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the, the, the a t of signs, exclusive documents verifying and all position policy attendance and list us involvement in the upcoming summer oxygen elections. the and c rowley policy spokesperson says any intervention will be blocked. you can be assured that we will look any attempted to the closing of a with i'd say u. s. so any of the, you know, allied we would look, it's a not just as the n c, the people, the car pediatrician kitchen, calculating the addictions the united states is responsible for these chaos because they are the ones who send the web us to create it all patients play the us is meddling and fueling the crisis in the country does is at least one person's killed . another round of investigating gun violence in the copy of nations. first with
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the god, the war. now it is 6 months to be get a 1st time the accounts from a june list who's extensively covered the conflict on the ground for hockey. before we left, when i basically lost all taxes found any safe place to work from us to serve my people. i felt like i have more value to the people in palestine and from the outside versus inside because of those you headlines, the 3 of the most skilled time monday. speak to scott. so i'll be back with the full news run down in just on the and hours the
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i'm action or times and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world, from the middle east, 24 hours ahead of his rails planned deadline for prisoner released by hamas otherwise threatening what appears to be a total extermination of the people of gaza as a whole. the month of ramadan begins. all this is us, president joe biden continues to supply weapons through his regular head of a u. s. presidential election that may very well see for my president, donald trump hardly facing for criminal trials back in the white as one of the world's most famous lawyers who is defended. julian assange daniels but donald trump, mike tyson, and will controversially jeffrey epstein harvey weinstein, and o j. simpson. his friend of is riley pm, that in yahoo, professor island, joshua pitts, he's emeritus professor inhospitable school and his, the older 2 new books get from the threat to civil liberties due process. and our constitutional rule of law and war against the jews have to end time us barbarism. he's in miami, florida. thank you so much advertise, graduates, we're coming back on before we get to gaza. i mean,
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how do you feel about the state of democracy in the usa will be at the supreme court? the verdict was one you probably would agree with, given these attempts to prevent the u. s. is leading opposition lead a drum from being elected president lin, running in in november. i know you're supported by them in case anyone thinks your grades of what your donald trump as well uh, in my past i award bananas uh on a scale of one to 210 toward a banana republic. and i had gotten up to 6 bananas based on the 4 charges that were made against donald trump. but when the supreme court refresh the colorado case, i eliminated one of the banana. so we're down to 5 now. and i hope we don't get up to 6 or 7. democracy is aggressive, both from the election of donald trump and also from attempt by trump's enemies. to assure that voters can't vote for him, or that he is not on ballots or is prosecuted before the election. so i see trash
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from the democracy on all sides. just for our international audience. explain how victoria is donald trump, but the outcome you wouldn't want if uh, if he won like a socialist, eugene debs, he could still become president and pardon himself while he was in jail. but then that would be a problem if it was a federal conviction, as opposed to state conviction. what exactly happens? but we can't pardon itself mistake conviction. so if there is a conviction or even new york or fulton county, florida, he couldn't pardon himself. and the law is that clear as to whether he could pardon himself from a federal prosecution, but nobody knows the answer to that question. and it's unlikely that he would try to to do it. but he probably would not be sentenced to serve a prison term while he was president, if he was convicted of a serious offense and then elected president,
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he'd probably be able to serve his terms president and then face possible imprisonment thereafter. a yeah. more unprecedented stuff. uh meanwhile, um, by doing, uh, well the authorities, the justice department, i am trying to get julian assigned to the united states despite the opposition of all the journalists all around the world, the australian government, the german government. i understand that you defended daniel's bugs the late den elizabeth is being on this program. i think is worse than the 1970s given what's happening to julian assigned his health as he was tortured in britain, according to the un, special are up to it is much worse. i was one of the lawyers on the pentagon papers case, and there at least people were treated with the degree of decency assigned has really been made a horrible martyr to free speech. and i'm honored to have been part of his legal defense team. and if he has extra guides the united states,
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i hope i can help him avoid prosecution. i think he has a strong case. remember he's off the one who stole any secrets like daniel ellsberg . good. he's more like the new york times, the publish them, and the new york times wasn't even prosecuted. ellsberg was, but eventually the case was one. but i don't think us on should be prosecuted for publishing material that other people provided to him. and when he gave them to, to any of the, the, any grand jury in virginia as well. you don't get an attorney in front of the grand jury, but the attorney can say outside the grand jury room and he can come out and ask up questions. um, but uh the real question is will we be, can find uh, pending uh, a resolution by the grand jury and he's been to find far too long. already i met him in england before he was confined, and he seemed to be in far better health and spirits. then he was after he went into the ecuadorian embassy and then in find and he's likely to be confined in the
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united states. and that would be too bad. i mean, he comes as close to being a political prisoner, as we have had in a long time in the united states. and so again, i represented many political prisoners in, in my life ranging from nelson mandela to not tundra for ascii. and i'm honored to continue to defend political prisoners of, of, of every stripe and background against the pressure of government persecution. well, actually, mandela may be relevant here to the usa, sending accuser persecuting truth tellers or publishers preventing democracy as they try and attack their opposition leader being led to, according to a special counsel by mentally ill, the president and, and now people across the world in the in the not in the nature of nation countries, arguably saying that the united states, as a co conspirator, in genocide you've written
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a new book where you talk about you talk about the october 7th, the taxes being totally unjustified. does the book didn't mandela justify his, the bombing of restaurants as the, in the apartheid struggle as a perfectly part of the struggle that is required to overthrow regimes on the basis of their apartheid systems. and he was wrong to do so, and he apologized for doing so and stopped using that kind of terrorism against civilians, i think deliberately wilfully targeting civilians, particularly for rate, which is what happened in when, when i'm ice crush over the boat or the wind is now confirmed that there were rapes and sexual atrocities and yet there are some of the still who still deny that there would be headings. i had dinner with a man whose son was be headed and they uh, home us opportunities just tried to sell his son's head is guys up to $10000.00
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before it was retrieved. so there's no comparison between what happened. yeah, the u. n. report premium, a path and this we collected no evidence to support any of the claims, unfounded, and interact, inaccurate forensic evidence is collected by on the train volunteer 1st responders . there was the un report this week, and that's a potentially valuable evidence, wasn't there? you an expert statements that well actually view and ex, what seems that were particularly distressed by repose, the palestinian women and girls in detention have been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault. and that's what the headed baby story. we now know that the israeli government had to admit that they have no evidence of what the claims by nicole is a deck of the i 24 news and repeated by by them. but then we'll back by the, by the white as well. i am the photographs that prove conclusively that women would rate that they were shot and their vaginas that their breasts were cut off. i've
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spoken to the man who did run has their photographs. yeah. their photographs and i've seen them in there. why did you know, give the, the, you and the are they are all the way and it is really well the you and officially says there is none. there is no eyes there's, there's nobody us that occurred in israel is equivalent to a holocaust. and i, or you cannot deny the reality. there were rapes from us, a brag about it, a moss was proud of it. and if you start denying the reality of rate, and the reality of this young man, i'm not talking about babies. this young man 19 years old, who was be headed and his head was offered for sale. there's an ard, i'm, and a can contradicted evidence and that's remember another thing. the head of him are seeing why was found to have said he does not want a ceasefire. he thinks that if israel kills more civilians,
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that the homeless cause will be strength. and he will, i think the see fires rather than negotiations over the hostages on both on both sides. but we just back to this rape stuff because the big headed baby stuff isn't even talked about by stage above it. but it says clearly in the united nations report, it was determined by the un mission team. the crime scene had been altered, viable, misquoted, the bodies moved, expanding the separation of the body of the gulf and the rest of the family. are you seeing or maybe you are seeing the altered photographs. gosh, you're just not telling the truth, the un and you, you at the track, apologies to view is for the audio cutting out of that old professor does humans, but we will continue when it comes to israel, because they're very anti 0. same organization that called zionism, racism, but even the un said there was clear and convincing evidence of right, very strong evidence of rate varies. and that was after discounts. all this,
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the evidence is clear. why deny it? why become a holocaust, they're not there. why deny? that's in we'll watch. he uses human shields and he wants israel to kill as many palestinian babies as possible because that helps home us in the court of public opinion, palestinian from us leaders have bragged about the use of children and women as human shields there. okay i, i just have to say, i just have to say, oh, i only see him off then i any of these a be headed babies. these, these are raped claims and i have to say the united nations, i'm reading the u. n thing here. the latest report which has they didn't find actual evidence for that, but only a human shields point. i mean, i know, and you and your book, you cool, i'm just the international. so i'm kind of apologised for home or something. but do you know that there is no evidence of all the human shields rent easy, and you're seeing that repeatedly said that there was no human shields. and on the
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bottom here would be situation and quite the opposite. it's the israel is use of human shields, palestinian human shields. you from one of the leaders are from us uh, 40 ahmad, after the power city and people, death is becoming industry which women excel as are people living on those who i'm to hold on the heads of, i'm honest, i'm not talking about operatives dropped me. this is why they have formed human fields of the women, the children, the elderly, animals. yeah. diane, in order to check alan's design is bombing machine. it is if they were saying to design, does that mean? what do you desire just like you desire? like there is a videotape of these words coming out of his mouth. you can be a rated i, or you can be a hawk, a snyder, but you cannot be a human shield. and i are because there are multiple leaders of almost who have brag about the use of babies and children, and women as human shields. you take that word over. i'm to see international ass,
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which is a conclusively, there is no evidence for these are human jails. the amnesty international filed the report of the harvard amnesty international group on october 7th, saying that the killings were all the fault of israel and that how much. oh well, i did not do anything improper. no, i don't trust them to stay international at all. i trust photographs, who are you going to believe the photographs or you're lying eyes who you believe the video tape of the liter or from us. now this video tape was not used by understands and national when issues they denial that human shields were being used well, letterman for you are being used. so people know photographs that have been publicly available, but to propose around documents. i'll stop you that i'll just, i'll stop you the more from the merits as professor at harvard law school and pulled a little after the old trump engineers. and after this break, the,
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[000:00:00;00] the problem was that the new name was what i mean terms of got it. and the for the lower ability community is the check. i can be out see what we want to set up that the issue being interviewed the as utah goes there, you know me to choose what is the idea in the policy, you know, in syria,
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even though most multi c by easy, this is what is it going to get no, no, and i'm of course it only opened his he got a gun that will allow us to send anyone at all. no, that's fine. the, the the 1st time in history and the entire country's culture has been cancelled the very modern weapons cancel culture. many they ask that wonderful stuff in my life so little and when the truck,
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it just me sitting the one who puts the glue. the phrase now particularly do for us to kind of thing russian culture. and yet the worst it could be up to that i get 20 miles folks to pittsville renewal. that is charlotte phillips that go with it because i'm most of the subject to the one of them, the, the moist blood rushes created the pos 1500 years. there's no question actually condemned, reviled and reject it to sit alone and use that to put somebody at the middle of panel. there's a lot, i don't know because i don't know. she doesn't have to use it a little, some of the list. joining total condemnation, gross daily, and now includes just asking you to call skate and assess the coverage that the i need to. yeah. to invest the sheet of those things. that would be the
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w apartment, e u, the, the rabbit collapse of the ottoman empire gave the arabs hold for independence. but the colonial power. so their future differently. great britain and france agreed on the seizure of the air of lands under the guise of the so called mandate of the league of nations as follow play cause particular indignation in a rack, which was to get under the control of the british in may 1921 wrist with claim for independence broke out, both assuming and that she took part in it. soon the rallies turned into
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a real uprising against the invaders. more than 130000 people took up arms. britain urgently began to transfer reinforcements to a rack and used aircraft where it is war. secretary winston churchill urge the use of chemical weapons against the rebels. and general ser i on their hel dane bordered the destruction of any village where weapons were found. burning a village properly takes a long time, an hour or more according to size paulding recalled cynically. in his memoirs, the mediaeval girl, the paid off, the revolt was crush. however, separate his empire had to make serious concessions. in 1921, it recognized the solve the 1st as the king of a rag time gave part of the power to representatives of the local population. v. a
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racket revolt marked the beginning of the national consolidation of the country and became an important milestone on the way to final independence. the welcome back to going on the ground. i'm still here with the full of the trump lloyd america's professor at harvard law school in alter the new book, the war against the jews have to end masses, barbarism press, alan, josh events we were talking about. well, you said you have photographic evidence alpha the atrocities on october the 7th. but now that we have a upwards of tens of tens of thousands of children palestinian skilled. you haven't changed your mind at all about what is going on, even though the countries, which is the buying the weapons to israel. clearly the populations that the populations in the united states daily attending against israel, a wide stress in my view because of the numbers. let's take the numbers,
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let's assume the palestinian authority. that is, a mazda is right, that there are $30000.00 totally killed. they don't distinguish between say wrong as a commence, 13000, according to israel. our direct combat is that we've, 17000. we're gonna have to deduct from that the number of people who've been killed by eric rockets, for example, the one that was sent to the hospital. we know hundreds would kill by and islamic jihad rocket. we have to take away from that civilians who would voluntarily human shields or allow their homes to be used to build tunnels or allow their homes to be used to fight on most people. if we get that down, probably either or a foot board number of, of civilians killed and terrace killed. in other words, the ratio is probably about $12.00 to $13000.00 of each. that is the lowest ratio civilians, bigger bands in the history of urban warfare. there has never been an army that has
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killed, fewer civilians and fewer children. remember, children is defined by a mazda is any 119. they recruit their terrace, 131415161718. so many of the so called children are terrorist. the same thing is true of the women, just because you are a woman doesn't mean you're not a terrorist. and so many of the women who are killed or actual terrorist or complicit in terrorism. and when israel has the best ratio of civilian to lowest ratio of civilian took a band desk and that's called genocide. it shows you have no idea what the meaning of genocide is. genocide is the live partly willfully targeting an entire well that really will get all the jet aside. the 2nd but high reps, these riley paper herad sociology professor to be able to do. most of israel has said that the ratio is significantly higher than the average civilian deaths tool in all conflicts around the world and the 2nd level for the 1990s. as regards of lindsey, calling with the razor, and when you talk about children, i got
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a list here. i have a the actual list here of one after the other of people, children, infants, 0 years old, one years old, 2 years old, 3 years old. i mean, i got this right here, i've got the names of all these people then, or 80, or i'm do they have a list of the 1000 or 2000 children. but from a total of $30000.00 people killed, that still makes it the lowest ratio of civilians, 2 combatants in any history. and i challenge any, well, this is a 3 or the account was in gaza. 2012 to 2022 ratio of civilian death tells us 44 percent major decline to 33 percent operations yield in error in the 1st 3 weeks of this current operation and 61 percent. but let's just take, i mean, aside from all these contested by both sides, the district, the actual woods off say, president gets, i could still go, i think, you know, the president of israel, i know quotes it is an entire nation who are responsible this rhetoric about
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civilians, so professionally the rhetoric, both of us are arguing about supposedly not being involved is absolutely untrue. and we will fight until we break their backs. and of course he's really defenders enough to is right. god that has declared war and his real gotta is and unit gaza is real off of who my children. so asked the majority of godson's support, what, how much did the vast majority of the west bank did? and what president hurts, i've nearly said is there is responsibility in the way the german people are responsible for the nazis, the japanese people responsible for what happens there. and, and yes, when you elect people as the guidelines elected a mouse, and the boss acts on your behalf and committed atrocities, there is collective responsibility. that doesn't mean there should be collected punishment. that doesn't mean that there are some people should be killed. and israel goes to great lengths to avoid the joint of civilians more than any other
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country. they give warnings, they tell in advance were their attack is going to be and yet civilians are killed because they used as human shields. when you used to go as human shields, civilians die as i fred, as no evidence or human fields as being there basically saying, but i mean that argument can go on and on. yeah. but in your book, and you would just add, mentioning the 2nd world war violence, i mean the, the file bombing of tokyo with the bridge bombing of dresden, i know it used, i've never heard of them being used as excuses for the war. nobody's using, i mean, if anything, these are atrocities that i mean the film oppenheimer, they may when the off. cuz it's not so much the 0 schumer and i guess like you were necessary. some people debate whether they should have happened to tool the bombing of dresden and so. and whereas you, again and again say they were clearly necessary in the fight against knots is a and i oppose. i was opposed to the bombing of dresden,
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i'm in favor of the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, vomiting a fever, she, mercedes, more than a 100000 american lives of soldiers. you know, that's the point. there was already a deal with russia as late as dorians are found, or later. when japan did in pearl harbor, you put your stability as at risk and military to make decisions. i would not have supported the decision on that. exactly. but it's real doesn't do. there is real, is engaged in efforts to try to destroy how much they have the right to do that. that's part of american policy. that's part of british policy, this part of nato policy. israel has the right to destroy how much it should do in a way that the how much has the right to destroy israel. then under 2334, and the right to struggle in un general assembly resolution 3743 rate and b head and assault and kidnapped intake has told you about the beheading. there's no evidence your lawyer knew. you have to develop the evidence and i and i
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saw the picture i had, i know the person is head it's, it's online. his head was over just for sale for 10. that was none of this been validated by the official un reports into a trust is and it has been validated and it's absolutely true. i sat next to the father crying his eyes out, showing me the picture of the sun. well, the white house has walked back by miss robins original, so ad for $10000.00. you destroy your own credibility when you dispute that. when do you disagree the race? when you dispute the use of human shields, you destroy your credibility. you just will be either below clearly like a hi there. remember nazis? the $9.00 cost the so many years and that destroyed their credibility. and anyone who says there was no rage. anyone who says there is no human shields does not
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deserve to be less than 2 on any other subject. their credibility is gone. okay, well, we haven't seen the evidence. the new york times is walking back earlier pieces and then you know, without the use of rape at quite the opposite, i read a new york times that there been efforts by some radical head to israel, people to get them to walk it back and they have refused to walk it back, they're standing by their view in the us standing by issue that there is clear and convincing evidence that is a very high because there that's no evidence of rates, not only rates individually, but rates as a policy of a boss, which is one of the worst, why is this folks pass the room keyboards gary rejecting these kinds? why is it a family of the one family of the woman who is allegedly reg said, this is not true. why the new york times publishing? there's a lot of this exposed by the grades and of course, max bloom and tools. uh, a max out of that big ex blumenthal is a big it,
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these bonanza israel from the very beginning. he is not to be to sit and there are many others who are not to be trusted. look at the photographs. the, the videotapes, the israel has produced at the times, relied on looking at what the united nations relied on. you will see clear and convincing evidence as far as the know i read the whole report and they clearly say they collected no evidence. that is the words of promoting that happened this week . why? oh, tunnels, underneath hospitals, if they weren't using the hospitals as human shields, you know what i called these hospitals? i call the mazda tunnels, under the whole of gaza. but why put guys under siege? but anyway, fundamental to all of this is the right of the palace, getting people to struggle against a, a struggle. they were offered a state and 48 and 67 in uh, 9 uh, maybe 2, but they still have the right to um,
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sort of the la against occupation or direct me. there was an estate in 2005, there's a night in 2007, 800 omer. offered them to stay on 98 percent of the west bank. a 100 percent. is this relevant? well, and they turned it down so no, they have no right to struggle. they have a right to diplomacy. they have the right to accept a 2 state solution to argue for. but they have no right to rate at to be head agile assault as a kidnap. and to take a one year old baby and hold them hostage, we didn't even know that babies to live. no, they have no right to do that. how many children palestinian children are in is riley's james. none none. mary jane. no children in these regular general brawls. yeah, there are that you so you agree with be a friend, president hard. so what about you? i've got on there will be no electricity, there will be no food, no fuel,

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