thing they say is a lie like they say, russia, is it doing well when roger is doing better than it was 2 years ago, when you're gross domestic product, your oil sales, and what you're doing. so they keep, they keep lying to people. the old media is already dead, but yes, things like this tucker interview, signified to us the power of hollywood, the power of the annual american establishment. the power of the global is, is gone. it's, it's, it's, it's over in the white house also going back to the backlash against the interview, the white house that it's best to try to downplay the impact of the interview. why do think the biden administration is so worried about this interview and how people might view it? well, the, by the ministration is a giant joke. whatever you're out of by, and i mean by does a live stream on youtube, that's 3000 viewers. joe rogan does one on youtube as 15 millions. and

so he's a joke. got everybody, but again, it's this big plus side and then everybody loves sack over the top and then things all day must be in charge. no, it's a totally and completely collapse facade. and i don't really live streaming by chance because my deposit likes joe is less time to delve into another episode of direct impact next with post the force of nature that is rick sanchez on today's rick is giving his tick as well to this week's interview between vladimir put an american journalist tempered products and here his take the the hi, i'm rick sanchez. i've been to. busy news for 30 years, as you may know, donovan,

2 languages all over the world. here in the u. s. interviewed for presidents work that many of the big tv networks in the united states don't like what they do by the way. you know, why? i think news should be honest and direct and impactful, and this is direct impacts the . all right, let's get to it this, this interview with the russian president is important. if for no other reason, then because most americans never get to here or see this guy unless see trips or takes off his shirt. literally. that's the only way americans, whatever. see, mister, put, look, whether you think you hate the guy or what do you think he's wrong? whether you think he's right. what are you basing that on?

if you live in the united states of america and the guy he, by the way, talks all the time. i mean missed appointment president brush. i've talked to all the time, news conferences that live for hours sometimes. but you're never allowed to see or hear those things. so what are you then basing your opinion of him on if you happen to live in a place where he's never said, uh, what are you basing your opinion of the man on rachel motto, anderson cooper, sean had it in the state department. raphael, i'm your neighbor what he thinks or she thinks, i mean, well, what would happen if somebody actually sat down and talked had a conversation with vladimir putin to see what he has to say. i mean, it sounds crazy, right? a lot for, for reasons that i have explained, but very much appreciate now i think differently today me myself for its interest.

i think differently today than how i used to think, i used to believe like perhaps some of you maybe still do that as far as state department and they're loyal servants and cable news said it was so then by golly, it must be so right. cnn, southern it's gotta be right. and if i said somebody was bad, that they must be bad. no matter who they're talking about it again, seeing the world more globally. and i began to realize that, well, look, i love this country, i came from cuba coming this country. so i love this country for its people, for its origins, for all the good that we've done around the world. but there is also much that we are doing and have done, which is kind of dom and maybe not so good. and then there's this stuff that's being sold to us as truth when in fact, if you do a little digging,

even maybe just a little googling, you can find out it's a lie alive. and that is why when i, when i learned this weekend, that a friend of mine was in moscow doing an interview with russian president vladimir put. and i actually reached out to him and he confirmed tucker, carlson and i have remain friends over the years. we worked together and see, and then we appeared together that and then he would often have me on his show when he moved over to fox news. and we've spoken over the years over about a lot of things, business spots, it's politics, etc. by the way, cnn fired me, i could argue for telling too many truths. and eventually, fox news fired him. also, i think for tele, too many troops. and now our paths kind of crash again. because while we both, i think, love our countries. we're both uniquely curious enough to ask me questions

like how the wars, while wars, while the nukes wild lives. why, why so much of my heart are and money, your heart or money being sent abroad, and who's getting rich office stuff, those are not. those are good questions. better never asked those answers by the way, are not going to come from the closing relationship that our media has with the state department or the military contractors that they'd pitch softball questions to on their shows every single bite. know, we sometimes have to look elsewhere right now and want, why not ask those that the state department doesn't want you to hear from if nothing else just just to see what they have to say, right. what's their version of events? and with that,

i want you to hear this interview because i think it's important to say that right . now, i want you to hear this interview that my friend tucker carlson, just did with president put there we go. was by the way, but of because your basic education isn't history as far as i understand. yes. yeah . like the possibility subbing so if you don't mind to i will say it's only 30 seconds or one minute. so give you a short to reference to history for giving you a little historical background, please. so right away, you'll notice of mr. foot and goes right to the point that is difficult for most americans live in our 24 hour news cycle to understand. and it's this, that the history, the culture of the language of russia and ukraine are intertwined. and much of what ukraine is. its infrastructure at schools is building its power plants were put there by russia. yet in 1991, it was all seemingly given away from we're coming to the point where the soviet

ukraine was established. then in 1991, the soviet union, the lab to find that a cup and everything that russia had generously stowed on ukraine was dragged away by the latter. i'm just so this is stuff that plays into what's happening now and it's stuff. most americans know nothing about. so then he moves into the expectation, expectation, because even the loss of ukraine would have been ok says mr. putnam, because of us promised at the time that it would help russia, it will help russia become a partner in the world community. and the 2 would cooperate. united states and the new russia would become friends. both mister pool and historians say that that is what the wes kind of promised, but that is not what the west kind of did. but here's what i see schools i want you as an american citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well. going. what

should you need? the former russian leadership assume that the soviet union has ceased to exist, and therefore, there were no longer any ideological dividing lines that gave them a bunch of other than that. i will say this goes to russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the soviet union was away well and believe that this would be understood by the 20, so called, civilized was using the same as we listen to this interview, there appears to be no bigger thorn in the side of mister quote. and then most russians then what he has come to be known as what, what he describes added. and i think what has come to be known as the nato deception. this is huge, right. the nato deception which led to the nato expansion. i mean, that was never papered in the form of, of

a treaty. there is no shortage of witnesses and reports that detail how us officials did in fact make a promise to russia. upon the unification of germany and upon the soviet collapse that nato would not encroach would not threaten, would not expand toward the russian border. there's all kinds of indications that that was said, they were handshakes their quotes, yet by all indications that turned out to be a lie, the legs good thing to the fact that after and 1991 when russia expected that they would be welcome thing. so they rather leave family of civilized nations. nothing like this happens to trick this. i don't mean to show you personally when i say you, of course i'm talking about the united states. that promise was that nato would not expand east for it, but it happened 5 times. they were by waves of expansion, which all the rain and all that. we were trying to persuade them. we were saying,

when the good, please don't, we are as much as you are now, as you are the we are market economy and there is no communist spark the bowers. let's negotiate. moreover, you have also said this publicly before and a means going to the there was a moment when should i close company digital with data search and ripped started growing between me to us before that else and came to the united states. remember who's spoken congress and said the good the words, god bless america, even though everything he said were signals. so let us and they tricked us. that's what he says. and then he says, look, despite that president yeltsin went to the united states and said, god bless america, it's okay, we can work through this, we can still somehow be friends. and despite all that, now this is mr. perkins version of why marshall has done the things it's done. why it thinks the way it thinks and believe them or don't believe them. it's important

to hear what he has to say, right? mr. button says that he still attempted some type of reproach meant despite. busy of the things that you just heard there team and says, this is so important. and so interesting. he sat with one of our presidents. he's going to tell it here. you're gonna listen to him, say it in his own words. he offered to join nato. unless they build them quite a meeting here in the kremlin with the outgoing president, bill clinton right here in the next room. i said to him, a couple of i asked him easily, but he's still a little stupidly new bill. do you think of russia asked to join nato? do you think it would have happened? let's go to an extra thing to the southern way. he said, you know, it's interesting. i think so you to this was, it was in the evening when we met for dinner ill just like he said, you know, come on. i've talked to him, i'd say no, no, it's not possible. now let's just brush it. you may have the one that you can ask him. i think he will watch our interview. he'll come for

a mentor. and apparently mister portland continued try. he says, even after being turned down on, the nato offered to president clinton. he then tried the poach, but once again, this time with a different president, this time it with it was with george w bush, who helped me offered a deal to share their nukes so that the russians and the united states could create a joint. a missile defense system to, to make the world safer. he thought, and turned their missiles not at each other, but away from each other to protect themselves against others. he says, president bush liked the idea of when he presented it to him. but connelly's a rice and her team at the state department did not did not even as mr. butler suggested to them that this cooperation is cooperation,

could change the world. he said to them at the time as they knew it, i would, i said, i'm just imagine if we could set goals such a global strategic security challenge together. now the world will change more and will probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones. but we could drastically change the situation in the world. a says yes and you and asks, are you serious? i said, of course, we need to think about it on so with, with giving you and i said go ahead please. then secretary of defense gates form and director of c i a and secretary of state rice came in here in this cabinet right here at this table. they sat on the stable me the foreign minister, the russian defense minister on that side. you said a bottle and they said to me, i need yes, we have thought about it. we agree? i said, i think god, great, no, but with some exceptions. so twice you've described us presidents making decisions

and then being under cut by their agency heads. so it sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your talent, even though you know it's troy, can you just try to get those for free for the book and then they just told us the good last. yeah, i'm not going to tell you the details because i think it's incorrect. after all, give us confidential conversation will agree with our proposal was declined. that's right. that even in the and they just told us to get lost in the end, they just told us to get lost. you know, it's interesting because there's already a lot of folks have been watching this interview and a lot of folks are saying, all this history stuff is ponderous and as boring. and i don't know why this paper cross and dude allowed him to just go on and talk for so long about all this stuff

. why did they just cut to the chase and talk about ukraine, but just i feel like it matters now. right, well, so let's, let's go there. how does that? the history, all of this so called to ponder is a stuff that he went through. how does that have to do with the recent attack on ukraine? for mr. put signs were obvious. he says, because of all of that, but he has explained the west, the us nato, had it sites on ukraine. and it was just a matter of time before they took it share, you know, now what else made it was expansion to the north. well, we were promised known a to to beast nothing interested the east, as we were told. and then what's a good note? they said, well, it's nothing trained on paper. so we'll expand the at the machine. so there were 5 waves of expansions of the baltic states, the whole of eastern europe, and so on. you want to know it come to the main thing. they have come to the

ukraine, ultimately, the issue in 2008 at the summit in bucharest, they declared that the doors for ukraine and georgia to join nato were open to the doors for ukraine to join nato. we're open and there you go. and that's how we got to where we are and it is a process. and when we come back, i'm going to be talking to somebody who's really smart on this issue. calling next is here with us. and i think it's important for he and i to talk about not just the interview, but what this interview will signal. will it change? anything don't go away because that's an important part of this conversation. the,

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a lot of people really like and maybe some people who don't, but it's called direct impact, right. what will be the direct impact of this interview that mr. put just it with duck across and that's my question to you. well, i think the 1st thing is that for those who watch it, who haven't enough of an open mind, that they don't just come in there with, you know, the video con mindset will i understand that and someone who's, they've been presented as an irrational, aggressive militaristic adversary and it does have, there was an intellectual and philosophical perspective from the other side that now forget because what happens is this an order for the us of a note for the neo cons to, you know, create all of these international adverbs. everything must be human eyes and they're just aggressive savages who hate a democracy like this gives us a nuance to understand that the people that we are told are crazy. irrational people have a historical context and have

a valid reason to oppose some of the things that we're doing. love him or hate them, and love americans who don't understand or hate americans to understand. you've got to give credit to mr. putnam for being able to articulate thought patterns that may explain to the average american who has never gotten a chance to hear the guy. what the possible explanation for what he's done is, isn't that it's, it's just so simple. i mean, you get disliked your neighbor without ever talking to your neighbor, correct. right. and to see the problem that the, the people, the, the neo cons i'll use that term are going to have it that they've spent so much time dehumanizing vladimir put, making him and you know, not a person, just some kind of an angry entity out there who doesn't act based on any factual information whatsoever. now, people are going to start asking questions such as, well, i thought we couldn't bargain within their saying that they're ready to bargain

right now. i'm having lots to why don't we bargaining with you? and i talked about some of these things, he says, is the line. i don't think he can be lying because these things can be tracked. and i had a conversation with bill clinton, where i offered to him. right? then i, as the president of russia would offer to join nato. i don't, in other words, nato is against me. why don't you let me in that way we can work together. in other words, i want to be your friend. that's what he was saying to bill clinton and apparently bill clinton staff turned it down, but it's kind of provable stuff. is it? absolutely. and let me add this, that i had to deal with the stumble deal, and i got signatures on that deal and you guys got rid of it. and so now they're arguing that he wants to attack nato for who knows why. so the man who wanted to join nato, you turn that down. and now you're telling me that just randomly, he's just decided that when he gets finished with ukraine,

he's just going to attack nato for no reason. is there anything you think and it's hard for you and die because we tend to have a global perspective of the world. so i do, i guess you and i are nerds compared to most americans because you do listen to she's speeches or comments. sometimes not all of them. i do listen to mr buttons, comments. sometimes i listen to mr. monteros comments. sometimes i listen to the people that were not supposed to listen to, but most americans don't. so let me ask perhaps the question this way. did you see anything in his comportment where the average american will watch this interview and think this guy is a fog? this guy is no good. yes guy is a liar. or did you think he broke through for the average person? you know, it just depends on how far you go on, shall we say a person is, it depends on how much a newer they are to the, the foreign policy of the united states and how much they still believe the things they're being told. i do think this, that the numbers that cnn fox, etc, are, are,

are following the numbers of people who are watching the following. i think that this, by the way, point to be made here, pardon me for interrupting. they're all criticizing to, uh, the interview. yeah, uh i just, i just, uh, shared with you earlier, i was just that conversing with tucker, who is a friend of mine, and we share ideas. and i told him, in fact i, i wrote to him, uh, i'll tell you what i said. i said cnn said that it was a softball interview. what did you want? what did they want you to do? kick them in the grime, and to a certain extent, they're going after and why? well, because cnn works for the people who are pushing war and pushing us in, you know, imperialist or whatever, you want to call the international address. and that's what they work for. and that's those are the people that they are, they are bringing in now literally putting in a chair to talk to us on camera data, isn't it? interesting softball, talking about softball interviews and,

and again i did this topic and so fascinating because i've been there, i worked at cnn, cnn, they do softball interviews with the very people who created and orchestrated the rock more and never wants to. i hear i'm invite them and call them on the fact that they created an orchestrated a failed war, an invasion, but yet they're asking tucker to be more hot to be harder and stronger with with, with mr. paint on that point seems hypocritical. well, in the bottom line is they're going to say in a general sense, it was a softball interview, but if you get into the specific details of it, i would ask where, you know, so they're going to attack it from a general perspective. in fact, uh cnn had the really odd story today where they talked about the crazy conspiracy theories that of place president put and put together put forward such as that the elected officials don't actually run things that they're murky people in tobacco. actually one thing the problem they have is that most americans believe that now. so now when they say, well, he's

a crazy conspiracy theorist because he believes that the things that most of you also believe. so americans are going to read that and recognize that just like our ruling elite, our mainstream media is getting further and further away from the electorate. if there was one. and we're going to do a 2nd show on much of the other stuff that was discussed here. but we're on the history right now. everything that predicts the evasion of ukraine began when an ascii makes his argument to russia really want it to be our buddies. they want it to be our friends, they want it to be like us. they looked up to us and we instead essentially, to put them, we decided not to allow them to be our friends. in fact, we became aggressive toward them. that's the story that he was trying to explain. do you think he told it successfully? i think he told it successfully, there's one thing that he snuck in there that was very important that i think he could have elaborated on. and that was why. but he,

he mentioned because we are large, independent the country. right. and so he, he, i think he could have elaborated more on how nato does not want independence. and he could have tied that to the north stream attack. you could have tied at that to some of the other things going on. but i think he elaborated well on that particular point, but there's some other things he could have tied it to good or bad. my opinion, i think this interview will go a long way toward making american see the ukraine situation in the different lights . do you agree? i agree, i think that it will also go a long way in helping americans see foreign policy in a different light. because once a person realize that they've been lied to this level, once they realize that they're being asked to give people are asking 70000000000 a whole 1000000000. what with all of this money, and now that here, we now want to spend all of this money for an adversary who's saying, i don't want to fight to work this out. people are going to start asking about china that an a, ron and vin as well. and say, well,

there's some of these other people that they felt very smart point, but you just spent, why are we spending money on a country that says we don't want to fight with you? how does a very, very articulate way of phrasing that darling, it's always a pleasure. thank so much. there's always so much more to talk about, but this is a very good start and thank you for joining us. before we go, i do want to remind you of something. we have a mission here and it's really pretty simple. i talked about this all time besides of the world. and i'll stop living in these little boxes that you see the sooner you goes a long way toward stopping by the way truce, don't live in boxes, it's everywhere. i'm rick sanchez, he's garland mix it and i'll be looking for you again right here, where i help to provide a direct impact. the is it's,

it's can be started by line piece can be scattered by true importance and we can never be of a station. so that transparency is extraordinary. john mystic, patrice then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to the world public. i mean, what could be more moving back by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the right to free speech. he did so in the public interest. hogwash to so long realize pen smith and golf and, and honestly, to relate continuously. i know why advice may know who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely bought. adjustments for to be on box weighing

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