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defeat republicans on sky. now, here's an on this edition of $360.00 view. we're going to discuss whether a portion is really going to play a large factor in the 2024 election cycle. or if this is just a democrat strategy to distract the lackluster results. so it's for an engine messic, a july, the 1st term. let's get started, the it's another election cycle and of course, the broken record of reproductive rights. more specifically, abortion rights is at the forefront of the democrats agenda. now it's 2022. when the supreme court overturn roe vs wade, i would have thought this would have eliminated the use of the abortion debate and federal elections. yet, following the recent wins of the democratic party on the backs of anti abortion

limiting valid initiatives in virginia and ohio, it's obvious. democrats seen making the issue of abortion. a priority is a winning strategy for them. this isn't rocket science or anything new yet. the republicans, more specifically republican candidates, have not yet effectively been able to collaborate together to provide a good defense on this topic. ok, i want to break it all down for you on the strategy of both sides regarding abortion and the role it plays with the electric united states supreme court took away that constitutional rights, a fund to mental, right? a basic freedom from the people of america, from the women of america on, once i do have democrats for hoping to use the topic really to distract from the current state of america, following the 1st term of the binding ministration. now poland 2022 showed over half of americans thought they were in imminent danger and is once per day. and

with reason headlines showing an increase in carjackings and violent crimes all in major cities. americans definitely feel less safe today than even 3 years ago. coming out of the pen demik, now coupled with increased inflation, the consistent threat of action by the american military and a foreign more $33.00 trillion dollars in debt. rising health care costs and a less secure southern border, which is already allowed more than $2500000.00 illegal immigrants across this year . you can see why democrats hope to make the only subject which they seem to be winning on the key issue. meanwhile, republicans on the other side, taking a really odd approach of basically ignored no, maybe they feel it's a moot con diversity says roe vs wade on the federal level. my friends, let's be encouraged. let's press on in hope and then we can joined together and make this great difference. i believe that we can, we can stand with every woman for every child and we can truly build

a culture the cherishes and protects life. but this would be awfully short sighted because of democrats are able to motivate their electric enough to overwhelmingly control congress. make no mistake. they are going to push to grow the number on the bench. if this happens, it is almost guarantee. there will be another abortion case, which will find its way to the supreme court and will be ruled and the democrats favor. the national public and party has once again underestimated the power of single issues motivated and electorate at the state level. it is obvious, the democrats realize this and will continue to build and the state level victories to counter any legislation made at the federal. and i want to continue this discussion with our panel of educated guest angel mcardle his chair of the libertarian national committee. and jesse k, robinson health professional duleigh and media commenter. thank you so much for

joining me ladies. i think this is a very interesting conversation that's happening americans. the one that i think we've probably had since the day all of us were born is about abortion. and reproductive rights of the united states, and yet we still don't have a solution that is good for all parties involved. so i want to get to it later about whether this is all being done on purpose to divide rather than actually just solution. but i want to start with you angela on this because more than the economy, more than the rise of crime or national security. do you believe abortion today is really at the top of women's minds? i don't think so. i think this is largely manufacturer to the controversy over a portion of i think this is definitely something that's going to be played up heavily in the election. but i personally, i'm concerned with the economy. i'm concerned with putting food on the table, gas prices, nuclear war, you know, seeing our tax dollar shipped overseas to for and complex. i'm not thinking about

abortion when i wake up every day. well, in depth see i have to ask, do you think this is more important for certain democratic demographic men versus women? males young versus old, even if we're talking about various races, do you think it's more important to others rather than just the broad electorate in general? well, i think it does, it does resume with multiple audiences for different reasons. i think younger people are recognizing that progressive issues are very much connected to each other. i do think that it does resonate largely with women because abortion is a health care issue. and to, to say that it's manufactured, i, you know, i think that's a bit of a scratch. i think that if you are understanding what progressive politics or about your recognizing that abortion is health care and health care is attached to the economy. and if we're really looking at these other issues that have to do with

putting food on the table, having another mouth to feed is definitely an economic issue. it's social issue, it's an economic issue. it's a health issue. and so to narrow it down to this sort of singular, you know, issue doesn't really respect the place that it has amongst the lives of people who are trying to put the food on their table to live healthfully and live and, and progressive voters recognize that when you attack women's rights and health care rights. you know that other marginalized communities are coming gay rights, a marriage, all that is on the table. when you start attacking reproductive rights does say i can see exactly where you're coming from. and i see your point in that, but i have to ask you when you do talk, i agree, it is an economic issue. but why do you feel like it is as it was brought originally by angela was the fact that the economy is very important to us. national security is important to us when we're talking about the economy. if we're

talking about abortion, why are we talking also about supporting a mother who does decide to have a baby? why is it that conversation in arguments just as important as the abortion issue? is it america today? why are we having put and put that much emphasis on that as a party, as a democrat and republican party, if that truly is what it is about the, the economy. i absolutely agree with you, scotty. i absolutely agree with you. and i think, you know, it's, it's unfortunate how sort of bifurcated this conversation is about abortion as opposed to pro life or pro choice or pro abortion which i don't think most people are pro abortion. i think most people approach ways. but if we're thinking about pro life, i think we're having a very narrow conversation amongst conservatives, which are really about pro birth the really just about birth. because if they were about life, they would be promoting and advocating for policies that ameliorate the lives of

people who have children. i rarely, if ever see as part of the conservative platform of pro lived fair wages for women. improving health care universal, pre k, improving the family leave act, all of those things are part of being pro life. and so i would agree if we're really trying to make a case for the pro life platform, then it should really be about the living as well. as just bursting more people. and so if we are really trying to, with this issue to a place where we're both sides could agree, then we would also be talking about black material out numbers. black women are 3 times as likely as, as white women to die, having a baby in this country in the most advanced nation in the world. that is not part of the conservative platform about approving,

improving and ameliorate in the lives of black and brown women who are dying, having children. and if you go into our major cities, that number is anywhere from $7.00 to $12.00 times as likely as their white counterparts to die having a baby and that is so improved conversation then would you be including that in the conversation? i agree with you, and i wanna bring angela in on this as a fact because you're right. republicans aren't talking about it, but neither are democrats. that's the thing. democrats are and also bringing that conversation either. do you think this is on purpose? um angela. the fact that you are saying it's either it's clerk that you're either pro life, your pro choice. we're not having that conversation that would actually make this be a solution for all involved and treat the other issues that are happening that are causing women to have abortions that are causing women to not be able to take care of their babies or make that choice so the national literature in party has removed abortion from our platform. we're silent on the issue because we think that it's divisive and we think that the country is out of gridlock,

place politically and culturally we're, we're not going to have us a solid answer. there is no, yes or no on a portion right now, people are undecided. and i think thoughts, republican candidates generally shoot themselves in the foot when they go really hard on this issue. it seems to be that americans want women to have access to abortion, but they do not. by the same token, they do not like it. when democrats go really hard on this issue and say that they are for the 3rd term, abortion partial birth abortion. that's also a turn off. so you know, my personal perspective on this is we need to just completely step away from it. i would much rather let this be decided culturally, is this something that is a cultural issue and by the same token. so is the respect for, for life, the respect for individual rights to try to pay almost like um to revamp the image of, of women and child care and normalizing and making it seem fun. right? to have a family and to support women at home. you know, there's a, there's a,

there's an interesting kind of cultural phenomenon that i see happening on. i don't want to say like the far right, but some of the friend right with, with men who are better about women and they want to only date women with very little body accounts. they want to marry a woman who's like 22 years old and a virgin. and i think that this is sort of related to the abortion argument. it's sort of where is a woman's place culturally in the workplace, at home, or whatever. if we want to be very pro life, culturally, we have to start saying like, you know, what, we respected value women and also we're gauging in a little bit of cultural whiplash right now. because what, what my generation has been told in generations before me is that a woman has to be, um, we have to be a 2 income household. you have to go to college, you have to have in addition, you have to have whole streams and all this. and it doesn't really, it doesn't paint a balance view of what it is to be a woman. it doesn't include providing for child and health care. and so i think if you're a young woman and you're in college and you get the,

you get pregnant accidentally, there's a lot of social pressure on you to have an abortion. and there's not a lot of at least perceived support. so we have to really start at the root of this issue before we start having politicians decide arbitrarily. or maybe because of, you know, the faith based issue and they really have values on it. but right, we can't just be letting them call the shots. this isn't much deeper issue. and angela, you're right, i'm going to take a break. i just, it seems like a great point to take a break on us because we've probably had more of a civil conversation on this issue between the 3 of us finding common ground that i find most often. and capitol hill just down the street when they bring up a portion. so we're going to take our break because when we come back we're to continue with our panel and look at what it says about the american vote. or if they can be motivated just by one single issue, which does not affect their everyday life. or the,

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welcome back to this very important discussion about the influence of abortion rights in america, and what it will have on the 2024 election with our guest panel, angel mccardle, chair, libertarian national committee, and jessica robinson health professional duleigh and media commentator. thank you. i, you know, before we, we broke off, we went to the break. we were talking about what conversations neither party i believe is having right now. in regards to abortion, it's real easy to throw a portion out there because it's black and white. but there's several other issues that both parties could do. but prior to this, i'm going to throw this over to you angela. what is the effect of the ro versus weight rolling on this issue? i mean, it was supposed to send it back to the state. $60000000.00 babies have still been

allowed to be a board america since the ruling. so bush is still legal in the united states. would that not have confirmed that conversation finish that conversation elected to the states to decide i think that this is just emboldened democrats and help them supercharged their base. i. i mean, to the extent that the supreme court has to deal with these issues like i get it and i'm sympathetic, but they have to deal with that. and i'm not even going to say that they're, they're wrong in their decision. procedurally i didn't think that roe vs wade was a very well written argument. but the reality is they handed elections, you know, and, and excitement and enthusiasm to the democrats. so, you know, i think that's really where we're at right now. and republican candidates are just trying to catch up and they don't really understand how to navigate this. also, republicans are just typically there and maybe it's because they're slightly more individually minded. the democrats, maybe just because democrats are more collect the best. and you can take that as an

insult or a complement, depending on how you take it. but you know, they work lock step. they have an agenda, they stick to it and they know how to motivate their base. and i don't think that the republicans have any understanding of that. right, so very interesting. well, and then go into jesse from a democrat standpoint, do you feel like that they are the democrats have not given up hope on a federal law that will make abortion legal across the states. or they've more focused on individual states, small pieces of the pie instead of going for the whole pizza. well, i think that there are collective efforts to bring this back to a federal conversation. you know, according to the center for reproductive rights, over the past 30 years, more than 60 countries have liberalize abortion was united states is one of the for progressive um, more industrialized nations that have rolled back. and so we're really trying to

get back into where the movement is going, according to the green wave, which is a collective among a latin american countries that are moving for more liberalized and progressive abortion laws. this is not just a single issue um where you're looking to sort as get this can tigers conversation around angry women, people are recognizing more and more that abortion is health care. that health care is connected to the economy and it's connected to the progression of a nation if you want people to be healthy. and well, we have to make sure that people have a right to say what they want with their bodies. and you know, i agree with the earlier comments, this is also a very gendered issue in terms of, you know, men saying who they want to, you know, be in a family with, we have to and i think with the, with the progress of our eligibility to

a community we're really progressing in terms of what we understand families to be . we have to be moving forward not backwards in terms of who women are cool. women will be in this world and how we are very centered in the per, in the progress of our nation. this nation is built on the backs of labor and, and women are very much at the center poor women. indigenous women are very much at the center of labor in this nation. and so all of these issues are deeply connected around the progress of a nation wide rather than rolling back people's rights. we should be moving forward, expanding the rights of people to live the lives that they need and that they want to. but i'm not just not real women's. i want to bring it as a press. well, i want to bring the thought into, and on this part because you're, you're right, they kind of all do come together, except you talk about the economy. angela knew you said that's one of that still on

the, for, for most women's minds. guess is it not insulting to women to say, well, they're just going to go vote democrat, because the democrats are the ones fighting for reproductive rights. so the part of the reproductive rights, when most polls will show that they believe republicans handle the economy better. so is it not due ela so insulted to a stack that you're going to say as a woman, you're going to vote democrat just because they're pushing one single issue. so i'm not pro choice. well, i'm not saying you, but i'm saying that's what i hear it. does that insulting to anita or a lot of other women in the country? there are so many women who don't believe that abortion is the right thing to do. i mean, the libertarian party, we just try not to touch this at the national level, but there are a lot of women who are still very much pro life. and they believe in individual rights. and they don't believe that abortion and health care are the same thing. and primarily they're concerned with the children that they already have. and their concern was putting food on the table and they're going to vote for the parties that they believe is gonna deliver the best economic package for them. and that

doesn't necessarily mean that they won't government health care, it means that they want to see gas prices drop. they want to see fuel prices, you know, be negotiated, that are, they want to see the tracking bands left and they just, they don't really care about how it's done. they just want to see things more affordable. and i think that for, for the ladies in this conversation here, like we are, we are so involved in politics. you know, we see every little thing that happens. we're paying attention to the nuance of the details, but there are millions of women out there and men to certainly who they don't care . they just want to know what happens at the end of the day. the bottom one is the country more affordable place to live. can i buy more christmas presents for my children? yes, now, and that's how they load. well, that's interesting. we ended up because there is a lot of money that's also involved. and it's, you know, the, the national, it looks like the pro abortion rights group spent about a $150000000.00 on the mid term $9000000.00 on the state, valid initiatives that they were victorious and in ohio, in virginia dessie,

could this just be more about an effective messaging on a call to action, the democrats are able to mobilize and use this as their mobilize or the necessarily, the other issues that republicans are failing to mobilize their based on, you know, i think both parties can be effective in single issues with their voters, i think when republicans want to scare folks into believing that undocumented people are coming here to ruin our country. i think what fear mongering is involved. republicans do a very good job. i think in terms of abortion and rallying and motivating people to recognize that this is a human rights issue. i think democrats do pretty well on that too. but i would agree with the earlier comment. i think that a lot of people in this nation, i don't care how the sausages need. they want, they want a better life, and they don't recognize or care really about how all of those mechanics work. but

i do believe that at the end of the day, if we, if, if democrats and progresses are looking to do really good messaging, they're going to recognize how to connect these issues to how people live their everyday lives. if people recognize that abortion is connected to health care, which it is and, and the end on that a little bit for me, how do you think that abortion is connected to the health care of everyone? not just necessarily women of childbearing age, it is connected to everyone because health care is connected to reproductive, reproductive care and maternal care. and that's absolutely important to women's care. so all of those things are connected. uh, having a reproductive choice, having birth control, making sure that you have that. um, in most cases when you have a insurance, you get a g y n as well as

a general practitioner doctor. and so women's health care is, is very connected to general health care. and so when we put it this way, when you ameliorate the lives of people who are the most marginalized, then everybody wins. everybody wins when you improve health care for women? men do well, very good. they do, they do very well. children's do to do well and, and people in general will get more of the expansive and holistic care that's necessary when you begin to recognize how attached women's reproductive rights are to health care. angela, we only have about 2 minutes left, especially coming from the libertarian perspective. do you agree with that, that when you attach things like birth control, does that help everyone and is it right to attach birth control to abortion? due to, to putting the 2 in the same category? are they to separate the subjects that is totally separate to me? health care for me is about human flourishing. and and um, you know,

especially the regulation and allowing people to get the access they need to things that are gonna improve and, and help their lives. you know, to me, in portion is the ending of a life. and so i don't include that in health care and i recognize that and you know, 3 percent or less of circumstances. it's necessary to save the life of the mother. but the rest of the time, i do not agree that that, that is any way attached to help. i definitely want people to have access to good health care though, and i hope that our government will use restrictions and regulatory burdens that benefit insurance companies over individuals. you know, i'd like everybody to have affordable health care well, and i don't include that. and of course as well and on the card will turn libertarian national committee and dessie robinson health professional do law. and me to come to thank you so much for having this. very simple, very important discussion today. when it comes to abortion rights, the parties do not look at it based on the actual act of abortion is justification or even the need. they're not doing this to help make a woman's life better or help a woman or

a desperate situation could have. so the conversation would, would be more about what medically is needed to help support endangered pregnancies or what type of system needs to be in place to support a mother adequately after the baby is born. the conversation would be also focused on what could be done to help prevent a woman from being put in the situation in the 1st place, which would also involve a very strong conversation about preventing domestic violence and crime. the sad part is both parties do not see the issue of abortion in personal terms, rather is just a tool to accomplish their ultimate goal of gaining power. the sky, you know, hughes, thank you for watching. the 360, the, the, [000:00:00;00]

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