years to get different opinions devoted young. he believes that if religious mentors fee are losing their children to the secular world, so they should reconsider their approach to education. so i'll tell you another thing that i would never say it's on these when you see me 18 years or even 20 years, you'll pitching the children through the study to kick somebody to be religious. and i'm the list of those 20 though. i'm a lot of the 20 is. he's a big boy. he's going to go to the idea of what in 10 minutes he's going to fall. and what's the value of funding for 20 you to let me? you see both of 20 you sweet to me that the way you be a teaching um, the way he was educated was, was the whole a to community and they don't educate their children. they trained them. they, it's like a dog. you will take a dog and tell them what to do. i mean, does it is a lot of families doing. and once they leave the front of the, from the way to, to see the community. there are ready men in the army despite we and exempted from the draft. they still can enroll the 1st 10 weeks of the war. so

a real boom and at least went with 2000 ultra orthodox men seeking to join the forces. double the usual annual number from the community idea is a high ready, and he's in the i d f. we made him during she them. it's additional jewish, 7 day period of morning over the seized family member. his older brother who also was in the army combat to union, died in the last week. gas station attack, shocked by gunman audio, says there is no problem for religious people to be in the military. he also claims the idea of doesn't need a lot of hair ready. it is not interested in turning into a religious army. well, the reason politicians talk about it serves a different goals, but i think it's politics. the id f doesn't need the already. they only want to create a mess last week and a lot came and said we needed to do something with the her rating. and we'll say now say what he did was to silence the noise that exist on us because of the guy as

a war. and the leaderships failure right as to how they do. most of the higher ed is still would like to keep the military service exemption on sunday in protest of the conscription la ultra orthodox, simon sweeter is blocked. one of these roles, key highways. if the government decides to change the decades loans stay to score the army could come from most of these men. the public, even within the hair ready is divided. assembled out of they have a rabbi and he tells them what to do. they want us to study the tourist, so they don't go elsewhere. if he says, go to the army they do. if he says, don't go, they don't mind whoever sits in studies, let him do it. whoever doesn't, should go to the army. so especially in this time of war and whoever conduct should help the soldiers by either giving donations or studying the torah. the rabbi says

that the torah protects the soldiers and government decisions that gives alter also to use the privilege note to bear with. for the, for the army is valid until the end of march this year. if new legislation is north advanced hays rail, we'll see a new generation health, the religious community obliged to join the military. the outcome is hard to predict now, but the heated debates that's now unfolding in his riley society shows that whatever the result is, once that is fine, everyone was, you know, all t from been a brook in his room right to stay with r t up next on him and visions, we take you to come checked out one of the world's most active volcanic sounds of the, in your tweets. you often criticize these roles, policies towards the gather strip. they again for see, on the stand of south africa concerning this issue. now when do you think we should expect the conflict and, and when we,

when i was going to see the 1st results all the area, i see j meeting or well, we would like to see the consumer end as soon as possible. we would live to see is royal, comply with the provisional measures that have been ordered by the court. that is why was going back to the courts to us for this threatening off of those borders and so that we prevent what is now getting matching as a segment crisis, with a lot of people of projected to die from starvation. we would live to see the association of hostilities we would live to see the opening of a few minutes. our inquiry goes to those who i need off of a few minutes our and 8. that is why we were always as a country. and this is something president, remo 4, so we'll continue to check your to use every legal means that instrument to ensure

that we see an end to the genocide to that's currently taking place in guys that we see and to the broad to punishment. and the team of, of people who are seeking aid like to so recently in russia. now the us has continued to support these roles since the beginning of the conflict. is this likely to change the us south africa relations given that your country opposes us box is ready actions. we have a very strategic political and trades relationship with the united states. within the context of that close political interest relationship. they ease and appreciation that we d 54 and the number of issues. one of them is the issue concerning the palestinians as,

as you must seek united way in engagement and in discuss ongoing discussions, ways of various counterparts within the united states. and we will continue to do so. um, the teachings that the president boston really fast to uh, follow up president nelson mandela knows that spend coverage, ongoing dialogue and engagement. and with those that you disagree with the most. and so within the context of that political and trade partnership with the united states, we will continue to voice our displeasure and our discomfort ways and the stage of this role and this behavior to us, to furnish unions and to do so in a constructive manner in a robust manner within the confines of the partnership and the trades relationship that we have with united states. now, how do you assess the media coverage?

all the conflict in the gaza strip? what are your main problems that you see if you to see any, because it seems that the narrative that is influencing all the players outside of the mid least start as we can see. but let me hear your view on this as well. you, you do have, obviously a quite a concentration of focus, a boston media globally with respect to developments in the middle east, particularly where it has been happening. and guys that you do have some international media outlets, particularly worse than outlets that has chosen to present to present as sort of some more at school is riley perspective with the coverage and you both so it has lows

a particular the media houses that originated from parts of the middle east and other parts of the world that has chosen to be balanced in the coverage as well as per trail also that conflicts. and that has allowed people around the world to then have added the ability to inform the views and to inform their starts with respect to what is happening on the ground. in, in, in further study. we noticed is as when we presented or arguments, is that the 1st application that we made to the international court of justice. some of the most prominent global most in media outlets chose not to provide coverage live coverage of that presentation to, to the court. and we observed that the next day when these world presented its

arguments and they would have floated low to a low coverage if you lot. and so those are some of the biases that 2 votes that at the end of the day, each media house as a, his own rights and latitudes, to detect. and it's a total of decisions and to 10 main was perspectives for trade. decision you observed that i did kind of see that is given to the point of sitting in story, particularly if i was didn't read the houses is not to say a treatment that you see elsewhere where these, where the, these past conflicts as a, as a media houses referred to better, for example, on this coverage that they provide is related to some incidents that are less just

taking place in guys and, and is the results also goes by us. so we encourage you to go to the lives of printers and add to add, reflect the situation as it is on the ground, disturbing and painful as it is. we still have those cottages, journalist, men and women of the news room that are committed in relating the truth and in delaying the facts as they are with respect to what is happening or wide. uh that is still talking get by the media because best is really very critical to understanding what the opinion and understanding what the issues really on the spot of what we have been trying to lay back for the well to see when in now coverage archie coverage all of this issues wall to wall, like, like you say about still talking about the media. why in your opinion are

a number of advocate in crisis. which of more suzette consequences done the ukranian one ignored by the western media, while the ukrainian prizes is on the front pages. now the, there are issues and so down the issues in somalia, the central african republic, the co go even the ones that molly and so one how does the advocate and public react to such west and disregard as well? so for the longest time, um listen media outlets have a search to portray the advertising content and in a negative and kind of steve, a typical man uh when the menus falls over t hung uh um, repairs as well as general perceptions of the inability

to gather and effectively portrayed as, as, as the sort of override in defining. so you choose, falls falls off of the african funding assessments every time i get those time number o, as in a math, africans has thoughts to push backs of games that for true, false, false, false, the content and ad sorts, to innovate. and a lot of positive features, as well as developments that are taking place on, on the african continent and with most of that resides and the coverage that we've seen and some of the worst and media houses that next. the appreciation of the complexity is on the ground. and then also in those complexities, you'll find behind or the close of some of the countries and the

challenges that, that we face on the content. and i guess this is going to be an ongoing task. um and it's ongoing challenge that as africans we will continuously confront and work on to change them and then we try to come to an end is portrayed where are these conflicts and always ensure that that conflict is presented in a balance mentor. so that both sides to the conflicts, uh, presented football so that stays, appreciation of the complexity and the issues behind that continued. so now that the countries on the continent that are being remarkably well, some of those countries have come out of a history of conflict. and, and they pulled themselves part of that history and they led, if you like,

the development of the own people. and that has an image that has an impact on regional communities across across the continent. and we would like to see more of that for trail of the african continent as a growing, advancing continental continental, that increasingly has embrace democracy and democratic principles. a content and said over time that showed a strong ability to govern itself and able to add as always, phone issues. that's that kind of for training. we would like to see all of our content and, and what is encouraging is the emergence of various phone line platforms that is allowed people to, to raise the old stories that is allowed 2 people to read for themselves and the phone communities in the various sexes. where they operate and, and that's largely advanced to the mentions of the various digital and on demand

channels. that allows people to be able to share ad content from the hospitals to their neighborhoods into the countries as old. and so that has created a diversity of, of content that can be consumed above the content that is a lot more positive than what to see right now today we, we, we see how in the countries of africa as to how redone the number of western media outlets are being shut down, which according to local authorities spread towers propaganda. now, where should we look for the line between freedom of speech and protective national security? yes, it's a um, it's a very um, um, cheap abundance to, to mentee, but it's one that stuff and guided by each country is constitutional principles. i

guess if i just sort of slides on my own country, so it actually to the constitution guarantees of freedom of expression guarantees the media and as well as access to, to information. we have a very robust and very engaging and media. so to where from the president to officials to business need is no, it is a problem is about a new formal school to needs all producing for, for that matter. and that's something that we accept to be a part of our democracy to be pods false. while consist, no democracy or democratic features if you like. and that's something that we appreciate as part of a growing and evolving democracy. somebody, the countries will say differently based on, you know,

that kind of constitutional guidelines that they have. and basically generally up to standards, little feet, you have a society that's bolted that can engage openly, that can in gauge wage criticism as much as it engages with positive issues that reflects the performance of government. and that reflects the leadership off of government. all right, you spoke earlier about the way western media covers the african continent and how assuming biases is always waved into the story lines and all of that. but basically, if, if the story has to change as to the new rules of engagement, what do you say needs to be done for that to change? well, we have to continue um,

advocating full full furnace. we have to continue pushing the boundaries with respect to how we, as africans reflected in various blue platforms, we have to continue adding the voice with respect to positive developments that we're seeing on our continent. and we have to continue celebrating that humans and the advisements that we are witnessing across the continent. we cannot allow us else to be forced to forwarded lined into a narrative that does not aid also porch or enable. the attainment of us be racially, just continental in individual countries across the continent. for example, um you have the recent adoption of the after the free trade agreement, which is going to be a major post to

a number of for 10 and calling them is that outrage of signatures uh to the us to that's a very positive development in photos wells for us, we can, you call them is for domestic businesses, just as it is positive for, for direct investments, as well as international investors that are going to net different types of profile content. and that's something we have to continuously talk about for dean was to celebrate. and something that we have a very strong conviction that it will deliver the envisage economic benefits to millions and hundreds of millions of people and young people in the continental. and it will lead to the industrialization of coding. and so those kinds of developments i was talking about over and over and over and okayed. and what time we will be able to, to change those negative perceptions about our continents as we continue to subsets

to build resilient and sustainable equipment. all right, we're talking about mutually productive, all beneficial a alliance is to want to extend. awesome african news outlets involved in cooperation with russia and media on some of this issues. that means so much to south africa as this of africans. well, generally they the levels of cooperation across the board, not just do it. russian media, they, they levels of cooperation with chinese media for example, with the russian media. and they, uh, engage meds with some media houses in, in, in the middle east. my colleagues in the media can give you more details than i'm able to gauge. but that is part of and paso, for what we call cultural exchanges, people to people and exchanges,

as well as institutional changes that we encourage through the execution of foreign policy. where we seek to build strong the bones of ways, our global trade and political partners. and it's something that we will continue to to encourage it offers opportunities for skills, acquisitions, and hopefully it offers opportunities for strategic partners sheets. and as well as various promotional fraternities that include the accessible open up as a result of those exchanges and will continue to encourage those exchanges. all right, now, recently many african media outlets have been trying to focus on the war we sedan, which has been forgotten in the western media. how do you assess the interest. busy of the african public in topics that are not raised in the west of media. the fight

against new colonialism, for instance, the position of a climate agenda by the west. as well as coverage of local law for getting conflicts and he many to and prices a well, we have a own media houses and enough it uh we, we do, observed and note how was didn't media houses also and reflects our issues and also in projects and various developments that take place in content and, but it's equally important for me to stress that we have our own home grown media companies. uh, that's kind of the continental to extensively, the platforms like radio for example, still remain very popular. and they still reach a lot of people in every incentives in rural areas. and so we're not always concerned about how west and media houses that are flags paso project asked, because we do have our own channels,

where we are able to exchange information, provide information, consume information, and be able to share perspective and views. and so we've very much in touch with the content and we're not necessarily dependent on west and media houses to tell us about all sense. we know a story, we knew ourselves and in the conflicts that to you in reference to not all know interested in the past following at those conflicts, but they can't relax. so that's what ties involved in, in supporting dialed in supporting for measures that can be put in place to ensure that those countries come to an end. recently present from a closer match. which one of the leading parties in incidental, which is the 2nd meeting. and they'll be future and fed and gauge meant that that,

that he will have with various will play as a, to that conflict. as you will know. so that we could have is quite involved in, in bed pursuing a peaceful and to the consumer to the dfcs. we'll see in know that most of the big where we've contributed at soups to the side, that force quotes in the dfcs engine, mozambique. so for me, so that's a good perspective. we quite engage with the quote. and so what western media houses say or not say, is not a major concern to us. what is important to us is that you are able as a continent to pull mormillo. correlative means the end result is to and show that we assist will cease the countries and brother, countries with processes and other enabled men's to come out of those devastating conflicts so that we can save lives so that we can develop economies.

and we can advance as a continent all right, share with us here does the set advocate prohibit some media outlets and, and besides that, how do you assess the policy of you on the united states with the band? it's a national media like r t and all the russian media outlets. how does that fits with the west? suppose a desire to protect freedom of speech. what's your assessment as well? so i sort of design as a consistent or principle, it sits in the constitution and it's imbedded in the constitution. and now of course, i say is even embedded in uh, so side, so dna and so, so that's it. so we're not a band and the media house, it would be a gauge, the prescript both the constitution to do so. and so that's the kind of practice

that we do not engage in. um, it is unfortunate that some countries in bridge in the bronx has decided to do that obviously if is that we will always be open to engaging in with those that are critical to us to engaging in with those with disagree with. and that is a fundamental principle that informs our constitutional democracy. and so we, we find it unfortunate that the media outlets that up and in some instances and in some other parts of the world just as was find it quite important to see general is being killed in the manner that they've been killed in this conflict to gaza to see the man as a journalist, i intimidated and they prevented to do the work. and that's because that's something that close gains um upgrade as a nation and goes up gains our own constitutional principles. as i've said with

believe in been ongoing engagement in diet of isn't with those that disagree with us and even with those that are critical of cases. and, and so the banning of the media house does not contribute to does not contribute to that wide understanding of issues. it does not provide for diverse sets or voices on an ag shoot or matches and end is limited in terms of the perspectives that, that i should up. so the lease is bad and the media anywhere in the world needs to be allowed to both are age to express itself as freely as possible. so as to allow that diverse search of views and, and to afford people as much choice as possible to a wide array of information. all right, now,

how do you assess the 5 by some provide as in south africa, have stop showing the r t news channel, for instance, as well. the reason has to do with the, you know, commercial interest and, and how and those commercial interest tied to with interest outside of philadelphia get. and as well as a shareholder dynamics that, that could be, that qu, bed plays, as i said, it is unfortunate is that for example, your channel is no longer available at all $108.00 by 10 and a. so that's a good company that, that carried a huge, i know, we would have decided that you would turn, it was still available. so that in the public has that diverse sets of voices. and then in the day, best sense of content that they can choose. it is rather unfortunate that that's

been the past, but to also understand that they may have been some of the commercial interest that it played. that is put pressure and they've led to to, to that decision, the, the,

or the breaking news from within, bob blay, as the country expelled the usaid mission, according to the state department in washington. the scholars more sanction us as imposed on the countries that government official at least of 5 people are dead in does the city the result of the power suit drops of humanitarian aid. a move made necessary by the as rarely blockade of border crossings. also ahead one thing was quite clear that president finding testing again he's out of touch us republican lawmakers slam. she'll bite instead of the union address when she kicked off by focusing on that ukraine instead of burning issues.