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a box. now the, the september 11th attacks where the defining event of a generation of americans, just like on the day of the bombing of pearl harbor, or the assassination of president john f. kennedy. every american can tell you where they were and what they were doing when they learned that the united states had been attacked on september 11th. more than 22 years after the fact. americans thought we knew the story of 911, the c i a and the f. b. i weren't cooperating. the white house wasn't focused on terrorism and the terrorist gotten lucky. but nowadays, to an obscure court filing, we're learning something far more sinister. i'm john curiosity. welcome to the whistle blowers the

the. 2 2 2 2 2 2 the story of the 911 attacks is a very complicated one. i will admit to you. i was personally involved as the former director of counter intelligence for what was then called alex station at the c i a. it was also known as the summer been live in group. i later became the head of c. busy a counter terrorism operations in pakistan after 911. and then i was the executive assistant to the c. i is deputy director for operations for many years. i thought i knew what happened in the run up to 911. now i know that i was wrong to an article at the great zone, lays out the truth about $911.00. it shows using the f, b i's own documents, as well as affidavits by insiders in the investigation that the saudi intelligent service was likely involved in the attacks through an intelligence officer named omar i was by you me by you may had been in san diego, california with 2 of the 911 hijackers now wife of has me and holiday mid har. they

socialized together on many occasions and had organized other gatherings that included several of the other hijackers. but you mean even health has me and mid hard get an apartment in san diego by you? me for his part says that he only met the terrorist accidentally. witnesses say that just isn't true. and by you mean never fully explain why he received $50000.00 from princess haifa. been faithful of sold the wife of the saudi ambassador to the united states. prince bandar been sold ton of sold and then passed that money to the terrorist. we're happy to be joined by the author of that article kit, clarin burge. he's an investigative journalist, specializing in the role of intelligent services and shaping politics and perceptions. welcome to the show kit. we're happy to have you help us sort through this complicated story. hey, how's it going? let's start with the players involved. we have all maro by,

you mean we have no way also has me. we have holiday and mid heart. tell us about these guys. yeah, sure. so i mean i, a m, l has a, has me, you know, mitchell j o. actually the crucial components within this, within what happened and 911 in every what day of the day of the 1st 9 to the left and hijackers to arrive in the us and turn them in, in terms of immediately upon arrival at times of so in that in los angeles, they need more help i use who is a saudi government employee now, he claimed to an official f. b. i investigation called operation uncle and into certain types of savvy involving 911 that he was to humble and saudi government and improve employee who had just taken a pepsi on the to on the on,

on has me and i'll miss all because they didn't speak english and they were strangers in a strange land, and so as a result, he helped get them accommodation and gave them the brother numerous sums of money to get to thousands of dollars and help them get set top. the higher you're moving to the items woman who was it was so electrically posting information to this out the intelligence services as well. um and uh, yeah. did do. an uncle concludes actually about, oh boy you, me was working for saudi intelligence. he was himself that he kind of long standing high ranking is se bye in the us. he was to organizing various and con, desolate activities for the saudis on us soil. now. well, uncle doesn't go into that, didn't go into and it was shut down brother abruptly and without much in the way of the funds that were explanation. i think it was in 2016 of the month and i might be wrong with that. but um, in the, uh, uh at the store as of last year. um this independent website goes spiteful and got

his hands on a 2021. i'm told decoration by a lead investigator to the office of ministry commissions, which is the legal body which is prosecuting alleged. and i'll call you to terrace housing one time or bank and it's very rich details and as well what is well, with reading, i'm just the only side on my, my, all right, my, i, i folded this of investigation which went supernova globally hooked me up. it was rather drugs probably given that the entire major media would ignore a split the, the, the in the, in the finally it's, it is made repeatedly clear that the c i a had a relationship with has me and middle via the, using the saudis, as a as a liaison, so it go through around restrictions on the c. i a spying on on you on you, you got it domestically? yeah, i don't us citizens. so, um, i mean that's the, that's the short on so,

and then we can go into the wider around the machinations of uh, alex station if you wish. much of your article is based on a sworn affidavit submitted by don canister. are one of the military commissions investigators. i know dawn, he's a serious person and an accomplished investigator, he spent more than 20 years as a drug enforcement administration. agent. tell us what he said about the connection between the $911.00 hijackers and the saudi government. well, i mean i, i'd rather disagree but not, i mean, did it show up in effect what 2002 is that the saudis and they were providing money and material support to the hijackers on and what your ball they, while they were in the us and and assisting that mistake, prepared to hi, jackass lightens and slide them into various buildings on comb, september 11th, 2001. and i, i'm like, slightly less dead. i'm not particularly interested in the, in the,

in the saudi. i can go on far more interested in otic station because they the, this, the, what the saudis were doing in the us in terms of funnelling money and support and assistance to this out to the, to the hijackers. it could not have been done without the see eyes approval or at least evidence within the c i a, a pre approval of an activity. one thing it's hot, the tennis row has evidence that by you, me, was working with another saudi intelligence officer in the united states by the name of the had a committee. and so mattie was deported from the us before the attacks for alleged connections to terrorism. who was to marry and what was his role? a lot of like i said, it's not somebody not particularly looked into. i mean, it just strikes me is like more of more of a smoke screen. really? i mean, i wrote in law school for my subsidized grad recently, which noted how i had a uh, uh, the uh, what's his name up a dis, a tough shake. who was the last the only employment who lived with the the,

to high that with the has me in mitchell. um, i mean, i might have it as well if, if i has me in mid doors behavior during this time was extremely strange. and but was what day around the suspicion amongst that nature's because they didn't buy any furniture. they slats on mattresses on the floor and spend that days playing flights to be license. but then they would also, they also had mobile phones, which are not that common at the time. and they were k, e picks up by the limousines. i mean, what could be more suspicious? not, but apparently, despite living with an f, b, i, informant, to mention the pets to his hand. and on more than one occasion gave the detailed biographical information. they wrote the russo named in the local telephone book. but one of the reasons why this didn't create any investigative leads was because the c, i a knew i'm, that the has me and middle had multi entry visas for the us. this is all and i the

inspector general report they, they, they knew very well that they were heading into the us and had been finding something um they attended the, they all call you to somebody in quality pool which was recorded at the series request. will that they already took images, there was no audio apparently. and i mean quite why doctors, i'm not, i'm not sure, but i'm, that's your insight, expert expertise may offer an explanation. but the, um, if it can it like so that when, when they enter, when they enter the us despite the fact that the, and the see i said like them is terrorist threats. no one was notes like no any that there are several f, b i, a operatives who are posted to alex station, which is the c i is dedicated. i'll call you the tracking unit of the day with explicitly told and repeatedly told by the superiors to know the notify actually i had to type courses about their presence in the us to tell us about the transfer of

money from the saudi ambassador's wife to the terrace, this is something that has bothered me for a very long time, and it's never been fully explained to anybody. there was just a numerous amount of money being sent both to got to be me for his are kind of person in richmond by the saudi ambassador in the us. and uh, yes it is. it is members of his members of his family and that was also an enormous amount of money being a month for the the hijackers. i mean, it's cost quite interesting is if you look at the $11.00 commission report, which is, i mean, i might have to, the overwhelming majority of it is based on the testimony obtained them to torture that full and the, the due date and the detainees mentioned to like talking to, to make it possible. crimes let blow all those things that hadn't been built at the time that they were captured. and they duplicate to the large number of innocent people who had no connection to terrorism. because the, the, it was necessary to construct this specter about this global terrorist conspiracy,

which didn't actually really exist on. and so i'd like, yeah, that the and the 911 commission report deals with the question of who finance the finance, the attack as the exciting the dates of note materials significance or some kind of phrase like that, which is quite incredible. i mean, everyone's seeing all the president's men follow the money, right. i mean, the, the finding was so that it, him at the details how that what concerted efforts by still exotic, how they was lead book, one of the key investments that leads all the, the 911 commission to shield the saudis from uh, from scrutiny and unconcealed that role there it was. so it would contain that in the declaration of large number of f, b i n c i a people who's claiming to that they were told expressly to law you about the c i a 's relationship with has me middle 2 congressional inquiries to clara

bird stay right there, we're going to take a short break and when we come back, we will continue our conversation with kit claire and berg. we're going to try to get to the bottom of the question of whether 911 was just a horrible intelligence failure or something more sinister state to the. 2 the look forward to talking to you all about technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is a conflict with the 1st law show you as a patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point obviously is to make a truck rather than to the various shop with the artificial intelligence. we have somebody with demons the

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john kerry onto we're speaking with journalist kit clarin berg about the 911 attacks and the possible involvement of the saudi government in them. good to have you with this kit. hey, how's it going? it's an important part of your article has to do with both the f b i and the 911 commission. neither are honest players in the story. it seems not only possible but likely that the f b i had recruited one or more of the hijackers through omar of by you me. so 1st is that true? and if so, how in the world would it have been possible for the $911.00 attacks to take place? well, i mean, they were allowed to happen. i mean, at the very, at the very, very least, and mike, i mean to all sorts of interesting indications. it's a full knowledge like david, extremely suspicious and irregular trading activities. and the best thing on poor performance of companies who stop price is crashed due to $911.00,

including delta airlines. and then by that google sorts of speculative that's on defense companies, which are the immediate need that, that chat price, you know, double treatment tripled following 911 because of the prospect to subsequent was. and so, i mean, it's quite the very least ever that's happened on purpose. i mean, i have my own series which are about just out. that's the reason i try not to deal in, in speculation, particularly in my wife. but i mean so for example, if you think about like the a top from the pens again, right? like this was the, the, the, the, the re, the, um, the hijacker. it was thats the individual county handle um who was according to his family not possess the big stream is used and was extremely sort of self facing and good hearted and was a highly unlikely a suspect for carrying out of a major terrorist talking to foreign country um, but uh yeah,

in fact he hijacked the slide 77 and it, it makes it incredibly remarkable and just quite extraordinary. $300.00 and so i teach degree just sending colt free time from around 7. the 1000 seats in the apple travelling either side from a 100 miles per hour, did it become positive level where the pedestrian road leading up to the pencil good. like flying so low that it's like nothing like the alarm post. and before it crashes into the department defense h q, and this would be a remarkable performance for military jet like the passengers yet, but nobody that has the jewel and this has been reported on by the mainstream media was considered one of the was if not the was people's, they'd ever seen, you know, a flight school, they told that he presented a risk and he was ever in the he couldn't control the thing he lodge, and cessna. and he, he was, he said yes, like a safety hazard. he would take hours to complete quite

a exam questions. it typically took about the 50 minutes of my students. so i mean quite how he personally pulled off like one of the most daring. um, you know, mid a revised robust times in recorded history is space is nothing short remarkable. and then as well obviously a total lack of cctv from, from anywhere like around the tense good in which the actually shows a plane facing the building. i mean it so maybe it was even more kind of incredible, right. and that the building had like 20000 people in it and then by the casualties were about 150 and it was not know what senior was home. but as it was mainly like builders and construction workers, because the part of the pens gonna hit was, was basically just used to under refurbishment. so i mean medium perhaps so like a bunch of covers instances. i mean, oh, maybe the saudis was just finding something full, maximum visual impacts while limiting casualties. i mean the, you know,

the times that hit the towers, they hit very high, often before 9. and before most people are at what, i'm honestly, when it's between 1000, i was about 12, they are, they were as you probably be, well nij on your upright cities. and if that x like bicycle cities, with your tens of thousands of people watching the attraction, tens of thousands of towards the day, it would be the hotels that had like hundreds of rooms. and then the desktop was actually in the very like, thousands it was initially thought because of because they was so vast that the death toll was it was like maybe 25000 people, 1100 homes and drugs valve. as at the time on that before he mysteriously commit suicide. but yeah, i mean, this is all very saw and the, you know, if it, if it was a few hours later and a few floors level, you would have tens of thousands of people who are walking out. so i know maybe it's a lot of co incidence. i'm not sure i've never had confidence in the work of the 911 commission for reasons that have never been explained. they did not cooperate

with a wide variety of governmental organizations that were trying to get to the bottom of how an attack like 911 could occur in your article. you talk about the commission's chief of staff being uncooperative. can you tell us a little more about that? yeah, sure. i mean, well, i mean, i don't, i don't to use the phrase on cooperative, but like, i mean, yeah, i, like i said, i, i know that like there were several s b, i officials who, who talked to training that they were told to, to, uh, uh, to get to lawyer to official investigated investigation, i get a sense that there was some, you know, there was some good people within the bureau who like what really angry about what happened and wants to get to the truth of that. i'm sure the same is the true true the see i as well, i mean, the alex the the descriptions of alex station and, and various people working within 5 within it, they seem to be behaving very suspiciously. i mean, is very,

all the people who will affect to be on the list would be using code names for each of the i'm trying to recreate the assets within, i'll call you to ritual. i mean, that's not, you know, the walk of as on the list as you well know, you of the bet. so, i mean, not, not in itself is quite suspects. and then there's all sorts of other peculiar uh, at the sides, like when they met with the f. b. i appear to the thames, it's deliberately mislead them about the identities of pennsburg to people in any photos they presented, one of whom was, was of it was what a bizarre. uh huh. oh yeah, it's a story they and they showed pictures of it because me and middle are and then planes and don't know who they why, which is very strange. one of the lingering mysteries as the failure. the refusal really of the c i a and the f b i to cooperate with one another. the result of course, was the $911.00 attack. these 2 organizations hated each other, and that hatred went all the way back to the creation of the c. i a in 1947. how

much did that hatred and refusal to cooperate result in 911 or would the attacks have happened any way? well, i mean, the, the, the, every, every life is but rather i think does that the phrase is used. i mean, there were all sorts of, i mean the, the us was behind the pendant triple, you know, i have the time. but like there was, i, i remember right watching about as a long time ago you that was the that was the say with millennium paul, where, um and i'll call you do it for tape attempted to drive a, a call for the explosive in from canada and it was a really, by chunks that they got stopped because they're a little that were around that time and enormous number of on demand board across things with which we could have just slipped past with, with some of these. um the, uh, interagency based between the anesthesia and c, i a has also been distributed for to 911 and it or

a lot of information sharing or lack there of refusal to. um yeah, cool. like true. all right. and the situation in which the agencies didn't what each of the new and i mean that, that, that there is the aspect of it. i mean, it does, it does strike me that, that what that was very deliberate attempts by elements about like stations to prevent the f, b i from finding out about the presence it has to be in a mid middle in the us, like i. so i mentioned not june 2001 meeting where they presented size of the high justice, but then refused to stay free. they were already, we went to the extent of falsely claiming one of the individuals picture. it was filed out 2 sided. it was a suspect and bombing a u. s. s cole, and it hit by one of the f. b. i opted cited in in the dining canister. all right, is that the test to me is i got

a notice the other side for c s 12 and a cs 12 recalls how he confronted i am an, an f b s. b. i analyst, known as being a coffee and to mon dates that she provide information on a has me and middle and, and she refused. and he explicitly states it off to the folks who with the like someone who's going to die unless made or is pursued criminally. and then like, because obviously there are 2 types of investigation. there is, there is a criminal, amended intelligence investigations. people unlike it when a criminal investigation is a, is a serious thing. indeed, i had, they had the f b, i know that has me and mid over in the us they could have launched a criminal investigation, found them within days. i did clock who is the head, who was the players and is heads had to come to terms of terrorism operations of

the white house, who was pretty much immediately demoted when the bush administration times power has said very much the same thing, but they could have been cold is more information we said the obvious question is whether it was deliberately withheld. it's a nice thing that is quite clear that it was um whether that was to allow the attack to go ahead well or no, it is another question. to give us your gut reaction to all of this information after all these years. what ends still need to be tied up and will the likes of omar oh by you me. and so i had to somebody ever see justice. i think what we really need to do is not that needs to be a genuine independent investigation into 911. but that it's not subject to, i mean the, the original, the original 911 commission, a commission, no set that they were, they were set top to fail and deliberately, from the from dates and i knew it was other stuff. um yeah. like we need like a serious investigation with subpoena power, with the uh,

perhaps being involved with like the clear now rather rather embarrassing mute or investigation with like sweeping powers to, to interview witnesses subpoena wrap it in some get people on ice and punish them if they found the lying and specifically austin. why? if it's the case, if it is the case that the c i had a relationship with it with at least 2 more of the hijackers. why was that concise attempt to conceal this? why here? what was, what was the purpose because there was clearly some, uh, some wider objective that was being served by it. but by that, by that to see by that consumer and so on. i mean, i've seen no indications of anything like this coming. the materializing, it is abundantly clear that the entire media just wants to move on and pretend it didn't happen. like why is the this the item you have the items be rather silent, and then yes about the, the release of this uh, this declaration. i mean,

it does appear that some officials, a lease in my home country, britain was paying close attention because when i was stopped in may on the account to tell her of how does the us and it's branded, you're coming in and whether you and the titans of 5 hours against my well well my and progress would be questions on the threats of arresting prosecution for not talking. which is you know, a sign of sasha on and the use indicator of fascism compelled speech. and i'd like to say specifically honestly what, what was i thought about 911 and for me will monitor with questions about my investigation. so, british intelligence might be a, might have been a, been concerned about about my x plays a. and again, we can also selves, you know, why this would be and why, specifically still fit to use valuable time in interrogation in a windowless room and back of an apple which, you know,

load me the about the wall i school, it's about $911.00. and so yes, like what's now held in data bases around the world around the world by um, a highlighted security and intelligence and agencies. um yeah, well, quite disturbing. john. thank you. take claire and bird for joining us today. some stories are so tragic and so complicated that many people think it's better to just move on. i hear that all the time about the assassinations of john f. kennedy, robert f. kennedy and martin luther king. i hear t fully off and about the $911.00 attacks, but that's wrong. the american people deserve the truth. they deserve to know if the organization's charged with protecting them are incompetent. they deserve to know if they're in danger. 5 for one and grateful for journalists like kit clinton birth to even years after the facts are still in pursuit of the truth. thanks for joining us for another episode of the whistle blowers. i'm john kerry onto we'll

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