that well that's head to india now. 1 into officials have been holding a full round of 2 should, pharmacy won't need daily to guarantee a minimum support price for the crops industry. workers have been protesting for weeks and saying that per pay to start a new launch on wednesday. unless the loans a match well let's get the details of my india correspondent runjun shelmet runjun. thanks for joining us up can you just to construe the scale and also the significance of this route which has been going on for weeks to let me point out for is that off to the 4th round of talks between the government of india and the final union, the farmers have now,

so don't hold that focused smotts to date to at least 21st of march. they say that they want to examine the want to study what the government of india has proposed. that the amount of the farmers had a solid list of wells demands for the government of india, which included a lead to m. s. b minimum support price for $1.00 crop. a debt we will mention for farm is about the age of 60. also taking back of cases that were slacked on formulas during previous full dress, wasn't government of india. interesting because donna's they have come up with the come to a proposal. the say, look, let's focus more on diversification. let's also focus on contract from me. the government of india is also agreed on providing the legal m a c, or 5 groups for 5 years. this will include policies, me is often because for the exports of saying that this is

a news to watch bill farmers have off for now. but of course, almost to see that this proposal, we need to discuss it with our farm where you news affordable and also ex thoughts as see whether or not it's viable or not. you asked me about the significance, the significance of huge in terms of what the farmers have been asking for. because this is, this has been a constant demands. this has been a constant cry over the phone. most of the countries, the farm was not just with the more the government but with consecutive governments . they've been asking a for what they think we bring them back to life all for the families which for now the thing is not exist. it also is very, very significant, politically, why? because india is due for the agenda election in the next few months. and the farm was also comprised of a major war check. the will,

the government wants to buy the tow domain, which is why it's important for them also to please the follows. also the 4th round of talks between the government of india and the farmers which went on to be it last night. in fact, to over midnight in another state of when you off the government even go see the book talks went fine, the tops the positive. we've come up with all of the books and you've shown proposal for the family. and the goal now is in the family support presume on 3, we had a very positive and long discussion with the representative of farmers. we've spoken to very good environment and discussed new ideas which are in the interest of the farmers. the farmer union representatives have given some positive suggestions which will benefit the farmers of when jobs, arianna, as well as the farmers economy and consumers of the country. so there will be some sticking points to left. for example,

the loan reward or the patient portal we found was also doing away with the cases that we remember slapped on the fall and listened. the previous struck us and i say previous protest, this is the latest one which took place in 2020. it went on through 2021 when the palm of head down on the borders of betty. this in fact had become the largest floor test in the world history. now of course, all eyes on what the family union see on the government's proposal will be, will take about a couple of days to examine it. but of course it's a developing story which is a full, a song and taking place in the not the fault of the country. we will keep a track on the starting budget. and thanks very much, that's all tease into corresponding function sharma. well, we'll be back some more. i was a news at the top of the next. so i do hope you enjoyed this by the

hello and welcome to prospect borns on peter lavelle. here we discussed some real news. the death of alexi, nev only in prison, predictably and quickly became politicized in the west of all means. death is a cynical political tool. also, the annual security conference in munich was once an important intellectual venue. now it's a worthless talk shop and i'm joined by my usual guest, george, send me away in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and america. we have martin jay, he is an award winning journalist, a german cross that goes in effect. that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. let's go start out with george in budapest, um the dentist of uh mr. nevada. and they had such an early age in prison. first of all, i want to make sure to, with my guess here in with our audience, no person in cost incarcerated should die in prison, full stop. ok,

full stop. ok. but predictably, the, the so called leader of the russian opposition, i don't want to be clear with everyone. that's how the west labeled mister and of all me. and that's not how he is seen, or was seen in russia. okay. and so i'm trying to set this up george here. here's what joe biden had to say, you know, take it for what it's worth of us present, joe biden. acknowledge that. what while, well, we don't know exactly what happened. there is no doubt that the death of nevada only was a consequence of something putting in his stubs did. so it's a i don't know what he's talking about. we don't know, but we, we know um this is the typical messaging we get also for what it's worth, the vice president harris said russia it is responsible, george. you know we've covered mr. nevada and these checkered history a lot in the past. i think it's regrettable. like i said,

don't say the 2nd time. no person should die in prison. george. that's exactly right. it's very interesting that within hours actually within minutes of the announcements of his death, everyone he already knew who was responsible. um north stream, 18 months ago. we still don't know just as successfully done the whole the investigation. we don't know, but he, i won't even know is he out of the boots and did it was interesting. um is that from that very same day of the amount. so that is uh this uh and the people wailing and solving and uh, you know, biting the novels of grief over the loss of the leader of the russian opposition. and the dog chrome was hit with a $355000000.00 fine. um with the interest is going to be

probably close to around $460000000.00. now. um this was treated with much relief joy. i believe i'm on much of a media of the same people who we think over the phone. it is a case belief driven by political agenda. it's never been done against anybody else and it's an up school that has never been used in this way. and no one way because this the, that's the here, the leader of the opposition, the one of the, one of the video, much of this, of the liberal caucus sent to the test is being persecuted and is basically to try to be, be forced into bankruptcy. that's before we get on to all the, the full criminal cases of being up to see what the gains are for the for jurisdiction. not one of them as ever been done against the former president. no one has ever, this has been in each case. it's a complete extrapolation of,

of the law is, you know, that's a, you know, the tailoring it in order to go off the real political opinion. and this is really the problem with know how the and the west that the west seems to be completely blind to how it treats its opposition. probably you know, what the, those are the opponents that issue that throws into prison. there are still people in prison in guantanamo bay for, for more than 20 years was never done on trial, special or no, no one talks about that. but the still. ringback there and then we got to be believed in washington dc, who protested as is the right under the 1st amendment. they protested that the uh, the, the certification of the election. they're still in prison and i'm many of it happens . i haven't even had a health trial for them in and it was more likely to be sent as the grotesque task. and it was, it just simply say, navarro only was such as the 19 years of ridiculous to that still lesson then. um what some of the, the proud boys was sentenced to. well also martin,

we had the death of gonzalo lira. i mean with that, but there was no outcry in the west there. you know, you know, martin, the again, you know, when we get a story like this. so obviously it was um, it will go crowd funding for ukraine and of all of the sudden death at the hands of whoever is a justification to fund the ukraine conflict. this is how they connected, but i want to remind our viewers here. the only was a very, or had a very checkered career politically in russia, it was mostly associated with the right wing nationalist for, for the 20 years that he was in, involved in agitation, i would put it that way. that's, that's uh, forgotten there. youtube videos where he refers to migrants as cockroaches. okay. or a on my bed workers is a, a tooth decay in russian society. and then he played this kind of reformer, anti corruption role and he with himself was convicted of, of,

of corruption. george, i already points on, i want to be very clear, the extremism thing kind of mystifies me, but that's a part of the law that can be easily interpreted in the way you want, but then they have all need that is being harold in the west is not the only the people know when russia yeah, but also i think the only in the west is i think we should make it very clear that perhaps a lot of his demise above the reason why ends up in prison was because of the west and methylated because of him getting so close to the americans and progress into europeans. what i mean there is that there's a film circulating. i don't know if it's even more of him talking about $20000000.00. it needs to fundamental position in the campaign, in the nose, from the a really dumbing point, a real black spot on his career that he was going to image that was not knowing in rush. it was surprised by that. ok, i mean that, that, that just

a certified in the minds of most people that he is just a tool of the west. keep going. yeah. when i put the thing us that i think we shouldn't be surprised, but that me shouldn't be surprised that he's going to continue to be as to what others are west as his wife will be. you know, i'm not joe, as touchstone, the point that there seems to be this to turn this environment with a you need is to unaware, or just don't want to see how the rest is out of control machine going on in many western european countries, particularly button while we are losing our freedoms, we are losing our democratic principles. we are losing our liberties. you know, 20 years ago, we would probably put on page 3 of the some of the times, a big piece about. so in showing that how protest is rest to, or he's in general, is to film protest as a risk that is happening today in great bras. and we are arresting justice please of bundling into the back of the police vans quite aggressively. jealousy pulled out a small phones and just recalled what we called, b roll,

just some basic footage, you know? because what are they afraid of where, you know, there is this mentality now. and in lot of these countries, the police represent the front line of gulf ultra product control and the anything to confront stuff. anything that may shakes this institution has to be dealt with quite, you know, in the most abrupt as way. and i think we'd win. we've lost touch of that and so let me a little bit with this this, you know, there's just the political em correct. so it makes the news. i think we can expect a world leaders we use, but us live on the land. oh my god, i almost wanted to vomit when she talked about off how to use on values. you know, i mean foot, say well, you talking about women, your values or your values. um, just sit and blame. watching julia assigned the british prison, you know, and you may have some goals, are there before, you know, for all your values, just too slow. so another 500 children today and gaza, you know, i mean, look good. say this just well, you know, you know martin's, you know,

throw it up there at the george i, i think i've figured it out. you can have values when you're an elected official. what are you like to see? i, i think so. it's like, it's always bizarre. what watching her as if she's a political lead to just simply, i'm elected the but the that is the model is actually the right about the issue of values. she's also advise, because stolen by the nato secretary general also lost the thought about it. we, we, we have values, they don't. and the key thing is that, um, they never get challenged on this. i never get, uh, a mosque about these uh, you know, the, the, the, the so called values and the guy so julian assigned is absolutely front incentive. how do you justify keeping in prison us? no one has not been in prison for 5 years. who has not been convicted of anything. just easy has been convicted of nothing in in the u. k. and he's being held for 5

years in a high security, a prison, and that you know, that nope, no one really ever awesome these questions. and if should anyone, even danes will ask the question, they would be immediately laid out by security. and, you know, as i saw her, these are some terrible suggest a person who doesn't really know how to behave in a proper a social setting. and so this is, this is really the, the point with the, uh, the, you know, the nato. and the land is that they simply convinced that if they, the russians or chinese other ones would be evil. this is what they do to their political opponents. and when, and you know, when you point out to them what, you know, hey what he, what, what are you doing here? here are the political opponents here with people being thrown into prison here. people just being kept the year off the air and present. um, you know, the best sense that i, i, they, they threw out a rumble the best to say what was just what about as of where it was just booted talking points. and again, we, you know,

it's true if we go back to the january of the 6 there's, you know, thousands of people have been incarcerated, send to send, send to links, they present to us. and again, for longer terms then uh, you know, not enough on it and still they get to it, but we have values what all these values, where are these bad? well, you know, it's interesting martin is that, um again we, we see a case where the someone's death is quite useful for the powers that be because this is a, you know, we're going to talk about the, the munich security conference and the 2nd half of the program, but this is one of the highlights of the security conference in munich is that uh, you know, we have a, a supportive is rail support of a ukraine and another battering ram against russia. this time it's live only, it's, it's, it's very useful for these people. it's incredibly useful and you know, in the union we should always remember, it's not a democratic body, it's a,

it's an orthopedic body. it's a sort of the antithesis of democracy on the national state level. you know, so it was designed by design. it was great instead of the, it could rust through some policies that were never got through with the democratic way. and, you know, and there was this belief settled by the french leads at that time to the end of the war in the fifty's. this was a way to develop and to move forward unnoticed and sort of bypass the democratic stuff that we've just been waiting. and going way, you know, and people are also going to the delay and sort of get back to them. but, you know, they can take they and even host at all, those federalist and brussels, you know, milk in the gravy train. you know, i'm paying that drum, you know, they're all coming out now with this same own commitment which we hear again and again the last few days. you know, and it's been repeated to just to, in the last couple of days, you know, that your needs to be bigger. it needs to have more money for defense. you know, and this, this, this, this uh, unfortunate billing that will have to jump in here. we have to go to

a break that all be through nato, not the european union gentlemen. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the welcome to prospect over enzyme. peter will bill revenge. we're discussing some real is george, i want to go to, you know, i said in the 1st part of the program and we will discuss the munich security conference. they used to be an inverse thing venue. i mean, i would follow what you would follow and we would, it would sometimes would be some very interesting guess. vladimir putin made a very historic one many years ago, which foretold what would happen in ukraine. it is happened, not that i'm say he could predict the future, but you can connect the dots of if you, there's a certain thought process that goes forward for and um, without any kind of restraint, we're going to have a comp like we have that now. but, you know, the munich conference now is just, it's very jingle istic. it's, it seems extremely controlled. so they don't,

they don't talk about security. this is what irritates me so much. the issue of security is never mentioned. you know, when you look at the, the, the, the big names, you know, mr. zalinski was there, we have the ball and his wife is there, very orchestrated here and they're not talking about the security situation in europe now. they're looking to bolster a failing regime and cube to batter against russia. again, luminaries in munich, presumably, experts in security, kamala harris is there, another experts that they, they don't call for a ceasefire in 1000 to you, you would say, but these are weights would have enough, you know, clout it and, and, and influence the say, well, we've talked about security here and you know, the security of the middle east, what we shouldn't have ceased, they can't even get there. they talk about everything. it seems like, except for security, george, today us the right the, the, the,

what they mean by security is security for themselves. they don't have any executive by security for anyone else because they say they did take that seriously global security and then they would invite and leave this all over the world and ask them, well what the security means to you mean that yeah, they go to um, you know, and those career what the security me from those career, what does security mean for iran? um and they would get surprising answers. and so that was, that's why they would prefer, say, well, secure to our secure. that's all that really matches. but what's interesting, and that's really highlights like the problem that nato isn't about protection, it is a protection racket. and the apple, they literally only thing that that's on the mines is how do we keep was going for as long as possible. so that at this means it nearly secure the conference,

the anguish they had was from my come back and this, this is the 9 that trump will come back. now, you know, they like it. you know, they can go back and do the trunk, is what you're saying. we're relatively peaceful literally. oh, that was, it was was, it wasn't anything as bad as what we have today. but this will be a nightmare. the truck might bring was doing and it might, you know, he might, well, he might know of, i mean, he also sent lethal weapons to ukraine. so we don't know, but it's closing them night mess. you might come back and they might just bring was to an end. and that's, that's just terrible. and that's why in the, at munich they, they, they try to, as a badge of the republicans look, look on the volley. it's the wrong that you have to sign off on this uh $60000000000.00 where you credit even though what's the connection between the 2 of us on this list of tells you got into this get that money in. and so that's, that's the thrust of this conference. they just rating the republicans would be

sufficient eagerness to throw more money into that slow the unit. it would seem to be sure that's kind of a form of election meddling from an outside of force, but i don't know if the discount that 100 out there, you know, market a georgia is. right. i mean, they only want to talk about their security, but i feel a little bit further, a little bit more new in the security of their class and of their id ology. okay. the security of the gemini, they were, it will be continued uninterrupted. and if not expand, this is what this is all about. the indivisibility of security is not in their lexicon. any longer, martin? yeah, i thought it was just basically a very wrong lower slide press conference. you know, it was really what about and then chose that's the right above the point of security rocket rather than this is the increasing real defense strategy and what ways people talking about. they will read that to try and keep the old school going and keep the old messages of life and keeping everything in checks and making sure that everybody was on message. but the interesting thing from

a john his perspective is there weren't any for us that what was the agenda as soon as they have structured the event to such a way quite cleverly, actually that they invited top general is to se, share this of a 20 minute or 30 minute sessions. so that was a way of taking the books to say, well, we don't actually have to do live on scripted quick question from john this. that was, they didn't, you know, and you have these terribly, really contracts planted questions which made me almost a lot of the one point. i'm the the, the, the credit and pays the rent to rent a girl today who was tons of a cult members name someone will correct me. you know, he had his question, it was so thought that it was so low cost rates in the moment he done, you know, christian, i'm a pull. is that okay with us enough to i know hit me. well, that's all i mean. so thanks very much. so i guess there's, there's no media instruction the tool and i think nowadays that that but they didn't want a buffet to get cold. jordan, i think that's probably what it was like i, i, i'm sure the menus of these things are really quite impressive. okay. but i mean, martin brings up a really good point in that way. we see it and it's interesting that we know we've

kind of thrown in like a january 6th. we have in the fall and the we have the guns i will live. are we in a one time will be a power doesn't want to be interrogated, do they, they don't want to be challenged. it's getting worse and worse and plus is something that martin can it has to here is a media journalist there on the side of power that they're, they're there, they praetorian guard george, exactly on the, on the side of power. and that's why they continually so you know, like attack dogs, a leash against anyone or told who challenges it. so like carlos and entered the that's a very good example. the goal of the attacks against the top across on the he had the temerity to go to moscow to interview any important will lead to but he didn't ask hard questions now these years never even realize oscar talk quest, if you, if you where when was the last time any journalist

went into uh, the oval office, an awesome bind. and um, what the hell are you doing and you pray and how is this in any way benefiting the americans with benefit and ukrainians, benefiting anybody or asking why is that the pursuing julia massage. i mean, is this a, you know, get these a general is why why you want to put him away the presence of the rest of his life, they never do that. it is always kind of a phoning like, well what do you think we're going to do about this threat to democracy by donald trump? i'm is the president. and is that that's the level of the questions you get to so so then to do criticized a topic, also for softball questions. nobody's he will ever do. and again, just just go to an a, t. m a and a nato press conference. and with the questions, it always is nato doing enough to come to russia. what's down to do?

i do or you have is media class. i mean, i've been there and i've been shouldn't be called media, but that they're the ones that are more hot. they're always more hawkish. there's a, you know, with more retaliation, more retaliation. you know, we, it's, it's very into the, are you watch the sunday shows in the united states and in the get so kind of a perverse the defensiveness that the buy ministration has. like you're not doing enough, you know, and i mean, when we look back was they were going down to the pots of a 3rd world war. and it's a very artificial conversation that the powers that be and the media have, which of course none of these people in me have ever been on a battlefield. most likely martin go you have yeah, i haven't been on a few in my career, but the point i think that george is making is it is, is let me follow up. i think come it's know that tucker carlson of tough questions . it's i don't think that the questions were that tough. they were just really the kind of questions the my journalist in terms of what university would put together

on the back on them like they've been doing what lead to they were just basically wrote a mentally normal questions that you know, anybody would come up with and we should be also yourselves why, why does somebody like to come have to ask those questions in the 1st place and the answers because nobody else is of the tools. and then what's happening in my career is i've seen the transition of, you know, general is moving slowly over towards the political model to line themselves with the establishment with the intelligence services and everything. and robin be, you know, the recalcitrant sort of angry, young man, strong stones, you know, at establish what we, what was, was the case in britain, in the sixty's since nature's that we, we distinguish those cells 5 a as the establishment. i guess the 1st the gym is now with the same rule of pro establishment. we're all part of, you know, the conspiracy. and let's get back to, you know, to this, this conference is ridiculous conference. you know, this really was an opponent example. you know, of the late spring turn deaf and not really understanding what's going on if they

can, they can actually stink, or they can pull a little over our eyes and come up with this mold. since i've come up with these, these constant messages, you know, of that nature has to be bigger. you know, defense funding has to go up. you know, we have to prepare ourselves. you know what, some of the lynn came up with that and i, she wasn't really challenged. nobody said, well why? you know, um, what, where, where's this whole going? where's so hedging? you know, but i think the confidence itself, um, you know, for me it was known events and even though you know it's 50, well they just turned upset. but look at their media coverage was probably anything that was sold because they didn't, they don't really have much to say. i mean, the big problem is we've got a problem in the world comp resolve. so we need to feet and lie and, and, and come up with these disorders, plans to protect people. i, us, the, so they still have that power. there's still the jobs in stoughton, but, and i'm sure it's, my goal is to speak english, breaking news. he actually speaks english. i thought he was off with the can string together even a sentence, a gentleman,

but apparently the george started ocean. sergeant schultz is a half way who couldn't speak english. so what george? yeah, it's i, i'm not very impressed by this. sergeant schultz, most gentleman speak a pretty good english and honest, but it's a, it's a read. it goes to this list, the salient issue here, which is this, the munich secure of the conference. it is now, you know, the thrust of it is how much more money can we get to ukraine? that's going to give you the honor to thousands of that. you want to go kill in other a few 100000 with a view to what, what, what are you trying to achieve here? you know, there's a, you got yourself into this rule for no reason until your brain is not a member of maybe or another member the you, there was no reason for you to get it or why. what is the reason what it was? the explanation were and again this is what have journalist shouldn't be doing that job, which is the challenges that what is the reason for this?

and then i'll doing it and i'll go see what needs to be brought up again. so that's, that's another thing you would just say at what point you're going to just say uh in all 3 of those, just going just keep repeating it. you know, leave is on be like way, october, the 7th, october the 7th. but this is all they do. so what is any of this got to do with security? let's just the boys was going oh and it started another one in, in, in the, i guess the who was using the receipt. right. you know, and then this is the alliance, you know, the somehow i a, yeah they, oh it's, it's, it's the, it's the munich and security conference. that's essentially what it is. great, more in security and then to get more budgetary funds to, to keep these more is going. gentleman, that's all the time we have one, i think my guess america cash and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz, the next time. remember across the rules, the russian armed forces evacuate.