other mans such as present and evidence of medical mental issues, but todd made it clear he doesn't want to join the army for political reasons. i refused to believe that move islands will bring security. i refused to take part in the war of revenge, diplomacy, political efforts and policy change of the only way to prevent further destruction and death on both sides. even with all the violence in the world, we could not to raise the palestinian people that connection to this land. just as the jewish people connection to that same land cannot be erased, violence cannot solve the situation. need a boy from us, noble israel, all those who came here to protest share the young men's position. so i decided that the result of the, well, i made that decision and that was about to expand. i can take calls in the commission and the final course is visit any knots. and the funny thing and people seems the role that has only become meaningful them. so to me, because this voice is getting smaller and smaller inside the phase of it as it

shifts to that, i think so the 7 and because of the violence against the point of a life now is phone bill and what was the name right now? it's a little cold in the middle to hard for with ceasefire, but more than that sort of political solution and then sort of thing. anybody into this position now? you go? yeah, the 25th of february. i'm supposed to both of them that are ways to get exemptions that the notes can you please? and i didn't do that only about 50 percent, the favorite action to finish the silver. what i chose to do it this way, and i chose to make his political and not just guessing exemption, wisely compliant movies and these ladies kind of thing and especially to young people who showed them to think there's an option. peace is an option. are you worried about the consequences? most of the consequences would be social because this is a really unexpected thing. it needs to learn. and these ladies, society is very lightweight and vis me against that kind of thing. and the minute

that easy me is at the top of the site, since i've already gotten me a very store backlash and mostly online and for medium, but also from some people that i know a telling me maybe if they feel a sense hating ju wishing and binding puts it on me, doing the choices willingly being a probably can. we hate them bilson and decide who live in the professors believe the residents events like this one will be able to sway public opinion and encourage more youngsters to open the refuse to serve in the idea of maurice and also not r t reporting from each row. many are saying tucker carlos is interview of why the mirror poon could be the interview of the century as it's been watch millions of times over the world. with many, analyzing the meaning behind the president statements. carlson for his part has been hounded by the establishment for apparently doing journalism. stay tuned for

the discussion next on direct and the the. hi, i'm rick sanchez. i've been doing news for 30 years as you may know. dunham in 2 languages all over the world. here in the u. s. interviewed for presidents. worked with many of the big tv networks in the united states. don't like what they do by the. busy way, you know why i think news should be honest and direct and impactful, and this is direct impacts the . all right, let's get to it this, this interview with the russian president is important. if for no other reason,

then because most americans never get to here or see this guy unless the trip so takes off his shirt. literally. that's the only way americans, whatever. see, mister, put, look, whether you think you hate the guy or what do you think he's wrong? what do you think he's right? what are you basing that on? if you live in the united states of america and the guy he, by the way, talks all the time. i mean mister president brush, i've talked to all the time news conferences that live for hours sometimes. but you're never allowed to see or hear those things. so what are you then basing your opinion of him on if you happen to live in a place where he's never said, uh, what are you basing your opinion of a man on rachel motto, anderson cooper. sean had it in the state department. raphael, i'm your neighbor what he thinks or she thinks, i mean, well,

what would happen if somebody actually sat down and talked, i had a conversation with vladimir putin to see what he has to say. i mean, it sounds crazy, right? look for, for reasons that i have explained, but very much appreciate now i think differently today me myself, rick sanchez, i think differently today than how i used to think i used to believe like perhaps some of you maybe still do that as far as state department and they're loyal servants, and cable news said it was so then by golly, it must be so right. cnn 7, it's gotta be right. and if i said somebody was bad that they must be bad. no matter who they're talking about. it again, seeing the world more globally, and i began to realize that, wow, look, i love this country,

i came from cuba coming this country. so i love this country for its people, for its origins, for all the good that we've done around the world. but there is also much that we are doing and have done, which is kind of dom and maybe not so good. and then there's this stuff that's being sold to us as truth when in fact if you do a little digging even maybe just a little googling you can find. 2 it's a lie, a lie. and that is why when i, when i learned this weekend, that a friend of mine was in moscow doing an interview with russian president vladimir put. and i actually reached out to him and he confirmed tucker, carlson and i have remain friends over the years. we work together and cnn. we appeared together that and then he would often have me on his show when he moved over to fox news. and we've spoken over the years over about

a lot of things business bought. that's politics, etc. by the way, cnn fired me. i could argue for calling to many truths. and eventually, fox news fired him. also, i think for tele, too many troops. and now our paths kind of crash again, because while, while we both, i think, love our countries, we're both uniquely curious enough to ask me questions like, how the wars, while wars, while the nukes wild lives. why, why it's so much of my heart are and money, your heart or money being sent abroad, and who's getting rich office stuff. those are not. those are good questions. better never asked those answers by the way, are not going to come from the cosy relationship that our media has with the state department or the military contractors that they pitch softball questions to on

their shows every single bite. know we sometimes have to look elsewhere. right. and what, why not ask those that the state department doesn't want you to hear from if nothing else just just to see what they have to say, right? what's their version of events? and with that, i want you to hear this interview because i think it's important to say that right . now, i want you to hear this interview that my friend tucker carlson, just did with president put here we go. it was by the way, i but because your basic education isn't history as far as i understand. yes. yes, very possible. it should be. so if you don't mind to, i will say it's only 30 seconds or one minute. so give you a short to reference to history for giving you a little historical background, please. so right away, you'll notice that mr. put goes right to the point that is difficult for most

americans live in our 24 hour news cycle to understand. and it's this, that the history, the culture of the language of russia and ukraine are intertwined. and much of what ukraine is, its infrastructure at schools is building its power plants were put there by russia . you had a 1991. it was all seemingly given away from we're coming to the point where the soviet ukraine was established. then in 1991, the soviet union collapsed to the company. and everything that russia had generously bestowed on ukraine was dragged away by the latter. oh yes. so this is stuff that plays into what's happening now and it's stuff most americans know nothing about. so then he moves into the expectation, expectation, because even the loss of ukraine would have been ok says mr. putnam, because of us promised at the time that it would help russia will help russia

become a partner in the world community. and the 2 would cooperate. united states and the new russia would become friends. both mister pool and historians say that that is what the west kind of promised, but that is not what the west kind of bid. but here's what i see schools i want you as an american citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well on your books and you get, you need the former russian leadership. i assume that the soviet union has ceased to exist, and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing line. he's given me a bunch of other than that, i will say this goes to russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the soviet union was away well and believe that this would be understood by the 20 so called, civilized was. so using the same as we listen to this interview, there appears to be no bigger thorn in the side of mister quote. and then most

russians then. busy he has come to be known as what he describes added and i think what has come to be known as the nato deception. this is huge, right. the nato deception which led to the nato expansion. it was never papered in the form of a of a treaty. there is no shortage of witnesses and reports that detail how us officials did in fact make a promise to russia. upon the unification of germany and upon the soviet collapse, that nato would not encroach would not threaten, would not expand toward the russian border. there's all kinds of indications that that was said. they were handshakes their quotes. yet, by all indications that turned out to be a lie, the legs good thing to the fact that after and 1991 when russia expected that they

put the welcome thing. so they rather leave family of civilized nations. nothing like this happens to the trick because i don't mean you personally when i say you, of course i'm talking about the united states. that promise was that nato would not expend east for it, but it happened 5 times. they were finally waves of expansion, which all the rain and all that. we were trying to persuade them. we were saying, please don't, we are as much as you are now, as you are the, we are market economy and there is no communist spark the bowers. let's negotiate. moreover, i have also said this publicly before and a means going to that there was a moment when i got the she had a couple of digital data searched and ripped started roving between me to sleep for that else and came to the united states. remember who's spoken congress and said the good the words, god bless america, even though everything he said were signals of let us and they

tricked us. that's what he says. and then he says, look, despite that president yeltsin went to the united states and said, god bless america, it's okay, we can work through this, we can still somehow be friends. and despite all that, now this is mr. pollutants version of why washer has done the things it's done. why it thinks the way it thinks and believe them or don't believe them. it's important to hear what he has to say, right? mr button says that he's still attempted some type of reproach meant despite. busy of the things that you just heard there even says this is so important. and so interesting. he sat with one of our presidents. he's gonna tell it here. he's gonna listen to him, say it in his own words. he offered to join nato unless they build them quite a meeting here in the kremlin with the outgoing president, bill clinton right here in the next room. i said to him, a couple of i asked him basically, but he's still a little stupidly new bill. do you think of russia asked to join nato?

do you think it would have happened? because google does an extra thing to the southern way. he said, you know, it's interesting. i think so you to this was, it was in the evening when we met for dinner ill just like he said, you know, come on. i've talked to him, i'd say no, no, it's not possible. now let's just brush it. you may have the windows, you can ask him, i think he will watch our interview. he'll confirm into that. apparently mister portland continued try. he says, even after being turned down on, the nato offered to president clinton. he then tried the poach. but once again, this time with a different president, this time it with it was with george w bush. me offered a deal to share their nukes so that the russians and the united states could create a joint, a missile defense system to, to make the world safer. he thought and turned their missiles not at each other,

but away from each other to protect themselves against others. he says, president bush liked the idea of when he presented it to him. but connelly's a rice and her team at the state department did not. did not even as mister buttons suggested to them that this cooperation is cooperation, could change the world. he said to them at the time as they knew it, i would, i said, i'm just imagine if we could set goals such a global strategic security challenge together. new, the world will change more and they will probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones. but we could drastically change the situation in the world. a says yes and you and asks, are you serious? i said, of course, we need to think about it and so what, what that could be. and i said go ahead please. then secretary of defense gates

form and director of c i a and secretary of state rice came in here in this cabinet right here at this table. they set on the stable me the for administer the russian defense minister on that side. and he said about them, they said to me, i need yes, we have thought about it. we agree. i said, well, the thing got great. no, but with some exceptions. so twice you've described us presidents making decisions and then being under cut, by their agency heads. so it sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your talent, even though you know it's try printing, just try to get the book and then they just told us to get lost. if i'm not going to tell you the details, because i think it's incorrect after all, give us confidential conversation. but with our proposal was declined. that's i thought that even in the and they just told us to get

lost in the end. they just told us to get lost. you know, it's interesting because there's already a lot of folks have been watching this interview and a lot of folks are saying, all this history stuff is ponderous and as boring. and i don't know why this tucker carlson dude allowed him to just go on and talk for so long about all this stuff. why did they just cut to the chase and talk about ukraine because i feel like it matters now. right, well, so let's just go there. how does that? the history, all of this so called to ponder is a stuff that he went through. how does that have to do with the recent attack on ukraine? for mr. put signs were obvious. he says, because of all of that, but he has explained the west, the us nato, had it sites on ukraine. and it was just a matter of time before they took it share, you know,

now what else made it was extension to the, you know, as well we were promised, no native to beast, nothing interested the east, as we were told. and then what's a good note? they said, well it's nothing trained on paper. so we'll expand the answering machine. so there were 5 waves of expansions of the baltic states, the whole of eastern europe, and so on. you want to know it come to the main thing, they have come to the ukraine, ultimately, the issue in 2008 at the summit in bucharest, they declared that the doors for ukraine and georgia to join nato were open to the doors for ukraine to join nato, we're open and there you go. and that's how we got to where we are and it is a process. and when we come back, i'm going to be talking to somebody who's really smart on this issue. calling next is here with us. and i think it's important for he and i to talk about not just the

interview, but what this interview will signal. will it change? anything? don't go away because that's an important part of this conversation. the . the welcome back. this is going to be an

important conversation because there's so much meet here. and i, i can't think of anybody else. i'd rather talk to about this than garland dixon. there he is. he's, you know, girl and he's the co host of the critical, our on split the radio and he's joined us in the past. all right. you know what i want to start with this program that we do that a lot of people really like it may be some people who don't, but it's called direct impact, right. what will be the direct impact of this interview that mr. put. and justin with duck across and that's my question as well. i think the 1st thing is that for those who watch it, who haven't enough of an open mind, that they don't just come in there with, you know, the video con mindset will i understand that and someone who has, they've been presented as an irrational, aggressive militaristic adversary and it does have, there was an intellectual and philosophical perspective from the other side that

now forget because what happens is this an order for the us of a know for the neo cons to, you know, create all of these international adverbs. everything must be human eyes and they're just aggressive savages who hate a democracy like this gives us a nuance to understand that the people that we are told are crazy. irrational people have a historical context and have a valid reason to oppose some of the things that we're doing love him or hate them and love americans who don't understand or hate americans to understand. you've got to give credit to mr. prudent for being able to articulate thought patterns that may explain to the average american who has never gotten a chance to hear the guy. what the possible explanation for what he's done is, isn't that it's, it's just so simple. i mean, you get disliked your neighbor without ever talking to your neighbor, correct? right. and to see the problem that the, the people, the,

the neo cons i'll use that term are going to have, is that they've spent so much time dehumanizing vladimir, put and making him and, you know, not a person, just some kind of an angry entity out there who doesn't act based on any factual information whatsoever. now, people are going to start asking questions such as, well, i thought we couldn't bargain within their saying that they're ready to bargain right now. how does i mean, let's, let's talk while we've arguing with you and i talked about some of these things. he says, easy live. i don't think he can be lying because these things can be tracked that i had a conversation with bill clinton, where i offered to him. right? that i, as the president of russia would offer to join nato. i don't, in other words, nato is against me. why don't you let me in that way we can work together? in other words, i want to be your friend. that's what he was saying to bill clinton and apparently bill clinton staff turned it down. what kind of provable stuff is it?

absolutely, and let me add this that i had to deal with the stumble deal and i got signatures on that deal and you guys got rid of it. and so now they're arguing that he wants to attack nato for who knows why. so the man who wanted to join nato, you turn that down. and now you're telling me that just randomly, he's just decided that when he gets finished with ukraine, he's just going to attack nato for no reason. is there anything you think and it's hard for you and die because we tend to have a global perspective of the world. so i do, i guess you and i are nerds compared to most americans because you do listen to she's speeches or comments. sometimes not all of them. i do listen to mr buttons, comments. sometimes i listen to mr. monteros comments. sometimes i listen to the people that were not supposed to listen to, but most americans don't. so let me ask perhaps the question this way. did you see anything in his compartment where the average american will watch this interview

and think this guy is a thug? this guy is no good. yes guy is a liar. or did you think he broke through for the average person? you know, it just depends on how far we go. all in shall we say a person is it depends on how much a newer they are to the, the foreign policy of the united states and how much they still believe the things they're being told. i do think this, that the numbers that cnn fox, etc, are, are, are following the numbers of people who are watching the following. i think that this, by the way, to be made here, pardon me for interrupting. they're all criticizing to, uh, the interview. yeah. uh, i just, i just, uh, shared with you earlier, i was just been conversing with tucker, who is a friend of mine, and we share ideas. and i told him, in fact, uh, i wrote to him, uh, i'll tell you what i said. i said cnn said that it was a softball interview. what did you want? what did they want you to do? kick them in the grime, and to a certain extent, they're going after and why?

well, because cnn works for the people who are pushing war and pushing us in, you know, imperialist or whatever, you want to call the international address. and that's what they work for. and that's those are the people that they are, they are bringing in now literally putting in a chair to talk to us on camera data, isn't it? interesting softball, talking about softball interviews and, and again on. this topic is so fascinating because i've been there, i worked at cnn, cnn, they do softball interviews with the very people who created and orchestrated the rock more and never wants to. i hear i'm invite them and call them on the fact that they created an orchestrated a failed war, an invasion, but yet they're asking tucker to be more heart to be harder and stronger with with, with mr. paper on that point seems hypocritical. well, in the bottom line is they're going to say in a general sense, it was a softball interview, but if you get into the specific details of it, i would ask where, you know, so they're going to attack it from

a general perspective. in fact, uh cnn had that really odd story today where they talked about the crazy conspiracy theories that of places present it put in, put together, put forward such as that the elected officials don't actually run things that they're murky people in tobacco. actually one thing the problem they have is that most americans believe that now. so now when they say, well, he's a crazy conspiracy theorist because he believes the things that most of you also believe. so americans are going to read that and recognize that just like our ruling elite, our mainstream media is getting further and further away from the electric. if there was one. and we're going to do a 2nd show on much of the other stuff that was discussed here. but we're on the history right now. everything that predicts the evasion of ukraine began when m. s . key makes his argument in russia really want it to be our bodies. they want it to be our friends, they want it to be like us. they looked up to us and we instead essentially,

to put them, we decided not to allow them to be our friends. in fact, we became aggressive toward them. that's the story that he was trying to explain. do you think he told it successfully? i think he told it successfully, there's one thing that he's not getting there. that was very important that i think he could have elaborated on. and that was why, but he, he mentioned because we are large, independent the country. right. and so he, he, i think he could have elaborated more on how nato does not want independence. and he could have tied that to the north stream attack. he could have tied at that to some of the other things going on. but i think he elaborated well on that particular point, but there's some other things he could have tied it to good or bad. my opinion, i think this interview will go a long way toward making american see the ukraine situation in the different light . do you agree? i agree, i think that it will also go a long way in helping americans see foreign policy in

a different light. because once a person realize that they've been lied to, to this level, once they realize that they're being asked to give people are asking 70000000000 a whole 1000000000. what's with all of this money? and now that here we're you. now, what to spend all of this money before an adversary who's saying i don't want to fight till we work this out. people are going to start asking about china that it in a ron and vin as well and say, well, there's some of these other people. it's also very smart point, but you just spent, why are we spending money on a country that says we don't want to fight with you? that is a very, very articulate way of phrasing that darling, it's always a pleasure. thanks so much. there's. oh, so much more to talk about, but this is a very good start and thank you for joining us. before we go, i do want to remind you of something. we have a mission here and it's really pretty simple. i talked about this all time besides to the world, and i'll stop living in these little boxes that you see. this interview goes a long way towards stopping by the way. troops don't live in boxes, it's everywhere. i'm rick sanchez. he's got that mix and,

and i'll be looking for you again right here, where i help to provide a direct impact. the israel, who is so selfish entrance is not just destroying is rep, is not only destroying the so called legitimacy as well. in the eyes of the world, but it's destroying the, the whole of the western project, the whole of the notion of western civilization and somehow western civilization being exceptional, or the greatest civilization. now people are looking down at the web, the the,

the a 6 year old palestinian girl whose story went viral after she went missing. one of her family's car was shot out and gaza by the idea is found dead along with a red crescent mission sent to rescue her. the humanitarian group calls the killings, deliver it as a is really military prepares to invade the southern god. the city of rossa were over a 1000000, the display civilians are sheltering. we hear some firing contracting opinions on the 28000 people did among them 12150 children next day. that's low. the slogan for the lam, i'm a.