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tv   Direct Impact  RT  March 8, 2024 2:30pm-3:00pm EST

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and i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york, he is a legal in media analyst, and in london we have a real consent. he is the founder of a k consulting and a foreign affairs analyst, or a gentleman crosstalk rules in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate line. and let me go to you 1st. you've been very kind to be my 1st chair for a many months now. that's how long this conflict has been going on. it's not really a conflict. it's really kind of one sided. it's a military against civilians. at least that's how i read it. the civilians, mostly women and children. my question to you a line or are you surprised the joe biden is accomplished with no other presidents in american history has been able to achieve. he is basically essentially got the entire world to have loathing for the united states for it's in action and action actions when it comes to gaza. your thoughts, my friend, as well, a couple of things. first i, i told you that before that my, my guess my contribution should be apparent that would be called
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a view from the fish ball. now what you're saying is most appropriate around the world. however, in the united states, in my country, nobody knows anything about this. they know more about ukraine, then this i must start off with. i think the most pivotal of news that i'm seeing this week. apparently, you know, peter, we, we, we have this thing called the n word. we all know what that is, but we acknowledge what the n is. there is a g word here, there's genocide and nobody will even, oh crap. so made it recently a o. c of alexandria across your cortez was as one of the most liberal members of the most liberal progressive factions of the american congress was as well. you acknowledge this as being genocide. and you would have thought, 1st of all, it wasn't that she refused to recognize the terms like she didn't know what it was
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. this is, this is where we are. i just want to say something very quickly as a lawyer to particular, to particular acts an act or acts that target a national ethnic, racial, religious group. that's number one. number 2 actor acts that seek to destroy all or part of it. one of the reasons why a lot of countries in particular, not just us hate, this is that the weird definition of war often times involves this. so if we become too familiar with this term, if we become to facile, if you will, with the application of genocide, it's going to apply elsewhere. so you have a multi kind of a definitional war going on here. and that i think is one of the critical aspects, but yet that volume is turned up daily here in the us live. oh, it's very interesting that you say that because the title of this program is merger and god. so my original title was normalizing. got a genocide, exact reason the your have presented to our audience here comes on say let me go to
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you in london. is it any better in the u. k? can you say the g word a lot really? um, as we can see um uh with the um victory of uh mr. george galloway. that took place last week. uh about 5 minutes. the receipts and i can quite extraordinary man. uh uh, suitcase way too. i gave a speech in the from the a number 10 by 10 of them named uh, george galloway full and you know, instigating divisions in the country. uh, but really what the victory of mr. galloway says, is that the, the people, the majority of the people not only most, that's because the tory party is trying to portray that. that's right. as a, as a moving company, we have to bear in mind the impala sign. people are also christian. yes. and on many occasions, the churches impala is fine with us being the churches in,
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in the west, to raise the voice and call them, well, the israelites dibi. but here in the u. k. a. and i have to say, i'm sorry for being just splunk about it, that is really lovely. and these volumes and the government in the media is trying to put trade. i mean, to, to paint this conflict as a mr. the impact class to gaze the status. cool. because the labor party that you know i was out my knew that by the judge galloway didn't rock stale. that also conservatives not because the moose lives voting in this way because the majority of the people was sweeping and going through the streets in process peaceful process. the games, what they see against the wood, which is general 5 uh, probably the concern. and it is, it is, you know, striking to me that most of the, for the part the members called say, or do anything about it. they don't even mention the fact that it is not only about
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the movement population but close about the christian and, and they are refraining from any words of condemnation towards israel. so what does it say about the condition of the democracy, about the charities values in the west of human rights, and even when most of the right windows and conservators, who i used to hold in, in the great esteem up being pro life and being christian with way of this, you know, a christian and for life values being applied equally to each and every person. yes . absolutely wrong to you. it's painfully obvious what they're doing here. they're hypocrites. okay. that's what they are. you know line or bernie sandra said, if i remember quite, he felt uncomfortable about using the word, well, we should all be along comfortable about it. okay. if we just stop it. all right, that's what's really pathetic about lytle moving on. i'm sure you saw it on the
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news with wait span. fair. the bye didn't ministration ordered a dropping of aide over gaza? what? 333000 prepared meals. and i saw that and i felt ashamed and horrified line on the 1st i i. i looked at this, i'm thinking does this look like we're helping or that we're trying to creep past the barricades? we're, we're going to be dropping. what drones next? like a pizza delivery here. i mean, this is, this is, this is the way we, this is delivering help. i, i've got to ask somebody, the hardest part, by the way, about your show peter is in listening to this thinking, 50 different issues every time one of your learned guys said something. first of all, look at what, why this, this particular issue is so different to americans. number one that deals with the,
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the nation of israel, nate nation state, the state of israel. it deals a little bit there. i say, with religion, this really isn't about religion. no, it's about it's, it's about what's right and wrong and, and who an oppressor and people that are being oppressed. that's the, that's the sure to that. go ahead. but it, but i'm explaining the mindset. so a lot of americans it, oh there go those crazy b as we've been told in the longest time, then when it comes to, especially the arab muslim terrorist kind of interplay. yeah. these people are living in the 4th century, and there they go again. and then there's this idea of that. oh, well that's the way it is. and they're americans don't know the level of involvement that we are in ukraine is one thing because the word billy enjoy that because there's a money aspect to it. and just look at the case of aaron bush now, not to bring that up again. but america has looked at that and were told by people basically in what used to be called the mainstream media, all some lunatic,
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you know, crazy suicide. so americans look at this, is that, well not, not boys will be boys, but you know, how they are there. what are you going to do? and that's it. and they move on. they have no idea of the complexity of this. i keep telling people do say that the, that's a troubles in ireland or between catholics and protestants. don't want that. that's the name you gave it was about the land was about sovereignty was about right and wrong. it was by human that for some reason his blood brain barrier has not been traversed. well, i know, but why know, but that's, that's all intentional. i mean, you and i grew up in the, the, the israel palestine issue was never consent. and contextualized because we on yours, that's what we were offense. that was the line and it's still there actually. i real. i think it's a bit different though in the u. k. i'm glad you brought up the election of galloway because you do have different well very you have communities in the u. k. that feel very, very strongly about this issue. and guys in the united states,
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you could have michigan and you have other states within the u. k, there's a higher intensity go ahead in london up. indeed it is a higher intensity, but i wouldn't say that that is only associated with the movement of population. i mean i'm, i'm quite disappointed that mr. nigel before was painted this as a, as a, as a listening problem and um, but it is not also most of the right wing so cool, right? mean, come and say, just try to put trade is as a, as a what as a gesture of what will kay's and know many conservatives and christians, whom i know are outraged and will be outrage if it would happen somewhere else. this is about humanity and dignity, and if i am on the personal of, of you know what i mean i, i believe i'm the person who believe in god and i'm not ashamed or afraid to say it out, apply this me equally. but if we try to, uh, only for the political games,
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because most of the parties, i mean, this is a, we living in a couple parking system. it is a call to a poppy system. what, which of this part is us, you know, not the chevy the, the resources not competing for the resources and at the same amount of the effect would be conspiring to protect their collective interests. so going back to george galloway, he just the voice the sentiment within the broad spectrum of many communities. and that's why they're outrageous and huge backlash both from the left and from the right. yeah. so if you can see a backlash coming from each and every angle, this mind has to say something, you know, which is good, which is true. if he's being attacked by the government, i mean what you do, it is just the marginal player easily in the last uh with that part of things. but
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how it comes that the prime is the bill come? yes, but do you know me right before we go to the brand here? you're absolutely right. it's, you know, but because most of us in the ellipse don't want to recognize it, most of us are politically homeless. that's why george galloway happened last week . so as most people feel politically homeless and marginalized gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on powers by state, with our case, the spending their juvenile life and rivers of incredible proportion. my turn now to the latest on russia's presidential election. well, well, at least turn it up the
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day in the united states. all foreign policy establishment on national security establishment is a weapon. auction person becomes a cloak for our own aggression. it becomes a way of flushing other countries on the back. for our record, it shows that we're not really that much democracy. we have no script interfering in other countries when they produce democratic outcomes. we don't like the money to do that. you attempted to collect at the exit amount. apache sat there for the show and then it will be a job to look for the cause of a dish. uh, excuse us,
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feel free to use the template to supplement the setup button and not the printer, but someone did you lose? it asked who i think. if i said the media love to focus on the 2 reasons, could you say, would you say that you need to be sure to be present the day before the money? i'm going to work it on stimulus the industry is it will. what's money will funnel says really left? so should william farmer shops might give us who we have got got started or decisions in my lab. and what was that man was elizabeth nikki, left on the what is the best one today and, but to do left off, i've also left for an additional to set. i'm showing. total suspicion can was i'm patient did it for she's kimball's, i'm best do what i mean. there's a push out the
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welcome back to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter about your mind. you were discussing palestine, the okay, it's go back to lionel in new york. i, i, i know that most of the main stream legacy corporate, well, you know, you and i've argued about the term over the years. but it's all intentionally dumb down by dumb people, expecting their audience to be dumber than they are, which they are not. okay. as i said, at the end of the 1st part of our program, most people are alienated by the leads that rule over them. and i don't care what party it is. i mean, i have just as much as loading for the main parties in the united states and the same thing in the u. k. and i, the george galloway is a wonderful breath of fresh air, but he's one man, but who knows your mind? well, you know, looking at the media in the united states, you know, but let's bring up like cnn. you know, is really invasion of profit would be
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a catastrophe. well yeah, it wouldn't be. but why? why isn't something being done to stop and say, that's what i find so revolting is that they show us a jet aside in real time. but we're all helpless. israel's a sovereign country, well since when is the united states respected the sovereignty of foreign countries? lionel, you know, a, peter, you made a great term about being politically homeless. i've used my the term of political atheist and as balls i said, i always tell people i'm with the opposition, whoever you are on with the opposition. but i want to add a new concept, but i asked my, my friends and colleagues, think of yourself isn't being politically instrument rated. you're, you're a pilot. i'm looking at this. i don't know a party, a country a is doing this. i don't know who it is. could be friends, could be whatever a to this group don't know who this is and i'm saying, oh, that's terrible. that is let me see. what are you doing? yeah, that's genocide under the laws. okay. you didn't look up any the, oh my god,
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it is real. forget what i said. i changed my mind because i'm telling people if this were a friends, no problem. if this were russia, no problem, it's the selective outrage and peter, you and i are from the generation where we were we, i, our left and right. we're pretty defined. yep. you know, last was out, you know, was, as you war and i, we saw myself. it's kind of be like the prototypical thomas jefferson liberal, but i didn't change the parties change, they say right, exactly. they, we, i haven't left anything they left me or so is precisely, it's like the left right paradigm is an illusion. it's 2 sides of the same coin. and now for reason i do not understand and i can grasp this. why is this so different? and what happens is, you know, what happens if you or you say you, so between the old age, if you said the said something negative, you would be a conspiracy. there is, and you were not nicole, and that's what they're gonna lay on your gallery. and he's not,
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they're going to pull back everything he's ever said in a thought in a tweet and a message. and they're going to portray him as this hat wearing. lona tech, who represents this for watch? what happens? i mean did script. uh, that's a really good point. i mean, and i saw a is go back to our guest in london. i'd really, i mean, you know, i, i saw the, the after election interview with this. i think maybe it was a sky person. i'm not sure. i think is it on viral? i think it's like take 20000000 views right now. um, you know, i've been called all sorts of names. you know what i don't care anymore. i don't know because the people that call me names i have no respect for so i don't care what they have to say. and george galloway, i mean, you know, he's got a very big scan and he's actually very, very smart. and he's one of the last of his generation that can actually speak to a public in a coherent and put pleasing way. i love listening to him, but you know,
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they, they're gonna do everything they can to attack of. and so what ed real go head. yes, that's true. i mean, as i, as i said before, i mean it's, is, is a concentration of an attack from both sides. but what to say about that? i mean, i don't want to, you know, um, uh, some, you know, that's very prophetic here, but i think the judge got away is the last hope for this country. uh, when it comes to uh, of gathering people from all sorts of spectrum, from the true lights, from the true left to the pre k, about the full full, the values that this country is supposed to be representing. and the station supposed to be representing to uphold the sofa western values. yeah, i mean the question and western bodies, and i do not believe in labeling any more. george got away as the left is because
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if you look at what he's saying, i mean he's easy from day one. he was pro breaks it. he believes in strong family. he knows what would the around a woman is. so he doesn't have this. what would you be the agenda in his mind and he believes in strong communities and he's a games, you know, grooming guides to which us, you know, in some parts of the country are doing a rent this things to do, to, to the, to the, to the young goals, so i do believe that he might be a part that will chat is thoughts something bigger and i, oh well i didn't know to what i was. i wrote about the left and right. this is know what, what is there not to like what you just said? well what's, what's not like do like i, i don't get it, you know, line all i, i know george galloway, i've met him a number of times. he's been on this program a number of times i've been in his pod cast, he's been a my pod gas and i'll spell it out. he's socially conservative. so my okay,
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economics are, you know, he's conservative and so in social values, guy and cultural values. and he believes the state should be able to serve the people. i don't know what's hard to understand about that. okay. but if you don't get on the, the work agenda or the culture wars, then you, then you're put into a box. he refuses to do that. i refuse to do that. i know you line although and if you refuse, they have that done. i think i'd will as well. and i think that's why people watch this program line on. well peter, there you go again. and so using logic, you know, thinking there you go, you just never learned, do you, you don't remember what happened. there is the, the, the upon them is, i guess when you been finkelstein, remember this guy who basically was ground into pumice, they didn't even exist. and then all of a sudden i, i told a friend of mine lovingly he's like herpes, he just flares up again. it's like, i thought we took care of that. here we comes, you know, every time there's an argument, every time there's something like this,
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these are beta test. these are the opposition to see what can we do that works. because like sometimes back, you know, we become bacteria resistant, or antibiotic resistance. every time this happens and we don't fight back as to the truth, not just sides, but as with the truth, then the opposition, whatever that is, become stronger and more resilient in every time something like this happens. remember, our mainstream media gentlemen are or are dying, they're hanging on by a thread and they're going to do nothing to in any way, sacrifice, what's left left of corporate support. so they're going to be re peters, not reporters, and proxies for whoever is in charge. so let's just move them out of the way. but what we're seeing is a complete and total, and i hope extinction of this left right paradigm because this doesn't exist. i told you before, peter, that i've got a friend of mine who are prototypical left is upper west side. jews who now have to go to the fox knows to find some kind of silas. and i've got the left, like rachel,
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mabel, and others who want to go a war to war with everyone. and they can wait a minute. have i been in a fog? i'm from the 6 piece. who are these people? well, when do you have a title? i think is what it gets down to. i agree with you and i've given up on this left right paradigm a long time ago. doesn't make any sense. me intentionally tries to divide people, which i refused to do that when jimmy door and tucker carlson can sit down and have a great conversation. that gives me a little bit of hope. ok, but you know, it's all about the donors. they are the ones that determines the message and the narrative, and we have to get away from that very, very difficult as why we have to have people like george galloway and even norman finkelstein. i'd, well, what are you mentioned? something i think is really interesting is that in, in western media, legacy media, they try to portray this as of kind of civilizational bore a, you know, we're civilized and then everyone else,
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or both of our barry until the burrell thing here. but what you said is absolutely right, if it's all about that, and we're the ones that are in the barbarians, the west. so on the, the, we are, yes, because we have been desensitized by the, by the media. who as a right me all the commentate to said, uh is uh, you know, uh, peddling the and working in the interest not of the public, but all of the donors or, and support is and stakeholders. so unfortunately, the site, the society husbands, the census i but, but a, something like the victory of george galloway is given. if this is a wakeup call or for, for the existence of many people from different spectrums from political are faithful, left. this for right wing goes for people who truly care to not lose our soul and sanity because it is all about, you know, being made in,
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in any shape or form. as you've mentioned. i, i really appreciate when people from different pop, you know, spectrum political spectrums can sit down and have a discussion. this is, this is all about the society and the confusion because otherwise we will be just devices in room. this is for the people, especially here the i'm elected, prime minister wishes to and i did by firing a short a, a judge got away with the speech. this he is, the divide to not judge got away. but because the judge got away is the person who was trying to bring people from all spectrums to fight for the country and fight for what is right. and i'm with him. yeah. so, you know, you know, you know, like, oh, i could remember a few years ago i had a guest on, she was a democrat and she's a sheet and she was, you know, she's all about diversity. were all about diversity and i replied to her. and she had no answer for me. i said, well, what about unity? a?
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yes. for a quality, you know, there, there needs to be something right now and gentlemen, i don't want to be a, uh, cassandra, or i guess a false prophet or, or bad news bearer. but let's see what happens for those people who come up to support george galloway. this is you need an i am spartacus moment right now. if he is this loan loyce, this radical who comes forward and they say, oh, isn't that pleasure? or you have people in the u. k. petrified to day or even even not in agreement. then all of this is for not that will do nothing again but toughen the resistance. and our and the gentleman had a very good point. we have become mentally de sensitized. we have been habituated and condition not only to look the other way or, or not to react to violence. but we have this almost like this, this political or this of a guy is a fatigue. and i hate to say, you know,
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if you're, there's something to that line or unfortunately there is something to that. and i, and it's something that we'll probably talk about next week, but we'll end on this positive note. these people in power are petrified. that's a good 1st step. we know we're going in the right direction as all the time. we have a fascinating discussion. i want to thank my guess in new york and in london. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. you next time. remember prospect rolls the the the, what is part of the visit that the employee would post good. isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part
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is it something deeper, more complex might be present. let's stop without cases. let's go out of the as the in the 2nd half of the 1940, the powerful european army were losing their colon. one of the 1st to start collaborating was the dutch empire. on august 17 1945. the declaration of independence of indonesia, a former judge colony was proclaimed the liberation movement 1st led by the national hero of the indonesian people to gardens. however, amsterdam had his own plan, which was to defeat the revolution. more over. they were supported by great britain . the colonial troops setup control over the main cities in the country,
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but the countryside remained in the hands of the rebels and the resistance continued growing. in 1946, the british left indonesia, whereas the dutch did not want to lose power. and switch to the tactics of total terror. in december 1947, the royal troops committed a massacre of the inhabitants in the village of robert got a 431 civilians were killed. all in all the lives of 100000 indonesians were on the conscience of the dutch colonialists and their allies, mass executions, and regular bombing did not help the netherlands. their troops got blocked in the cities, the world community demanded to put an end to violence. and the empire started negotiations. in 1949, the head round table conference was held, and the kingdom of the netherlands was forced to recognize the independence of indonesia. a sovereign muslim state appeared on the world map and became one of the most powerful countries in the islamic world.
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was a major thing of us to bring it to issue a pretty genius. by giving the attendants the condition initially the finding a crush at the cold. and because then we should simply weekly cause people to get to the city because of the consortia. the cases i chose coast mcadams, which was the name goes to pretty much the folks on the plaza road, literally gene you level for you or that was the turn your past due to the some of the risk adjusted to 0. this is what do you, but you're selling, you successful, we want to build some of the treasures to go additional for the lead on up. i'm forward to for slow motion, which might get rain. so when the
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breaking news from is in bob blay, as a country x belt e usaid missions, according to the us state department follows more sanctions to us as a cover summit. countries, the government officials at least 5 people dead in gaza. city the result, the power suited for opposite the mandatory in a move made necessary by the as rarely blockade of border crossing. also a head, one thing was quite clear though, president fighting hasn't getting out of touch us republican lawmakers slammed all by it instead of the union address, which he kicked off by focusing on new brain instead of burning issues on.

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