, but not the european leadership. and it's a, it's, but i didn't go through absolute disaster no more. and prior to that, the con 5 and in brussels, um uh, in georgia,

i talked about an hour bar podcast. bentley. this leaked article from the f t and who knows where it comes from, but you know that the, the, the, that hungry would face the sanctions, essentially blackmail possibly have its voting rights denied to it. so here's is, you know, the most of them, apparently the most advanced, the democratic process that known to mankind, and they're trying to subvert democracy. while the while there's a funding, a lost foreign war going into debt and destroying their farmers. yeah, i, i guess, belief, i mean, when i read it, so the system i, i could, couldn't quite believe what i was reading, you know, this, the idea that the issue is, well, 1st of all, a democratic body it is and the tool is if anything is empty democratic it was brought to balance. it seems like it's kind of like the mafia. you know, you, you know mister ebony got kind of a nice country here. it'd be a pity something would happen to it. yeah. yeah. i almost as though when they are offering a protection racket with all the funds they pump into it and that right,

it could be turned off at any moment, you know. but going back to what happens, you know, 50000000000 years. think about it. that's not a lot of money. i mean, it's over 4 years and it's over 4 years. yeah, the 12 and i've been in a year and by my estimations and by my own research and investigations i've done at least half of these cash or equipment military equipment is being diverted if it is military kids. if i do this and it's actually for saturdays, and i might, it's mainly for government ministry, salary is i don't know to anybody. does anybody in brussels actually think that the, the launch of that money is going to get to government salaries. you know, we know it isn't when there and the people who go to that no is. and so what is the real story here? is it that we really believe ukraine can win the war? and it's only just a question of time. i think we've moved on from that and then or 2 of i think that the narrative now in brussels is we need to keep this dead body alive. we need to keep it resolved. the rest of the day to them plugged in with all these choose, we have to keep it in just but it's just that it's not going to do that. it's not

going to do that. and i'm sorry, but george is a money laundering operation. this is, you know, and you, and i discussed this and argued about this for ever since the start of this, the special military operation. but i think we both are, all 3 of us are in agreements. this may be the use last chance that will give them a longer a chunk of change. okay? and you know, it pays off the leads in, in ukraine and then meet with us. there's some arms that are purchased from europe, primarily america. and you know, all the other serve it. yeah, n g o stuff. i mean, this is just an on the bus, you know, um thing and maybe it will be the last one. we don't know, but george is of the opinion and that he can ben my your a lot. they, they're never going to give up on this project. go ahead, george. no, i really don't. i think that they all did tell them and to keep this uh well going um for as long as i can. but you know, to weaken russia to inflict some kind of a strategic defeat on russia and to keep in was in united states. and so we have,

you ever go out to your, up, you have this leadership that has, know all the pieces because if any legitimacy all the them continuing this a scam on the rain above russia, we, we, we have to do it because with the fulton is a threat to us, so where legally used to be, oh, we gotta do all this way. ukraine now is we have to do it because we on that's on the chopping block, you know, where, you know, it's got a big appetite and he's going to have it all up. okay. but we, i think we can end on this notes here is that i, i think we, we are all in agreement and our viewers that the european leadership should be more fearful of pitch forks than of russian tanks. at least at this point that are and i want to thank my guess in merrill cash and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are the see you next time. remember, prospect rules the

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