instead of the past 2 years, including the leader of keeps the oldest monastery, ukrainian parliament is now preparing to build to bind the traditional church and replace it offensively with they politically based organization known as the orthodox church, all ukraine. my colleague mike a quarter, i got reaction from a dublin base journalist that jason michael who compelled kids clocks down on the church to the actions of a notorious 20th century regime in the whole. what does this say about the state of the country itself? it says that its model, li modems and very similar to the process that we saw happen. ready the some device in germany, in the 19 se, an effort to buy the states to suppress commandeer at court uncontrolled with church as in an as an independent voice of critique of the state. this we have seen happen again here in ukraine with an effort to fill classical roles and possessions

in the church with right wing extreme nationalist voices. and yes, the evidence is there, i'm has been there for a very long time. but the, as all ven, particular has demonstrated extreme right wing leanings and is a duty. it's a moral obligation of the church to speak truth and to condemn this as an extremely dangerous ideology. we are seeing very similar things happen in palestine at the moment. we see some of the most historic churches in the world being destroyed by the united states all lie in them. at least i'm religion and religious institutions, particularly when the co opted by the state have become strategic then assets to west of the military power, which has shown itself to be quite aggressive and expansionist it. and the actually part of the,

the 21st century is coming away. next we join show and tom is on his travels across russia and the latest episode of inland visions of his that was more than 30 minutes. thanks for watching the and your tweets your offering free decide these old policy sports together, strip me again for see on the stand of. so i've actually got concerning this issue . now. when do you think we should expect the conflict the and on when we, when i was going to see the 1st results all the area, i see j meeting. well, we would like to see the consumer end as soon as possible. we would live to see is royal, comply with the provisional measures that have been ordered by the court. that is

why was going back to the cards to us for this threatening off of those orders so that we prevent what is now getting matching as a segment crisis, with a lot of people of projected to die from starvation. we would live to see the association of hostilities. we would live to see the opening of humanitarian corridors to those who i need off of a few minutes are and 8. that is why we were always as a country. and this is something president. remo 4, so we'll continue to tell us to use every legal means of instrument to ensure that we see an end to the genocide that's currently taking place in guys that we see and to the broad to punishment. and the team of, of people who are seeking aid like this. so recently in russia now the

us has continued to support these roles since the beginning of the conflict is likely to change the us of africa relations. given that your country opposes us box is ready actions. we have a very strategic political and trade relationship with the united states. within the context of that close political interest relationship. they ease in appreciation that we defy on the number of issues. one of them is the issue concerning the punish didn't ends as, as you particularly rated, we in engagement and in discuss ongoing discussions, ways of various counterparts within the united states. and we will continue to do so. um, the teachings that the president boston really fast to uh,

follow up president nelson mandela knows that and coverage, ongoing dialogue and engagement and with those that you disagree with the most. and so within the context of that political and trade partnership with the united states, we will continue to voice our displeasure and our discomfort ways and the stage of his role and his behavior towards the front of students. and to do so in a constructive manner, in a robust manner within the confines of the partnership and the trades relationship that we have with united states. now, how do you assess the media coverage? all the conflict in the gaza strip? what are your main problems that you see if you to see any, because it seems that the narrative that is in for licensing of a play as outside of the mid least start as we can see. but let me hear your view

on this as well. you, you do have obviously a quite a concentration of focus of boston media globally with respect to developments in the middle east, particularly where it has been happening. and guys that you do have some international media outlets, particularly worse than outlets that has chosen to present ad to present as sort of some more school is riley perspectives in the coverage and you've also, it has lows, a particular the media houses that originated from parts of the middle east and other parts of the world that have chosen to be balanced in the coverage as well as for trail also that conflicts. and that has allowed people around the world to then

have the ability to inform the views and to inform distance with respect to what is happening on the ground in, in, in further study, we noticed that when we presented our arguments in the 1st obligation that we made to the international courts of justice. some of the most prominent global most in media outlets chose not to provide coverage and live coverage of that presentation to, to the court. and we observed that the next day when these world presented it's adams. and they will have floated low to a low coverage you to lot. and so those are some of the biases that 2 votes that at the end of the day, each media house as a,

his own brides and longitude to detect. and it's a total of decisions and to 10 main was perspectives for trade. decision you observed that and that kind of treatment that is given to that part of city and story, particularly 5 worsted media housings is not to say a treatment that you see elsewhere. where these, where they these past conflicts, they, as a media houses referred to better, for example, on the coverage that they provided related to some incidents that are less just taking place in kaiser and, and there's the results of those biases. so we are encouraged to go to the lives of 20. 22 ad reflects the situation, entities on the ground,

disturbing and painful as it is. we still have those cottages, journalist, men and women of the news room that are committed in relating the truth and in the name, the facts as they are with respect to what is at a ride. that is still talking get by the media because this is really very critical to understanding what the opinion and understanding what the issues really on the spot of what we have been trying to lay back for the world to see even in now coverage archie coverage. all of this issues wall to wall, like, like you said about still talking about the media. why in your opinion are a number of advocate in crisis. which of more suzette consequences done the ukranian one ignored by the western media, while the ukrainian prizes is on the front pages. now the, there are issues and so down the issues in somalia, the central african republic,

the co go even the ones that molly and so one how does the advocate and public react to such west and disregard as well? so for the longest time, um listen, media outlets have a search to portray the advertising content and in a negative. and kind of stereotypical man. when he made use of covert she hung uh, and as, as well as general perceptions of the inability to gather and effectively portrayed as best as the sort of override in defining. so you choose, falls, falls north of the african funding assessment. typical by the time number o, as in a math class, we kids has thoughts to push backs of games that portrayal of all supposed to come

to an end add search to tentative age and a lot of positive uh features as well as developments that are taking place on, on the african continent and with most of that resides and the coverage that we've seen. and so i moved to the west and media houses at lex, the appreciation of the complexities on the ground. and also in those complexities, you'll find behind or the close of some of the conflicts and the challenges that, that lead face from the content. and i guess this is going to be an ongoing task. and the ongoing challenge that as africans, we will continuously confront and work on to change them. and then we try to

content that and is portrayed where these conflicts always ensure that that conflict is presented in a box man. so that's all sides to that. the conflicts i presented, but also that days, appreciation of the complexity and the issues behind that continued. so now that the countries on the continent that are being remarkably well, some of those countries have come out of a history of conflict and, and they've pulled themselves out of that history. and they've led, if you like the development of the own people. and that has an image that has an impact on regional communities across across the continent. and we would like to see more of that portrayal of the african continent as a growing, advancing continental continental that increasingly has embrace democracy and

democratic principles. a content and said over time that showed a strong ability to govern itself and able to add resolve as phone issues. that's that kind of for training, we would like to see posts for far continent and what is encouraging is the emergence of various phone line platforms. that is allowed people to, to raise the old stories that is allowed 2 people to read, present themselves into the phone communities into various sections where they operate and, and that's largely advanced to the imagines of the various digital and on demand channels that allows people to be able to share the content from the hospitals to their neighborhoods and to the countries as old. and so that has created a diversity of, of content that can be consumed above the content that is

a lot more positive than what we've seen right now. today we, we, we see how in the countries of africa as to how redone the number of western media outlets are being shut down, which according to local authorities spread towers propaganda. now where should we look for the line between freedom of speech and protective national security? yes, it's a um, it's a very um, um, cheap abundance to 2 men to buy this one that stuff and guided by each country is constitutional principles. i guess if i just sort of slides on my own country, so i'd ask because the constitution guarantees of freedom of expression that on to use the media and as well as access to, to information. we have

a very robust and very engaging and media. so to web, from the president to officials to business need is no, it is a problem, is about a new formal school to needs all producing for, for that matter. and that's something that we accept to be part of our democracy to be pods false while consist no democracy or democratic features if you like. and that's something that we appreciate as part of a growing and evolving democracy. some other countries will say different p uh, based on, you know, the kind of constitutional guidelines that they have. and basically generally up to standards will feed, you have a society that's bolted that can engage openly. that can and gauge weight uh,

criticism as much as it engages where it's positive issues that and reflects the performance of government and that reflects the leadership off of government. all right, you spoke earlier about the way western media covers the african continent and how, assuming by us this is always waved into the story lines and all of that. but basically, if, if the story has to change as to the new rules of engagement, what do you say needs to be done for that to change as well? we have to continue um, advocating full full furnace. we have to continue pushing the boundaries with respect to how we, as africans reflected in various global platforms, we have to continue adding the voice with respect to positive developments that

we're seeing on our continent. and we have to continue celebrating that humans and the advisements that we're witnessing across the continent. we cannot allow us else to this false, to forwarded lined into a narrative that does not aid also porch or enable the attainment of us. the ration is continental in individual countries across the continent. for example, um you have the recent adoption of the after the free trade agreement, which is going to be a major post to a number of for 10 and calling them is that outrage of signatures uh to the past to that's a very positive development. it all goes well for us, we can, you can amazed for domestic businesses just as it is positive for,

for direct investments as well as international investors that are due to the different types of profile content. and that's something we have to continuously talk about for dean was to celebrate. and something that we have a very strong conviction that it will deliver the envisage economic benefits to millions and hundreds of millions of people and young people in the continental. and it will leads to the industrialization of coding. and so those kinds of developments i was talking about over and over and over and okay. and what time we will be able to, to change those negative perceptions about our continents as we continue to subsets to build resilient and sustainable equipment. all right, we're talking about mutually productive, all beneficial, a alliances, to what extent of african news outlets involved in cooperation with russia and

media on some of this issues. that means so much to south africa address of africans. well, generally they the levels of cooperation across the board, not just with russian media. they, they levels of cooperation with chinese media, for example, with the russian media. and they, uh, engage meds with some media houses in, in, in the middle east. my clinics in the media can give you more details than i'm able to gauge, but that is part and paso, for what we call cultural exchanges. people to people exchanges, as well as institutional changes that we had coverage through the execution of uh for and policy. where we seek to build strong the bones of ways, our global trade and political partners. and it's something that we will continue

to to encourage it offers opportunities for skills, acquisitions, and open bid offers opportunities for strategic partners sheets, as well as various commercial facilities that include the accessible open up as a result of those exchanges. and we'll continue to encourage those exchanges. all right, now, recently, many african media outlets have been trying to focus on the war with a sedan which has been forgotten in the western media. how do you assess the interest. busy of the african public in topics that are not raised in the western media. the fight against new colonialism, for instance, the position of a climate agenda by the west. as well as coverage of local law for getting conflicts and he, many to, and prices a. well, we have a own media houses in enough it, uh we, we do loves as a note how was that media houses also and reflects our issues and also in projects

and various developments that take place in the continent. but it's equally important for me to stress that we have our own home grown media companies. uh, that's kind of the continental to extensively platforms like radio for example, still remain very popular. and they still reach have a lot of people in edward centers in rural areas. and so we're not always concerned about how west and media houses that are flags paso project asked, because we do have our own channels, where we are able to exchange information, provide information, consume information, and be able to share perspective and views. and so we very much get in touch with the continent and we're not necessarily dependent on west and media houses to tell

us about assets. we know a story, we knew our sales and in the conflicts that you left friends. not all know interested in the past. following and those conflicts, but they can't relax. so that's what guys involved in, in supporting dialed in supporting for measures that can be ports in place to ensure that those conflicts that come to an end recently present from a closer match was one of the leading parties in incidental, which is the 2nd meeting. and they'll be future and fed and gauge meant that that, that he will have with various little players add to that conflict as you will know . so that's we could, is quite involved in, in bed pursuing a peaceful and to the consumer to the dfcs. we'll see in know

that most of the big where was contributed at soups to the side, at 1st quote in the dfcs engine, mozambique. so for me, so that's a good perspective. we quite engage with the quote. and so what western media houses say or not say it is not a major concern to us. what is important to us is that you are able as a continent to pull mormillo correlative means the end result is to ensure that the we assist will cease. the country is in private countries with processes and other enabled meant to come out of those devastating countries so that we can save lives so that we can develop economies and we can advance as a continent. all right, share with us here. does the south africa prohibit some media outlets and, and besides that, how do you assess the policy of the

e u and the united states with a band? it's a national media like r t and all the russian media outlets. how does that fit with the west? suppose a desire to protect freedom of speech? what's your assessment as well? so i sort of design as a consistent or principle it's, it's in the constitution and it's imbedded in the constitution. and that will go as far as saying it's even embedded in now. so side, so dna and so, so that's it. so we're not a band. and the media house, it would be our games, the prescript small for our constitution to do so. and so that's the kind of practice that we do not engage in. it is unfortunate that some countries in the region of blogs have decided to do that. obviously, if is that we will always be open to engaging in with those that are critical to us, to engaging in with those with disagree with. and that is

a fundamental principle that informs our constitutional democracy. and so we, we find it unfortunate that the media outlets that up and in some instances and in some other parts of the world just as was find it quite important to see general is being killed in demand. know that they've been killed in this conflict to gaza, to see the man as a general, his time to me data and then they prevented to do the work. that's because that's something that close up gains um upgrade as a nation and goes against our own constitutional principles. as i've said with believe in, been ongoing engagement and dialed in with those that disagree with us. and even with those that are critical of cases and, and so the banning of a media house does not contribute to does not contribute to their wide

understanding of issues. it does not provide for diverse said to voices on an ag shoot or matches. and, and this limit to, in terms of the perspectives that, that i should it, so the lease is bad. and the media anywhere in the world needs to be allowed to both are age to express itself as freely as possible. so as to allow that diverse search of views and, and to afford people as much choice as possible to a wide range of information. all right, now, how do you assess the 5 by some provide as in south africa had stopped showing the r t news channel for instance, as well. the reason has to do with um, you know, commercial interest and, and how and those commercial interest tied to with interest

outside of philadelphia get. and as well as a shareholder dynamics that, that, that could be, that qu, bed plays, as i said, it is unfortunate is that for example, your channel is no longer available, all 18 by 10, and a. so that's a good company that, that carried a huge, i know, we will have to said that you each other still available. so that in the public has that diverse sets of voices and, and then the divest sets of content that they can choose. it is rather unfortunate that that's been the past, but to also understand that they may have been some of the commercial interest that it play, that is put price or end of let's to, to, to that decision the,

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