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much to an experience our share of humanity will discuss that i'm now joined by a medical students at a world renowned serv been director, an amount of many disagreeable views, historical students. it's a great honor and great pleasure for me to talk to her. thank you very much for giving me the time. thank you. thank you. now, you are not only one of the most celebrated, but also one of the most outspoken film directors in the world. and i think that's perhaps explained by the fact that you've got to your recognition very early. you've got to your 1st prize for your w cell, but i still want to ask if being so outspoken today, interferes with your ability to express those same things here. believe through seen in my movies, the 2 processes that were going on at the same time and the end of the century, the voice of an artist was having, you know, any more the social effect as it used to have in the 1st part. and because you had
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a 2 blogs who had a separation and which one which is the best inside, was proving the freedom to the eastern side. and when the collapse of the berlin wall came. and when the soviet union was collapsing to somehow the world was getting into the bed shave regarding the freedom of speech and freedom of expression. they, the voice of announces, could have a universally uh, uh, it could be heard. but if you go on the, on the local communities, you not have anymore any, any effect on the, on the, on the community that you knew. why? because the whole thing is just celebrate the system. if you're the best director in the world, if you're the best right that are in the you could be, sir. but the limits of this determined by proliferation of
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a different illogical tools which are just making it so massive and the, the, the decision. what to, what to make a the 1st throw is how much kind of is not how much small have to this is the same study with the cinema. send them a, has a great chance now to go a big time also because the many ways of following and netflix and other platforms image. you could see films that are very ideologically strictly controlled. and the prove, in fact, that the, you know, in united states, you don't have any more the freedom that you were looking for in the past. and at the same time, you're going to have it more in the east, or at least the same level interventions don't. that's the major issue then. then you included goods to the point in which you could say it's freedom. well,
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your phones do touch, major issues, and many of them have a sort of historical premonition filled to that to them. but i think in this respect, underground is the most striking because back in 1995 and perhaps a little bit earlier, you intended it as your artistic account of yugoslavia as history. but today, one can watch it as a commentary on the current events, particularly the problems between russia and the west in ukraine. i, i wonder if at the time you were filming it, did you have, uh, did you see that the transfer you were depicting may go beyond your former country that they would be broader? i would, i would say that in the themes of cinema that there was a and instantly in the beginning because i had belonged to a post funk. and i was never agreed with the most of the ideas of getting under
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the authority to accept the guy. and i was really a very much a boy bad boy of about canaria and including less than 0. well, that was also fashionable. it has instruction and it was uh, but uh lucky it was good because it was proofing that to be a free and somehow free in movements. the expression of i have one idea that the culture of the receipt is something that belongs to the definition of the people who ask questions in this consumer society. people like you will have a lot of people, like all these philosophers who are making plows of and the, the, we're going to take you all and you're going to be happy. even you don't have nothing which is ludicrous. absolutely nothing on that. this will last uh, you know, perhaps shorter than they last them, but depends how you will defend the rest that you know. what happens now in the
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that's and you can conflict. it's what was supposed to happen instead of be in $21999.00. when could i, you know, which is without you the parts of the $3030.00 that was from the pizza of the grades until the end of august and guardian empire. you had the serbian community, which was defending the was positioned integration, which was much smaller than it is today. and the, the end of the story was in fact uh when they started recruiting for the army of the, uh, on uh, and elizabeth or they were coming to buckboard today or at your most no seems to be at. and it's in the end of the 20th century, we had a program that a creations have by united states pushed out $220000.00 people,
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went to the survey of the biggest and the ethnic cleansing in the end of essentially. and now i see what it would have happened if we lost it was, was trying to, to, to defend service. okay. and they would put them both autonomy, bone button above it. if you go in the quite difficult way to liberate or to, to, to protect your culture, your, your language and everything that was forbidden you before you started. or did you know that at the time you were filming underground? did you have any sort of premonition or there's always, you know, from the one or 212 or 2, you have all the smaller nations and serves cooler, always paying the 2 water was going on the wrong side. but you should say wrong side today, it's not anymore. if you are in the, in less than europe,
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you cannot say that is one or 2. you could say he was bad guy and then you go to the next day to seems explanations. but you wouldn't get into the possibility to, to blame the people identifying with the, the nazi germany and before that to be the us to him regarding them by which and full and so grace a voice in the, in the muslims, they were all is gone with with germany and what happens today in the geo political mapped of se, then you'd obviously called funny, less than bulk of why something in your, in the southeast europe could be less than less than i don't understand, but it's probably some military definitions. so all these countries were recruiting with what you had when you 3 and you know, assess off and the vision from the okay went to, to,
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to graduate in 1945. and if you see it today, the guy who is great and then the in canada, together with the through though, because i think it's the most ridiculous leader in the world with the the lensky. they were doing extending relation to one of those a 1000 who lived there. so it speaks about human and see of and that's is in to the capitalistic border. and especially this kind of rootless line that was thrown always by electric gun. and the end of this kind of because it doesn't really sick idea of moving towards these, which was even names that i'm left most them have. now at the corner of this i do is bleaching of humanity into super people and other people or splitting uh, you know, besides the into good and bad. and i think this is one of the strongest appeals. if you are the,
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you always very methodically show that the good and evil are always intertwined, both in the human psyche and in politics. and in my opinion, one of the reasons we are where we are is this not just the claim of dominance by the west, but the claim of moral superiority, or some russian court. the mandate of in full ability. the west believes authentically that they are on the right side of history. i'm can make no mistakes, and i don't think that wouldn't be possible for the russians or for the service because of our tradition of sort of luminous soul searching. we do see our shadow. we do see our evil in ourselves. that's what you know, our little shower films are open about. but what i want to ask you about is, why do you think the west of this point is not only capable of that, but does it so genuinely believing that all the good is preserved for, for the west and all the bad is on russia side. it's the question of a been done english on it, the only religion that has
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a social expression in social meaning, you know, there is no other religion that it gives you a chance to develop secular state. you have a secular states in the 0, which was develop things to the less than the improvements or eastern improvement and thanks to the use in, in, in the 5th century has found the low. and he was the 1st one who made the, the called, the low code, and from a 1054 we have this, a 2 types of sites is separated. one that goes up to the, to the uh, the restroom and the which is impossible. that's why you have a crisis today because they believe that the everything the same skills so says the rational conclusions are never made just but by it actually. now let's see
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a people, a man is never so rational that could be just following the protestant ideas. plus, what do we have today? this kind of unity of the action that is taken by those who believe the privilege which is a process. the zion is a church in, in america, and the, and the common sense of missy and the k, the they've found. and that's why we always suffer. but in suffering, we find a way to defend themselves. and in the be leaving the privilege, the superior a nation chosen people, however, they called even they could throw finish 3 that even jesus maddox and everybody was coming from this part of the world. but there was no just what the a mathematically believe it is. absolutely. well, mr. castillo, so we have to suffer a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments association. the,
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the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community. best of all sense and up the in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission,
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the state on russia today and supports the r t. suppose that keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the welcome back to world to portsmouth serve and director medical started to district was the reason before the break. you started talking about the rationality and there are certain things that are simply inexplicable to me. for example, the, the issue of fear in europe. because russia is greatly feared in abstract. it's considered to be a great that to me right now. but recently, for example,
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our team got hold of that wire, top conversations of german military commanders, official german military commanders discussing the bombing of the crime in bridge. and there seems to be no fear of remove vacation that russia would be necessary to respond to something like that. how do you understand the, the workings of this emotion of fear in the europeans psyche today? because it seems to be very present at a certain level and to, to absent at other levels. i don't think that the, this is, the humanity was always people who are always good thing fit on the carpet, then feel the fire comes very close to them. but you have to, there's one of which is at least a bunch of but that informed you have a ability to penetrate into the $3030.00 of your enemy. the problem in that actually, i think is that you, russians with you want to live
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a life which is done those more or less like any of us in the country. you like to be 0 ever been in to everybody. if you go to task and you don't believe that you are in the east part of the world and apparently woke down the city just seen visit the buildings the same like like the other. so this is one point. but the other one is that the, this superiority that they have a, it's mainly expressed through the possession they want to possess your country. they want to possess your, you around you. they want to possess your guys. they want to at least share why you haven't seen it was good for them because he was just opening all the doors. but the problem with them is they do not understand that the, the, the, the, the, the, the connectivity sticks of people who they are dealing with as much as you press there, there will come out. the problem is going to be how to put better back to,
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to his place, and this is a plane. this is a very dangerous game. i think they play. well, i think it's typically dangerous, but it is also a, it's dangerous for the bear itself because i, i hear a lot of discussions here in russia and people do not understand how to do with europe. rationally. we talked about the french and the germans before, and they happened to be the people who once send their armies to russia to that own device. i am talking about the 19th and the 20th century, and now the french and the germans. yet again, a leading discussions within the e mail about sending major troops to russia, even though russia is much larger then and the new and much better equipped is strategically also much more, much better prepared. so i wonder if you have any sort of advice i guess for the russian leadership on how to do with us because they seem to be a lot just
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a rational. but sometimes they caught a family. why would you deal with the video? because, you know, i mean, based on the major trips to i, this is great. and this decision that goes on united states, you know, if the entity of european union is getting into the new phase of getting rid of the same energy. it's me is that there is a big mistake inside this system. jeff bezos is sending stuff through amazon and making appropriate the 44000000000 invest in europe. and thing though, texas a google never paid one penny of texas microsoft. something smaller. so we are speaking about the tools which open a to today's world. i think it actually has to work on its own google, on its own system and the network which is going to make your 3030 much morning dependence of them. that's the, the, the, the,
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the french and german idea is not the french and german idea. it's a heavy duty, a deep state that is organized through the channels that function for the last 300 years and making you more or less lately, not from the beginning of a operative throne, thrown washington, and from the, from the, from the people who govern them. so when i think this is a display, the fear or this is a tough american decision to go the way that napoleon was going, he was going and then we know what will happen. now let me, i will self care about serve him because i think one of the victims of russia supposed to be survey your country is a try not to be more certain than the sorts. in other words, have boundaries, wants to sit onto stools and accidentally falls in the middle, let it be,
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it has to face the consequences of its own decisions. but there's also recognition that russia has historical ties. when discerned been people rather than currents or been that leads and those have to be one teams. how do you see a mature, respectful relationship between belgrade and laska at this time? what shouldn't be like? you know, what i believe is one thing. what leads and people who are dealing with the economy also an influence or influence or but you know, in the country has and it leads investing you to be somehow is connected to the, the source of a good then economic relations. a rational has a great, great experience of serbia in 1990. and i think most of the elements go see there before we will start submitting through a probation. ukraine was coming out of the bombardment of bell rays,
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so it's better to be making a chest movement before somebody comes. that's why they are very, very angry with it. so that's why they are making the russians the, the, the biggest evil on the other. but this is what was part of the previous question, cuz genesee's is connected to the bible to biblical times. biblical times are behind the best in world. and in alaska, you are still sleeping about how much of this kind of commodity life comfort, the real life will allow you to be as much of the looks as you are. but i think you're going to have a choice because you stick to the rules of the game that were given to you from the beginning of the 17th century. you cannot go, you cannot go backwards and say, no, i am not until looks like this. you lose the pattern meter of the future. what is
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the problem instead of the future? well, the civilizations, what the player with is into its own religion, they will prevail. now one of the specifics of orthodox christianity appears in live here is this emphasis on inner honesty. you know, you have to know what or to let yourself know what you know about yourself and the world. and this is something that allows for monday, if the incorporation of also your own it will in practical working on the evil inside your soul. and this is a hard proposition in this day and age when we well, many people leave narcissistic. or as you said, very materialistic life, but at the same time, there are many other people in many other parts of the world who seem to be a resume. thing with this, with this message. do you think it could be attractive? let's say not, not for the western part of the, perhaps for other parts of the world. i think the major issue is how your heart
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resonates. what kinds of frequency is it that your hard present? it isn't your humans. i mean, we all have 13 to 14 favors as long as humans belong to different cultures. and this is a no very sharp division in between those who belong to one culture or another. and is you, are, you belong to the religion events, the given chance to redeem yourselves to, to, to forgive, to, to have all this protocol that of consenting is. and it's just an after life i mean, or sex christianity or promises in today right now. yeah. they, you good luck with you, good 1st year. so if you could just get you could clean yourself and try to do. and that's the biggest issue of that is of the individuals are facing today. if you don't believe in god as an even kind of mazda of says everything is possible, if you believe in god, and that's what is been dangerous. i think the rest of the world is counting on
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within is uh christianity. and i am afraid that they also calculate the he's a eastern christian. he might be not be using the most devastating weapons. well he in bed or not. uh, but uh, as i say, okay, i but the, this calculation was one of the reasons why they pushed so much into your brain because they didn't think that he would go into your cream, given the dress between the rest and you know that she was always come little bit late but they always come. this is one of the, one of the premises that we have in the balkans. you know, you have a very vivid, a social every night in serbia in which you have exactly the same number of people on televisions and impulse goes close speaking for us and again, special ed and those we speak again semester. our parts of this plan is gonna be
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bigger surveys, that sort of is our, which is a part of me to, of, i would say very diplomatic, a very diplomatic approach. but diplomatic approach is not essential approach to, to, to the hardcore problems that we have about some must be sometimes the bigger so being then so be as, uh, because the, the, the, as an employee and it was saying that we don't have to allow russia to have a finger of then you blew it. so connection in between sylvia and, and the russia is very much, deeply rooted into the history. is the history of k e, not in sylvia. which was, it is the water for the new soldiers who are the end of the existence of today, and we're supposed to be under her guardian glow and lose all their property. and they started making what was called instead of being who sort of ski, polk,
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the people who came to the us to almost or know a saturday and creating society over there and fighting for, for, for russian. now i don't have a time to ask you about your current, the artistic pursuits. i want to ask just one short question. you seem to be a very uh, well, quite pessimistic in your commentary. uh noon. is there anything or what to give you? and then give them the speaker ration for immunosuppressive instict like this. the school was not, you know, this is who was speaking very often about even about the war or something that comes as a necessary of the, the way that people communicate and boost a laptop. the theater a to booze, the fight against dickens. fight against old. what is in the peaceful time of what's going on? i'm the i'm, i'm a, a skeptical but other than the pessimistic the walls will be separated in 10 years
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. in a between i would say this kind of people who believe into a know god's, the satanic, i think the, the somehow the, the, the, the devil will prevail because there is no, it's like a male or female relationship. if you have a quality, then you lose the balance, then there is no balance. but if you, if you stop thinking into mit, the 4th or well, the bible image of jesus was a then tempted by, by the level. and if you start thinking that being beverly is a good, one of the another prize winner told me, you never a, you'll never get a demon. absolutely out of you, because it's important to be kind of resistant to him by having be so few inside. and now if the developments will be uh, with the old is the new religions with all this stuff that they're developing in
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the rest. the question will be which parts of the of us will be giving the, sinking those for their own civilization. and i see more and more pessimistically optimistically, that has to a 3 way on, on protecting its own civilization because of this separation in between, within the real issue of separate it's really, it's mistaken. but if you allow yourself to gets rid of what is bad in you and try to be a making a common sense with the rest of the people by doing the same. then you have this kind of collective. and this, that the chinese had the before, even individually the but actually is exactly how afraid road in between a society that is developing individual development and the freedom which
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is now into that and in the rest. and collectivism, which is the church absolutely say well we are striving for the balance between personal dignity and social connect. finance. i think this is a you know, ultimately what the oldest aside is trying to figure out, but we have to leave it. there has been an amazing talking to you. thank you very much for them. both of us and thank you for watching hope to hear again. there was a part of the one you ended up to at that point, but at the extra ma,
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apache sat there for the show event, it will be a job loss for the cause of a dish. international stuff is defensive to separate the system but to not to printer and i thought someone did you lose it, ask you that. if i said the media and that'll be focused on you to reason could you say was, would you say the new country can piece of us to be presented? it was working more than willing to work. a don stimulus the industry. is it or what's money before the sales dealer? sure, sure. william farmer shots might give us. so we have court cost or to go over what decision did my lab and what was that man was the ones i've been thinking left on is i put in, does it? what is the best one to am, but you know, so that's what it is that you want to set. i'm sure tools are pretty sure jimmy was on page duty for. she's getting those are the best do what i mean?
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