the the german military general was it floating through supplying me solves to ukraine on the phone, the crime in bridge, according to in the cold when a spot on a smart phone with us. yeah. hot. it doesn't matter. we need to ensure that from the very beginning, there is no mention that would make us the top of the conflict. jim and media outlets say the leak seems authentic and is being locked on social media in the country. while most go to mount on says phone. so it's obvious that our natal colleagues have a finger in the pipe. i don't know how they will explain this to the public. the thousands flocked to the southern russian territory of serious for the well do use festival. this hosting cable for more than a 100 countries for

a week now give them the missouri one. welcome to you. this is all to international with the latest world news update is good to have you with us as always, our top story. hi, ryan, king german military offices of being called red handed, discussing funds to supply tours cruise missiles to ukraine, and use them to destroy the crime in bridge. the bottom shelf phone conversation was intercepted by russia and released by all teas editor in chief on friday. and also this, i came to the conclusion that there are 2 interesting targets, the bridge in the east and the munition depots above the bridge. and the east is hard to reach. it's a rather small target, but the tourist can do it. the ammunition depots can also be hit. if we consider the bridge, i don't think taurus is enough and we need to have an idea of how it might work.

and for that we need satellite data. i don't know if we can train the ukrainians for such a task in a short time and we are talking about a month what, what a torres attack on the bridge look like from an operational perspective. i can't estimate how quickly the ukrainians will be able to learn how to plan such an action and how quickly integration will occur. but since we are talking about the bridge and military bases, i understand they want to get them as soon as possible. all of these are quite astonishing revelations, very this points to germany's direct involvement in the conflict and ukraine. something which they've gone to great lengths to deny. now, as we've heard in the transcript, that talking about the destruction an attack on the crime being bridge. now this is being a frequent target to all of that. but as you crating on it as west and boxes and germany or the german military officials, discussed the strategic and military impulse,

the importance of such an attack. now by talking about the total dismissal, this is the, the long range missile does. there's been some through the ring from the german jones so i will show us over the supply. but if you remember. busy the german germany has to be pretty much forced into supplying the leper tongues. it came with a great pressure from the united states and now he's coming under pressure a to supply the tourist. me solve that. there's a lot of explaining to do as we understand. but the lady has declined to comment on the accusations they used to about sneaking in some po to and so that nobody notices. and as they discuss about how they going to get the missiles into quite nice indeed, they can get themselves into credit. that's not kind of us. yeah. hot. it doesn't matter. we need to ensure that from the very beginning, there is no mention that would make us part of the conflict. i'm exaggerating a bit, but if we tell the minister now that we plan meetings and we'll drive by call from

poland, so that no one notices that's already participation and we won't do that. they talk about the brett. somehow they managed to get the stone shadow, of course, the british long, wide range resolved into the country. but there was another interesting exchange when it comes to the efforts of this associating the german on forces from direct involving in the conflict. now that i might have had just a moment, i understand what you're talking about. the direct close connection between vehicle and ukraine might concern politicians which could lead to direct involvement in the ukrainian conflict. in that case, it can be said that information exchange will occur through m b, d, yet, and media. and we will send one or 2 of our specialists to for open house and explorer. of course this is coming home, but from a political standpoint it may look different law. the information exchange happens through the manufacturer. it's not related to us. now we've heard about this attempt to travel a by cost repoed so that nobody notices. but they also talk about the information

exchange and they say that this information exchange can take place between ukraine and m, b, d. this is the homes manufacturer, are responsible for developing the tours missile these could, this could take place at the bhutto advice in germany. this is german air force base, but it would take place of the technicians that they talk about bringing them in, which would just disassociate the on forces at, for my information exchange of the satellite images with, which they say can be processed at booge on this, this gives a information about targets and the accuracy range around 3 meters. so this is a kind of information as detailed information that would be needed to carry out a strike on the crime in bridge like token law about the brits on the storm shadow . it was about how they money to use them inside you crying about they spoke about the mounting on at call, particularly they spoke about the f sixteens. they also in the discussion said,

well, this is a slug pro says should show decides. tomorrow that he's going to send these tours missiles, it will take about 8 months for them to be able to be activated because they require lots of training. the ukrainian falls is don't have the skills to nor such such weapons. and it would take time for them to be trained to do so. they also talk about these, the phases of a, perhaps a mistake. if the you find new forces are able to find the tours missile, they talk about a striking kindergarten is now those of us that have been on the grounds in the don't boss and they don't yet for public. i've seen the actually these mistakes are not necessarily mistakes. they seem to happen fairly often. but these, uh, you know, this kind of, this would, i guess disassociate legitimate on forces with um, the direct involved but, but we also heard about possible support on the ground on monday. do you think it

is possible to hope that ukraine will be able to do everything on its own? after all, it is known that there are many people there in civilian clothes who speak with an american accent. so it is quite possible that they will soon be able to use it themselves after all, they have all the satellite images so that we heard the use of the term cutting. now this is an interesting to and then we can be sure that the people on the ground in civilian clothes, with american actions on to new crating on i sightseeing tool. they don't, you know, they don't add to a to see the science of, of ukraine and as was heading to that, that they could actually help with the deployment of not to talk. so we're talking about including on the crime ambridge stays both in terms of the ukraine conflict. will these a new weapon supplies really change anything on the ground? well, that's a great question that an interesting one, because you'll see from these conversations that the germany doesn't want to send a lot of the tours missiles ones which indicates that this really isn't about

winning. this isn't really about victory and ukraine. and the discussion between the ministry leaders shows that it's really, it's simply just germany's term off the britain, the supplied, the storm shadow on phone to supply discount with cells. they actually move into from, if you give 50 pieces, they will be used up very quickly. exactly, but it won't change the course of the work. that's why we don't want to hand them all over and not all at the same time. maybe 50 in the 1st ranch, then maybe there will be another transfer of 50 missiles. that's perfectly understandable, but it's all big politics. i'm guessing what's really behind it. i have learned from my french and british colleagues that in fact, with the storm shadow and scouts, it is the same as with the winchester rifles. they may ask, why should we supply the next batch of missiles because we have already supplied the select germany? do it now? does now a general acceptance even among western leaders that ukraine is losing that account? actually, when this conflict we've seen recently the liberation of the advocate,

we've seen russian at volunteers along the front line. and of course, it comes off the back of ukraine's filed counter offensive, which was back to the hill by the west. and they've seen a lot of the ministry hold, let go, nothing flames on the possible. if it was, i may be a, a kind of a reluctance for this continued supply of but it creates a really, this just looks like an attempt to say, face and attempt at unity. it looks the face of a certain to face the gym and defense ministry as opposed to the investigating the explosive lake. a rush just help them out. so it, a lot of ralph has weighed in saying it's now i'll see is that nato powers are directly involved in the ukraine conflict of those with some of those villages. i mean, this conversation contains several curious things, including a discussion between german generals on how to more cunningly supply ukraine with long range weapons to attack the crime in fridge and, and munition depos,

as well as how to remain unnoticed while doing so. because the chancellor schultz good supposedly doesn't like that stuff. yep. the americans and the brits are already there short. so here at our house, there was also a conversation about whether it was possible to remotely aim those missiles beyond ukraine. but one of the general subjected to that idea saying that such a step would mean their direct participation. so they clearly understand what they are talking about. and one of the exchanges, someone says lovely, that there are americans in civilian clothing on the ground, boots and you put him. so it's obvious that our nato colleagues have a finger in the pie. i don't know how they will explain this to the public. but in has not yes, given any official statements, since the audio tape tape was published on friday. i'll tease editor in chief margarita, so money out, it was the 1st to reveal the common sense of the bold michelle conversation. i don't do gaudy this audio recording speaks for itself just after i published the

1st text about it. there were a lot of skeptics and media outlets called me and wrote to me saying it couldn't be too. but it is, is the real order for german military officers before into the german air force and discussing how to impressions be so crimea, and how many missiles it will take 10 or 20 and how to do so that no one is aware of anything. so the chancellor schultz could continue to claim that he's not involved in the conflict and native does not participate in the conflict. and that it's not in his backyard. they also expose the british and american partners by saying that already working in ukraine, in general, they're all lots of interesting things. be sure to listen. i wonder how the germans will respond to german media, say the leak has apparently been verified as all set and sick and is now being investigated sizing. the sources in the military, as, according to leading outlets like this should be,

go and build. they also say the revelations of being heavily suppressed by jim and also ortiz on social media in the country, and on the power case of damage control russian of foreign ministry spokesman. maria's a, however, has quoted another attempt to conceal the truth. it's cold covering your tracks. is this going to follow the same scenario as the gym and investigation of the terrorist attacks on the node streams? durham and citizens should know from schultz about the rights of a foreign person in russia. bella roost, or china, but not about the german rights. it's only me in the studio now is there for success. press on presidents or be you are a constant international organization, p a. m. on well, it's all my money. thanks for coming in today. it's very nice to see. first of what i'd love to ask for your reaction to the linked military discussion from jimmy about bombing rushes, crime in bridge. well, trying to maintain that

a plausible deniability is very interesting from the jo, particular point of view, especially on the job and positioning in this crisis. or because or in germany as always try to to hide is chip with that real objective. students are still going to go to war when they last a well again, you wish i saw and or evey your. the try to not to up to you are as it could be, jo, rent. we've also need to countries, especially in washington, not done done against the rochester, both in ukraine and or if you look at this league, the information which was a league to read can see about actuality. the already a thinking about is kind of 18 and at the same time to try to hide the, to the, to a public, to us citizens. and so it shouldn't line we,

the position of chapman need not to show it's chart at the objectives or vote a task interest. so the government on you have receive a situation for a long time. the gemini are seen. so, and the village of assess wardwall. we punctual my niece, but also the 2nd world war we've nazi germany. and now you can see if it was a trump piece of joe particular objectives before, but fell short of all the or would you one to 2 week on russia and a control of the west of rush, shock, crow, cry, me out on unpopular ukraine. each was already in the pots, which was in the main of the i, joe, i there, would you fun show minus. so going to or, well, the nosey gemini, to one to 2 on next territory until we're working on, of course on next. and ukraine on crum a and replace you tube german coordinates. no, of course you don't have it. not the jo money anymore. no, no punch,

i'm honest. but john, any student also would like to the controller that ukraine in? no. see no g. read for a washington in the name of what strongly zation, of closer germany as his son to our power of, uh, in europe and union wrecked to expand its markets. so we couldn't rush out because though it is v of a power to contain the power of germany in europe and do it. this is what to do. this lake rebate is supposed to be. they are from my point of view or waiting a co battery, germans like v oval and they to countries except to home got re unstructured but they tried to hide it to a public because so it's difficult for me to, to show it, to its own subject to other countries vivid or so really jump. what is kind of objective, i guess, just hours before the story broke, this leak was revealed,

shows was saying, you know, germany has no intention of getting directly and dragged into the ukraine conflict . and now we have this leak. how do you think germany is going to respond? well? very embarrassed and do it because it was the slick is surety for mike phoned over you. prevent is from a need may be to, to really implement what they were discussing about to, to, to bump the breach or to, to use or tell us me size. uh, but we know, but i'm a mandatory they were discussing about it on they were waiting for a party to come approval or a vis decision. even though if it was a it'd be good breaches. shop were kind of pressure also showing it to the germans to, to accept it so, so far be stuff shorts or refuse it because he knows or is goes against the window of his own book position on which we missing are also in europe. of many countries

being the suspicious of a try, many be coming again. the media, tory power, especially friends or of orval with both as you pull to green against russia, french on germany at different to cut interests. friends who like to was he shouldn't be such as the leader of you may need to arise. you on the so nope altruistic way and you creating to position from competition with joe and eva gemini. as i said, as gilbert, it's carl ship teach to do control. you can take it out of russia bunch and see now g with united states on, on the u rebates or so. but with a sense of panic amount to your be honest because of for the possibility of trump elections on the europe and southern need, we'd feed alone in europe. and this is why gold showing here we had vis. a commented on my cool a few days ago. and bought 2 troops on the ground, do it to reveal to. so for to take our games, we've been friends,

but also i have to be so your pending either on germany refused to say no, there is no way germans, cuz i have to put the troops on the blog because i don't want to front door lead europe how to side comment, look, now, i mean, when mcclung said that there was a possibility of putting native boots on the ground in ukraine. the rest of europe said, well, we're not on board with that. but now we, we have this lee, which shows that gemini hasn't been completely on this tells us that comment look exactly. so it shows up 20 read. we learned about what exp us new week, but they are already some special troops instruct all. so people gave information, review, queen, so as a state, if you had been lying for the last 2 years to, to the citizens about is a question of the red line. or when they put more troops of a must see really i think that they watch because you can see there was no,

there's a fee of your parents to be left out to a for trauma is re elected and 20 the washington strategy for majority of fund of you is so off to using ukraine as a proxy, a good a russia of 20 russia is winning as a, a tool, moments on a new we when mold in my point of view of the or would you wonder wolf my point of view or so we grow but i just use because we change the brakes and it's showing geico power. so i'm not zation on very a and do the stuck on line against a to shoot off though ukraine you, we'd be exhausted of you ever comes to like to put your bands west on your pants on the front and of course on the very retreat, but vis steve of the this side of the great jo, particular objectives like and cycling a you raise your, contain both russia on china and, but you won't be on spade for unreturned. how do i really tell you hardware on put

them at the front? so it's revealing, but to your bands they are, the only can see the event serve as a secondary act or because they don't seem by themselves they own job. but it's kind of objectives on from my point of view of the really the interest to or for us on the or so many other nations is to have stability. and you'll raise your on to, to, to negotiate a news secure which ritchie ranch might not leave russia, not to be divided on on money, protected by washington. when it comes to the topic of hardware, there was some details revealed and the slate about using a french and the sold raphael a fight to jet. so the delivery system for tourist missiles. well i choose a friendship play. know, when do you think powers would potentially agree to this? if, if it should go ahead. what did he say? speak about it to a pleased to be this think it might be a possibility to,

to negotiate with the french, but because it was licked. i think i know it's a big was a ribbon nation, about the discussions. it was not yet it 40 to cut approval of this about to it's not gonna be what cbre to no fault and not least. so to do it an adopt of butter 2 or you the french could use all 5 planes really the overall ukraine to do this type of for the mean it's a reaction because clearly, orville, we are already kobinie jet runs on the lower liver, the delivering width and send on some instruct, also spaced out troops on the wrong. it's really a red line not to cross the we've russia. and the under reaction of must go west very clear, but it's meant a clear escalation. at least we've the question of troops of the wrong and the, using your a how far you always go now drive is a rough,

how to play the overall ukraine on the french can do it. although some of this said it was that, well, i thought it brings to other countries, but the i don't see the possibility but to varies a you can, you can seem unique but to the germans exam mind with different possibilities actually to he was all a hadaway from other countries, the whatever it diesel fred shall be the head hey, by the british o. 4 and over countries to hide themselves behind this action, as i said, because of a one student with a non exclusive joe persaco objective, which is their traditions his since the end of the 2nd order was it's gonna be really interesting to see how the juvenile authorities respond, isn't it many thanks for coming into the studio today. it's lovely to see you do politics, experts and presidents of your constance international organizations get along with

them on monday. thanks. thank you. be well use festival has kicks off in the southern russian federal territory of serious on the black sea coast. around 20000 people from level 100 countries are expected to attend with bringing you all special coverage all of the week long defense the hello. yeah. we heard from some of the enthusiastic festival go is the arrived at the international appleton salty. this is my to show. so i am and in many ways

and it looks like a cool opportunity to meet people from all around the world. i think participants are coming from around a 182 countries or something like this. so i've never had an opportunity to potentially talk to people from everywhere in the world, in the span of a week. so that's why i'm here. it's a very read on that and a few minutes for me to be part of this. ask you a lot and i'm so happy that i got to set an opportunity to be here. and i'm going to run the boat in so many days. and i'm so happy to be that i shouldn't be, but then there was for the, the fine how they have, you know, even this saxophones to come to us. and in fact, we do on what sources offering use from different countries. this go tools event is very important to understand which other to know what really russia is, what 3 other cultures are. not just believe what may be mainstream media says, we have a real chance here to learn more about the restaurant to learn more about other countries than the current world infinity for century. it's really important to

talk to being hatchery to other cultures to come from people are all around the world. and i think this is a perfect chance to, for young people to get to know each other and to build bridges that will help them in the future. to understand each other better, we're so happy to be here to participate on that. well, you festival 2024. and also we only have to say the same as rush have for this participation. and of course we have to say venezuela, the good lives now to all correspond to it and don't quote. c who's at the scene done great to see. so how things looking the sofa of the wall nicki the world use festival is now under way. um, around the 20000 people are participating here from around russia and other places

in the world. also, as we just saw from those interviews with the participants arriving, there are many different people here representing many different cultures, many different backgrounds. and we're actually lucky enough now to be joined live by a very special guest. his name is due to the, to a, he's a musician, a multi percussionist from india. i do to, thanks a lot for joining us on the program. can you just tell us a little bit about why you decided to put in an application to come to this event, why it's important to you. so the indian embassy reached out to us to join the festival. first, what i'd like to time that you guard woodman foundation for sponsoring district. i'm essentially a drum over the get dr. jo gourd size. we're really fortunate that we're able to, he present music and jazz as a unit was in the form of music. we have got our own interpretation of some of the standard compositions. i'm really looking forward to musicians from other countries taking part in this. i'll get up now. uh will you be joining mr. buckman for the

main presentation. so just this influx of, in a defendant to patients of the same music, a compositions. i mean, i'm really excited to be a lot of that. and what are some things you've seen here so far that we're really unique to you is, is it your 1st time in russia? yeah, it's the 1st time i am in the restaurant, but i've been fortunate enough to interact with a lot of freshman musicians in my time in india, i've been lucky to play with them. i'm one thing i've really been inspired by and like that's something that i noticed right from the get go when i ended the flight to ratio. like seeing little kids studying piano on their i ipads and like that's a fine activity. i'm. uh yeah, music is a huge part of that. i shouldn't go to. and i'm just like, yeah, i'm just looking forward to be exploring this more. i'm like, yeah, i'm and there's some things you notice about like russian culture, when you 1st came here, the over maybe the russian food that you found unique or interesting, a lot of putting a lot of for the i'm the one thing that uh yeah,

i've just been to do ahead and a small incident that like right from doing the uh and the flight uh to the route books, the crosswords, the crossroads at the roadside. like a very basically in society like everyone like is very, very cautious of minding everyone space and like, yeah, that was like the biggest shock for me up to now like god stopping it depends on 100 meters, looking at people crossing that road and what kind of future, do you see for, for, you know, cooperation specifically in the, in the musical sphere between indian musicians and russian musicians. how do you see that developing in the future of so i've been spawns, like we've been sponsored by the guard bookman foundation. and the government has been visiting india for the last 10 years, like every few years, like you would have some performances. and when i was a kid, like i was lucky enough to catch mr. buckman playing and daily. so that was my 1st introduction to him. i like today being had like being sponsored by his foundation

and microsoft. we're getting to play with him at the main stage. i mean, that's the, that's the. yeah. the biggest thing for me up to now. well, great, thank you very much for joining us. the details, it's a really interesting perspective. as you can see everyone, i mean, there's a lot of different people here with different contributions they can make to strengthening friendship between peoples all around the multi puller world. those very interesting but he, thanks for that done. that was all he's going to cause the interviewing due to a musician of from in the other 2nd part of course, in the wild youth festival in the southern russian territory of serious many thanks, dawn come wait to see what else you have in store for a while coming up next on the international after my time, see what the next step is sort of going on the ground and thank you for your company. this such they have to down in the great weekends and hope that was more news. it says to minutes, see you then the

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