the merit test, we have martin j. he is an award winning journalist by german cross. that goes in effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. let's go start out with george in budapest. i'm the denise of uh, mr. nevada, and they had such an early age in prison. first of all, i want to make sure to with my guess here in with our audience that no person in cost incarcerated should die in prison, full stop. ok, full stop. ok. but predictably, the so called leader of the russian opposition. i don't want to be clear with everyone. that's how the west labeled mr. nevada and me. and that's not how he is seen or was seen in russia. okay. and so i'm trying to set this up george here. here's what joe biden had to say, you know, take it for what it's worth of us present, joe biden. acknowledge that. what wild quote we don't know exactly what happened. there is no doubt that the death of nevada only was a consequence of something putin and his thugs did. so it's a,

i don't know what he's talking about. we don't know, but we, we know um this is the typical messaging we get also for what it's worth, the vice president harris said russia is responsible, george. you know, we've covered this during the volume these checkered history a lot in the past. i think it's regrettable, like i said, don't say the 2nd time. no person should die in prison, george. and that's exactly right. it's very interesting that within our actually within minutes of the announcements of is this everyone who already knew who was responsible for north stream 18 months ago. we still don't know just as successfully done the whole the investigation. we don't know that he are going to get nosy out of the boots and did it was interesting. is that from that very same day of the amount. so that is, uh this uh and the people wailing and solving and uh, you know,

biting the novels of other grief over the loss of the leader of the russian opposition. i don't from was hit with a 355000000 dollar fine. um with interest is going to be probably close to around $460000000.00 now. um this was treated with much relief joy. i believe i'm on much of the media, the same people who are weeping over the phone. there is a case literally driven by political agenda. it's never been done against anybody else, and it's an obscure little that has never been used in this way. and no one way because that's the, that's the here, the leader of the opposition. the one of the, one of the video, much of this, of the liberal caucus sent it to the test is being persecuted and is

basically to try to be, be forced into bankruptcy. that's before we get onto all the, the full criminal cases of, of being up to see what they gains and pull different jurisdiction. not one of them has ever been done against the former president. no one is ever, this is both in each case. it's a complete extrapolation of, of the law moves in, you know, that's a, you know, the tailoring it in order to go after a political event of. so this is really the problem with no, all the and the west that the west seems to be completely blind to how it treats its opposition. probably going to what the, the, the, the opponents, that is that throws into prison. there are still people in prison in guantanamo bay for more than 20 years. we've never gone on trial, especially there. you know, no one talks about that, but the still there. then we go, the people in washington, d. c, who protested as is the right under the 1st amendment, they protested that the, the certification of the election,

they're still in prison and i'm many, half of the haven't even had a have trial for them. well in. and that was what i would like to be sent as the grotesque task. and of course, you just simply say no for only such as the 19 years are ridiculous to that still lesson then um what some of the the proud boys was sentenced to. well, also martin, we had the death of gonzalo lira, i mean with that, but there was no outcry in the west there. you know, you know, martin, the again, you know, when we get a story like this. so obviously it was um, it will go crowd funding for ukraine and of all of the sudden death at the hands of whoever is a justification to fund the ukraine conflict. so this is how they connected. but i want to remind our viewers here and of only was a very, or had a very checkered career politically. in russia, it was mostly associated with the right way nationalist for, for the 20 years that he was in, involved in agitation. i would put it that way,

but that's, that's uh, forgotten there. youtube videos where he refers to migrants. has cockroaches. okay . or migrant workers is a, a tooth decay in russian society. and then he played this kind of reformer, anti corruption, a role and he with himself was convicted of, of, of corruption. george already points on, i want to be very clear that extremism thing kind of mystifies me. but that's a part of the law that can be easily interpreted in the way you want, but the never only that is being harold in the west is not in the, in the volume either people know when russia yeah. but also i think the only in the west is i think we should make it very clear that perhaps a lot of his demise above the reason why ends up in prison was because of the west and methylated because of him getting so close to the americans and progress in the european so, i mean there is that there's a film circulating,

i don't know if it's more of him talking about $20000000.00. it needs to fund that opposition campaign. yet let me know. don't be a really dumb important rule. blacks vote on his career that he was gonna make. that was not no one in rush. it was surprised by that. okay. i mean that, that that's just a certified in the minds of most people that he's just a tool of the west. keep going. yeah. putting us, but i think we shouldn't be surprised with that. we shouldn't be surprised that he's going to continue to be at a little bit as a west, as his wife will be. you know, i'm not jo, us touchstone. the point to the seems to be this turned us environment with a you leaders to unaware or just don't want to see how well there is this out of control machine going on in many western european countries, particularly for some while we are losing freedoms. we are losing our democratic principles, we are losing our liberties. you know, 20 years ago, we would probably put on page 3 of the, some of the times,

a big piece about in showing that how protest is risk or even genders to film protest as a risk. that is happening today in great britain. we are arresting john bas, please. um, bundling into the back of the police vans clay aggressively jealous. you pull the small phones and just recall what we can be real, just some basic footage now because what are they afraid of where, you know, there is this mentality now and of these countries, the police represent the front line of gulf ultra credit control and the anything to confront stuff, anything that may shakes this institution has to be dealt with quite, you know, in the most abrupt his way. and i think we'd, when we've lost touches. uh and so let me a little bit with this this, you know this, this is the political, i'm correct. so it makes the news. i think we can expect a world leaders. we expect us to live on the land. oh my god, i almost wanted to vomit. when she talked about all values on values, who i mean?

so if say what are you talking about? women, your values are your values um, just in plain watching julia assigned the british prison. you know, and you met some goals are there before we know for all your values, just too slow. so another 500 children today and gaza, you know, i mean, look good saying this just well, you know, you know, martin's, you know, throw it up there to george i, i think i've figured it out. you can have values when you're an elected official. what do you like to see? i, i think so it's a, it's always bizarre. what, watching as if she's a, a political lead to just simply on the like the, the that but the that is the model is absolutely right about the issue of values. she talks a lot of advice because sold in the nato secretary general also loves to talk about it. we, we, we have values, they don't. and the key thing is that, um, they never get challenged on this. they never get, uh, a ask about these uh, you know, the, the, the,

the so called values and the guy so julian assigned is absolutely front incentive. how do you justify keeping in prison? uh, someone is not being in prison. 5 years was not being convicted or anything, just easy is being convicted of nothing in, in the u. k. um and he's being held for 5 years in a high security, a prison. and you know, let me know literally have awesome these questions. and if should anyone, even danes will ask the question, they would be immediately laid out by security as this are, these are some terrible suggest a person who doesn't really know how to behave in the proper a social setting. and so this is, this is related to the, the point, the with the, the, you know, the nato and the land is that they simply convinced that it's because they, the russians were chinese, other ones with the evil. this is what they do to the political opponents and when,

and you know, when you point out to them what, you know, pay what he, what, what are you doing here? here are the political opponents. here are people being thrown into prison here. people just being kept the year off the air in prism um you know, the best as i, i the, they throw you out wrong. well, the best to say, well, that's just what about as of words, is just built in talking points. and again, you know, it's true if we go back to the january, the 6th there's, you know, thousands of people had been incarcerated, send to send, send 2 legs, they present to us. and again, for longer terms then uh, you know, not enough on it. and still they get to it with what we have values, what all these values, where are these bad? well, you know, it's interesting, martin, is it, um again we see a case where someone's death is quite useful for the powers that be because this is a, you know, we're going to talk about the, the munich and security conference in the 2nd half of the program but um, this is one of the highlights of the security conference in munich is that, uh,

you know, we have a, a supportive is rail support of, of ukraine and another battering ram against russia in this time it's in the volume it's, it's, it's very useful for these people, it's incredibly useful and you know, in the here in union we should always remember, it's not a democratic, but it's a, it's an also kind of body as a sort of the antithesis of democracy on the national state level. united site was designed by design, it was created so the, it could run through some policies that were never got through with the democratic way. and, you know, and there was this belief certainly by the french leads at that time to the end of the war in the fifty's. this was a way to develop and to move forward and asked to sort of bypass the level of the democratic stuff that we've just been in the way and go in way, you know, and people are also going to the land. so to get back to them, but you know, they take, they, i'm diva hosted all those federalists and brussels, you know, milk in the gravy train. you know, i'm thinking that drum, you know,

they're all coming out now with this same argument which we here again and again the last few days. you know, an, it's been repeated to just to, in the last couple of days, you know, that your needs to be bigger. it needs to have more money for defense. you know, and this, this, this, this uh, unfortunate deal to that well, have to jump in here. we have to go to a break that all be through nato, not the european union gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the, [000:00:00;00] the

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i would follow what you would follow and we would, it would sometimes would be some very interesting guess. vladimir putin made a very historic one many years ago, which foretold what would happen in ukraine. it is happened um uh, not that i'm say he can predict the future, but you can connect doubts of view. there's a certain thought process that goes forward for that. um, without any kind of restraint, we're going to have a conflict. we have that now, but you know, the minute conference now is just, it's very jingle with stick. um it's, it seems extremely controlled and they don't, they don't talk about security. this is what irritates be so much. the issue of security is never mentioned. you know, when you look at the, the, the, the big names, you know, mister zalinski was there, we have the volume, his wife is there, very orchestrated here. and they're not talking about the security situation in europe now. they're looking to bolster

a failing regime in cube to batter against russia. again, luminaries in munich, presumably, experts in security, kamala harris is there another expert that they, they don't call for a ceasefire? in 1000 to you? you would say that these a leads would have enough, you know, clout it and, and, and influence the say, well, we've talked about security here and you know, the security of the middle east, what we shouldn't have ceased. they can't even get there. they talk about everything, it seems like, except for security george, today us it, right the, the, the, what they mean by security is security for themselves. they don't exactly buy security for anyone else because they say they did take that seriously global security and then they would invite and leave this alone with the well and ask them, well, what the security means to you mean that yeah, they go to um, you know, and those 3, what a security means on those career. what does security mean for iran?

um and they would get surprising answers. and so that's what, that's why they would prefer, say, well, secure to our secure. that's all that really matches. but what's interesting and, and that's really highlights the problem that nato isn't about protection. it is a protection racket. and the apple, they literally only thing that that's on the mines is how do we keep, was going for as long as possible. so that at this media immunity security conference, the anguish they had was from mike, come back this, this is the 9, the trunk will come back. now, you know, they like it. you know, they can go back and do the trunk. is what you're saying. we're relatively peaceful, literally. oh, that was, it was was, it wasn't anything as bad as what we have today, but this will be a nightmare. the truck might bring was doing in the night. you know, he might, well, you might know of. i mean, he also sent legal weapons to ukraine, so we don't know,

but it's closing them night mess. he might come back and he might just bring was to an end. and that's, that's just terrible. and that's why in the, at munich they, they, they try to, as a badge of the republicans look, look on the volley. it's the wrong that you have to sign off on this uh $60000000000.00 where you credit even though what's the connection between the 2 of us on this list of tells you you got, if you could get that money in. and so that's, that's the thrust of this conference. they just the rating, the republicans would be sufficient eagerness to throw more money into that slow the unit. it would seem to be dry. that's kind of a form of election meddling from an outside and worse. but i don't know disconsolate under it out there, you know, martin georgia is right. i mean, they only want to talk about their security, but i feel a little bit further a little bit more new in the security of their class and of their id. ology. okay, the security of the gemini, they were, it will be continued uninterrupted, if not expand,

but this is what this is all about. the indivisibility of security is not in their lexicon. any longer, martin, i thought it was just basically a very long, glorified press conference. you know, it was really worked out and it shows up see right above the point of security rocket rather than this is increasing a real defense strategy. you know, always people talking about. they will be there to try and keep the old school going and keep the old messages of life and keeping everything in checks and making sure that everybody was on message. but the interesting thing from a john this perspective is there weren't any for us that what was the agenda as soon as they have structured the event to such a way quite cleverly, actually that they invite to the top generalist to actually share this of a 20 minute or 30 minute sessions. so that was a way of taking the books to say, well, we don't actually have to do live on script a quick question from john as to which i didn't, you know, and you have these terribly, really contracts planted questions which made me almost a lot for one point,

i'm the, the, the, the credit and pays the rent that rent a girl today who was tons of the cult members name someone will correct me. you know, he had his question, it was so thought that it was so little constraints and the moment he done, you know, christian and the tools that okay with us enough to i know hit me well, that's all i mean. so thanks very much. so i guess there's no media instruction tool and i think nowadays that that but they didn't want to be afraid to get cold. george, i think that's probably what it was like i, i, i'm sure the menus of these things are really quite impressive. okay. but i mean martin brings up a really good point in the way we see it. and it's interesting that we know we've kind of thrown in like january 6, we're having the ball only. we have gonzalo leo, we in a one time will be a power doesn't want to be interrogated, do they, they don't want to be challenged. it's getting worse and worse and plus is something that martin can attest to. here is a media journalist. they're on the side of power. they're, they're there. they praetorian guard george that exactly on the,

on the side of power. and that's why they continually so you know, like attack dogs on a leash against anyone or told who challenges it. so like carlson entered the that's a very good example. the goal of the attacks against the top across on the he had the temerity to go to moscow to interview any important will lead to but he didn't ask hard questions now these years never do realize ask called quest. if you, if you do when, when was the last time any journalist went into the oval office? an awesome bind and um, what the hell are you doing and you pray and how is this in any way benefiting the americans with benefit and ukrainians, benefiting anybody or asking why is that the pursuing julia massage. i mean, is this just like it is a general is why why you want to put him away?

the presence of the rest of his life, they never do that is boys kind of a phoning like, well what do you think we're going to do about this threat to democracy by donald trump? i'm is the president. and is that that's the level of the questions you get to so so then to do criticized a topic, also for softball questions, because nobody's even ever the game. just just to go to an a, t. m a and a nato press conference. and with the questions it always is made to doing enough to come to russia what's you know to do or do you have is media class? i mean, i've been there and i've been, shouldn't be called media, but the, they're the ones that are more hot, they're always more hawkish. there's a, you know, with more retaliation, more retaliation. the, you know, we, a, it's, it's very into the, are you watch the sunday shows in the united states and in the, it's a kind of a perverse, the defensiveness, the be by ministration has like you're not doing enough. you know,

and i mean when we look back was they were going down to the path to the 3rd world war. and it's a very artificial conversation that the powers that be and the media have, which of course none of these people need have ever been on a battlefield. most likely martin go, do you have yeah, i haven't been on a few in my career, but the point i think that towards making is that is, is let me follow up. i think come, it's not that tucker carlson of tough questions. it's, i don't think it's the questions with that topic, which is really the kind of questions the my general has interns or university were put together on a back on them like they've been doing? well i believe that they were just basically rudimentary normal questions. the, you know, anybody would come up with and we should be asking ourselves why, why does somebody like to come have to ask those questions in the 1st place and the officers because nobody else is of the to. and then what's happening in my career is i've seen the transition of, you know, general is moving slowly over towards the political model to live themselves with

the establishment with the intelligence services and everything. and robin be, you know, the recalcitrant sort of angry, young man, strong stones, you know, at establish what we, what was, was the case in britain, in the $0.60 mates, is that we, we just things. so cells 5, a as established that i guess the 1st the gym is now with the same rules pro, establishment. we're all part of, you know, the conspiracy. and let's get back to, you know, to this, this conference, this ridiculous conference. you know, this really was an opponent example, you know, of the late spring turn deaf and not really understanding what's going on if they can, they can actually stink, or they can pull the will over our eyes and come up with this mold. since i've come up with these, these constant messages, you know, of that nature has to be bigger. you know, defense funding has to go up. you know, we have to prepare ourselves. you know what, some of the lynn came up with that and i, she wasn't really challenged. nobody said, well why? you know, um what, where, where's this whole going where it's so heading, you know, but i think the confidence of so i'm, you know,

for me it was known events. and even though you know it's 50 well latest and upset, but look at their media coverage, was probably anything better told because they didn't, they don't really have much to say. i mean, the big problem is we've got a problem in the world comp resolve. so we need to feet and lie and, and, and come up with these disorders, plans to protect people like civil delays. so they still have that power. there's still the jobs stilton but, and i'm sure it's michael soon. speaks english breaking news. he actually speaks english. i thought he was off with the come string together, even a sentence, a gentleman, but apparently the george short to the sergeant schultz is a half way who couldn't speak english. so what george? yes. yeah, it's, i, i'm not very impressed by it because the sergeant schultz. most gentleman speak a pretty good english and honest, but it's a, it's the so it goes to this list, the salient issue here, which is this, the munich secure of the conference. it is now, you know,

the thrust of it is how much more money can we get to ukraine? that's going to give me a half now, hundreds of thousands of that. do you want to go kill in other a few 100000 with a view to want what, what are you trying to achieve here? you know, there's a, you got yourself into this rule for no reason. that's all your credit is not a member of lady grant. another member of the you. there was no reason for you to get it or why. what is the reason what it was? the explanation was, and again, this is what it just shouldn't be doing that job, which is the challenge of is that what is the reason for this? and then i'll doing it and i'll go see what needs to be brought up again. so that's, that's another thing you would just say at what point you're going to just say uh in all 3 of those, just going just keep repeating it, you know, the and then is on be like way, october, the 7th, october the 7th. but this is all they do. so what is any of this got to do with security? let's just the boys was going oh and it started another one in, in, in, i guess the who was using the red sea. great. you know,

and then this is the alliance, you know, the somehow i, yeah they, oh it's, it's, it's the, it's the munich and security conference. that's essentially what it is great for insecurity. and then to get more budgetary funds to, to keep these more is going. gentleman, that's all the time we have one, i think my guess america cash and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz, the next time, remember, crossed up rules, the russian land a fast resources found less potential for civilization, this has been to the level of the view on the bushes, fixed shooting system countries, most exciting accomplishments with voice and to do with the pursuit can use this is where i'm located. pardon?

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