or boats on the ground off the coast of taiwan. did you know that? once again, we must ask the question we've asked before, are we trying to start one or 3? i'm rick sanchez. this is direct impact. the we are hearing again that there is a possibility that whistleblower julian hassan who has been in captivity or on the run for the better part of the last 12 years may finally be given his freedom. nothing confirm. nothing confirmed, but according to the wall street journal, the us justice department is thinking about possibly reducing the charges against him to a misdemeanor. the charge would simply be mishandling classified information if that were to happen. the man has been in a british prison now for telling the truth would be freed. and why does this matter? how does this matter?

it matters because while most members of the media and or our government even to this day, still don't want to talk about the horrible things that our government did in our names in iraq and afghanistan and places like that assigns did. he did talk about those things, it was because of him that we learned that in many cases are very compromised political leaders. some military officials are very wealthy contractors were essentially lined to us. if done for him, we don't know. let me give you some examples. there was a case, there was a case in baghdad, this is 2007 to employees of writers disappear to employees disappear. i mean, they work for a western media company, right. one was a driver, the other was a photographer. he was, they were both there, they were covering the story in baghdad, which he likes, and others began reporting that they may have been killed by our own military. the

2 guys, your reporters, are working as a part of the media. but our government lied to us about that from the very beginning. how do we know? because wiki leaks, release the video, the one that i'm about to show you again, just to remind you on the video, you're going to see how these men they were on arm. they were there. 6 asking questions, they were talking to people, they were on the street. suddenly they're shot from the sky. but from a us gunship helicopter. totally unfair vote. and you will see on fortunately, how much the man shooting them down are seeming to enjoy themselves. they joke and they laugh, you know, it almost sounds like they're playing a video game. and then you're going to see how, what, what an ambulance shows up. it's a van that you'll see on the video. i'm telling you what you're about to say. the scene is ambulance vantage. it arrives to take the man to the hospital. the

soldiers in the us gunship fire at the ambulance to finish them off. here it is. $18.00, half, $56.00 individuals. 47 out of all of the q 60 not damaged by the by the shoot. claire claire. oh yeah, they're good at right. there's a way to go frequency. yeah . they were laughing. it's. it's not about being anti us, it's not about being pro signed folks. it's about being pro truth. it's about

transparency. it's about learning from our mistakes. that's all. i mean, do you watch this video? i mean, we hear the soldiers laughing when they're witnessing, one of the tanks run over a body there. do you hear that at the end? so here's how much younger assigned, by the way, reacted to this video in an interview. he did obviously much earlier with the elders here. here it is. so you see these young pilots acting like they're playing video games only the high schools that are getting with real human lives. i mean, if they were doing things like that, we should have known right. we, we, we, we want to know those things if nothing else to correct the behavior assigned to the western media has called divisive, is fighting a, drawn out legal battle with the british government to avoid being expedited to the united states. if he were to be sent to the us, he could be tried for publishing, thousands of confidential us military records and diplomatic cables,

which embarrassed the us government. let's face, let's call it what it is. but a sanchez lawyers are now saying they are intox. admittedly, they are and talks to possibly come up with a resolution, according to people who are familiar at this point with the us just state department. and this case there seems to be a softening in the us as previous hard line position. what exactly does that mean? this very pollock is a lawyer for a search. he has said that he has been given no indication that the department will take this deal, but they're talking about. the justice department is not commenting at this point. we thought it was important to share this with you if they do come up with some type of acceptable compromise. if they do, one would think it might have something to do with the public backlash that's been expressed worldwide against a sondors and present them as well as the situation that's going on right now. we're, our government is being criticized for things like what's happening in ukraine.

what we've done in gaza, our history in iraq, afghanistan. so all those comes into the picture, i think joining me now to talk about this as active as professor and lawyer, dan, kamala, and radio hoss miss misty winston. she is a calls for the action for a sondra streaming on youtube dance. let me start with you. and your lawyer, what do you make of these negotiations that are going on with the us department of justice? indeed, i think they will break. well, we'll see, you know, so i'm, his wife is said that you know, she and julie and would oppose any deal that would require him to plead guilty because he, they don't, he's guilty of anything. neither do i of course. and the other thing is that at least that i understand is one of the things being floated is a deal on which if you would agree, he would plead guilty and get like 14 years. that would mean he'd still have a years left because he's only been in jail for 5 years. no. so let's talk about

the misdemeanor thing. i mean, i know a misdemeanor is a slap on that here, and that's like, uh, you know, uh, j walking, right? i mean, i would think he and his lawyers would say, you know, fine, i read some documents, i probably shouldn't look that right. yeah. and i mean, i would take the deal. i mean, he's again, he's been in jail 5 years before that. remember, he was hold up in the ecuadorian and embassy me in london for a number of years. i mean, so he's been in kept it too many a long time and according to his father has been visiting emmy's, not in great physical or psychological shape. so yeah, that would be good and it needs to be pointed out, by the way, the guy's been in jail 5 years without being tried on his charges. he's not being accused of any violent grime. there's no reason he shouldn't be out of fail, or he shouldn't be under house arrest through the little bracelet on his ankle that he's been held for 5 years without trial. that isn't about the nation that he

really didn't, cir. another day talking about. yeah, talk about it into your constitutional mistake. let me bring you into this conversation. i'm almost getting a sense that there's a lot of pressure on the u. s. government right now from people like yourself, like you and others. not to mention everything going on. geo politically right now that puts us, i think in a defensive position where what look good to bring this guy in and throw them in jail for the rest of his life as well. and especially during an election year, i think that the by the administrator has in a very precarious position right now. their approval rating is in the toilet. they have a situation happening now in gaza, which has caused a world wide or option of backlash and protest against that nice things that they are desperate for a some kind of a p r boost. i'm kind of a when i think we do need to be very skeptical about this potential rumored offer. again, these are anonymous sources. we don't know for sure exactly what's been offered or any of that stuff. so i think we need to be incredibly skeptical. there is a possibility here that they're just floating this out there in the public to either make vs ons, legal team,

comment on it. and if they decide that it's not acceptable, that then makes it look like it's, it's his fault that he remains in prison and it kind of relieves them of that responsibility. and it could also just be that they are a trying to get some kind of a p r when, where it looks as if they're being more reasonable on this issue. so i mean the but so no but, but, but regard, i mean, oh, any talks are good dogs, right? i mean, i've always been, i was a journalist and you know, somebody who has watched these kinds of things in the past. any time you have 2 people in a room talking, you're more up to get some kind of solution. don't you agree for sure. yeah, no, no, no, i think for sure that the talks are good. i think that the any time that there's dialogue that taking place that i think we need to be mindful of the intention behind them, what they're, what the game is that they're playing. and also if it's something does take any kind of a plea deal and listen, i'm not saying that he shouldn't, the man has been objected the psychological torture for over a decade. his health is failing. if it is what he feels isn't his best interest in his family in the end, you know, in no position to judge him for doing that. but the implications on the future

across freedom are there and we need to be mindful of that pan. do you think i'm going to hit you with the same question i asked most because i'm getting a sense of right now. our government, this place we call the united states of america is kind of in a week in state, in terms of how the rest of the world. and especially anybody under the age of like $45.00 sees us because of ukraine because of gaza because of so many things that are going on and because of assigns are those the things that are moving perhaps this conversation to this we hope fruition. i think i think so. yes, i think they have to all be seen is, is one bundle. i think the guys are protest of chase and by the end the nose now being called genocide. joe. yeah. the idea of julian, aside showing up on an airplane and handcuffs into the united states, would not be a good look for the president at this time. the other thing that wouldn't be a good look, look, and i've said this for years and so it's why they've tried to really string this

along just extradition. this is that, you know, if this goes to trial, julie decides will be able to call all kinds of former, you know, a big wigs from the, from the government. you know, department, you know, hedges, the depart. oh and wait. that video i just showed just to make my point about once he did that was so wrong videos like that, disclaimers like that. so that'll be out there everyday for people to look at. yes . so they don't want this trial, you know, and again find doesn't want the optics of assange being extradited here. so i think all these protests that are happening mostly you focus right now in palestine are having impacts on stuff like julian decides across, is all to the good. of course. well, you know what, here's what i'm going to do. when we come back, you guys stick around because when we come back, i want to talk about something that also has to do with the 1st amendment. in particular, the us supreme court questioning freedom of speech. let me say that again. the

folks who are supposed to defend the constitution are questioning the 1st amendment of the constitution. we're going to talk about that. when we come back, the, the,

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the to the hey, welcome back. how much sanchez? so let's stay with the 1st amendment, because if you defend the 1st amendment, you almost have to defend julia massage right? you have to but it is our understanding and our appreciation of the 1st amendment dwindling somewhat. you'd say in the case of a solid, you probably is. why would journalist not be coming to his defense like so many art? is it being question also by the very people whose job it is to protect it? actually. yeah. it is. it's a matter of fact just this week the supreme court, whose job it is to interpret and that's, that's really defend the constitution of the united states of america actually made some comments. a couple of a one in particular made some comments that seem to suggest that maybe it doesn't

think all that much of the 1st amendment. maybe it's not so important. after all, you know, they were hearing a case on whether the government, the bottom administration, in this particular case has the right to make media companies take down information that it thinks is dangerous or doesn't agree with that comment. for example, can people post negatively about vaccinations because they don't believe in them? or should the government have a right to go in there and say, nope, can do that. have a right to prevent them from doing so for the public. good. here's justice. good, tiny, brown, jack, some member of the us supreme court seeming to suggest that maybe maybe we ought to push freedom speech aside in, in, in some cases. so my biggest concern is that your view has the 1st amendment, ham, stringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods.

i mean what we, what would you have the government do? i've heard you say a couple of times that the government can post its own speech, but in my hypothetical, um, you know, kids, this is not safe, don't do it is not going to get it done. i was truly taking it back. then again, i'm a journalist, i've been trained as a journalist, i went to school at the university of minnesota, the eric's ever had school of journalism to study journalism. the 1st amendment is ingrained in mind, so new. and when i heard or said that say that my job dropped dan lawyer to you. yes, very concerning. and of course it has to be noted. this is a liberal, a point to you, right? this is a liberal member of justice. but, you know, here's the sad part, is that too many liberals have become very liberal, especially during cove. it, a lot of liberals seem to back the idea of censorship during co, would, you know, they didn't want to hear people talk critically about vaccines and masking in that

sort of thing. and, you know, that was very disturbing to me. you know, during a time we needed very robust debate over these things and over locked downs. we didn't get up. and there was a lot of suppression of speech. and again, it, ironically, it was the liberals pushing it. you know, now you have the c o u which frankly, isn't that even interested in free speech anymore? um, so who's going to watch the watchman? this is a very disturbing thing if you mentioned, yeah, that's why it does. wouldn't you say that? you know, when we think about these things, i think misty we were taught. i don't know if you have the same background as i do . but as a journalist, no means no. it's an absolute protection that we have in the constitution. it says government shall make no law. let me say that again. government shall make no law. what i heard just as good, tiny saving to the jackson,

the seeming to say is and occasionally government can make a law in the amount what you're yes, maybe a little while here and there is a treat. uh, it's absurd, right? like this is so ridiculous on every, on every level and you're right, and i think that this obviously stems from the cupboard situation and that's what they want a sensor. but we've seen over the course of the past 34 years now that the so called authoritative sources were almost always the ones who were wrong. almost always the ones who were posting the misinformation. it's safe and effective. it remember, it was 90 percent effective, then it was 80 percent effective, then it was 60 percent effective and then suddenly it's not a active really now at stopping transmission. so i, the idea that we have a supreme court justice arguing for basically the dissemination or, or the destination of the 1st amendment is a really just kind of blows my mind. that that's the level where we're at right now . have you thought about this, the mistake that maybe is different? does she have a case to be made when it comes to social media, as opposed to legacy media?

have you thought that through how, how are they different? what should you not be allowed to do, for example, on twitter, that maybe you can do if you're, i hope i'll say that is because we were talking about it during the break. if you're done limit on cnn, for example. i don't think that there is any difference. and again, frankly, like i just said, it was the legacy media that got it wrong. and that usually does. and frankly, that usually lie to us. i mean, how many wise, or how many words have a ride us into how many situations? i mean, if there's no question about it, the legacy media has been completely corrupted. so it is often times them that it's telling us eliza dismiss, informing us. but most of the time on purpose. so i think that there really is no substitive difference when it comes to the 1st amendment. well, let me try one more time with you. then on this day i'm going to try and defend her argument. all right, since i'm disagreeing with her, i want to defend her in this case. what, what about the possibility where they. busy say a bunch of bad people get together on twitter or on the i don't know, a tick tock or something and they all try to convince us of something that's not true and they lied. it was, and they tell us,

i don't know something about the vaccinations or something about china or something about anything else. and then we have protect ourselves from these evil people. you say what i think the idea is always been the truth will out that if you allow people to have free discussion, that's how the best result will come about. and i agree with that. um, yes, there's always room for manipulation, but it's missed. he says it's often being done by the mainstream media, by the legacy mean. yep. i think you're absolutely right. by the way, i want to bring in something else. now, i want to go to cuba. this week, there were several demonstrations in cuba. people there took to the streets once again to complain about hunger, electricity cuts, and to generally not have tunnel depressed economy they're on the island, which of course many of them blame on their own. 1 government, but then the president of cuba, speaking of government miguel b as that come out who, who is not a media hungry like his predecessors, the castro brothers were then take to the airwaves. he talked to an

n b c news reporter who's on the island. and he addresses this very topic, the, the, the the you know, it's interesting, according to president diaz canal, what cuba is continuing to suffer through are the consequences of the us government's heavy hand. he says the us state department has been interfering and cuban affairs for 60 years and uses. it's my bridge and it's embargoed to do everything possible to hurt the cube it economy. one thing is certain, by the way, which the president is right about, the us at least politically, seems to benefit from a week in cuba, the guaranteed political victories, especially in the state of florida. so 11 does wonder whose fault is that speaking of us interference. let me add another point here as tensions rides with china. taiwan is defense, minister has for the 1st time into the us troops,

boots on the ground, have been training on the taiwanese mil. it with a taiwanese military on some of their outlying islands out there. the defense minister did not for details of the us deployment, but he seemed to be talking about the outlying islands of the king and which you are only 3 miles from a chinese coast. is comments mark, a rare acknowledgement by taiwan confirming that us troops are on its territory up . let's do, let me begin with you. there seems to be enough cases out there even today, old case like cuba, new case like taiwan, like our government. and our sense or need for had gemini, has a tendency to want to go to places and interfere in the affairs of those governments is plain to you and shouldn't be to the rest of americans. oh, it really should be, it's not going to be because again, legacy media does not tell those stories. and so the vast majority of the american public is fully unaware of what their government is doing on any given day. mean we're seeing it right now. and ukraine, the 2014 might onto,

that's exactly how we got to the situation where we're at now and ukraine. so i think that it is a r m o. it's something that we've been doing for decades. so nobody should be surprised by it. but unfortunately, we have a very misinformed american populace is unaware of an a my to again, they are mr. acted and by 2, and this will be blamed on china and our role and it will certainly be left out of that conversation. do you see some, dan, do you see some similarities between the situation in cuba and the situation that we're now talking about that i learned about this morning in taiwan, where we're sending troops there to train the taiwan, the military against china? yeah, so mean of course, i mean, basically the us, you know, decided some time ago that it, it has the right to intervene anywhere in the world at any time for its own perceived interest that it has, you know, sold dominion over the world. you know, the fact, you know, the complying, the china for example is may, yeah. you engaged in maneuvers in the south china sea. well, it is called the south china sea writer that the diversions of iran are doing

something in the persian gulf. what is the persian gulf, but the us, you know, it, it, it presumes it is a right to intervene anywhere at any time. and it's destroying america. you know, i think it was in 19 o 5, the democratic party platform said something to the effect that the united states cannot continue. one half republic in one half and by me that are public at work full and it, it is falling because of that. the president monroe of the like that i'm not sure it works today. my thanks to both of you, dan misty. what a great conversation you guys are fantastic guess. and this has really been a, as a smart conversation. i hope our viewers enjoyed it as much as i did before we go. i do want to let you know that we have a mission here to try and talk about these things out. they open simple, really. i one of the silo the world. they've got to stop living in these little boxes where only it's over here over there,

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