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the hello and welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter live out . the by ministration has words and only words and contradictory words. at that when it comes to a cease fire, we are told a must enter 1000 at the same time, arms quote, and to israel to hinder the same 8 the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guest line or in new york. he is a legal in media analyst, and in london we have a real consent that he is the founder of a k consulting and a foreign affairs analyst, or a gentleman crosstalk rules, in effect, that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate line and let me go to you 1st. so you've been very kind to be my 1st chair for a many months now. that's how long this conflict has been going on. it's not really

a conflict, it's really kind of one sided. it's a military against civilians, at least that's how i read it. the civilians, mostly women and children. my question to you a line or are you surprised the joe biden is accomplished with? no other president in american history has been able to achieve. he is basically essentially got the entire world to have loathing for the united states for it's in action and action actions when it comes to guys of your thoughts. my friend, well, a couple of things. first i, i told you that before that my, my guess my contribution should be apparent that would be called a view from the fish ball. now what you're saying is most appropriate around the world. however, in the united states, in my country, nobody knows anything of about this. they know more about ukraine, then this i must start off with. i think the most pivotal of news that i'm seeing this week. apparently, you know, peter, we, we, we have this thing called the n word. we all know what that is,

but we acknowledge what the n is. there is a g word here, there's genocide and nobody will even, oh, crap. so made recently a o. c. alexandria across you, a cortez was as one of the most liberal members of the most liberal progressive factions of the american congress was as well. you acknowledge this as being genocide, and you would have thought, 1st of all, it wasn't that she refused to recognize the terms that she's know what it was. this is, this is where we are. i just want to say something very quickly as a lawyer to particular to particular acts act or acts that target a national ethnic, racial, religious group. that's number one. number 2 actor acts that seek to destroy all or part of it. one of the reasons why a lot of countries in particular, not just us hate,

this is that the we're definition of war often times involves this. so if we become too familiar with this term, if we become to facile, if you will, with the application of genocide, it's going to apply elsewhere. so you have a multi kind of a definitional war going on here. and that i think is one of the critical aspects, but yet that volume is turned up daily here in the us all. while it's very interesting that you say that because the title of this program is merger and god. so my original title was normalizing. got a genocide, exact reason the your have presented to our audience here comes on say let me go to you in london. is it any better in the u. k? can you say the g word a lot really? um, as we can see um uh with the um victory of uh mr. george galloway. that took place last week. uh about 5 minutes. the receipts and i can

quite extraordinary amount of uh, suitcase way too. i gave a speech in the from the a number 10 by 10 of them named george galloway full and you know, instigating divisions in the country uh bought really bought the victory of mr. galloway says, is that the, the people, the majority of the people not only most, that's because the tory party is trying to put tray business, right. as a, uh, as a movement company we have to bear in mind the impala sign people are also christian. yes. and the menu occasions the uh, charges impala is fine with us being the charges in the west to raise the voice and call them well, the is released duty. but here in the u. k. a. and i have to say, i'm sorry for being just splunk about it, that is really lovely. and these documents in the government in the media is trying to put tray. i mean to, to paint this conflict as

a miserable backlash. the gays be stopped to school. because the labor party, uh that you know, uh, was out my knew that by the judge graduated in rock stale that goal. so conservative. not because the moose lives voting in this way because the majority of the people was sweeping and going through the streets in practice, useful process, the games, what they see against the g one, which is general 5 uh, highly concerned. and it is, it is, you know, striking to me that most of the authority part team members can say or do anything about it. they don't even mention the fact that it is not only about that listening population about close, about the christian and as they are refraining from any words of condemnation poets is wrote. so what does it say about the condition of the democracy about the travers values in the west of human rights,

and even when most of the right wing has been conservative. so i used to hold in the great esteem up being pro life and being christian with way of this, you know, a christian and for life values being applied equally to each and every person. yes, absolutely wrong to you. it's painfully obvious what they're doing here. they're hypocrites, okay, that's what they are. you know, line or about bernie sandra said, if i remember quite, he felt uncomfortable about using the word well, we should all be along comfortable about it. okay. if we just stop it. all right, that's what's really pathetic about lytle moving on, and i'm sure you saw it on the news with great fanfare. the bye didn't ministration ordered a dropping of aide over gaza? what? 333000 prepared meals. and i saw that and i felt ashamed and horrified line of so 1st i, i, i looked at this, i'm thinking,

does this look like we're helping or that we're trying to creep past the barricades . we're, we're going to be dropping. what drones next? like a pizza. delivery year, i mean this is, this is, this is the way we this is um, yeah, of adult delivering help. i, i've got to ask something, the hardest part, by the way, about your show peter, is it listening to this thinking? 50 different issues every time one of your learned guys said something. first of all, look at what, why this, this particular issue is so different to americans. number one that deals with the, the nation of israel, nick nation state, the state of israel. it deals a little bit there. i say, with religion, this really isn't about religion. no, it's about it's, it's about what's right and wrong and, and who and the browser and people that are being more press. that's the, that's the sure to that. go ahead. but it, but i'm explaining the mindset. so a lot of americans say, oh there go those crazy

b as we've been told in the longest time, then when it comes to, especially the arab muslim terrorist kind of an interplay. yeah. these people are living in the 4th century, and there they go again. and then there's this idea of the o. well, that's the way it is. and they're americans don't know the level of involvement that we are in ukraine is one thing because the word billy enjoy there because there's a money aspect to it. and just look at the case of aaron bush now, not to bring that up again. but america has looked at that and were told by people basically in what used to be called to me for media all, some lunatic, you know, crazy suicide. so americans look at this, is that, well not, not boys will be boys, but you know, how they are there. what are you going to do? and that's it. and they move on. they have no idea of the complexity of this. i keep telling people, do you think that the, that's a troubles in ireland or between catholics and protestants?

don't want that. that's the name you gave. it was about land. it was about sovereignty was about right and wrong. it was like human. that for some reason his blood brain barrier has not been traversed. well, i know, but why? no, but that's, that's all intentional. i mean, you and i grew up in the be the israel palestine. the issue was never can. and contextualized because we on yours. that's what we were fed. that was the line and it's still there actually. i real. i think it's a bit different though in the u. k. i'm glad you brought up the election of galloway because you do have different well very you have communities in the u. k. that feel very, very strongly about this issue. and guys are in the united states, you could have michigan and you have other states within the u. k, there's a higher intensity. go ahead in london up. indeed it is a higher intensity, but i wouldn't say that it is only associated with the muslim population. i mean i'm, i'm quite disappointed that mr. nigel for us. uh, painted this as a, as a, as

a listening problem. and um, but it is not also most of the right wing circle, right. mean, come and say, just try to put trade is as a, as a what as a gesture of what will kase know, many conservatives and christians, whom i know i outraged and will be outrage if it would happen somewhere else. this is about humanity and dignity, and if i am on the personal of, of you know what i mean i, i believe i'm the person who believe in god and i'm not ashamed or afraid to say it out, apply this me equally. but if we try to, uh, only for the political games, because most of the parties, i mean, this is a, we living in a call to plot the system. it is a call to pop the system. what, which of this part is us, you know, not the chevy the, the resources not competing for the resources and at the same amount of the effect would be conspiring to protect the collective interest. so going back to george galloway,

he just the voice the sentiment within the broad spectrum of many communities. and that's why they're outrageous and huge backlash both from the left and from the right. yeah. so if you can see a backlash coming from each and every angle, this mind has to say something, you know, which is good, which is. ready if he's being attacked by the government, i mean what you do, it is just the marginal player easily in the last uh, west part of england. but how it comes that the prime minister feels cold. yeah, yes. but do you know what i mean? right, before we go to the brain here, you're absolutely right. it's, you know, but because most of us in the ellipse don't want to recognize it, most of us are politically homeless. that's why george galloway happened last week . so as most people feel politically homeless and marginalized gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break,

we'll continue our discussion on palestine state with our case the the of

the welcome back to the cross poplar. all things are considered. i'm peter about your mind. you were discussing palestine the okay, it's go back to lionel in new york. i, i know that most of the main stream legacy corporate, well you know, you and i've argued about the term over the years, but it's all intentionally dumb down by dumb people, expecting their audience to be dumber than they are, which they are not. ok. as i said at the end of the 1st part of our program, most people are alienated by the leads, the rule over them. and i don't care what party it is. i mean,

i have just as much as loading for the main parties in the united states. and the same thing in the u. k. and i, the george galloway is a wonderful breath of fresh air, but he's one man, but who knows your mind? well, you know, looking at the media in the united states, you know, but let's bring up like cnn. you know, in and is really invasion of bravo would be a catastrophe. well yeah, it would be. but why? why isn't something being done to stop and say, that's what i find so revolting is that they show us set aside in real time. but we're all help was israel's us offering country? well, since when is the united states respected the sovereignty of foreign countries line? oh, you know, peter, you made a great term about being politically homeless. i've used my, the term of political atheist and as balls x that i always tell people i'm with the opposition, whoever, who are on with the opposition. but i want to add a new concept, but i asked my, my friends and colleagues, think of yourself isn't being politically instrument rated. you're

a pilot. i'm looking at this. i don't know, party a country a is doing this. i don't know who it is. could be friends, could be whatever to this group. don't know who this is and i'm saying, oh, that's terrible. that is let me see. what are you doing? yeah, that's genocide under the laws. ok, you then look up the, the oh my god, it's israel forget what i said. i changed my mind because i'm telling people if this were a friends, no problem at this low russia, no problem. it's the selective outrage and peter, you and i are from the generation where we were we, i, our left and right. we're pretty defined. yep. you know, last was out, you know, was, as you war and i, we saw myself. it's kind of be like the product, a big old thomas jefferson liberal, but i didn't change the parties change. they say right, exactly. they, we, i haven't left anything they left me or some is precisely,

it's like the left right paradigm is an illusion. it's 2 sides of the same coin. and now for reason i do not understand and i can grasp this. why is this so different? and what happens is, you know, what happens if you already use that use up between the old age. if you said the said something negative, you would be a conspiracy. there is, and you were not nicole, and that's what they're gonna lay on your gallery. he's not, they're going to pull back everything he's ever said in a thought in a tweet and a message. and they're going to portray him as this hat wearing alone, a tech who represents this friend watch what happens. i mean, did script. uh, that's a really good point. i mean, i saw a is go back to our guest in london. i real, i mean, you know, i, i saw the, the after election interview with this. i think maybe it was a sky person. i'm not sure. i think it's gone by a real. i think it's like take 20000000 views right now. um, you know, i've been called all sorts of names. you know what i don't care anymore. i don't

know because the people that call me names i have no respect for so i don't care what they have to say. and george galloway, i mean, you know, he's got a very big scan and he's actually very, very smart. and he's one of the last of his generation that can actually speak to a public and a coherent and put pleasing way. i love listening to him, but you know, they, they're going to do everything they can to attack of. and so what ed will go ahead? yes, that's true. i mean, as i, as i said before, i mean it's, is, is a concentration of an attack from both sides. but what to say about that? i mean, i don't want to, you know, um, uh, some, you know, that's very prophetic here. but i think that george got away is the last hope for this country. uh, when it comes to uh, gathering people from all sorts of spectrum,

from the true light from the true left who deeply care about the full full, the values that this country supposed to be representing. and this station supposed to be representing to uh, upheld the sofa west and bothers. yeah. i mean the christian and western bodies and i do not believe in the labeling anymore. george got away as the left is because if you look at what he's saying, i mean he's easy from day one. he was pro breaks it. he believes in strong family. he lowes who, who, who the real woman is. so he doesn't have this. what would you be the agenda in his mind, and he believes in strong communities and he's a games, you know, grooming dikes a which us, you know, in some part of the country are doing around this things to do to, to dig through to the young goals so i do believe that he might be a part that will chat is spot something bigger and i, oh, well i the about the left and right. this is know what,

what is there not to like what you just said? well what's, what's not like the like i, i don't get it, you know, line all i, i know george galloway, i've met him a number of times. he's been on this program and number of times i've been in his podcast. he's been on my pod gas and i'll spell it out. he's socially conservative . so my okay, economically, you know, he's conservative and so in social values, guy and cultural values and he believes the state should be able to serve the people. i don't know what's hard to understand about that, okay. but if you don't get on the, the work agenda or the culture wars, then you, then you're put into a box. he refuses to do that. i refused to do that. i know you live alone. and if you refuse, they have that done, i think as well as well. and i think that's why people watch this program line. oh, well peter, there you go again. and so using logic, you know, thinking there you go, you just never learn, do you, you don't remember what happened. there is the, the, the upon them is, i guess when you been finkelstein,

remember this guy who basically was ground into pumice, they didn't even exist. and then all of a sudden i, i told a friend of mine lovingly he's like herpes, he just flares up again just like i thought we took care of that. here we comes, you know, every time there's an argument, every time there's something like this, these are beta tests. these are the opposition to see what can we do that works. because like sometimes back, you know, we become bacteria resistant or anybody added resistance. every time this happens and we don't fight back as to the truth, not just sides, but as with the truth, then the opposition, whatever that is, become stronger and more resilient. and every time something like this happens. remember, our mainstream media gentlemen are, are, are dying. you're hanging on by a thread and they're going to do nothing to in any way. sacrifice, what's left left of corporate support. so they're going to be re peters, not reporters,

and proxies for whoever's in charge. so let's just move them out of the way. but what we're seeing is a complete and total, and i hope extinction of this left right paradigm because this doesn't exist. i told you before, peter, that i've got a friend of mine who are prototypical left is upper west side. jews who now have to go to the fox knows to find some kind of silas, and they've got the left, like rachel, mabel, and others who want to go a war to war with everybody that you wait a minute. have i been in a fog? i'm from the 6 piece. who are these people? well, when did you have a title? i think is what it gets down to. i agree with you that i've given up on this left right paradigm a long time ago. doesn't make any sense. me intentionally tries to divide people, which i refused to do that when jimmy door and tucker carlson can sit down and have a great conversation. that gives me a little bit of hope. ok, but you know, it's all about the donors. they are the ones that determines the message and the narrative, and we have to get away from that very,

very difficult. that's why we have to have people like george galloway and even norman finkelstein. i'd, well, what are you mentioned? something i think is really interesting is that in, in western media, legacy media, they try to put trade. this is some kind of civilizational bore a, you know, we're civilized and then everyone else, or both of our barry until the burrell thing here. but what you said is absolutely right, if it's all about that, and we're the ones that are the barbarians, the west, the, the, we all, yes, because we have been desensitized by the, by the media who as a right me or the commentator said, uh is uh, you know, uh, peddling the and working in the interest not of the public bought all of the donors or, and supporters and stakeholders. so unfortunately, the site, the society has been defensive. i but,

but something like the victory of george galloway is given. if this is a wake up call, full full for existence of many people from different spectrums from political are faithful left this most right, wingers for people who truly cat to not lose our soul and sanity. because it is all about, you know, being made in, in any shape or form. as you've mentioned. i, i really appreciate when people from different pop, you know, spectrum political spectrums can sit down and have a discussion. this is, this is all about the society and the cohesion because otherwise we will be just devices in room. this is what the people, especially me here, the, i'm elected, prime minister, reach you soon. i did by firing a short a of george got away with the speech. this he is, the divide to not judge got away, but because the judge got away is the person who was trying to bring people from

all spectrums to fight for the country and fight for what is right. and i'm with him. yeah. so, you know, you know, you know, like, oh, i could remember a few years ago i had a guest on, she was a democrat and she's like, she and she was, you know, she's all about diversity. were all about diversity and i replied to her. and she had no answer for me. i said, well, what about unity? yes. for a quality, you know, there, there needs to be something right now and gentlemen, i don't want to be a, uh, cassandra, or i guess a false prophet or, or bad news bears. but let's see what happens for those people who come up to support george galloway. this is you need an i am spartacus moment right now. if he is this loan loyce, this radical who comes forward and they say, oh, isn't that pleasure? or you have people in the u. k. petrified to day or even even not in agreement.

then all of this is for not that will do nothing again but toughen the resistance. and our and the gentleman had a very good point. we have become not only desensitize, we have been habituated and condition not only to look the other way or, or not to react to violence. but we have this almost like this, this political or this of a guy is a fatigue. and i hate to say, you know, if you're, there's something to that line or unfortunately there is something to that. and i, and it's something that we'll probably talk about next week, but we'll end on this positive note. these people in power are petrified. that's a good 1st step. we know we're going in the right direction as all the time. we have a fascinating discussion. i want to thank my guess in new york and in london. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember, prospect rolls, the

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