fire flow and showing an ice cream color. this is a state of play. this is the policy of genocide the they can use on oxy international. a bombshell leak shows gym and generals discussing the foaming of the crime in bridge. although jim and have a few comments on the issue where it says something different about the set, again, love, roads, visit obvious the nature of powers directly involved in the ukraine, conflicts they clearly understand what they are talking about. and one of the exchanges, someone says lovely, that there are americans in civilian clothing on the grounds. so it's obvious that our nato colleagues have a figure in the pipe. at least 115 palestinians have been musket as they were rushing to receive age in garza city, i guess and since they only find the morning shots while the stones you an invoice

says the bullet wound suggest, otherwise dozens of them have thoughts in that heads it's not like you know, fighting in the sky to that is today. and people, if there was a confusion is in the class and view and human rights commission condemns legislation. the crushed stone on the l g b t. community in the west of the condition of going to one of the bill to sponsors says, do you have this done for this hypocritical, why should anybody think that they have the right to tell got in. so bring this up in parliament. they've done what we should do, i figure out that's on our phones to our independence, and also ramsey and people show minded businesses and take care of their own business. was the headlines the 3 months ago time? i'll be back with the full news run down in just on to and i was talking to the

the hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . the united nation says at least 576000 people in gaza or one step away from them . and meanwhile, jo volume is seen using about a potential cease fire by one showing an ice cream coat. this is a state of play. this is the politics of genocide, the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in to them. we have mohammed mirandi. he is a professor at the university of colorado and in london we crossed the mohammed according to the state as a lawyer and parliamentary candidate or a gentleman, costs lock rolls in effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. mohammed ran to me, well, let me go to you 1st and hold on. i,

i wanna do a special call out right now about erin bush now and um, his extreme act of defiance. uh, to what he deemed as an active member of the military us military is jet, the us government's pursuit of genocide. but this a story says almost everything we really need. if it was mentioned at all in mainstream media, it didn't give you any idea of what was going on. it was very, very shameful and embarrassing for the profession. mohammed absolutely in the main stream media has been behaving in the most shameful manner since the genocide and gaza began. but when i woke up to the news that he had a, a cub burned himself alive in front of it is rarely the embassy. and i saw the footage it was for, for a few minutes. i really couldn't think it was very painful. i didn't. i never saw

the footage to the very end, but uh, he was very clear what he was after. he was very clear uh, with regards to why he was doing this. he did it like a like he was like, he acted like a soldier and it will have an impact. because while the media immediately began to question his sanity and his background, those when you him came out and said that he was a very decent person, a very likable person. and the fact. so the facts, people across the united states young people in particular, they are going to be at least most of them, i believe, are going to be moved by this, this act of sacrifice. i would never advise anyone to do this, but now that heat has carried out this act, we should all use this moments to humiliate those who are carrying out

this genocide to expose those who are carrying out what the president of brazil s said was similar to the holocaust, yeah. and again the, the media attacked him for that may can, but it would be resilient president side was actually in context, but the media reported was without the context. that's what we expect here. all right, back to business line or 2 thirds of americans independence, republicans, democrats want a permanency expire there. jo, jo biden's administration ignores that. i thought this was a democracy as well. well, it's just not a democracy because as you know, we're not a tyranny by the majority and we don't, it's not majority roles. we are technically a constitutional republic. may i just ask one favor just on what you just mentioned regarding bush not if you don't mind, go ahead. i have way they play this way. this is kelly me. and it's funny how we

select. certainly heroes. remember the monkey in 1963. yep. courageous bobby says congress dryer cesar chavez. yep. uh there was a quaker who sell immolated during vietnam. we love certain people who sacrifice hunger sights and the like. do you know that after this happened, that various baby media reports refer to genocide in quotes that this man referred you quote, genocide, and one particular national outlet said at the end of this, if you are a family member or having ideations of suicide or basically if you're crazy, like this guy seek help and here's a number to call you. this is, this is the way this story was skewed. and again, not, not loading a suicide, but did they do? they not know that this wasn't some guy who, who misunderstood

a football game or something that this is going on this. this is part and parcel going back to your question, how could there be a ceasefire? well, there's only one word firing. i don't understand. i still don't under i, i this, this terminology that we use. i'm a lawyer and i'm trying to always find the, the definition. so i'm, i'm at a loss across the board. i'm sorry. well, i mean line or a, you know, in, in, in the context of, of the united states. and i know i'm, is mirandi lived there for a while. i mean, it's not surprising you, you've said week after week the, because of the media coverage, people just aren't aware. okay. because they think that they were aware they would act very differently. but we have a political class and then apply a media that wants to control the message in error in the voice. mail story is the best example, okay, for the domestic car context here. let's go back to it's got to my home it in in london. one of the reasons what the primary is,

why i wanted to do this program was watching joe biden eating an ice cream cone, talking about the potential of a cease fire. and i, i can't imagine being more toned depth. okay. um and plus, he was just thinking about the primary in michigan, most likely. but it's so casual. and so talis, go ahead mohammed in london. you know, i think it's been a long time the case, the low, many people pay attention to what you're buying and the same is true, but i didn't was fully in control of his own bodily functions. then that would be something, but he finds it difficult to climb up or down steps, finds it difficult to keep hold of where he is in his mind. or many of his in many was interviews and said it's very clear that joe biden is not in control of whatever is going on the united states, and there's the forces behind him the proper lock. well, mohammed mohammed,

if i could just an interject here, i mean we have, uh he was a senator. i think he was a senator and the roman empire has been around for so long. he was, is known as the most ardent design is in the senate. and now as vice president and as president, we can look at his physical and mental failings, but make no mistake. he zion is through and through. he says that all the time mohammed so, but if the boss is the best, the, the particular group people power can pro pop as the front. and then it shows that the weakest within the power base of the whole guys ation. because if you have to pull out somebody who's frankly indistinguishable from his own the, then it means of us the best you could actually achieve. so i think that the phase in the, the phase in that form will come and fix is of some of these doesn't really exist. and, and off to we have, i didn't say come off the center stage. then i put and believe that

the power that has to be on bytes and is not crest is and will be for certainly a little well stage of the pronouncements of what reality is meant to be on the design. this will be a southern old landing with the public and you mention that the company come where i, i don't believe that's the case, i think in terms of the u. j. and the us as well. a vast majority of the public of very much against the will getting on. and unfortunately, the media powers and the political powers are long to go. so own people. and it took a soldier to burn himself so that he could boom through the wall of that, of that bouquets against democracy and the people in order to try and shine a light on the fact of that time of resistance to once he's, frankly, i'm the covering of, of a genocide and we've, we've been seeing that these protests around the world a cause south africa as

a nation to be galvanized to bring the case in the i c j. that would have happened without the will of the people being so clearly articulated worldwide. and that quote, which included a requisite proof foot by israel as a judge. he himself, yeah, well, so again, this is drawn on to the 9 point. so really there is no more cause for this very clear breach of human rights. this is a question the home of the problem. the problem is, is that we, we, i think a, we're all on the same page here. but it's not stopping here, mohammad until around. i mean line on the bottom brought it up. i mean when, in, in, in, in an article that he read about aaron bush now they had a, a genocide and quotations. that's the problem, isn't it? okay. they, they will not recognize what's going on. they refused to do it. and if you do, say it, you, you are, are shut down, your disappeared, etc. go ahead mohammed and into that. yes, but you do become rather irrelevant. gradually, the, the main stream media,

the corporate media, the legacy media, when they continue to support genocide when they continue to hide this genocide or to attempt to hide this trend aside from the public and people are seeing what's going on there, undermining themselves in the short term they are of course supporting dentist side . there are assisting genocide that are part of this genocide in your times of washington post all the cnn, bbc, all of them are, are guilty in this, in this the people are most crime, but they are undermining themselves. people for, for, for a number of years now, the media has become increasingly a question by ordinary people is become less respected by ordinary people. but now it's in freefall. mm hm. so they can continue going down this road, but they're just quickening the pace of their own demise. i'm optimistic about the

teacher, even though the genocide is ongoing, even though last night was particularly horrible. when this riley's slaughtered a large number of people who are waiting for aid, the footage is, is, is, is particularly painful to watch. despite the fact that every day it's been painful . but beyond that, i am optimistic about the future. no one believes the western media. i mean, when i speak about no one, i mean the general public across the globe. few people have any respect for the western political establish establishment. and the, the people across the world are increasingly seeking alternatives. breaks the shanghai cooperation organization, other regional organizations. these are all being given a boost. the irony is that we all want a ceasefire immediately for the sake of the people of gaza. but the regime and the

regimes that are losing because of the continued genocide are the united states this way, the regime, the brake line, and i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on policy, i'd say, with our to the the, the the

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welcome back across stock, where all the things are considered and peter live elsewhere. man, you were discussing palestine. the okay, let's go back to lionel lionel, you know, we, we, i started out the program talking about and i'm the inability of the, the a by the administration to reflect upon public opinion here. or are they going to continue down the same path? because i think all about this program in our viewers are a bit tired to say the least about it's really difficult anywhere work. we're trying really hard. we're trying the media. i don't believe any of it. i think that's a complete smoke screen. okay. i don't think they by the administration is going to do anything whatsoever to hinder. israel's goals,

which is genocide awaits displacement and they'll just say we did our best and that will be good enough for some people. but i think as a, as our other guests have said that is going to alienate and in a very fundamental way. but as we move forward, lionel to, i have mentioned you before peter, that there is a definition of problem that people have in this country. when you say the word genocide, i am saying look, that is a term of art from the genocide convention. this is about targeting and hold of a part of people i've seen, people have in their minds as world war 2. i've mentioned as cattle cars and the complete elimination of all powers. the news everywhere i. i wish i could somehow change the name. second of all, it's not just buying me the other day though, i saw an interview. you might have seen it as well on online or some platform with, with bernie sanders, bernie sanders, the the, the, the grandfather, the potter familiar us of, of, of the left, just whatever. and he was ask,

what do you, what will you do regarding dig genocide and he should have worked for roget he's sar is he had every version of harper paint, destruction everything up and clothing that number is so one that you as well. i know because my, my segment should be called light from the fish bowl because i live in this world of people who sort of know, but also peter, they don't want to be bothered. but you mentioned the word scientist. i could walk to you right with you to times square, which is a half a mile from here. we got off for a $1000.00 to anybody to define what that means in the context of what's happening now. and they will look at it by virtue of this, this regimentation as it being can amount to, to some type of anti semitic slower. yeah. that you're, you're the big. so this is, this is my problem. i'm, i'm sorry gentlemen, i'm, i'm,

i'm in this master class of every edition. i am from, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the fish full of people who don't understand this. and we also have, if you, there's one more thing you crane to a glowing confuse, people as to where it is on the map, who's who, and the other day 11, peers, morgan, in an interview with john nurse, i am, are, was repeating this world war 2, i mean with it, i'm in a parallel universe. there are people who, who overly complicate and oper scabbing model. i think this is very intentional regarding mohammed and in london. this has been intentionally done here. i mean, i think all of us should start talking about the holocaust and guys that just say it, okay. and if it, if it like people it, well, what then say well, you know what, then you would talk about what that really means. i mean, start educating people, start challenging people, and don't be afraid to say the truth. okay. well,

how many more than one of the problems is what line? well, just brought up a whole word. zine is, i mean, what it's supposed to invoke. i mean, look what happened to one of your, of, of former prime ministers. he was hounded out of office or being anti semitic which, which is absurd on the face of it all. but they use that word in a very, very engineered way to silence people. not to make people think, but to silence them. go head mom and in london you up to the right spot, so like anything that's engineered it has a certain tourism is so the phrase anti semitism is now about to suffer from mental city where it's been so over use and been tabs of shapes of it will it will soon fail in the mines when we speak. and the reason for that is because the i c j, the instructional coach of justice has been accused of being and submitting the un has been accused of being an smith, a being taught and nation nation. those are most recently come out of

a policy which is south africa, has been accused of being as soon as they don't run full heroes in the u. k. who's down against the genocide having coolant semitic. so if you know which will be like guns indicated. um, so if you started in the company, will these grace institutions then that will it has a meeting soon enough? i think that's really where a lot of the sensible and clear minded people of the jewish faith have been very vocal about them issues. yeah. but um, because it actually does cover up for actual services which has existed in europe, particularly it's been a you opinion problem for over a 1000 years. it's not really one that's a later the feature of the, of the arch naziism and send it to the movies. it is called issues that were born in your yes i was, i know things that were in the, in the are the context. but so that being said, i think those people in the jewish will be the spend,

all these rates of who have spent so much time educating us for the whole course days. so these things i shouldn't was least how now actually towards us, we own them. a service of tours is exactly what little cost looks like. and what we see in palestine is exactly what we were told from us going sweetens on programs. i should as list i wouldn't be. oh, great. yeah. so i think, you know, we need to just get pasta rhetoric and remind people of their upbringing. yeah. i think, well, it's good to a town. i think, you know, if they, if they put a gas came here and costs and then people start believing it, i guess maybe that's what house that happened here. you know, well how many that they think of everything is anti semitic? been what is i would say the most anti semitic thing is zine and some yes, i think design is in as anti semitic because they are the ones for how climbing the jewish people, more than anyone else. and thankfully, many young juices it's already pointed out, have become very, very vocal during the past few months. and in fact,

in new york times article that was full of lies about rape and the headings and all that. on october, the 7th day was exposed by uh, uh, a palestinian lead website in the united states. and uh, website led by a jewish uh, friend of your show. so uh there are changes taking place across the board, both internationally, but also locally. and when i mean locally, i mean in the west. uh, i think that as the previous guess, pointed out, these words have been use so much by design this bobby, that they're losing their meaning. and i agree that people, many people in the united states in that bubble still feel that way. but the fact remains that every day we're getting, we're seeing more and more image is coming out of gaza,

a never ending in genocide and never ending holocausts. and people will gradually see the reality, those who don't want to accept reality, never will that. but overwhelmingly people across the world are seeing reality. and what is really resume is doing is that they're cementing this hostility of animosity towards their racism towards the, at the center. this is a and as they are, they are destroying themselves by continuing this. they should be the 1st to push for a cease fire, because all, as i said, although palestinians are being women, and children are being massacred on a daily basis, that there is rain, the regime and its western allies. so what is western allies are being dest? demolish and yeah, because of this genocide across the world, they can never speak about human rights again, make it well over a topic and every month it can never talk about taken seriously. they cannot never

talk about the rules based order anymore. okay? because i have no idea what that means, could get it, but particularly in what we're seeing going on and causing it, you know, line or it's closer to home to you. the new york times again, is in a extremely hot, hot water. this ridiculous story about a systematic rape on october 7th, which has been demolished in israel in the united states and called the great zone there. and now they're looking at who are the co authors of that monstrosity is. and lo and behold, it's a non journalist, and so i wonder workforce really intelligence kind of a embarrassing situation to find yourself in line of embarrassing. if you understand that, by the way, i'm going to steal the line about metal fatigue. that is an a such an apt uh analogy. if i am or i a quote, mcclellan who says that that little, that, that a little lies are very hard to keep secret. but big lies are easy because of our

incredulity. do you know what it would be like if any of you, a gentleman were to stand up and say, you know this rape story is false? what your denying rape? no, no, i'm denying this. what, when a you how you sick? so what happens is if it's a big story, the incredulity of it is a problem there. there's also something which is interesting. the more that we see images and pictures, the more we submit your way to them. peter, remember in our generation, when we 1st heard about me live and it's side hurt, people stopped to see if we didn't even see pictures of the neighbors. we didn't even see pictures, you're absolutely right. yes. we did not understand. we were, but today perhaps by virtue of maybe our secretary medication because of the fact that we've been habituated to this, to this over and over and over or bored. we're just a completely different. maybe our psyche has been affected by some kind of

a social parasite or, or virus, but nobody's reacting to this. and finally gentlemen, what happens is people are told all the time, you don't understand how much is it different or they are, you, you, this isn't a, a symmetric war. they don't have uniforms, they don't have walls. you have to what you might consider to be over a kill is, is perhaps, yeah, but why not, doesn't this really speaker? let me go to mohammed in, in london here. this does really speak to just the deep seated racism within western the lead. so i mean, it's easy to rationalize what's going on here. they are a lesser people. they are brown people that are muslim. i mean it really plays into that. well, the reason why i bring it up is with the same a leads like to talk about their diversity and all of that. i mean, they're hypocrites, to the core, go ahead and london. yeah, i mean there's been

a research study of the idolized the payments that were coming to our lead pacino position late because the from pro is on his own piece. and it turns out that 40 percent overall shut the cabin that have received funding from pro design is still good. nice ations though, in terms of whether there's a deep siege of racism, show that res, there's any study in the west will show a degree of institutional racism across the board in any institution. a more problematic than that re, is, is the issue of being funded by a particular, lo be to have a particular outcome. and i'm sorry i have to jump in here. we have run out of time . absolutely fascinating discussion with all 3 of you. i want to thank my guess in london, new york, and into then, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. and next time, remember to cross that bridge, the

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