i'm just a couple of weeks ago. so, i mean there's a, it's a pretty, pretty similar scenario for me. the gold metal that value of a one in the winter games and vague jane. well, now those are the us team. russia says it will appeal to decision. do you think there's any chance that the appeal will be successful? probably no, i mean, a lot of these panelists and not impartial is the right steps to have the problem. and, you know, even so you can not consciously aware of it, you'll get a futile, impartial and remind you to the read somebody or not. and that's, that's for me that there was most worrying, talk these, these government buildings mean to say, absolutely impartial. i'm gonna state but i need to update the rules that it needs to be innocent until proven guilty like everything else and in any legal process i purchase things to pay a particular spell for a whole bunch more money. all right, well like with our tribal, independent journalist and commentator, thank you. all right, up next the fascinating documentary,

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way that works, the wiki links, using non state hostile intelligence service. i think the man, as i talked her, a hard tech turner's to trainer a trainer. he has to answer for what he has done. assange trace it up to a 175 years in prison for publishing classified documents, exposing us for crime center rock and us grandstand. she has been detained since the 7th of december, 2010 in one form or another. and we are now here off to the office press. the

judy in full song was born in 1971 in town, the script australia, the in 2006. he found it was a non profit, major organization with the i'm to provide an in of a to secure anonymous way of facilities to leak information. the in april 2010, the organization came to international attention. when they released a video showing a crime by the us as a treat in a row, the in may 2010 private manning was arrested in charge of leaking classified

documents to wiki leeks. including the video previously mentioned, the us diplomatic cables and reports that came to be known as the ask in war diary and the rack more logs in july of 2010, they released an extraordinary compendium over 91000 internal u. s. military logs of the war in afghanistan, which revealed 195 previously and reported civilian depths. in august, 2010 global mainstream media published stories accusing julian, the son of raping to woodman in suite. in october, 2010 liquid leaks released the largest classified electricity industry. the rock and roll knocks. these results revealed the dean panels previously and reported to civilian tests in november, 2010. they published cable games,

the largest set of confidential documents ever released to the public, giving us an unprecedented insight into the us government's foreign activities. just 9 days later, assange was arrested as a london police station on a european arrest for renting relation to swedish vacation. meanwhile, us officials confirmed to the straining and embassy in washington. the justice department was conducting an active vigorous inquiry into whether assigned to be charge under the us little, most likely, the espionage act. 2 weeks, a ton. these training and embassy in london advise these training government that media reports of a secret grand jury in the us against which leads were likely true. on the 16th of december, the sage was released on bail. his passport was confiscated. he was under house arrest for the next 2 years, the enough and the 2011,

the u. k. supreme court ruling. this should be extra time to, to switch to face questionnaire the application in june 2012, to avoid being taken into custody by sweet, and then extradited to the west. as ange took asylum in ecuador and embassy in london, the in the 2nd half of 2016, the company contracted to provide security services at the embassy by the government of ecuador, began assisting the c. i a and spying on a st agent as visitors in the embassy. they uploaded the security camera footage to an f t p server and gave the c i a access to it. in march, 2017, with the leaks published fault 7, detailing the activities and capabilities of a c i a to perform electronic surveillance and cyber warfare through smartphones and other devices. it was the largest leak in the history of the c. i a in april 2017. the us said that it was an hour priority to arrest the sage. in august

2017. trump offer to sage a part if you would disclose who was responsible for leading democratic party e mails to wiki links. before the 2016 us presidential elections assigned refused to give up a source. in december, 2017. the us government gave the u. k. government, a sealed warrant for a st, just arrest in february, 2019 to ecuador, and government receive loans of $10200000000.00 from various multilateral institutions of which the us, the majority cheryl or the loans were provided with the agreement, the same which could be removed from the embassy, the in april, 2019 u. k. police entered the embassy of ecuador and forcibly carried julianna's sage out of the building and took him away in advance. on the same day, the us indictment against him was on sale. charging him with one couch of computer

intrusion, he was sentenced to 50 weeks and bill mars prison. in the same month, sweden reopened the sexual assault investigation and the us filed 70 new charges against the in february 2020. the extradition here and the criminal court. the in june 2022, the us department of justice issued update to to 18 count indictment. every phase trial in the us government would face a sentence of a $175.00 pieces in prison. in november 2020 sweden dropped the rape case. after reviewing the evidence, the on the 4th of january 2021 judge, correct sir rule the sage could not be extradited due to his mental health and risk of suicide. you know, to the 2020 in a 2 day appeal, but the u. s. u. k. churches save the us and overcome the

decision not to extradite consumers today. pools 2022, westminster magistrates quote, formerly issued extra dykes and some 8 weeks later you. okay. secretary pretty battelle signed off on the, in june of 2023 london side court, just as jonathan swift rejected 2 separate applications made by a stranger's lawyers to appeal his extradition. striking down all submitted grounds at the time. it says, holdings julian sons is still being detained in definitely solitary confinement in that marsh purse while is legal to continue to appeal on his be off of the most people have heard of him

in relation to the swedish trump. right bellenger's patients. and it's really important to, to debunk them to explain the role of the media in mischaracterizing the case and creating a sphere campaign. the, the swedish case, she's the one of the most anomalous crime investigation i have ever seen as a do it. and then these 2 women went to the police for having juliana sans testing for sexually transmitted illness. the evidence was really manufactured and it turned out to be complete distortion of the actual situation where 2 women wanted him to get an h. i d test not to have him prosecuted in any

way and they were distraught that he was being persecuted. the public understanding of these days was started by the people go there to understand what was really going on the you and the special report that on thought took need semester. the leads there's big sweeties. so she was able to read the bargaining, adding this to get some documentation and to expose at the least for the to see a violation, some due process including active my new police. and i'm very dense. the case was open in 2000 and then the closing 2010 of the site. these are the opening 201010 steps the see shelly open for 6 yards when he was finally question in november 2016 and the may 2017. the prosecute. the young me close the investigation and dismissed the case and then

it went do nothing, was interested in april 2019. a new a swedish prosecutor reopen the case, but of course, and it was already, there was no case at all. so she closed the investigation once in full and that november 2019. and the when notice charges, you know, this case was disappearing. many of the investigation dental was never as charged for a. and i can assure you that if they have an anti dense, they could have me definitely charge him and they need it to the board came on try . yeah. and they did that these days has been use to describe this is sort of condition is supposed to be the default because the public opinion offense and on that rape case, the never was, it was just part of this manipulated firestorm that was created in an effort to

bring this knowledge down the lines, which he weeks published because of course targeted by the c i a, in the intelligence community. and part of that smear campaign was to pay which he leeks as a sorry, again, or a friend for austin power. i rush to moore and report which investigated the trump russia saga, and found no collaboration between the trump campaign and, and russia exonerated with the leak. so there was 0 evidence that russia provided any weeks or information to wait 2 weeks. we should also be clear that wiki weeks published over $700000.00 files on russia itself. when in deer,

what 2 weeks ago and the from the, one of the arguments we hear about why doing a song should be targeted from those who believe you should is that he somehow put people at risk. but what we've seen in more than 10 years now is a complete failure by the us government to present any evidence of any concrete harm cause anybody at chelsea mannings trial at ford meeting, which i attended was a charge was made that lives were put at risk in that trial, uh, the prostitute had to admit that that was not true. the russian states never as tight as on one of the most sense community. best english. i'll send some of the same assistance to father speedy. what else calls cause about this? even though we will ben in the european union,

the kremlin machine, the state on the russians cruising and supports the r t spoke neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say to steve and quickly check the just enough to keep the lights on main campus seems to be the new approach adopted by the youth and possibly even the united states. one thing is clear ukraine is losing and will never win. the only emission left is to deny russia victory a test. so i usually do at least academies needed

to copy math from the, from the, the projections that would surround a journalist. i needed something to distinguish and i couldn't really get one except before the how they felt. i felt opponents when he didn't reject, according to being a more country position court in the final weeks, he had this material in his position in the final weeks regarding the new york times. and the spiegel became involved in processing and sifting through this material and had a great on the joint launch, a guy that rejected us the try to put a hold to it for don't any one of been anyone that said delay was drawing a thought. and i was with him absolutely. with him and outside the scene, any course sidney and american court. it was julian who tried to stop the release until that full reduction had been done from the 1st day to the

early hours of monday morning to redact. the was with him and we were sharing the problem. he rejected it 10000 nice by himself, quite literally that the state of the, on the, on the, to the my, not the weeks of practice, the listing, you know, less or to i am is as of the next. so he was not, i am used to edit that was the, the fundamental work that the made the, that trench of documents 5, there was 96 media passes, carefully redacting the cables and to david lee tang lou cutting publish the password in the book. he had a great sense of responsibility for the material for the souls who provided the material. and for the material itself, he went to great pains,

had contacted hillary clinton to ask for help in redacting names. pay off of that to the us government and they declined the u. s. military accounts of local informed was that they had given him some data that will work with him a little bit into your law. why could not wondering whether you have found all of those, whether you know, or they have, if they have a particular code, i don't think it will come within that. within the 35 with big size i is, is it is it can open too hot. now that said, it is possible, i mean, maybe maybe it's 5 or 4 heroes fire and for their choice. and we are forced to make hard choices and those hard choices. do we do best effort to minimize calm, which we have done with the understanding that this is an ex,

extraordinary body of material capable of producing extraordinary reforms? so what i want to say to people looking at is how to use print a. so just a traitor is a rapist, he's a nurse whistles, she's a hacker. i don't blame you because you have been to see. and if you think you've not been deceived, that's normal because otherwise you wouldn't be such the 40 for everything we've talked about. somebody was we have the courage to cease right. the fresh prospectus would we be willing to go on a new journey of understanding? this is a story of description is great for me to

bring to the store in the redmond diary likes the theater, which is where we had those who think places and that's at the university of milton with julian is a student who was sitting here. there's a couple of us, i mean, kind of went to the elections together. there wasn't many actually students that had the crossover between physics science law. it's on it's in politics and philosophy. so i was really lovely to engage with someone who was thinking about both of those things and how to marry up those kind of ideas of logic and political thoughts. that ability to one thing clearly critically from original perspectives

and to, to have no fear and communicating them to think outside the box to think from a different angle. here is clear that it was incredibly at the depth of that t, as in computers, as mazda, head of i think, where most of us, where with what we were learning and science. and actually, i think i had it on a lot of the computer science courses. at the time, as those at solar eclipse and the off is to go through and south is drive like a narrow window through the world. man himself, julian, and on the night of alice a cramped into a car. and we just went on the right. you joined, shed all bunch of is songs that did collected for modeling it with a bunch of amazing interesting design songs like homely or uh and then like once you buy it then and only take like the mix of sign. typically it's music people who communicate in science concepts, really advanced physics concept gas as low as, as low as like an electron magnetism. and i have the theme and radium and built in

wonderful incredibly 90. but um, but lovely to be experienced to, to be introduced to a metric often we have conversations where we don't want to make anyone uncomfortable or embarrass anyone or call out something which will really identify audio cause some friction. but actually, julia was really feeling us with it, and he had no compunction. i got, you know, julian, because i was part of an early internet community here in melbourne. he was quirky, a observer of people clearly very smart. he wasn't that interested in what people thought of him. part of that i think is a little bit of an autism spectrum. and that he didn't notice it. one of the things of he became most interested in trying to address was the issue of corruption.

you've seen a lot of corruption growing up in australia. he had lived in a small town in queensland during the jo. be a few peterson era. a time when people were passing round paper bags of cash to police ministers. he is at heart, deeply and intellectual deeply sink, or he was very interested in corps route problems or things where does the system fall down at the foundation? corruption being something that if it was fixed would have this kind of enormous flow on effect. it would reduce equity in society, poor people would be less poor. also there'd be just less of a sense of injustice across society. is such a super intellect, the confines for the information on you know, i've never seen anybody so focused appeared just to help for the day. just kind of racing thing. i'd like to tell a all day old and all not researching things. the way he came in to form when he

leaves was a kind of a iterative process over time. like wind making, you know, they had a lot of ingredients that'd be fine tuned. he had white boards that he'd rescued from tips, so his house had white boards in every roof. some people of paintings or posters, football, and most of white boards were filled with things. sometimes they were equations. sometimes the equations were filled with just words and reflecting a mathematical language of a social phenomena. and what he could see was that information was becoming transferable, coffee table at little to no cost in large quantities. and so that churning desire for this deeper social change, combined with these other overlays, enabled by technology, i think just mentioned everything came together at the right moment for him. my 1st

contact with his wife on june sent me an email describing something senses project he had in mind to working. so the idea was to put out secrets classified secrets of coverage. and that seemed to me extremely unlikely that you could really circumvent the national security agency. what julian's idea was before he likes was that maybe we don't need to go through our mainstream journalistic channels. there's an ability that encryption can give you if it's done in the right way to allow protection of that information to say on there really valuable. so those are really valuable piece of information. so really courageous, powerful concept that the website could facilitate anonymity of sources that have information that could expire on doing by

governments, corporations, whoever it might be. walter with key makes dead, was not to create the citizens of the world like general, which is how the politicians treat them. they commit the crimes they do misdeeds, but never in front of the general and don't let the trim one find out. what we're really doing doing is to talk about the light over. he likes money, is that setting it up and it's like an hour glass when it's too well. just one on the top and one on the bottom. the 1st well dripping down with leaking into the 2nd world. and he said it was, this is, this is a little bit of, of what the world we could make, a well informed by the lakes of the previous world of corruption. and if those lakes informed all of that, we'd like to make it will make it at a better place. and in some sense, you know, the l boss is, there's so many of the ability to it that people and they sustain corruption and

wrong doing for so long before they, they feel a need to expose that. com. thank you very much. believed in the media is completely manipulated and controlled, and more so now than ever before. and so into this game with the, the, the single greatest about expanding verizon is you, they're telling your friend once of 20, so 40 bu, and as for your phone pot for the largest detective machine, well the, the,

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you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the waiting thing. the suite and it shuts down its own investigation into the north stream of glass to appeal to prize. winner sy hersh elijah's. the swedish and danish hands were dirty it and what he concluded was us lead sabotage. the us senate fails to adopt a border security bill worth $118000000000.00 tripping ukraine and israel of lump sums of military age. and the canadian prime minister just intruder, reportedly personally invited ukrainian boston s. as the veteran hung up for an official reception in september last year, russian embassy and canada has condemned the move. the.