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is that now wanting that because of a lack of clean what that food and medicine diseases are on the rise in the in bottles, region and cold spread beyond its board. as we've heard from one of those doctors and the doubts of david, the rich chapman of the israel's association of public health physicians. and he says that the health pricing st gather is not just to see many to an issue, but also so was $15.00 weeks right. to ease well from the beginning of the war. actually we were running that the issues like water, electricity, sewage treatment, a. our crew show elf costs, 1st of all of the pollution in gas out. but also for his, randy's is we know that the sewage flowing through the media to renew them. uh, according to satellites. uh, but also to sampling is really walter. there is a spread of say, a book serial, another contamination. we're talking also of, um,
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an email said that um, moving into each row, we're talking about the entering the spring and we have a different, a vector those like, let's keep those that can it transferred different to diseases, issues of public health? well, the electricity, these are, if you money down in issues, but also again, strategic things that if you're very poor, the phrase redlands, these can serve as a bridge because frankly, we all in the same neighborhood, we are living side by side and as the world will continue there be more more um contact between israelis and the people from guys i have the situation, there is a car. but right now, by the way, also for the hostages a and that's what he's thinking that it's not just the public health records, the strategic threats in we so glad to is through the prime minister. and these were a, till the copying that the floor. and we're working with the international community
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to see how we can dissipate these effects onto the comments where you can get for the details of the stories well following. now thanks for watching it and i'll see you again the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter live out. according to joe biden, america's most pressing challenge is the survival of the camp. regime is only countries, problems are largely secondary. the problem with biting an all those who support the ukraine project is the fact that you crave is already lost the
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cross. how can you crane? i'm joined by my guess. ray mcgovern in raleigh is a former c. i a analyst in washington. we have richard cook, he is a former us federal policy analyst as well as author of our country that in now and here in moscow we cross the patrick headings and he is the editor in founder of the 21st century wire. originally cross lock roles in effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let me go to you 1st here. i know i live very far away. it may be because of distance. i don't have the great the same amount of focus, but you have but a job. i didn't really spend a lot of time on ukraine. it was 1st on the, on the shopping list there. i mean, is that america is most pressing problem right now. after all, it was the state of the union. the, the speech indicated, not the ukraine. where's the top of the list to preserve the regime?
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but rather than the democratic party and joe biden, or top of the list reserve, the regime, it was quite a shouting match was actually the embarrassment. uh, the, this is about ukraine, where is particularly center call. we're gonna, i'm gonna support them. yeah. but we're not gonna put the troops on the ground as they're losing, as you already said, peter. so what's gonna happen? what's gonna happen when they lose? sure. well, we put troops on the ground. no. when we lose the war or our we can't lose the war and election year and can we? so what are we going to do? that's the problem. i fear that there's a chance that these don't these people who are advising bite and might tell them, look the old many know go would do the trick to show the russians where really, really serious here and preserved this situation until november. and that's of course, all they care about november is to target. well i, i, unfortunately,
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i couldn't agree with you more if they are in panic mode right now. and when you panic, you have bad decision making. you know, richard, the, this whole issue about $61000000000.00, i call it magic money. okay. it, because it's supposed to perform magic. there is no evidence whatsoever that kind of money or even more that will change the current status of the battlefield. but nonetheless, they want to do it is a money laundering operation. now, richard, there is nothing new about us finance here is getting rich from the depths of their fellow human beings and the destruction of nations. mean for just a historian. if you go back to world war one, it was the u. s. banks lending money to britain in france. that finance the allies and enrolled were one. most of this money came back to the united states to
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american weapons manufacturers. the same thing happened in world war 2 with the land lease programs. and on it goes, uh, every wars it to us is full on his end to the back in the accounts of us banks in the us weapons manufacturers. but so one of the things that the politicians are using to sell us on the $60000000000.00 additional money to ukraine is that 50 percent of this will come back to us weapons manufacturers. and of course, what they're telling us is that, well, this is going to create new jobs, and this not going to do that. uh, the assembly lines will keep running, creating new incredibly expensive weapons to take years to see through the pipeline . but in the meantime, the big companies that own these manufacturers or the headphones like black rock or
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state street or vanguard. uh, these companies are also engaged in something called stock buybacks. where the company itself buys just stock. it removes it from the market, and that's been a legal since it was uh, uh, declared illegal under the reagan administration, or going way back so. so to do this. so richard, what you're saying is it's, it's what you're saying. richard is good work if you can get it. that's what it's sounds like it to me. okay. but i just tell them it's a scale. it's a racket. patrick, it's already been a ray already mentioned about the boots on the ground. that's always a very interesting thing. we've had a flurry of european leaders totally embarrass themselves over the last 2 weeks, so who has troops there who doesn't have to observe the contradicting each other left, right and centre, spelt and berg. the general secretary of ne, of nato essentially now says yes,
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all this started because because of nato expansion, but can't seem to get their story straight. patrick, show their panicking. they can't get the narrative straight microns sort of through a warbler by saying that, well, we maybe need to deploy unilaterally with our baltic partners and that cause panic at nato h q installed and burg, immediately trying to walk it back. totally insisting that we are not directly involved. we are not a party to this conflict. nato has never been a party is not, and never will be a party to the comfort. of course, there are party to the all right, patrick, let me, how many interrupt you mean to interrupt you? since you mentioned the secretary general there, let me, let me read the quote here. this is in the last new cycle. nato has no plans to send troops to ukraine and nato's. not part of the to the conflict, nor our nato allies. well in the same news, i go on still talking to you, patrick, in the same new cycle we have. uh, paul, what's your visual saying? oh, yeah, there are days o troops in ukraine. i mean,
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they think this is turning into a circus is an embarrassment here. keep going, patrick. so what, what, what's happening is they'll say whatever they need to say to each other, to europeans, to each other, or nato members to each other. they're in their own sort of world, which is completely detached from the realities on the ground in ukraine, especially. the reality is there have been special forces from nato member states navy seals, british s a. s s, a special boat service, s b s. other countries, french have had leasing their uh, troops on the ground there at various points is conflict. there's us trainers are operating highmore as patriot missile batteries of all of these advisors and so forth. so of course they have boots on the ground, but they're not officially doing it so therefore, according to them to each other, they're ok. they can absolve themselves of any direction. involvement in the conflict. of course, we know that's ridiculous. yes. so, but this is where we're at right now, right. you know, we have a, it's been and mentioned that they could have official trainers there, you know,
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under and nato flag or nations flags under the assumptions. the russians wouldn't dare. i think that's pretty flawed thinking right. well, i think that the food chain has made it very clear. the 3rd troops sent in there. they will probably die. it's very clear that the russians are drawing a red line here who change even uses state as a nation address to say, look, uh this is, this is it. we're not gonna tolerate, then please, please remember, please we have nuclear weapons and actually we have more sophisticated nuclear capabilities and then you all have. so don't you get that though to understand that . so this is serious stuff and started back there. and i remember back in september, september 7th, it was nice talking to the e,
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u r lemma is all there is, is your know 14 so doors. yeah, here's the agreement a so, so uh, no toys, either bed and just watch or have friends. and then we have a square in there. oh, look what happened here says there's, oh, sure, the expense we rejected that. and he said this would be a precondition to and bathing ukraine, but we said no advice, no dice. so, you know, i call them dulcie newburgh, but a lot of my adult friends don't, don't agree with that. they're, they're embarrassed. so you have don't burg, and you have people like for you on a hill with a quite remarkable record of saying well, you know, are they want to kick us out of europe and, and new york times and here shell saying and don't let the door hit you on the way, on the way out there, you know, well, gimme
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a break. there's no indication whatsoever. and the russian troops are prepared or even want to, why would they want to publish or move for? yeah, but to me i would rate, you know, they go to richard here. i mean we've heard this again. we have to fight them over there. so we don't have to fight them here. richard, it's a pretty hollow argument right now, because if we look at the lineage of this complex here re, um, i'll put it very well. i mean, the, the, the russians, they gave them an offer him and they refused to do it. they refused to even make the, the, what the russians proposed before the special military operation is still offer to . they still refused to accept it. richard, well again, you look at the historical perspective and i want to go back and refer to by the speech you brought up initially, theater. to me it was an example of something right out of the 1984. and that was the 2 minutes hate a bite and bin is delusional,
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as he is. i and his speech writers seem to think that all i need to do is mention russia and po. and the american masses are then going to march in lock step to approve of these tens of billions of dollars going to a fascist government to, to us installed in keels in, in 2014 a. but again, along the lines of the historical perspective, this is something that i put a lot of work into in my, in my, in my book. the idea of we must fight them over there to avoid fighting. here is absolute utter nonsense. it's a lie. in fact, a war in ukraine is the result. as i think many commentators have pointed out the of the aggressive eastward expansion of nato course that's been going on
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for a very long time. actually. we can go back to the, you know, richard, i can tell you, i, i said exactly the same thing and you know what happened to me. i was thrown off twitter for 2 years for saying exactly the same as a matter of fact, to my guessing my audience, i was actually paraphrasing brock obama, and now you can say it, okay. it's really quite remarkable here, richard and hold that thought i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with our team. the the question of the nuclear love,
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seeing the most schools do, if you look on the visual do while i pull up significantly post on zillow, while it be almost getting used to what value, what do you do origin. but you also still, this is done, the newest 3 government buildings systems to build a new do what i see these the buses. the little gear limitation says this duty to do them both of the welcome back across the dock were all things are considered. i'm cute. little to remind you we're discussing ukraine, the
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okay, let's go back to richard in washington. unfortunately, had to go to a hard break and i interrupted, you please continue. i think we have to go back to the great game, which was the long term warfare that the british empire was waging against russia. going back into the mid 19th century. because russia was the center of what, uh, this guy named mackenzie or yep. later, just to make it so you're raising heartland. it's been observed that britain is even more via mentioned to us today in keeping the war in ukraine going uh, because ever since world war one, the anglo american project for world compromised and there is a project, is dependent on us for the military muscle to back the imperial plan that britain still sees itself is heading up. and i think that's really what we're looking at. uh,
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ukraine has been identified as kind of the key to control of the your ration heartland . they tried to break up rush in the 19 ninety's. it's fail because of largely up to be coming to travel is for a rush or resurgence, and that's what they're fighting against. they're fighting to break up pressure and to gain control of the ration heartland for the anglo american empire. while it continue saying richard, because felton bird talks about, you know, as or by john, moldova, and on are these, these people have griffin them patients. the problem is like if they fail every step of the way, patrick, i noticed that you were nodding your head when richard was speaking. what, why, what do you agree? this is absolutely correct. i mean, uh, this is great game 2 point oh um, you know, i think the animates between uh, britain, historically and russia certainly for some reason that plays a part in all of this. but what right now,
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i think the important thing to look at is looking at bite and state of the union speech. he said something that zalinski echoed on social media, which is that we are holding back. the russian advance is because of our aid for ukraine by insane because of the weapons were pouring and we're keeping russia from over running europe. this is basically what the prison united states has said. zelinski echoed the same thing. so clearly that's a talking point. we're holding back those russians. we're saving europe from the russian advance. when in reality, if you look at the, the, the, the data from the united nations and other groups. this is the lowest amount of civilian casualties in a conflict of this scale in the modern era. so clearly from the beginning, it's kind of obvious, although western is don't want to hear this, but russia has been meticulous in avoiding civilian casualties. hence this what they consider slow progress. meanwhile, ukraine, nato, backed by nato, have been staging provocations, further and further into russian territory and getting all sorts of different
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targets. so they're not holding back to russian advance. russia is merely being very careful. women take us in their position, but they're doing everything possible from the nato and you create a new perspective to provoke russia, to and to advance it further into ukraine. so a lot of this is propaganda. a lot of this is agitation, propaganda, or agit prop, which really that's what key of is doing now on social media. and this is backed up by the same talking points and watch it. well, that's all they have now we're talking points or i'm, i'm glad patrick brought that up because the where the front is right now. that's where ethnic russians live. rush has every reason to see the protection of civilian life. there however, there's always casualties in more. you know, re what, if it's something that you and i have talked about for years, is it, you know, when we look at ukraine, we look at the, the tragedy in, in gaza. these are a lead agendas. okay? because, you know, the president united states,
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if you had any forwarded food and honesty, integrity, just get on the phone and say, knock it off. okay. they could do that, but this president won't do it. and these 2 conflicts are not popular in the sense of what the population, these wars are a leak driven. as peter is the person is hyde bound, hardened audra race comes to mind. and you are, the proof is in the pudding. even hardliners like angela stand, then fiona hill, admit that in the, in april of 2020 to $6.00 weeks. because this thing started, there was a deal, know ukraine and nato and would talk about prime a and the rest of the stuff later there would be guarantee. okay, but no, you great, and they tell, okay, well what does that mean? what does that mean? that was the deal. does that mean russian wants to go all the way into poland and
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the world think i and the to the english channel? no, it does it. so it's admitted even by the ukrainian negotiators. they had this deal . it was about something else was about weakening russia as are in the defense secretary admitted at one point and the rest is realized that so there is an extra bleed going forward. the problem is the wires last for the us and for nato and for, for ukraine. so what's gonna happen next? in election year? no boots on the ground. how else can there it? can the west hope to just to staunch this this advance? again, i fear that these they will fight space acolytes, so bicycles are, you know, we had those are those other weapons, but now we have these little mini notes. well, why don't we, why we try one of those before the election and our show the russian, and we'll probably get to the election and show how tough we are. that is what i
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see, you know, right. i mean, they and angela's spent in the, on the hill i'm, i know the article that you're referring in foreign affairs. but you know what, ray? and i say this to my guess and my audience. if we hadn't been taken off of youtube, my main r t i, i, we did a program in real time when the assembled process was going on and we were being told, an initial deal is already been made. i ran down to the studio and said, oh my goodness, you know, and we talked about it. and then because it was never mentioned in western media, a r t as an outlet was banned, nobody heard about it because nobody reported about it. and then months, months later, they break it. it is if it's news, okay. it all of us, they were interested in what was going on there. already knew that. okay. okay, let me go to richard, i'm sorry, speech over everybody. richard. i mean, there's the united states and we've had a focus here on the u. k. they can't admit defeat, can they? they just can't do it. no, no, because the long term project is global conquest. this was decided that meetings of
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the council on foreign relations, which of course has a clone of british chatham house, a back at the beginning of world war 2. it was put in the battle plan for world war 2 and carried over into the cold war. it became the wolf of his doctrine in 1991. but it became full spectrum dominance in the early 2, thousands under under bush and then continuing under obama. and they've never backed off from that. so it's always a flight forward. as of the terms been used until the united states steps back and realize just a full spectrum dominance is a formula for endless war. uh, nothing will change and they'll keep talking and they'll keep pushing. and they'll keep seeking a new battlefront and it will go on and on and on. and that is what has to stop.
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that's what the american people must put an end to. well, you know, patrick, the, the, i have said, you know, the longer this, the more the west continues to support ukraine, the smaller ukraine becomes geographically, and it's demographics as well, in the interest of ukraine and really never been mentioned in all of this. it's always the focus has been russia, and that was, you know, uh, the, the predicate of all this was russia, gates and 2016 and donald trump go ahead. patrick. so we eat stilton burke himself was bang on we need to support ukrainian sovereignty, preserve ukrainian sovereignty. you create the tragedy of ukraine is that has been stripped of its sovereignty really from if you want to go to, to 2014. and then my don cool from that point forward and, and the introduction of all these anti corruption bureaus on micro managed by washington to cover up real corruption in fact. and so you see the sovereignty,
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ukraine being eroded to the point now where they are totally subsidized. by western funding to run their government to pay their pensions to run their military. this is the most on sovereign state on the planet right now in terms of having control of its own affairs and being able to manage its own economy. the economy shot the population has floods. they're not coming back. the territory is shrinking. the longer it goes on, the worse it gets, it's time to cut their losses. it's time for everybody to come to the table. but there's some parties that don't want that to happen because guess what? business is just too good if you're in the right point of business. and that's the main problem that we're seeing. you know, re, victor owed about that and i paid a trump a visit in tomorrow logo and an interview afterwards. the he said that trump, if he becomes present, that one penny more for ukraine. how is the white house, how the american administration and the europeans reacting to that in your mind as well, that would be disaster for the trade, wouldn't it? yeah, that'd be disaster. well, i don't need any of us,
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are gonna cry over that on this program, but keep going. i have no stock and the arms traders. you know, it's hard to understand what trump really do after what he says. nato is clearly worried about trump. but nato's falling apart anyway. yep. it to accommodate that as exist over the last 2 weeks for the front so that we're going to send some curvature. now over not read. your german say, no, you are not, no boats. underground daughter, i just bought it. so what is my home trying to do is try and pay it just as tough as buying. right. okay. and one ukraine moses by phone cuz there were or might, well, i was, i was really going to puerto divided in groups. so it's all fisher and the theater is going to become very, very tenuous and very, very, very hard to discern as the election comes,
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comes into view because somebody didn't can't afford to lower. so, i mean, john kennedy once said that the important thing is never to give another nuclear power, a choice between humiliating retreat and using noakes. ok, well that's what has come about now with respect to crate that from the russian side, that winning from the american side, they have a choice between their humiliating defeat or using nuclear weapons. and i have no confidence that those people advising bite and, and binding himself with these harden arteries. and there's no higher brush on my screen. i think i can speak, but i would make a sense of what i can shake. i think i can speak for the panel and our viewers. no, i don't think they will make the sensible decision. gentleman, that's all the time we have one, i think my guess in raleigh, washington. and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz, the next time we member process the
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the, the, after the end of world war 2, the national liberation movement. it'd be an intensified dramatically, haven't driven away the japanese occupiers. the vietnamese patriots by no means wanted the return of the former french colonizers. but brands did not want to lose the rich colony and decided to beat the opposition by board. in december 1946, a full scale war broke out. the main victory addict organization led by o g min inflicted heavy losses on the french. the invaders were enraged. according to western historians of the 250000 lives of peaceful beaten. these were on their
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contents. the colonialist widely used the practice of mass, rape of the enemy's women. as revenge on the guerrillas. in 1947, the french destroyed the village of knights rock, murdering 170 women, and 157 children. however, terror did not help. in 1954, the vietnamese defeated the french army and the decisive battle of gen, being full, almost $12000.00 french soldiers and officers, including the commander general of the cast. reese and his command staff were captured the configuration of a huge garrison at a demoralizing effect in europe. the french laughed vietnam, but they were replaced by even more violent and much stronger invaders. the americans, hard times, were awaiting vietnam again. of the,
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the they must realize that the vampire bull is ending with a very k a method that lot of important ones west. and that leaves about the shipping balance of power. the well, during this wide range interview ahead of this week, presidential election permanent human rights group, amnesty international rejects the us plan for creating a virus on colorado. off the coast of got a watchdog says sending aid by ship cannot replace the conference line for you and says more tools than had been killed in gas or in the past 4 months. that in old orbit conflicts around the world in the last 4 years it will do, i said it's quote over.

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