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operations using a special chemical belt, it provides for the destination of containers with pressik acid and ammonia during the advance of russian troops. it is assume that such tactics will significantly complicate the activities of offensive operations of the armed forces of the russian federation and provide key of with additional time to prepare defensive lines in the zap, rosie car call vin sumi regions. no rush did accuse the united states of not destroying this chemical weapons as both countries have previously agreed to do. so . moscow also accused washington of essentially delivering these weapons to ukraine, which as we've mentioned earlier, they're being used in the battle field. now on its side, russia did actually destroy its chemical weapons as and has fulfilled its obligations as previously promise. russian officials also laid out list of violations and non compliance by the united states, with the requirements to develop not leave full chemical weapons. now here you have
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it. ukraine is basically using a toxic substances on the ground that is with the help of the west, and specifically the united states as was stress would be information provided we on this, what's going on. here's the chief editor of the finished news outlets and the last he says that ukraine is using chemical weapons, while international on it says it's in a bind i. in all these cases they have to be reckoned they have to be discussed. they have to be documented but, but unfortunately we see from the us all on really to, to follow the really are for mechanical with friends. we would see, you know, clear section in the technical section in everywhere. and the seems like that the whole international bodies are got to buy and create as be given. free has to do what every once the security code, wickedness like be a logical workforce as well. they are 2 of super logical effect in a deep,
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deep uh they, they serve kind of a. ready extreme hybrid corporation width is when, when technical substances are used, they offer a possibility to deeply affect people's minds. been pierce, and that's what they are doing. unfortunately, they don't care about the cause of us all. so they saw the shields checkouts all websites, all the dot com for all of the lights is breaking news and updates. i will see you right back here to talk with you the hello and welcome to prospect borns on peter lavelle. here we just got some real news. the death of alexi, nev only in prison, predictably,
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and quickly became politicized in the west and of all names. death is a cynical political tool. also, the annual security conference in munich was once an important intellectual venue. now it's a worthless talk shop and i'm joined by my usual guess george, send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the guy goal, which can be found on youtube and locals and america as we have martin j. he is an award winning journalist by german prospect roles and effective means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's go start out with george in budapest. i'm the dennis of uh, mr. nevada. and they had such an early age in prison, personal i want to make sure to, with my guess here in with our audience that no person in cause incarcerated should die in prison, full stop. ok, full stop. ok. but predictably, the, the so called leader of the russian opposition, i don't want to be clear with everyone. that's how the west labeled mister and of all me. and that's not how he is seen,
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or was seen in russia. okay. and so i'm trying to set this up george here. here's what joe biden had to say, you know, take it for what it's worth of us present, joe biden. acknowledge that. what, while quote, we don't know exactly what happened. there is no doubt, but the death of nevada only was a consequence of something putting in his stubs did. so it's it, i don't know what he's talking about. we don't know, but we, we know um this is the typical messaging we get also for what it's worth. vice president harris said russia is responsible, george. you know, we've covered this during the volume these checkered history a lot in the past. i think it's regrettable, like i said on site, the 2nd time no person should die in prison, george. and that's exactly right. it's very interesting. does that sound within hours actually within minutes of the announcements of is this everyone who already knew who was responsible?
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um north stream, 18 months ago we still don't know just as successfully done or you know roll the investigation or what we don't know. but he, i don't even know is he out of pollutant did it was interesting um is that from that very same day of the amount. so that is uh this uh and the people wailing and solving and uh, you know, biting the novels of grief over the loss of the leader of the russian opposition. and the dog chrome was hit with a $355000000.00 fine. um and with the interest is gonna be probably close to around $460000000.00 now. um this was treated with much relief joy. i believe i'm on much of the media of the same people who are weeping over the phone. it is a case literally driven by elliptical agenda. it's never been done against anybody
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else, and it's an obscure little that has never been used in this way. and no one really cares the see it. that's the here leader of the opposition. the one of the, one of the video, much of this, of the liberal caucus sent it to the test is being persecuted and is basically to try to be, be forced into bankruptcy. if that's before we get onto all the, the full criminal cases of, of being up to see what the gains of pool different jurisdiction, not one of them ever been down against the former president. no one is ever, this is both in each case. it's a complete extrapolation of, of the law moves and, you know, that's a, you know, the tailoring it in order to go after a political event of so this is really the problem with no, all the and the west that the west seems to be completely blind to how it treats its opposition. probably you know what the, the, the, the opponents that is that throws into prison. there are still people in prison in
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guantanamo bay. also more than 20 years. we've never gone on trial, especially where, you know, no one talks about that, but the still there, then we go, the people in washington, d. c, who protested, as is the right under the 1st amendment. they protested that the of the certification of the election. they're still in prison and i'm many, half of the haven't even had a have trial for them. well in. and there was more like, oh, been sent us the grotesque task. and it was, it just simply say, navarro only was such as the 19 years of ridiculous to that still lesson then. um what some of the, the proud boys was sentenced to. well also martin, we had the death of gonzalo lira. i mean with that, but there was no outcry in the west there. you know, you know, martin, the again, you know, when we get a story like this. so obviously it was um, it will go crowd funding for ukraine and of all and the sudden death at the hands
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of whoever is a justification to fund the ukraine conflict. but this is how they connected. but i want to remind our viewers here and of only was a very, or had a very checkered career politically in russia, it was mostly associated with the right we nationalist for over the 20 years that he was in, involved in agitation. i would put it that way, but that's, that's uh, forgotten there. youtube videos where he refers to migrants. has cockroaches. okay . or migrant workers is a, a tooth decay in russian society. and then he played this kind of reformer anti corruption role and he was himself was convicted of, of corruption. george already points on, i want to be very clear that extremism thing kind of mystifies me. but that's a part of the law that can be easily interpreted in the way you want, but then they've all need that is being harold in the west is not in the,
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the only the people know when russia yeah. but also i think the only in west is i think we should make it very clear that perhaps a lot of his demise above the reason why ends up in prison was because of the west and methylated because of him getting so close to the americans. and progress in the european so, i mean there is that there is a film circulating. i don't know if it's more of him talking about $20000000.00. it needs to fund that opposition campaign you let me know from the um, a really diamond point, real black spot on his career that he was going to the image. that was not, no one in russia was surprised by that. ok. i mean that, that that's just a certified in the minds of most people that he's just a tool of the west to keep going. yeah, the thing us, the, i think we shouldn't be surprised with that me shouldn't be surprised that he's going to continue to be a little bit of a west as his wife will be. you know, i'm not jo, us touchstone. the point that there seems to be this to turn this environment with
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a you need to is to unaware, or just don't want to see how the rest is out of control machine going on in many western european countries, particularly button while we are losing freedoms. we are losing our democratic principles, we are losing our liberties. you know, 20 years ago, we would probably put on page 3 of the some of the times a big piece about. so in showing that how protest is risk or even general is to film protest as a risk that is happening today in great britain. we are arresting john bas, please. um, bundling into the back of the police vans quite aggressively gently as you pull up a small phones and just record where we can be roll just some basic footage now because what are they afraid of where, you know there is this mentality now and of these countries, the police represent the front line of gulf ultra product control and the anything to confront stuff. anything that may shakes this institution has to be dealt with
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quite, you know, in the most abrupt his way. and i think we'd, when we've lost touch of that. and so let me a little bit with this this, you know, this just the political m correct. so it makes the news. i think we can expect a world leaders. we expect us to live on the land. oh my god, i almost wanted to vomit when she talked about all values on values. you know who i mean foot say well you talking about women, your values are your values. um, just in plain watching julia assigned the british prison, you know, and you may have some goals are there before we know for all your values just too slow. so another 500 children today and gaza, you know, i mean, look good saying this is, well, you know, you know, martin's, you know, there was a threat to george i, i think i've figured it out. you can have values when you're an elected official. what do you see? i, i think so it's a, it's always bizarre. what, watching her as if she's a, a political lead the just simply on the like the, the that but the,
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that is the model is actually the right about the issue of values. she talks a lot of advice because sold in the nato secretary general also loves to talk about it. we, we, we have values, they don't. and the key thing is that they never get challenged on this. they never get it are, you know, all about these uh, you know, the, the, the, the circle values and the guy so julian assigned is absolutely front incentive. how do you justify keeping in prison? uh, someone is not being in prison. 5 years was not being convicted or anything, just easy is being convicted of nothing in, in the u. k. um and he's being held for 5 years in a high security, a prison. and, you know, let me know, nobody really ever awesome these questions. and if should anyone, even danes will ask the question, they would be immediately let out by security as, as are, these are some terrible suggest a person who doesn't really know how to behave in the proper
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a social setting. and so this is, this is really the, the point, the with the, the, you know, the nato and the land is that they simply convinced that it's because they, the russians were chinese, other ones with the evil. this is what they do to the political opponents and when, and you know, when you point out to them what, you know, hey, what he, what, what are you doing here? here are the political opponents. here are people being thrown into prison here, people just being kept the year off the air in prism um you know, the best sense that i, i, the, they throw you out wrong. well, the best to say, well, that's just what about as of words, is just built in talking points. and again, you know, it's true if we go back to the january, the 6th there's, you know, thousands of people have been incarcerated, send to send, send 2 legs, they present to us. and again, for longer terms then uh, you know, not enough on it. and still they get to it with what we have values,
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what all these values, where are these bad? well, you know, it's interesting, martin, is it, um again we see a case where someone's death is quite useful for the powers that be because this is a, you know, we're going to talk about the, the munich and security conference in the 2nd half of the program but um, this is one of the highlights of the security conference in munich is that uh, you know, we have a, a supportive is rail support of a ukraine and another battering ram against russian. this time it's in the volume it's, it's, it's very useful for these people. it's incredibly useful. and, you know, in the here in union we should always remember, it's not a democratic, but it's a, it's an older client body as a sort of the antithesis of democracy. in the national state level, united site was designed by design, it was created so the, it could run through some policies that were never got through with the democratic way. and, you know, and there was this belief certainly by the french leads at that time to the end of
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the war in the fifty's. this was a way to develop and to move forward. and there's to sort of bypass the level of the democratic stuff that we've just been in the way and go in way. you know, i'm people. i also went to the land, so to get back to them. but, you know, they can take, they, i'm div as last at all, those federalist and brussels, you know, milk in the gravy train, you know, and paying that drum, you know, they're all coming out now with this same argument which we hear again. and again, the last few days, you know, and it's been repeated just to in the last couple of days, you know, that your needs to be bigger. it needs to have more money for the defense. you know, and this, this, this, this uh, unfortunate deal to that well, have to jump in here. we have to go to a break that all be through nato, not the european union gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the
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russian states. never as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community invest. in most all sense enough. in the $65.00 to $5.00 must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester routing and split the r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say steven twist, which is the, the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, the welcome to cross type over, and john peter will bill revenge. we're discussing some real is george, i want to go to, you know, i said in the 1st part of the program and we will discuss the munich security conference. they used to be an interesting venue. i mean, i would follow what you would follow and we would, it would sometimes would be some very interesting guess. vladimir putin made a very historic one many years ago, which foretold what would happen in ukraine. it is happened, not that i'm say he could predict the future, but you can connect the dots of if you, there's a certain thought process that goes forward for that. um, without any kind of restraint, we're going to have a conflict. we have that now, but you know, the munich conference now is just,
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it's very jingle with stick. um it's, it seems extremely controlled, but they don't, they don't talk about security. this is what irritates me so much. the issue of security is never mentioned. you know, when you look at the, the, the, the big names, you know, mister zalinski was there, we have the ball and his wife is there, very orchestrated here and they're not talking about the security situation in europe now they're looking to bolster a failing regime in cube to batter against russia, again, luminaries in munich, presumably, experts in security, kamala harris, is there, another expert that they, they don't call for a ceasefire? in 1000 of you, you would say the diesel leads would have enough, you know, clout it and, and, and influence the say well, we've talked about security here and you know, the security of the middle east, what we shouldn't have ceased. they can't even get there. they talk about
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everything, it seems like, except for security george, today us the right the, the, the, what they mean by security is security for themselves. they don't exactly buy security for anyone else because they say they did take that seriously global security. and then they would invite and leave this alone with the well and ask them, well, what the security means to you? i mean, they, yeah, they go to um, you know, and those 3 what a security means on those career. what does security mean for iran? and they would get surprising answers and so that's what, that's why they would prefer, say, well, security and our security, that's all that really matches. but what's interesting and, and that's really highlights the problem that nato isn't about protection. it is a protection racket. and the apple, they literally only thing that that's on the mines is how do we keep was going for as long as possible. so that at this media immunity security conference,
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the anguish they had was from mice come back this, this is the 9 that trump will come back. now, you know, they like it, you know, they can go back and do the trunk is what you're saying. we're relatively peaceful, literally. oh, that was, it was was, it wasn't anything as bad as what we have today, but this will be a nightmare. the truck might bring was doing and it might, you know, he might, well, you might know of. i mean, he also sent legal weapons to ukraine, so we don't know, but it's closing them night mess. you might come back and they might just bring was to an end. and that's, that's just terrible. and that's why in the munich they, they, they try to, as a badge of the republicans look, look on the volley. it's the wrong that you have to sign off on this uh $60000000000.00 where you credit even though what's the connection between the 2 of us on this, the stuff tells you, you gotta get that money in. and so that's, that's the thrust of this conference. they just rating the republicans with
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insufficient eagerness to throw more money into that slow the, it would seem to me try, that's kind of a form of election meddling from an outside of course. but i don't know discomfort under it out there. you know, martin georgia is right. i mean, they only want to talk about their security, but i feel a little bit further a little bit more new of the security of their class and of their id. ology. okay, the security of the gemini, they were, it will be continued on interrupt and if not expand, but this is what this is all about. the indivisibility of security is not in their lexicon. any longer, martin, i thought it was just basically a very long lower slide press conference. you know, it was really what about and then chose that's the right above the point of security, rocket roads. and this is in creating a real defense strategy. and what ways people talking about they will read that to try and keep the old school going and keep the old messages of life and keeping everything in checks and making sure that everybody was on message. but the interesting thing from
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a journalist perspective is there weren't any for us that way with the journalists . you know, they have structured the event to such a way quite cleverly, actually that they invite to the top general is to actually share this of a 20 minute or 30 minute sessions. so that was a way of taking the books to say, well, we don't actually have to do live on scripted quick question from jonas to which they didn't, you know, and you have these terribly, really contracts planted questions which made me almost a lot for one point i'm the the, the, the credit and pays the rent a rent a girl today who was tons of the cult members name someone will correct me. you know, he had his question, it was so thought that it was so little constraints and the moment he done, you know, christian and the tools that okay with us enough to i know hit me when i saw him, you know, so thanks very much. so i guess there's no media instruction tool and i think nowadays that that but they didn't want a buffet to get cold. george, i think that's probably what it was like i, i, i'm sure the menus of these things are really quite impressive. okay. but i mean, martin brings up
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a really good point in the way we see it. and it's interesting that we know we've kind of thrown in like a january 6th. we're having the ball and the we have the guns i will live. are we in a one time will be a power doesn't want to be interrogated, do they, they don't want to be challenged. it's getting worse and worse and plus is something that martin can attest to. here is a media journalist. they're on the side of power that they're, they're there, they praetorian guard george, exactly on the, on the side of power. and that's why they continually so you know, like attack dogs on a leash against anyone or told who challenges it. so like carlson injured the that's a very good example. the goal of the attacks against the top across on the he had the temerity to go to moscow to interview any important will lead to but he didn't ask hard questions now these years never do realize ask talk
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quest. if you, if you do when, when was the last time any journalist went into uh, the oval office, an awesome bind. and um, what the hell are you doing and you pray and how is this in any way benefiting the americans with benefit and ukrainian is benefiting anybody or asking why is that the pursuing julia massage. i mean, is this just like it is a general is why why you want to put him away the presence of the rest of his life? they never do that. it is always kind of morning like, well, what do you think we're going to do about this threat to democracy by donald trump? i'm is the president. and is that that's the level of the questions you get to so so then to do criticized a topic, also for softball questions, because nobody's even ever the game. just just to go to an am a and
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a nato press conference and with the questions it always is made to doing enough to come to russia. what's you know to do or do you have is media class. i mean, i've been there and i've been, shouldn't be called media, but the, they're the ones that are more hot, they're always more hawkish. there's a, you know, with more retaliation, more retaliation. the, you know, we, a, it's, it's very into the, are you watch the sunday shows in the united states and in the, it's a kind of a perverse defensiveness, that the buy ministration has. like you're not doing enough. you know, and i mean, when we look back was they were going down to the pots of a 3rd world war. and it's a very artificial conversation that the powers that be and the media have, which of course none of these people in media ever been on a battlefield. most likely martin go, do you have to? yeah, i have, i've been with you in my career, but the point i think that towards making use it is is let me follow up, i think come it's know that tucker, call some of the of the questions it's, i don't think it's the questions with that topic which is really the kind of
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questions the my journalist interns or university were put together on the back on the legs have been doing what lead or they were just basically rudimentary, normal questions that you know anybody would come up with and we should be asking ourselves why, why does somebody like to the cause and have to ask those questions in the 1st place? and the answer is because nobody else is of the tool. and then what's happened in my career is i've seen the transition of, you know, general is moving slowly over towards the political model to line themselves with the establishment with the intelligence services and everything. and rather than be, you know, the recalcitrant sort of angry, young man, strong stones, you know, at establish what we, what was, was the case in prison in the city since mates is that when we distinguish ourselves by being mc establishment against the french jim, is now with the same rule pro, establishment, we're all part of, you know, the conspiracy. and let's get back to, you know, to this, this conference is ridiculous conference. you know, this really was an opponent example. you know, of the leads being turned deaf and not really understanding what's going on if they
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can, they can actually think of, they can pull over our eyes and come up with this nonsense and come up with these, these constant messages. you know, of that nature has to be bigger, you know, defense spinning has to go up, you know, we have to prepare ourselves. you know, what sort of a villain came up with that. and i, she wasn't really challenged. nobody said, well why, you know, um, what, where, where's this whole going? where's so hedging? you know, but i think the confidence of, so i'm, you know, for me was known events. and even though you know it's 50, well, they just turned upset, but look at their media coverage. it was probably anything they're told because they didn't, they don't really have much to say. i mean, the big problem is we've got a problem in the world to comp resolve, so we need to feed and live on and then come up with these disorders, plans to protect people like us, the so they still have that power. there's 2, but the jobs in stoughton, but and i'm sure it's michael speaks english breaking news. he actually speaks english, i believe with a huff with the come string together with the sentence of gentlemen. but apparently
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the george short to the sergeant schultz is a half way who can speak english. so what george? yeah, yeah, it's i, i'm not a very impressed by this sergeant schultz. most gentleman speak a pretty good english and honest, but it's a, it's a 0 and it goes to this list will say the ins issue here, which is there's a munich, secure of the conference. it is now, you know, the thrust of it is how much more money can we get to ukraine? that's going to give you a hundreds of thousands of that. you want to go kill in other a few 100000 with a view to want what, what are you trying to achieve here? you know, there's a, you got yourself into this rule for no reason to your brain is not a member of maybe or another member the you, there was no reason for you to get it or why. what is the reason what it was, the explanation were, and again, this is what have journalist shouldn't be doing that job, which is the challenge was that what is the reason for this?
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and then not doing it. and of course, so you need to be brought up a god. so that's, that's another thing you would just say at what point you're going to just say, oh enough. really, you know, he's just going just keep repeating it, you know, the and then is on be like way, october, the 7th, october the 7th. but this is all they do. so what is any of this got to do with security? let's just the boys was going, oh and it started another one in, in, in the, i guess the who's using the receipt. right. you know, and then this is the alliance. you know, the somehow i, yeah they, it's, it's, it's the, it's the munich and security conference that's essentially what it is, create more in security, and then to get more budgetary funds to, to keep these more is going. gentleman, that's all the time we have a one, i think, my guess america's and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are the so you next time. remember, across the rules the,
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