not a sanches potential expedition to the united states. now this cool case like spark to 2010 in 2011. when june, amazon's published i drove of documents which were available real crimes or legible crimes, which is i was committed by the united states in both iraq, afghanistan. so campaign is on for the press freedom organizations on here. this is a critical, cool. this is a cold case that is not just about duty and the phone for the is about the rights for people to publish. information by is in the pro, the public interest. that's nice, i can, but this is an attack on press freedom, exposing things which might be the old lady in the world doesn't go onto here, business religion and loves them as all on supporting the case of joining us all. i me, i came here to london to inform both people in london about the opportunity as well as, but also my people at home in germany for campaigners. this is

a heidi political case that maybe heidi charged with the in baldwin all to big powers like britain and the united states, and only to the sides. expose the war, tribes of united states. his case was exposed, the corruption of amazing press cannot send over to the survey and it cannot set of entire political plus, plus federal song studios wife. this is a matter of life or death. she has this, right. and once more the if julian is expedited to the united states, where he is 175 years in prison on to the espionage on a day to piece of legislation introduced in 1970. this will be the 1st time the publisher has been charged under the if he is expedited that he will die in prison now that have been paid for his votes, his mental and physical health. this is even being reiterated by a un,

especially russell to describe the conditions of duty and is held in in bel multi security prison. as to not forget the judy in the phones has not been convicted or charged with any crime by britain. he was, of course, the sort factory in the ecuadorian embassy, but in 2019 police also be removed him on funds for them to as a high security prison usually was a full dose of committed acts of terror. now the states these next 2 days, tuesday and wednesday are going to be absolutely critical. this will determine whether due date is going to be expedited if that decision could take place very, very quickly. now, sellers as on have said that should the high court ruled in favor of expedition, not civil appeal, potentially appeal to the you are paying coal of human rights as a upcoming verdict on julian hassan extradition case. and in lodge there are rising

concerns so that we can expound or may faced or trust conditions and solitary confinement in the us prison system. the practice has long being the center of focus for several human rights watch dogs. if a sons appeal is denied, he may line data communications management units, also known as c m u. these have any monitored units are located in to us. prisons, one in indiana on the other. in illinois, this type of prison unit was created in 2006, the spots of the bush administration's war on terror. however, the non profit center for constitutional rights found that 4 percent of the prisoners in these units have not been charged with terrorism. c. m use a frequently face criticism from human rights groups for severely limits in prison . those outside communications. one of the c. m. use a format presence is senior engineer and journalist martin got his felt. he was given a 10 year sentence for initiating a hacker attack on the boston childrens hospital website. the cyber attack was an

act of protest against a young girl being forcibly taken from her parents. doctors claims she was a victim of parent till a buz, when the accusation was present, falls, got us felt remained in present. we have now invited martin got dispelled to join our program and discuss the c and use. thank you so much for joining us. marching, could you tell us your story? what, wherever charges the st cheese or the communications management unit. so, i'm sort of under the computer fraud and abuse ask, which is the same federal law. they used to drive aaron's force to suicide. their source was a co founder of the root cause of demand progress. the operate, the irises protocol, that hundreds rules, news platforms use aggravators on the internet. g was a luminary and visionary and they use the same law to drive him to suicide. the charges against me basically, or that i sent too much internet traffic. a group of ip addresses,

ip addresses belong to an institution and i and others feel tortured for a human trial. i refused to do what was right by. that's all for fear of the wrong reputations. ceo and president is an attempt to punish you for speaking out is certainly my placement in the seeing your uh, you know, the word justina was how's a very powerful, very well connected. $2000000000.00 are possible. and so they certainly have the connections and the government to try to reach out and prosecute the 1st place that i was an accident to see and view until i started writing for the huffington post, other domestic media outlets about the conditions inside of us federal prisons an average published article about the conditions at the metropolitan correctional center in new york for el chapo was held in the trial and were jeffrey mc. right

the powers there. epstein is not good, but our publishing and the doors slid around so they were serious human rights violations. that actually an important public officials to reform for solely because i knew even that it was only a matter of attire to some time there. they sent me to see if you had been a few months after rather to see you here. sure enough, jeffrey, i'm staples stopped at the special housing of what can you tell us about in your own experience in the communications management unit, how all the prisoners treated their, this is basically meant to break seriously. uh, you know, just your will resist your ball. fire, right? they don't like it when prisoners litigate, they don't want prisoners doing the government in court. they don't, they, when prisoners speak to the media, and the policies are, you know, they have to write the policies. so the baby's appear to be poor with america's 1st

amendment protection and free speech. and then there are wrapping divergence from any recognizable rule of the 1st amendment. i have my calls, oh, hang up my personal stories and i was speaking with years. i was finished for speaking with jervis. i was cut off before entirely for 9 months after our t for to be about tradition correction and human rights violations in the american system. i have the paperwork to prove it. and yeah, i mean, it's the same user very much. a case of washington says one thing, well, really doing it now. before i move into my next question, can you describe to us what day to day life was like at the cm you like, what was like a normal day for you? so the law library trying to start my case trying the other guys, the issues that i saw were meritorious with the doors at about

67 am on a weekday. um, you're out until about 345, getting out of your cell phone into the unit until about 345. and then you're out again sometime between 430 and 5 o'clock in the evening and then walk back in for the night at 9 o'clock. it's a very small unit, it is impossible, really to get any piece of quiet. it's impossible to avoid people you might not like. and in that regard, it's just a power kind of because our regular dogs, there's someone with whom you don't get a lot of insurance for each other in the sea and use there is no forwarding anybody . right? and so if you have 2 people who don't get a lot, it's and then there's going to be some kind of altercation. 6 months before i arrive at the scene, you in terms of there was in fact a murder and another guy. step 11 times. there's a few theories as to what instigated that incident, but you know,

it's like the volume of the tv is one of the theories. you know, there wasn't anything that you would think car take another person's life. but in the bar where you just can't get away from anybody and you have, you know, some of these cases are criminals and they miss right her from the minimum security . right. so what are the minimum security prison, the consent to a federal prison channel? i have no criminal background or criminal history, just like i saw the criminal history. my westminster is not why i'm just like a sondors, but that's designed. wow. i didn't matter. they actually would keep the right. and if one of those convicted murderers doesn't think that you know where they go to the murder, his wife, and they mix these custody levels. mobile. do that julian too, and it's a, it's an ever present danger. and a 20181. first, the size of the person, the staff, 9 times are 11, sorry, sorry. and the police inside the scene you is that washington news when it happened,

decided definitively not to do anything to stop it. that the victim had actually reached out and tried to file the court that someone was going to check them. and the courts actually, i believe, a sanctions ever told a week ago or flat. and then the guy you've painted a very dark scenario. now if extradite to julia sanchez, we're fortunate the likely to land in one of these units. do you think you would face similar treatment and i see a new people in the c. m use right. i was the only one who was a far away before the only one was kind of similar senior courses protected to julians and the retaliation against me was some of the harshest. so most predictable. and that's one of the most of the cash in 2018, one of the seeing you present those was killed nearly be headed by other detainees . and you've been to the stimulus scenario you investigated this matter. what can

you share about your research? and he just basically whatever we shared that wasn't there at the time of the incident. right. so i've got to make that very clear off for the 1st $10.00, but i was the only journalist who was able to actually interview all stakeholders, preserver staff. i conducted on investigation sorted out, presented to theories, and it might take ways that these units should not exist. you have maximum security classification and maximum security prison for a reason. you have a minimum security prisons for reason error makes people from those 2 different environments, right? to the very different ideas of prison life, very different practices in terms of prison that a good you're asking for try and washington just to choose, ask for troubles regard. even after people have that, how difficult was it to get the information you needed to weigh your sources? if you don't mind, may ask primer people who actually saw the guy who interceded

to stop it because it would've been to john's had mr. johnson, another political person there in the town. see, and she was the one who actually stop as i spoke with him, i spoke with with people on both sides. when i spoke to staff members who were. ready to speak with me about it, even though i know that i was a journalist press somewhere. i did a very, very thorough investigation and had really assets that no return should never be able to obtain as you have. right. can you do to see him, you prisoners are often kept under strict audio and video surveillance. their private phone calls are also monitored. why do you think this murder wasn't prevented despite the prison's wide, sweeping access to information to the victim's name is robert david neal. i think, you know, i presume the forties and i think they just did not expect any kind of

accountability whatsoever, and there is no track record of accountability after his murder. no one of those. right. so when you have this, just the total lack of accountability, the course to listen uh, not understood, to protect human and constitutional rights. there really is no debating factor for them to step in to protect the prisoner whom they might not. they might feel, you know, is a bad person, the country's laws or you know what jesus on what you know potentially is an ginger jada or you know, intelligence threat or anything like that. like they, they just do not care the see in your system was created in 2006, a sponsor of the bush administration's war on terra. the units were initially meant to house the most dangerous terrorist. what do you make of a fact that people with much lesser charges have been kept in these conditions as well? i think again, washington says the units are for one thing, right. and they use that to justify millions of dollars. a tax fair funding for

this year. this year after year, the so called intelligence analysts in charge of reviewing these changes with single phone call that are there exorbitant salaries, they have no real cases. they will not pass muster, in my opinion as intelligence analysts actually c, i a or the state department of guidance i, the senior that recognize their former presumed are these. and these are people who have no intelligence training, no cost degree, you know, but again, you know, they get trained to try to bureau of prisons. they, you know, look at the other way, the right time. you know, whenever they did, to gain the space, to get this 6 figure salary and they don't protect the public either. there were instances where they're actually work. right? americans died at the scene. you didn't solve it. so, you know, when you look at all the same, you exist to curtail twice down the suppress people originally and people

like me and the style to gauge, right? the, the fiber case, the interview, the interview or the communication returns. right? they made it very, very hard for me to appeal right to the human success, to preserve convictions saw options at stop the media. the center for constitutional rights found that only 60 percent of the prisoners housed in these units are incarcerated on terrorism related charges. who makes up the other 40 percent a. so 1st the sophistic from ccr once it was accurate at the time that the ccr published in 2019, at a time i got there. it was only about any given time between 30 and 45 percent of guys on terrorism or material support charges that they turned out to be to really high profile terrorism cases because those go to the maximum security us prison

forest, colorado. so these are like the 20 year old kids are getting documented on the internet getting trapped and they're trying to like, we're playing a board approved shift to syria. right? to find out the other side of june political, you know, dispute with united states, you know, takes 115, their call a way to go over and try to fight on the other side. they've got no intention of getting into the narrative. they're not even trying to be in america. right. and, but they take that case of those cases and they play them. all of these are huge public safety, right? right, right. and they do that because there's a lot of money in running to see of use the spot another 30 percent at any given time that are just political prisoners. people like me, people originally saw you know, i can, i can, there's another guy there. david donald reynolds jr, i it looks like he's there just to stop the truth about the justice department's operation fast and furious from coming in. so that was where the justice department

wants to show. paul was trying to mask the piercing fire. in addition to drug cartel salt water and those weapons were used to kill whole mexican nationals and american federal ages. right. and he's there as far as i can. so here's a guy we've had this case investigated by multiple multiple journalists, including not the american concern. ringback here in the united states, which ultimately recommended clemency, forgotten because of the prosecutorial original errors in his case. right. and he said, stephen wireless keep the lid really fast and furious. this is something where the obama administration received the subpoena from the house of representatives for information on the operations. b, a ball warehouse has started executive privilege to watch that subpoena. right. but dining under when we're looking for castell, lady maryland would be entitled to information about fast and furious to find his

case. and his lawyers should have been given that information. but it seems like with the right sort of donald never gets, has changed back into court or whatever. because where they probably know that history is, was fast and furious, that he's able to prove this plan nation to be able to get back to court. and then the government to no longer pull the information fast and furious from dice, defense and protocol, right? so that's another example of the type of case that's there. you know, at least 50 percent percent of the silence of the 30 to 45 percent of the salt chairs are really just an excuse that washington uses to be able to continue to run these units at exorbitant tax fair expense. remind you to protect cross professionals, united states, u. s. department of justice previously sentient due to our, to quoted you could you tell us more about this case and the measure sticking against you? a yeah, so i was also a dream. she's looking for a post and she asked me some questions for

a phone call. she gave my thoughts without my knowledge to nancy r t. then when an article telling me about the us justice system saying that is correct, saying that the water longer wise, the united states, the response to that was to take away my phone calls with the outside world for several months. and this is in, you know, supposedly we got the 1st amendment here, as you know, i fear doing this on discover at this point in america. the 1st amendment very sadly is not parchment which is printed on the notorious u. s. prison isn't metropolitan correctional center. that's way america in finance here and convicted sex offender, jeffrey epstein was found dead in his cell in 2019 whether it was death by suicide or not. how is it that the prison lost all footage of the incident? especially if we consider epstein had to a trying to take his own live 3 weeks before his death to not believe

simply not credible that this footage was lost. i find it far more likely that this furniture's deleted and no accountability. there's no one like i think they charge one of those ceo's cases winter dropped around the house. certainly don't change that, you know the place and they were doing rounds of the day that they weren't doing there. i mean, is there any assurance or so called insurance from washington? has to, julia sandra saying, you're the safety of anyone else extradited into washington's custody, is simply not for a look at the record of this present. just baldor look at geoffrey epstein and then even look at their sports, right? this system, it's simply not credit. so what do you say is the main problem of these high security presents? how do they live up to their designated goal of fighting terrorism?

or there's a single national case of in job for the efforts in either a rag or asking. and that's good for us. you know, the problem is that, you know, the problem is you know, timing is willing to fund presses to keep the public safe. it's something that strikes, of course, as something people are very fearful, right? like criminal justice, terence, right? so the model covers the right to that there. but then when you look at the actual implementation, right, in marketing is a student we're gonna have to leave it there. thank you so much, much and got us filled up formally imprisoned, human rights advocates, senior engineer and during this thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. we're bringing you the latest on the julian assange case as we follow the hearings of the high court in london over the next 2 days. more details and now lucy's and reaction can be found on our website

r t dot com. the venezuelan foreign minister has welcome to is russian count abroad to sort of their lab roving cut across the pad discussed future cooperation with lab for of emphasizing that the west violation of international law jeopardizes global stability of the seller venezuela is also suffering from these barbaric plundering policy of the united states and its satellites, venezuelan money, state reserves, as well as russian state reserves are frozen in a number of western countries and basis, of course, the most brutal violation of international law. and of course, this undermines the system of international finance as which the united states has

constantly for many years presented as optimal. they discredited themselves and the principles of globalization that they professed, as in general, the best emission in the world economy, both foreign ministers, today's trust that their relationship has a long history of soul. its structure does not depend on the absence loans of 2 political or electronic games. uh, it is based primarily on the commonality of, of use on how the international system should be structured on how to it shouldn't be operated with the primacy of the un charter and particularly the principal, the quality sufferings phase. now, as you know, both russian, minnesota have been on the receiving end all west through sanctions for particular american sanctions. and both ministers spoken very strong terms against the use of unilateral legislative moves to undermine other countries. a case in point

would be the seizure. all the, the new zealand cargo plane in argentina and just a couple of days ago and argentina. and george made a decision to handle more to washington simply because of the way it was purchased from iran. and according to the united states, the american view that violated american functions, the less your flag venezuela has denounced as flagrant violation in various international forms. and in this specific case of the plane in the international civil aviation organization, the fact of the aircraft is an active international piracy. and it is nothing more than a demonstration of how far the united states can get in its desire to attack venezuela . then as well as putting pressure on international organizations, in addition to a panel for the truth, for justice, and for that we will use all our allies,

all our partners to be able to demonstrate this to both minnes trust trust, the country physician, a gas unilateral sanctions is driven not only by the harm uh, very concrete harm that those functions inflicts on the economies and on the people of those countries. but also because they ultimately undermine the very nature of the very basis of international law. because the law is only a law when it's universally, when teens and respected when it's applied uh, single handedly, when it's applied only by some countries against others. if it comes to all individual countries, moses and this is something that cannot be sustained, that's all for me. for salary, don't forget to check out. our website are to come from one use coverage and analysis. i'm additional why josh? my colleague, charlotte dimansky is at the top of the hour with the latest updates stay with us. the

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