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the, the gemini, vist tensions with its nato allies, as chance, little of schultz tends to bits in on from helping ukraine file long range missile its russian forces. and we will not allow anyone to interfere in our internal affairs. the so called west with its colonial tabitha needs, independent feeding dying state instead of russian quest that tends to instill for and we can reset, have failed from us the message from president, but he made present any states as a nation address police to a 112 palestinians have the box, the kid this, they were rushing to receive 8 in northern gaza. guess if the tons accounts from the survivors. an eye witnesses. we were on our receipts street and certainly
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tac store in the past. it was chaos. they were crowds of people, but the occupation tips choirs with us. there were so many martyrs casualties. understood the images that had the chatty and prosecute that confirms opposition lead to the dealer is dead. he died in on the cost is the rug to the nation's capital on wednesday. because you headlines the 3 m must go time. do feel free to head over to all t dot com for more on any of those stories. monies be discard 20 bucks with another, looks in a box and i was the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered?
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i'm theater. lavelle, the united nations says at least 576000 people in gaza, or one step away from famine. meanwhile, jo volume is seen using about a potential ceasefire by one showing an ice cream cone. this is a state of play. this is the politics of genocide, the cross fucking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in to them. we have mohammed mirandi. he is a professor at the university of colorado and in london we crossed the mohammed according to the state as a lawyer and parliamentary candidate or a gentleman. costs lock rolls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. mohammed ran to be let, let me go to you 1st and turn on. i, i want to do a special call out right now about aaron bush now and his extreme act of defiance to what he deemed as an active member of the military us military is jet,
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the us government's pursuit of genocide. so this a story says almost everything we really need. if it was mentioned at all and main stream media, it didn't give you any idea of what was going on. it was very, very shameful and embarrassing for the profession. mohammed just absolutely in the main stream media has been behaving in the most shameful manner since the genocide and gaza began. but when i woke up to the news that he had a cub burned himself alive in front of it is rarely the embassy. and i saw the footage, it was for a for a few minutes. i really couldn't think it was very painful. i didn't. i never saw the footage till the very end, but he was very clear what he was after. he was very clear uh, with regards to why he was doing this. he did it like a like he was like i,
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he acted like a soldier and it will have an impact. because while the media immediately began to question his sanity and his background, those when you him came out and said that he was a very decent person and a very likable person. and the fact so the tax people across the united states young people in particular, they are going to be at least most of them, i believe, are going to be moved by this, this act of sacrifice. i would never advise anyone to do this for now. that he has carried out this act, we should all use this moment to humiliate those who are carrying out this genocide to expose. ready or carrying out what the president of brazil said was similar to the holocaust. yeah. and again the,
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the media attacked him for that may can, but it would be resilient president side was actually in context. but the media reported was without the context. that's what we expect here. all right, back to business line or 2 thirds of americans, independence, republicans, democrats want a permanency spire there. jo, jo biden's administration ignores that. i thought this was a democracy as well. well, it's just not a democracy because as you know, we're not a tyranny by the majority and we don't, it's not majority roles. we are technically a constitutional republic. may i just ask one favor just on what you just mentioned regarding bush and or if you don't mind, go ahead. i have waited they played. does this play, this is killing me. and it's funny how we select. certainly, here rose. remember the monkey in 1963. yep. courageous, bobby sans, hunger. strider, cesar chavez. yep. uh there was
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a quaker who sell immolated during vietnam. we love certain people who sacrifice hunger, sykes, and the like. do you know that after this happened, that various baby media reports referred to genocide in quotes that this man referred you quote, genocide, and one particular national outlet said at the end of this, if you are a family member, are having ideations of suicide or basically if you're crazy, like this guy seek help and here's a number to call you. this is, this is the way this story was skewed. and again, not, not loading a suicide, but did they do? they not know that this wasn't some guy who, who misunderstood a football game or somebody that this is going on this. this is part and parcel going back to your question, how could there be a ceasefire? where there's only one well firing?
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i don't rogers, i still don't under i, i this, this terminology that we use. i'm a lawyer and i'm trying to always find the, the definition. so i'm, i'm at a loss across the board. i'm sorry, well, i'm a line or a, you know, in, in, in the context of, of the united states. and i know i'm in mirandi lived there for a while. i mean, it's not surprising you, you've said week after week the, because of the media coverage, people just aren't aware. okay. because i think of a were aware they would act very differently. but we have a political class and then apply a media that wants to control the method error in the voice mail story is the best example ok for the domestic context. here. let's go back to its go to my home in in london. one of the reasons what the primary is, why, why did you do this program was watching joe biden eating an ice cream cone, talking about the potential of a cease fire. and i, i can't imagine being more toned depth. okay. um and plus he was just thinking
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about the primary in michigan, most likely, but it's so casual. and so talis, go ahead mohammed in london a lot. i think it's been a long time the case, the low, many people pay attention to what to by doing the same is true, but i didn't was fully in control of his own bodily functions. then that would be something, but he finds it difficult to climb up or down steps, finds it difficult to keep hold of where he is in his mind. on many of his in many was interviews and said it's very clear that joe biden is not in control of whatever is going on the united states, and there's police forces behind him the property law. well, the mohammed mohammed, if i could just and interject here, i mean we have, uh he was a senator. i think he was a senator and the roman empire has been around for so long. he was, is known as the most ardent design is in the senate. and now as vice president and
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as president, we can look at his physical and mental failings, but make no mistake. he zion is through and through. he says that all the time mohammed so, but if this is the best, the particular group people power can pro pop as the front. and then it shows that the weakest within the power base. all the of the whole guys ation. because if you have to pull out somebody who's frankly indistinguishable from the zone, then it means of us the best you could actually achieve. so i think that the phase in the, the phase in that form will come and fix is of some of these doesn't really exist. and, and off to we have, i didn't say come off the center stage. then i put and believe that the power that has to be on bodies and is not crested and will be for certainly a little well stage of the pronouncements of what reality is meant to be by the design. this will be the southern, the landing with the public,
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and you mention that the company come where i, i don't believe that's the case. i think that in terms of the u. j. and the us as well, a vast majority of the public pretty much against the will going on. and unfortunately, the media powers and the political powers are long the goes to own people. and it took a soldier to burn himself so that he could boom through the want of that, of that bouquets against democracy on the people in order to try and shine a light on the fact of that time of resistance to once he's, frankly, i'm the covering of, of a genocide and we've, we've been seeing that these protests around the world because south africa as a nation to be galvanized to bring the case in the i c j that would have happened without the will of the people being. so the, the, i'll take a load wide and that quote, which included a requisite proof foot by israel as a judge. he himself, yeah, well, so again,
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this is drawn on to the 9 point. so really, there is no more cause for this very clear breach of human rights. this is a question the home of the problem. the problem is, is that we, we, i think a, we're all on the same page here, but it's not stopping here. mohammed into around, i mean line on the bottom brought it up. i mean, when, in, in, in, in an article that he read about aaron bush now they had a, a genocide and quotations. that's the problem, isn't it? okay. they, they will not recognize what's going on. they refused to do it. and if you do, say it, you, you are, are shut down, your disappeared, etc. go ahead mohammed into into that. yes, but you do become rather irrelevant. gradually, the, the main stream media, the corporate media, the legacy media, when they continue to support genocide when they continue to hide this genocide or
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attempt to hide this trend aside from the public and people are seeing what's going on there, undermining themselves in the short term they are, of course, supporting dentist side there are assisting genocide that are part of this genocide in your times of washington post all the cnn, bbc, all of them are, are guilty in this, in this the people are most crime, but they are undermining themselves people. the for, for, for a number of years now, the media has become increasingly a question by ordinary people. it's become less respected by ordinary people, but now it's in freefall. mm hm. so they can continue going down this road, but they're just quickening the pace of their own demise. i'm optimistic about the teacher, even though the genocide is ongoing, even though last night was particularly horrible. when this riley's slaughtered
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a large number of people who are waiting for aid, the footage is, is, is, is particularly painful to watch. despite the fact that every day it's been painful . but beyond that, i am optimistic about the future. no one believes the western media. i mean, when i speak about nolan, i mean the general public across the globe. few people have any respect for the western political establish establishment. and the people across the world are increasingly seeking alternatives. breaks the shanghai cooperation organization, other regional organizations. these are all being given a boost. the irony is that we all want a ceasefire immediately for the sake of the people of gaza. but the regime and the regimes that are losing because of the continued genocide are the united states this way, the regime, the british mom and i have to jump in here. we have to go to
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a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our to the the, [000:00:00;00] the news,
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the welcome back across stock were all things are considered and peter live elsewhere. man, you were discussing palestine, the okay, let's go back to lionel lionel, you know, we, we, i started out the program talking about i'm the inability of the, the a by the administration to reflect upon public opinion. here. are they going to continue down the same path because i think all of them this program in our viewers are a bit tired to say the least about. it's really difficult and you are work. we're trying really hard. we're trying the media. i don't believe any of but i think that's a complete smoke screen. okay. i don't think they by the administration is going to do anything whatsoever to hinder. israel's goals, which is genocide awaits displacement and they'll just say we did our best and that
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will be good enough for some people. but i think as a, as our other guests have said that is going to alienate in, in a, a very fundamental way. but as we move forward, lionel to, i have mentioned you before peter, that there is a definition of problem that people have in this country. when you say the word genocide, i am saying look, that is a term of art from the genocide convention. this is about targeting and holder, and part of people i've seen people have in their minds as world war 2. i've mentioned as cattle cars and the complete elimination of all palestinians everywhere i. i wish i could somehow change the name. second of all, it's not just buying me the other day though, i saw an interview. you might have seen it as well on online or some platform with, with bernie sanders, bernie sanders, the, the, the, the grandfather of the potter familiar us of, of, of the left, just whatever. and he was ask, what do you,
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what will you do regarding the genocide and he should have worked for roget. he's far as he had every version of harbor paint, destruction, everything up and clothing. that number is still one that you as well. i know because my, my segment should be called light from the fish bowl because i live in this world of people who sort of know, but also peter, they don't want to be bothered. but you mentioned the word scientist. i could walk to you right with you to times square, which is a half a mile from here. we got off for a $1000.00 to anybody to define what that means in the context of what's happening now. and they will look at it by virtue of this, this regimentation as it being can amount to, to some type of anti semitic slower. yeah. that you're, you're the big. so this is, this is my problem. i'm, i'm sorry gentlemen, i'm, i'm,
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i'm in this master class of every edition. i am from, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the fish full of people who don't understand this. and we also have, if you just one more thing, you crane to a globally confused people as to where it is on the map who's who, and the other day 11 peers morgan, in an interview with john mare schreiber, was repeating this world war 2. i mean with it, i'm in a parallel universe. there are people who, who overly complicate and oper scabbing model. i think this is very intentional regarding mohammed and in london. this has been intentionally done here. i mean, i think all of us should start talking about the holocaust and gas. it does say it, okay. and if it, if it like people it, well, what then say well, you know what, then you would talk about what that really means. i mean, start educating people, start challenging people, and don't be afraid to say the truth. okay. well, how many more than one of the problems is what line will just brought up
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a whole word? zine is, i mean what it's supposed to invoke, i mean, look what happened to one of your, of a former prime ministers. a was hounded out of office or being anti semitic, which, which is absurd on the face of it all. but they use that word in a very, very engineered way to silence people not to make people think. but the silence then go head mom and in london you up to the right spot. so like anything that's engineered, it has a certain tourism is so the phrase anti semitism is now about to suffer from mental city where it's been so over use and been tabs of shapes of it will. it will soon fail in the minds when we're speaking people. and the reason for that is because the i, c, j, the international court of justice has been accused of being and submitting the un has been accused of being on smith, a been con, nation nation. those are most recently come out of a policy which is south africa has been accused of being and some is a,
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i don't room full heroes in the u. k. who's down against the genocide having coolant semitic. so he's, you know, which will be like guns indicated. um, so if you send to the company will, these races that uses live has a meeting soon enough? and i think that's really where a lot of the sensible and clear minded people of the jewish faith have been very vocal about the misuse. yeah. but um, because it actually does cover up for actual services which has existed in europe, particularly it's been a you opinion problem for over a 1000 years. it's not really one that's a later the feature of the, of the arch of not sees them and send it to the movies is called issues that were born in your yes, i was a know, things that were in the, in the are the context. but so that being said, i think those people in the jewish will be the spend all these radio. we were all the who spend so much time educating us for the whole course days. so we things i
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shingles list have now actually towards us. we own them, a service of tours is exactly what little cost looks like and what we see in palestine is exactly what we were told from us going sweetens on programs i should as list i wouldn't be. oh, great. yeah. so i think, you know, we need to just get pasta rhetoric and remind people of their upbringing. yeah, i think, well, it's good to a town. i think, you know, if they, if they put a gas change here and costs and then people start believing it, i guess maybe that's what has to happen here. you know, what, how many they think of everything is anti semitic? been what is i would say the most anti semitic thing is zine and some yes, i think design is in as anti semitic because they are the ones who are how climbing the jewish people, more than anyone else. and thankfully, many young jews, as it's already pointed out, have become very, very vocal during the past few months. and in fact,
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in new york times article that was full of lies about rape and the headings and all that. on october, the 7th day was exposed by uh, a palestinian lead website in the united states. and the website led by i do is a friend of your show. so uh there are changes taking place across the board, both internationally, but also locally. and when i mean locally, i mean in the west. uh, i think that as the previous guess, pointed out, these words have been you so much by design this lobby, that they're losing their meaning. and i agree that people, many people in the united states in that bubble still feel that way. but the fact remains that every day we're getting, we're seeing more and more image is coming out of gaza,
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a never ending in genocide and never ending holocausts. and people will gradually see the reality, those who don't want to accept reality never will. yeah. but overwhelmingly people across the world are seeing reality. and what is really resume is doing is that they're cementing this hostility of animosity towards their racism towards that of those centers. ism, and as they are, they are destroying themselves by continuing this. they should be the 1st to push for a ceasefire because oh, as i said, although palestinians are being women and children are being massacred on a daily basis, that is really regime and to twist with allies. so what is western allies are being dist demolish now? because of this genocide across the world, they can never speak about human rights. again, make whatever accommodations every man it can never talk about taken seriously. they cannot never talk about the rules based order anymore, okay?
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because i have no idea what that means, could get it, particularly in what we're seeing going on and causing it, you know, line or it's closer to home to you. the new york times again, is in a extremely hot, hot water. this ridiculous story about a systematic rape on october 7th, which has been demolished in israel in the united states on called the great zone there. and now they're looking at who are the co authors of that monstrosity is. and lo and behold, it's a non journalist, and so i wonder workforce really intelligence kind of a embarrassing situation to find yourself in line of embarrassing. if you understand that, by the way, i'm going to steal the line about metal fatigue. that is an a such an apt uh analogy. if i am or i a quote, mcclellan who says that that little, that, that little lies are very hard to keep secret. but big lies are easy because of our incredulity. do you know what it would be like if any of you,
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a gentleman were to stand up and say, you know this rape story is false? what your denying rape? no, no, i'm denying this. what. what do you, how are you sick? so what happens is, if it's a big story, the incredulity of it is a problem there. there's also something which is interesting. the more that we see images and pictures, the more we sub bitch, a way to them. peter, remember in our generation, when we 1st heard about me live and it's side hurt, people's stopped street and we didn't even see pictures and we didn't even we didn't even we didn't even say pictures are absolutely right. yes. we did not understood we were, but today perhaps by virtue of maybe our psycho toby medication because of the fact we've been habituated to this, to this over and over and over. or we're just a completely different. maybe our psyche has been affected by some kind of a social parasite or, or virus,
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but nobody's reacting to this. and finally gentlemen, what happens is people are told all the time, you don't understand how much is a difference or they are, you, you, this isn't a, a symmetric war. they don't have uniforms, they don't have walls. you have to what you might consider to be over a kill is, is perhaps, yeah, but why not? doesn't this really speaker? let me go to mohammed in in london here, this, this really speak to just the deep seated racism within western the leads. i mean, it's easy to rationalize what's going on here. there are less, are people there brown people that are muslim? i mean it really plays into that. well, the reason why i bring it up is with the same a leads like to talk about their diversity and all of that. i mean, there are hypocrites to the core. go ahead and london. yeah, i mean there's been a research study of the idolized the payments that were coming to our
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lead pacino position of labor policy from pro is on his own piece. and it turns out that 40 percent of loss china cabinet have received funding from uh, pro design is still good. nice ations. now in terms of whether there is a deep siege of racism. sure, that res. there's any study in the west will show a degree of institutional racism across the board in any institution. a more problematic than that re, is, is the issue of being funded by a particular, lo be to have a particular outcome. and i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we have run out of time. absolutely fascinating discussion with all 3 of you. i want to think my guess in london, new york and into the end. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. and next time, remember, cross that bridge,
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the afghanistan has a drug with conquerors attention from time a memorial in the 19th century, the british empire decided to subjugate that century. the british view, the afghan lands as the northern gateway to india, and wanted to turn them into an obedient province, trying to predict independence. the mere of a dentist in the us blue homage turned for help the russia rates. the breed is considered their deal political adversary. this was the last straw for london. britain declared war on the half gans in august 18, 39. the invaders occupied couple and brought their heinsman to bowers. the invaders brutally suppressed. any resistance, thus, is telly. they slaughtered all ask in man who had reached the delta pan,
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raped hundreds of women seeking to humiliate the muslims. 1841. a general uprising against the british yoke began debris. it is under the command of general elton stone last couple and started to retreat. only a few out of the 16000 invaders who had begun their march from couple made it to the british position. we've seen jello about the defeat of the royal army caused a norm is damaged to the prestige of the british empire throughout the world. the victory of the afghani people became the most important events in the history of the oppressed peoples resistance to the colonialists. it just failed the races. smith of the european invincibility, the april falls, 1899. but then gabby, although i skipped in fully this entire area, is
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a native spies take or some of these get to use them to find out that as as codes from these to freestanding he, when he returns, if you refuse to cooperate tagging, slowly about the tire to the saw as of use, the, the weight, the window and go down the gym. the quick. oh, well, she'll get to us. welcome with the blog, i suppose. the only time you turn into what we need then now if we take very quickly, okay, so when did you put the uncle with jimmy when he wanted to know, we didn't go? no. what do you not do?

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