edition such as a ben called in and who i think is head of the senate foreign relations committee and out demanding the sanctions be imposed against hungary. this is quite a, unheard of its sanctions imposed against the u. s. nato ally, a member of the european union because hungary is not following through on the you as dom on the nature of the mob. that it except a sweet whose induction into nature. and when the outline and the rising capital is a traditional chinese new year celebration of takes off in moscow on friday, is the 1st of many festivities plans the pacific. these plans for the russian chinese use of culture in 2020 full and 2025 high level russian officials on the delegation from the chinese embassy attended the opening ceremony. correspondents, new new waco. and this is kind of give sky elaine, in the very heart of moscow, and this is the 1st time that the chinese new year is being celebrated on such

a grand. the moscow is marching the holiday in his own special way. as you can see, the city is decorated with cultural and traditional chinese. the course. there are chinese lantern, colorful paper cutting as well as the dragon as this is the use of the jacket. and here on the side of the sky, a square people are celebrating the holidays in the most chinese

way as possible. george is a pretty crash, the boy that i didn't think about. but if you're more surprised me too much in me of most just any i'm pushing me or medium is a surprise to me. and sometimes somehow i just like i, i see you in china next to the smart gate is the, i think this has to be a, to me. and that's, that's the one of the reason i come here, i want to experience the russian culture. thanks for joining us there and all the international web back to the top of the the a hi, i'm rick sanchez. i've been doing news for 30 years as you may know, dunham into languages all over the world here in the u. s. interviewed for

presidents work that many of the big tv networks in the united states don't like what they do by the. busy way, you know why i think news should be honest and direct and impactful, and this is direct impacts the . all right, let's get to it this, this interview with the russian president is important. if for no other reason, then because most americans never get to here or see this guy unless the trips or takes off his shirt. literally. that's the only way americans, whatever. see, mister, put, look, whether you think you hate the guy or what do you think is wrong? what do you think is right? what are you basing that on? if you live in the united states of america and the guy he, by the way,

talks all the time. i mean mister president brush, i've talked to all the time news conferences that live for hours sometimes. but you're never allowed to see or hear those things. so what are you then basing your opinion of him on if you happen to live in a place where he's never said, uh, what are you basing your opinion of a man on rachel motto, anderson cooper. sean had it in the state department, raphael, your name or what he thinks or she thinks, i mean, well, what would happen if somebody actually sat down and talked had a conversation with vladimir putin to see what he has to say. i mean, it sounds crazy, right? a lot for reasons that i can't explain but very much appreciate now i think differently today me myself for its interest. i think differently today than how i

used to think, i used to believe like, perhaps some of you maybe still do that as far as state department, and they're loyal servants, and cable news said it was so then by golly, it must be so right. cnn said that it's gotta be right. and if they said somebody was bad, that they must be bad. no matter who they're talking about. again, seeing the world more globally. and i began to realize that, wow, look, i love this country. i came from cuba coming this country. so i love this country for its people, for its origins, for all the good that we've done around the world. but there is also much that we are doing and have done, which is kind of dom and maybe not so good. and then there's the stuff that's being sold to us as truth when in fact, if you do a little digging,

even maybe just a little googling, you can find out. it's a lie, a lie. and that is why when i, when i learned this weekend, that a friend of mine was in moscow doing an interview with the russian president vladimir put. and i actually reached out to him. and he confirmed tucker, carlson and i have remain friends over the years. we work together and cnn. we appeared together that and then, then he would often have me on his show when he moved over to fox news. and we've spoken over the years over about a lot of things business bought. that's politics, etc. by the way, cnn fired me, i could argue for telling too many truths. and eventually fox news fired him. also, i think for tele, too many truths. and now our paths kind of crash again. because while, while we both, i think, love our countries, we're both uniquely curious enough to ask me questions like, how the wars,

while wars, while the nukes, wild allies, why, why so much of my heart are and money, your heart, or money being sent abroad. and who's getting rich off this stuff? those are not. those are questions that are never asked those answers by the way, are not going to come from the closing relationship that our media has with the state department or the military contractors that they'd pitch softball questions to on their shows every single bite. know, we sometimes have to look elsewhere, right. and, and want, why not ask those that the state department doesn't want you to hear from if nothing else just, just to see what they have to say, right. what's their version of events? and with that, i want you to hear this interview because i think it's important to say that right

. now i want you to hear this interview that my friend tucker cross and just did with president put, there we go. a was bus as well, but because your basic education has an history as far as i understand, yes, you think the possible elizabeth? so if you don't mind to i will say normally 30 seconds or one minutes. so give you a short to reference to history for giving you a little historical background, please. so right away, you'll notice that mr. pruitt goes right to the point that is difficult for most americans who. busy in our 24 hour news cycle to understand, and it's this, that the history, the culture of the language of russia and ukraine are intertwined. and much of what ukraine is, its infrastructure at schools is building its power plants were put there by russia . yet in 1991, it was all seemingly given away. one means because we're coming to the point where

the soviet ukraine was established. then in 1991, the so if you and your labs, you had that got that and everything that russia had generously bestowed on ukraine was dragged away by the latter room. just so this is stuff that plays into what's happening now and it's stuff. most americans know nothing about so then he moves into the expectation, expectation, because even the loss of ukraine would have been ok says mr. putnam, because of us promised at the time that it would help russia will help russia become a partner in the world community. and the 2 would cooperate. united states and the new russia would become friends, both mister pool and historians say that that is what the wes kind of promised. but that is not what the west kind of bid. but here's what i see schools i want you as an american citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well. going. bush and

you need the former russian leadership assume that the soviet union has ceased to exist, and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing line. he's given me a push a little different than i was, was saying as close as russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the soviet union was away well. and believe that this would be understood by the so called, civilized was that you use the same as we listen to this interview, there appears to be no bigger thorn in the side of mr. quote. and then most russians then what he has come to be known as what he describes added. and i think what has come to be known as the nato deception. this is huge, right? the nato deception which led to the nato expansion. i mean, that was never papered in the form of, of a treaty. there is no shortage of witnesses and reports that detail how us

officials did in fact make a promise to russia. upon the unification of germany and upon the soviet collapse, that nato would not encroach would not threaten, would not expand toward the russian border. there's all kinds of indications that that was said. they were handshakes their quotes. yet, by all indications that turned out to be a lie in the woods good thing to the fact that after 1991 when russia expected that they would be welcome. thanks. it would be rather lily family of civilized nations . nothing like this happens to the trick this. i don't mean to show you personally when i say you, of course i'm talking about the united states. that promise was that nato would not expend peace for it, but it happened 5 times. they were behind the waves of expansion, which all the rain and all that. we were trying to persuade them. we were saying the good, please don't. we are as bourgeois now as you are. we are

a market economy and there is no communist spark the bowers. let's negotiate. moreover, i have also said this publicly before and that means going to that there was a moment when and she had a question about a digital data search and ripped started growing between want me to sleep for that else and came to the united states. remember who spoken congress and said the good the words, god bless america, even though everything he said were signals of let us and they tricked us. that's what he says. and then he says, look, despite that president yeltsin went to the united states and said, god bless america, it's okay, we can work through this, we can still somehow be friends. and despite all that, now this is mr. perkins version of why marshall has done the things it's done. why it thinks the way it thinks and believe them or don't believe of it's important to

hear what he has to say. right? mr button says that he still attempted some type of reproach meant despite. busy of the things that you just heard there theme and says, this is so important. it's so interesting. he sat with one of our presidents. he's going to tell it here, you're gonna listen to him, say it in his own words. he offered to join nato. of the listing building quite a meeting here in the kremlin with the outgoing president. bill clinton right here in the next room. i said to him, a couple of i asked him basically, but i see the best thing a local stopping in your bill. do you think of russia asked to join nato? do you think it would have happened? because google doesn't actually thing to the southern way. he said, you know, it's interesting to them. i think so you to this was, it was in the evening when we met for dinner. it's just like he said, you know, come on, i've talked to him, i'd say no, no, it's not possible. now, most especially if you may have the one that you can ask him, i think he will watch our interview. he'll come for a mentor. and apparently mister putnam continued try. he says,

even after being turned down on the nato offer to president clinton. he then tried the poach, but once again, this time with a different president, this time it with it was with george w bush, who me offered a deal to share their nukes so that the russians and the united states could create a joint, a missile defense system to make the world safer, he thought and turned their missiles, not at each other, but away from each other to protect themselves against others. he says, president bush liked the idea of when he presented it to him. but kind of liza rice and her team at the state department did not did not even as mr. buttons suggested to them that this cooperation is cooperation, could change the world. he said to them at the time as they knew it. and i

said, i'm just imagine if we could set goals such a global strategic security challenge together, new the world will change more and they will probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones. but we could drastically change the situation in the world. a says yes, and you and asks, are you serious? i said, of course, we need to think about it. and so with what that could be and i said go ahead please. then secretary of defense gates form and director of c i a and secretary of state rice came in here in this cabinet right here at this table. they set, i'm the stable me the foreign minister, the russian defense minister on that side. you said about them, they said to me, i need yes, we have thought about it. we agree most like i said, i think god, great not, but with some exceptions. so twice you've described us presidents making decisions

and then being under cut by their agency heads. so it sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your talent, even though you know it's troy, can you just try to get those for fairly for the book and then they just still just a good last good. yeah, i'm not going to tell you the details because i think it's incorrect. after all, give us confidential conversation to pull up with. our proposal was declined. that's like that even in the and they just told us to get lost in the end. they just told us to get lost. you know, it's interesting because there's already a lot of folks have been watching this interview and a lot of folks are saying, all this history stuff is ponderous and as boring. and i don't know why this paper cross and dude allowed him to just go on and talk for so long about all this stuff . why didn't he just cut to the chase and talk about ukraine, but just

a few of the matters now. right, well, so let's, let's go there. how does that? the history, all of this so called to ponder is a stuff that he went through. how does that have to do with the recent attack on ukraine? for mr. put signs were obvious. he says, because of all of that, but he has explained the west, the us nato, had it sites on ukraine. and it was just a matter of time before they took it, shaking the now what else nato is extension to the most up? no us. well, we were promised no native to beast, nothing interested the east, as we were told. and then what? so i know they said, well, it's nothing trained on paper. so we'll expand the answering machine. so they were fine waves of expansions of the baltic states the whole of eastern europe, and so on. you what the people who don't know it come to the main thing. they have come to the ukraine, ultimately, the issue in 2008 at the summit in bucharest,

they declared that the doors for ukraine and georgia to join nato were open to the doors for the crane to join nato. we're open and there you go. and that's how we got to where we are and it is a process. and when we come back, i'm going to be talking to somebody who's really smart on this issue. calling next is here with us. and i think it's important for he and i to talk about not just the interview, but what this interview will signal. will it change? anything? don't go away because that's an important part of this conversation. the israel too,

is so selfish. entrance is not just destroying is rep is not only destroying the so called legitimacy as well in the eyes of the world. but it's destroying the, the fall of the western project, the whole of the notion of western civilization, and somehow western civilization being exceptional for the greatest civilization. now people are looking down at the web, the welcome back. this is going to be a important conversation because there's so much meet here. and i, i can't think of anybody else. i'd rather talk to about this than garland dixon. there he is. he's, you know, girl and he's the co host of the critical, our on split the radio and he's joined us in the past. all right. you know what i want to start with this program that we do that

a lot of people really like it may be some people who don't, but it's called direct impact, right. what will be the direct impact of this interview that mr. put justin with duck across and that's my question to you. well, i think the 1st thing is that for those who watch it, who haven't enough of an open mind, that they don't just come in there with, you know, the video con mindset will i understand that and someone who's, they've been presented as an irrational, aggressive militaristic adversary and it does have, there was an intellectual and philosophical perspective from the other side that now forget because what happens is this an order for the us of, in order for the neo cons to, you know, create all of these international adverbs to everything must be human eyes and they're just aggressive savages who hate a democracy like this gives us a nuance to understand that the people that we are told are crazy. irrational people have a historical context and have

a valid reason to oppose some of the things that we're doing. love him or hate them, and love americans who don't understand or hate americans to understand. you've got to give credit to mister bowden, for being able to articulate thought patterns that may explain to the average american who has never gotten a chance to hear the guy. what the possible explanation for what he's done is, isn't that it's, it's just so simple. i mean, you get disliked your neighbor without ever talking to your neighbor. correct? right. and to see the problem that the, the people, the, the neo cons i'll use that term are going to have, is that they've spent so much time dehumanizing vladimir put, making him and you know, not a person, just some kind of an angry entity out there who doesn't act based on any factual information whatsoever. now, people are going to start asking questions such as, well, i thought we couldn't bargain within their saying that they're ready to bargain

right now. i'm have much time. why don't we bargaining with you? and i talked about some of these things, he says, is he lives? i don't think he can be lying because these things can be tracked that i had a conversation with bill clinton, where i offered to him. right? that i, as the president of russia would offer to join nato. i don't, in other words, nato is against me. why don't you let me in that way we can work together. in other words, i want to be your friend. that's what he was saying to bill clinton and apparently bill clinton staff turned it down. right. and kind of provable stuff is the absolutely, and let me add this, that i had to deal with the stumble deal. and i got signatures on that deal. and you guys got rid of it, and so now they're arguing that he wants to attack nato for who knows why. so the man who wanted to join nato, you turn that down. and now you're telling me that just randomly, he's just decided that when he gets finished with ukraine,

he's just going to attack nato for no reason. is there anything you think and it's hard for you and die? because we tend to have a global perspective of the world. so i do, i guess you and i are nerds compared to most americans because you do listen to she's speeches or comments. sometimes not all of them. i do listen to mr. buttons, comments. sometimes i listen to mr. monteros comments. sometimes i listen to the people that were not supposed to listen to, but most americans don't. so let me ask perhaps the question this way. did you see anything in his compartment where the average american will watch this interview and think this guy is a thug? this guy is no good. this guy is a liar. or did you think he broke through for the average person? you know, it just depends on how far the go on shall we say a person is it depends on how much a newer they are to the, the foreign policy of the united states and how much they still believe the things they are being told. i do think this, that the numbers that cnn, fox, etc, are,

are, are following the numbers of people who are watching the following. i think that this, by the way, point to be made here, pardon me for interrupting you. they're all criticizing the, uh, the interview. yeah. uh, i just, i just, uh, shared with you earlier, i was just conversing with tucker, who is a friend of mine, and we share ideas. and i told him, in fact, uh, i wrote to him, uh, i'll tell you what i said. i said cnn said that it was a softball interview. what did you want? what did they want you to do? kick them in the grime, and to a certain extent, they're going after and why? well, because cnn works for the people who are pushing war and pushing us in the imperialist or whatever you want to call the international address. and that's what they work for. and that's those are the people that they are, they are bringing in now literally putting in a chair to talk to us on camera day. well, isn't it interesting softball, talking about softball interviews and again on this topic and so fascinated because

i've been there. i worked at cnn, cnn, they do softball interviews with the very people who created and orchestrated the rock more. and never once do i hear i'm invite them and call them on the fact that they created an orchestrated a failed war, an invasion. but yet they're asking tucker to be more hot to be harder and stronger with, with, with mr. paint on that point seems hypocritical. well, in the bottom line is they're going to say in a general sense, it was a softball interview. but if you get into the specific details of it, i would ask where, you know, so they're going to attack it from a general perspective. in fact, uh cnn had that really odd story today where they talked about the crazy conspiracy theories that of a place present it put and put together, put forward such as that the elected officials don't actually run things that they're murky people in tobacco. actually one thing the problem they have is that most americans believe that now. so now when they say, well, he's

a crazy conspiracy theorist because he believes that the things that most of you also believe. so americans are going to read that and recognize that just like our ruling elite, our mainstream media is getting further and further away from the electric. if there was one. and we're going to do a 2nd show on much of the other stuff that was discussed here. but we're on the history right now. everything that predicts the evasion of ukraine began when m. s . key makes his argument to russia really want it to be our bodies. they want it to be our friends. they want it to be like us. they looked up to us and we instead essentially, to put them, we decided not to allow them to be our friends. in fact, we became aggressive toward them. that's the story that he was trying to explain. do you think he told it successfully? i think he told it successfully, there's one thing that he's not getting there. that was very important that i think he could have elaborated on. and that was why. but he,

he mentioned because we are large, independent the country. right. and so he, he, i think he could have elaborated more on how nato does not want independence. and he could have tied that to the north stream attack. you could have tied at that to some of the other things going on. but i think he elaborated well on that particular point, but there's some other things he could have tied it to good or bad. my opinion, i think this interview will go a long way toward making american see the ukraine situation in a different light. do you agree? i agree, i think that it will also go a long way and helping americans see foreign policy in a different light. because once a person realize that they've been lied to this level, once they realize that they're being asked to give people are asking 70000000000 a 100000000000, what's with all of this money? and now that here we're you. now what the spend all of this money before an adversary who's saying, i don't want to fight, can't we work this out? people are going to start asking about china that it in a ron and vin as well and say, well,

there's some of these other people. it's also very smart point, but you just spent, why are we spending money on a country that says we don't want to fight with you? that is a very, very articulate way of phrasing that darling, it's always a pleasure. thanks so much. there's. oh, so much more to talked about, but this is a very good start and thank you for joining us. before we go. i do want to remind you of something. we have a mission here and it's really pretty simple. i talked about this all time besides to the world, you know, stop living in these little boxes that you see. this interview goes a long way towards stopping that. 5 truce don't live in boxes, it's everywhere. i'm rick sanchez. he's got a mix and, and i'll be looking for you again right here, where i help to provide a direct impact. the

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