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6 downs, responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards the brochure and focus enough. and this is something really hard to understand because the ukranian socialist republic was getting more financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other going south. thank you. craniums, how the offices of power nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine, crossed the way. and i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from because it's different. it just starts in 2014. it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born on the whole i was born in raw stolen, don't you have 5 when you moved in thought strange. and when i turned 5, because of always an incredibly beautiful city and went to and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory, was made to us as the one you've probably heard of the golden ring that includes lots of work. there's bloomberg that's involved now and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities. and oh,
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world famous musicians would visit the conservatories in these states a significant several times a year to give will be now called master glasses. and most of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous multiple, but either his father or his son, one of them. so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was for anastasia. it was beautiful and had its own traditions and it was something like poland movie or is it like old story out of of course it's been influenced by austria, hungary, but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards t of and that was because involves opinion, gave degree, did not post up any serious fights against moscow. the stadium used email school vice cave was well integrated into the us a song. while level of the screen, you know, one german troops entered the sits agency and they met no resistance most quite the
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contrary, the local peoples. welcome to them because they, it's a push to solve them as liberators. go what types of labor items from the soviet so far as a is my children. they had this kind of through, let's say, ro, west or i'm thinking. so from the very starting with 0 to when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children. we met everyone else smoke ukrainian as we could. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we'll have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, kind of a lot of places have their own sub dialects traditions. but it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. yes, because the great news, williams, i think, is simply to be russian. but i'm sorry if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st with this to be number one, number 2 families. and that's all there is to which to me, but we are the same people. how many families out there are like this is
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a russian husband, ukrainian wife duty or vice versa. and they've got the children were just a little 0 overall. i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue which i'm only thing, it's which explains why this bubble finally burst. the bubble has always been there . so you sound to involve russians were, show, was a not always treated in a friendly way. but in salzburg, which you also mentioned thinks might be moving in the same direction to the corner . i wanted to mention salzburg because it was there that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument and yes, you were given the owner as someone from a unique contribution to the history of music. i grew reading. dr. viola can also be a sallow instrument that that was in 1990. if i'm not mistaken. do you think a concert like that would be possible today, both on your part and on the part of austria? so it was more anything is possible,
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cause the cause and informed me that there was a time i don't remember the year is exactly new going to happen. and when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense, i mean in cuz you have with them. and i believe i was a 1st year students at the conservatory at that time, june gotten a gift card. it was also then would invite the legendary so these musicians fee as last so use, do you mean i know and middle dealers and loan and cogan would go there and some of the younger ones too much think it was the bush and even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively conduct a whole. you thinking this possible a contract, just the woods and that is why i say everything is possible and they've been today . the question is the whether it's necessary, whether the person himself wants to go past public concert in salzburg. yes, it was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given that opportunity to hold mozart's viola in my hands to play it between their school and
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the wonderful coincidence. but ultimately, his viola turned out to be a brother of my own instruments that were both made by the same viola crossman to about 3 years about. i don't remember which is older. you think? well, if you were offered the same opportunity today, would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy and diploma may fewer a gallery more alive know and they were offered to go to moss. what would he do most the silver ones i've done so many. that isn't isn't a good thing is that the new screw me? well, i know i am may be paying the most here the budget garden is my namesake of troll square. all sorts of like a garden at heart, you know, they'll want to be champions. he has to be number one in sports and music and all with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago when they did good things, we came up with a competition for young composer,
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some place you go for you. so we've received 69 application so far doing it and one of the winners, by the way, it was a crate in there were still, though, is it safe for him to go back home? no one someone was i think isn't most co at the moment, but he still has a great in passport. you never changed it. i haven't met him personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize so i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the patron saint of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon, she died in march or his death for refusing to account his fav in favor of the roman gods. at least according to the christian tradition. i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase for
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its cultural and historical legacy. as well as for the right to choose its own cloth. but that's what i think. i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context with the parents need to just please don't laugh humans cuz so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave of a magic wand if blood in my purse, in where the president of europe told of europe, but at least don't scare of yours ended of america, and then the world's most. it only goes as p actually let me see personifies the good. the thing is, today's conflict is also valid. evil, the fights and evil. it's about the good. yep. yep. and the good, as we see is of course success. and i certainly understand a while america wants to rule view russell, this opportunity is the state and let's make it a twice the price less blue or even more north of so if the field,
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but all this about the market is to do. and if there are also people everywhere is good, they've got the governors in every district and lots of specificities. and the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you go to manage fronts. germany, they totally spain and so on. and users and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one can. i think president clinton has no ambitions to forward you over the level. ask him to be, well, i think it's probably i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. it's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you as a person distinguished with multiple international awards, including a grammy, a very one acquaintance with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the russia as it is on? if not in terms of partnership and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of
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acknowledging that were equally valuable, that we have the right to be the way we are comfortable doing it. but why do i think they think that oh yeah, i should probably ask them yes. it does, it does, you know, going to use it with your ask me we have to come up with all i can give is my opinion of them. so the put, for example, i like customer, french, wine or even cold cuisine. doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you, and i like to tell in wine and food. you know, the wine is amazing and i'm willing to learn it to their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in fashion, in tokyo, when you are writing and the elevator you just, when you said tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the facts, much on the japan, is that now not very friendly to russia. and one for they simply did not reset the settings. yeah. hold on to know who wrote this music, gainesville icons say,
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but they like us a lot, just seem to kind of like shopping to dealing with them. they loved piano music. so what did i think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would people drink vodka here, attempts to be what else. sure. and they also think that trasha represents the opposite of freedom, that kind of fits russia is overall, the regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i wanted to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest little of us, more than 10 high culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness, full freedom that combines with a lack of taste that produces and r k. i think that and that's vulgar and if a person has a good taste, and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives and you'll see everywhere it's of assume it was doing, even as google to see and have in taste means you have certain reasonable limits in
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your freedom, in america, and that's what makes freedom different from on a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech. and of course you can cut this out. yeah. but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. we need this. no, no, this is because of all the festivals, then was the unless they still invite the foreigners from other countries of the machine. if they're willing to come meet, they may have problems upon their return home. so someone when already days, so slow and perhaps more last questions the weather as we see now, this attempt to cancel culture is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, theodore crenza is who is greeks, is guessing his participation in concerts cancelled. mainly for the initiative of ukrainian musicians on the various pretext. kimberly, and then what do you think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect a to be up to him. no, i think was the best answer to your question moist woochie was that will be if i
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tell you a story of what happened to me in salzburg, so it seemed that was sometime before the great in conflict. but after the last thing woods and said, great, may i ask them if you had a concert scheduled with the local, which most i'll tell them, hold is true, the performance went very well, and there was a left only the world to play one of them. charlotte's symphonies, as the 2nd act, the young, but for the public was very welcoming, were a huge success. so period sending and then one person went up to the stage and stood in front of it with a slogan. i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly. the audience tried to boot him into silence. like, why short space? no. was it come to the musicians or the orchestra that the there was a mile destroy? it was the local orchestra. when you, both of us had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance use in way chief to success. it was great
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to him to put the old in sort of get to closing. and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan, shouting via, but i see, i think it was about cry. mia? and he was probably asking me why i support the saying, but i never even noticed that. so i remember going to the beaches of crimea as a kid with my mom. the of them was, you brought to that and then what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a, this is and i started guessing invitations to phone the only up to cry me a drawer and rush into the room. and that's when i realized i don't all the time before. i mean, it wasn't russian, it wasn't mine as well with yeah, but do more, less than. so my answer to you is actually i felt because what should i do? came on to that stage for the aides time. seemed for new so but then i picked up my music sheets. i'm sure. but symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience, stood up and was told on the close. and the police took that amount of weight was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and
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that's classical music, 1st and foremost issue and speaking again, which in the present person, there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane itself and it takes piano lessons and really wants to play better. and that's where i figured i know they did it and i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sure i have these phones make him any more popular in the west. but in any case, the says here is about popularity in the west. it's what mattresses are countries? unity i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope to see her again on once a part of the, [000:00:00;00]
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the welcome to worlds apart from council culture to be cancelling of culture. the western boy called on all things russian has led to paralysis, so far as to stick exchanges. further amplifying disc isn't created by a diplomatic, and i'm all set and economic sanctions of give them the music or dance have always been able to permit language and ideological barriers on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. hope to discuss that i'm now enjoyed by your impression of a russian conductor and a world renowned by list your deputy mr. boss smith. thank you for finding the time . thank you for having me. of over the past couple of years, what has been said about council culture and especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west. and if it's in the restaurant,
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this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous. but i'm sure you will agree that the culture, especially music, has the power to directly influence the human. so when you import and age subconscious part as well as the conscious one is therefore an effective tool of leverage lee. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open at our cisco point on. yep. we're good in terms of feel certain what was the compass? that's good musicians. still play phone brushing is i can most the russian plays that there's that it's if that was still been staged at them, that was so curious whether it was high on the can not be any cancellation and those who have to cancel something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because i'm cancelling russian use. it means cancel the great part of the human. so in general, the little boy, you know, doesn't matter what nationality, your whole,
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where you live at this deal, and it's easy to see why they did it for political or politicians. some politicians are for smaller people with and lots of sole, and it tastes from music. while others, new animals have no such taste of sydney focused on hating russia. uh, you know, maybe it's end up or repaired them to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. no, because of so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive the company may like limiting access to russian performers because they may be stowed with lane some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was tell from the finance on those i present the or to 1000000 was uncomfortable and those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that i have been living abroad for long to understand is the see if we still the educated and told here in russia you got the
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most to 0 to minute. i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit of russian music schools. i used to go until recently the segments of russian culture and most popular in the west was high culture like music, belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth for the usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pulled, but people with a great depth of perception. do you think the best kind of help with the chromecast disability to distinguish between defined new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave the settled feelings, it will remain relevant and you have to because when we don't know, quote unquote transition to a i the most, then we can meet again and discuss this most as long. however,
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as our intelligence is human, as a result of the official zullie, as long as we are leaving peoples to can yesterday, with this visit, that will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls varies our face on our minds to be as we may of this connection, was it come to be talking about the authors and musicians? a, is that sound that is the connection between the rational approach feel again, this is a logical one most welcome on where your brain controls your hand movements. for instance, on that to of war act isn't seniors, intonation. but that's still something that's far away from. what's a, i can do, disclose it the what you mentioned a i, which is a perfect segue to my next question can was, my person can be taught the right way, but i just think it's not what ours are, croft or propaganda is about teaching people to think in a certain way,
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do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel? is the window, if we teach everyone the right way to fields to pick them with sudden buds and of course the be the major leap towards artificial intelligence for us. no. because on the contrary to each person, phase 2 was on the sum total still phase or hers unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these cookies experienced in their childhood. got so little of what joy's or sad moments they experienced that a change and it will be naming it of this, that health with the civil. it was good understanding of what's good and what's bad . of the 1st that the quote but the mom and dad, i'm told them which to mom on there. but my mom, for example, i'm trying to figure out the most. i was interested in this movie but, but it's the most difficult thing anybody ever dealt with since i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie but so yeah,
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she kept trying different things with me. so like brain thing, sports does it by the way, are used to the defense things good as it was a promising young sensor? no. so at the moment, because then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my residence because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo your so my mom made me stop. go into the fence in process more just doing well. i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at and that was her last name is natal of a concern with the can you? but she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place, that would, she's quite old. as you can imagine, most of the me, the link below that music school is named us of the crate field are still ascii beach may 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal. which in turn begins as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and simply do you think people still
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remember that today with them, the cross pollination between culture is that because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here also for us. but it was that's a great question because if you cancel the russian culture that i'm interested, oh you must and cancel it, influence as well. and that is there still put it in that would mean suspending? that was you means holding cultural development daughter could do this, and that's a really good question to switch. the other one is the, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal street. it wasn't as low as mentality, the mentality to the tiers of trinity to being which has the advantage of the russian school was musical thinking. it was a kind of name was the that's what it is that they've been messed with with just so tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even nikki, i think a great artist is not just someone who has
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a great to click on this to put is always the new personality, not an innovator, and a maverick, a few world indeterminacy of those. and i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument which without the inspiration plays on, i e and your to read or skip football season roof of that one. and i chose to, but you were born into a family that was in physical, a tall. i'm a are you just mentioned to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling were to. so what would be your advice to our viewers? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring of inspiration to feel fully alive at 70 and rebuild, which is to 1st of which, you know, the, the quick me and there are many documents by which i mean records. so you would need to cheaper, they were talking about the micro chips,
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new just state or cities. no video records for sure. absolutely. i don't think that someone who has no connection to me is like a good good people. just go ahead and buy a re, quote, couple any big grades of a performance by a legendary musician who is it them that. so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice be wise mom's you have them for dad or the public? yeah, that's because, oh sure, i've told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which is still there still and still ask you said good for those. i don't need tell them to children. i need tell them said moms and dads, of course me and my parents were not musicians and they have not go. but my mom had a great to hear from us. like she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up and she said she didn't have enough patients for a long practice sessions purple if she is on the nest for my dad, like throwing it to the work to is that a tronics he never moved across and that he had a great voice when,
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when you're as well as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please, my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music going. it's called living at home without a piano, a pop up and my dad still got tired. this work, of course, and this must still tell me this is up to coming home from work because he learns how to play something yet. let's go. so that would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell him to the parents once the children to live interesting lives. in this movie, when i took this to, my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture. and that's where prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline. and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are buried there. if i'm not mistaken with a strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know. i never tried to, well, the wrong media reports saying, but you've been bound for monitoring. what's your personal take on it?
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and why person i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by counsel detours in the west. but what about, you know, i don't see them as canceled. i see them as postponed. the dentist, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades. issue some more on top of that, i have the goals on both my personal functions. i don't want to name particular cities or countries no more to the previously. there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movie. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who would like me to come and perform there, but they really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the way to cancel this whole council culture of the thing. this is the case thing. and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it's important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents graves or in their way to, you know,
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i'm still waiting until this whole situation that has to come to its natural resolution effects and once it's does, i will surely go the what if it continues for too long. i'll have the grades moved to moscow. i have all the means to do it. a master, we have to take a very short break now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the, the, me, which it did, even if you will, story based on that. all the use of solutions stuff that you need a shifter needs. because each time she couldn't well collected, ftp 2 photocopy slip odessa to discredit the dizzy on this before they have to do
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is to make sure that you create, excuse that our name is, which is for to expose disposable cleaning. some the doors, not 2nd thought. i wanted the conflicting the thoughts about pushing of centuries ago your for bears name this country ukraine or frontier because your steps blink, europe, and asia, the ukrainians, that become frontiersman of another story. the people will be able to send you some of those which i like most of them is always, you know, going to use to try to jump to the most goals. they would have been that much. a lot of the heavily negligence coleman 0.9. you post bouquets gift to suck you the previous step and under
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the full 4 of the data accepted 3 things. of that there was that sex. all those who shot and killed people with phones been detained. they tried to hide and move towards ukraine, where according to the preliminary data, a window was prepared for them from the ukrainian sites across the state board. quite a bit further and condense the terrorist attack in los guys, a murderous i'm of intimidation. he says, necessitated support as they were trying to flee the same thing. the that so rises to a $133.00 at the time constant hole in the russian kapco which left
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