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to the shooting, the officer that's pull the trigger with someone for questioning. the country's national security administer personally came to the hearing breaking protocol to praise the officers actions. the minister said that you guys are saying he's a 12 year old boy. stop it. what is this? this is a 12 year old, the terrorist. it was a 12 year old boy when dangers are fighter and 12 year old boy who throws fireworks and they throw molotov cocktails. this is why i am back in our fighters also in for a flash, in the ramos and anywhere it is very good that he acted the way he did. palestinians couldn't disagree more. local mosques announced from his desk for loudspeakers, calling him a martyr. people were furious, tearing that funeral turned into a mass protest. israel returned from his body 6 days later, almost in secret, requiring the burial was carried out at night. at the nearest cemetery, denied access to the one you drew settings,
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all the city where all around. these relatives are buried. with a maximum of 50 people allowed to attend. according to the palestinian health ministry in the 5 months of escalation triggered by the war in gaza is really forces killed more than 400 palestinians from east jerusalem and the west bank. and is really human rights group reports, a quarter of them were miners, including more than a half killed without being classified as an immediate threat. now, after the family receive, the rama is body hand buried. they loved one. they prepare for a legal battle with these really authorities. they say fighting for justice is the least they can do for their boy who can not be brought back from the dead. re, from ocean r t reporting from palestine. this is our rundown of the news for this house to take care of up the toughest voice. sushi asked me, i'll see, is the
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hello and welcome to cross my boyfriends. i am peter live out here. we discussed some real news. moscow, they separate the worst terrorist attack in 20 years. many are blaming ukraine and it's western patrons also in american sponsored un security council resolution and gaza failed to pass. this marks the other failure of american policy. but it is a bidding genocide to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, alexander, a tom in st. petersburg. he is a senior lecture at st. petersburg state institute of technology and kia in moscow . we have to meet 3, bob and she's an analyst at school, make international regional across type roles, and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it.
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all right, let's start out with the theme of the here in moscow. it's been 2 days now since it's a really good god terrace to talk on moscow. what are your thoughts? what do you, you've been thinking over the last 2 days because of course there's a lot of things we're pointing obviously. a many people here, as you well know, are blaming somehow be ukrainians for what happened here. there's a lot of unanswered questions, a 133 people in counting are dead more than a 150 injured a lot of questions. your thoughts, my friend? well right now, as we have talked in the death toll race to 154 people at the end, it will be unfortunately, most likely the number will be wouldn't be a prior. ah, so it's a huge misfortune, really terrible alteri stats. and i think we're going to excuse some people who will be doing motional and the suggestion simple solutions that uh will remember how you doing that. it stays up to 911 people were saying all kinds of things. and
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then you both was easy to blame them, you know, later all the years off, the ones that have what we've seen is these web, the stage right now. but, oh, okay, let's be on this. let's, let's just stick to the facts of the terrorists. we're trying to feed to create the united states and the west in general said there from some ices group. i was just for us on the few people coming up for that they were acting on their role. uh well, here are the facts that just don't jive with their, you know, 1st they were not suicide keywords. naturally they, yes, frankly, they flaps. right? that they've done to the white guy since then also, why did they need to create, why didn't base lead to some? mostly i'm regional, russia or central asia. what do they offices?
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why do they they were trying to create and they were arrested not far from the opinion, bullying the band squeegee orders. but then also uh, you can ask, uh wow, know why are you suspecting grain why it was suspecting to night states? well, the ukrainian president savanski was the only one who did not express. uh, any kind of control. it's just for restaurants. you just blame this. usually one press the boat, jim jean saw the president. what do you need? his short speech quarters. him all sorts of names that speech was not human, but he to go. it sounded like a, you know, equity the, to be fair line. i'm no, no fan of the ukrainian president. i mean, what, what would, what else would you expect from him? you know, we're in emotional react to like, but slit. let me, let me go to alexander alexander, steam is been doing a very good job here of kind of giving the chronology here out, where do you want to pick it up and where do you want to add? well,
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i would say that blaming ice. this is not necessarily better than blaming ukraine because we, you know, it's the open secret that ice as has connections to the c i. a license has connections to massage. so if we're saying that it was isis where we kind of are pointing fingers in the same direction anyway, and we can't forget how in 2017 when isis struck is really positions. they apologized to is real. what kind of an as long as the terror organization is this, that apologizes to israel, it's very odd and there's been reports that applies to this, asians were arrested and they turned out to be is railey. so this is, this is not some kind of a home grown terrorist organization. so to say that it's isis is just a very convenient way to don't run into these bills out, no doubt that and they were terrorist, i mean, they've been captured all 4 of,
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of them. and now in total, there's 11 people been detained. but um, alexander, i mean from the initial interviews and maybe they're under duress we, we have to find out more. but i mean, there was a financial load of obviously, you know, i mean they're saying how much money they were paid to do this. um, um we have to buy that, how they got into the country. one of them said he, we basically had been in turkey. so, i mean, there's a lot of very strange things here and alexander, i'll throw in here. um, the initial american response is that ukraine didn't do it. that's rather strange and mocking mind. okay. coming out with a negative instead of something. affirmative, but alexander, continue. well, what i found interesting with the interrogations of, of these did and individuals is that they honestly just seemed very unintelligent. whether they were speaking russian or a native language, they just seem them to me. and this really reminds me of something that we in
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america are very used to at this point, which this comes straight out of the f b i playbook. so what the f b i likes to do is they somehow through some chat rooms through the internet connect with some unintelligent person and started feeding them. id is about, oh, maybe you should go commit some kind of violence and they link them up with somebody who gives them some weapons or trains them and how to make some kind of bomb. and then the fbi, i sweeps and it says how we got these terrorists. so to then see the way these guys are acting, it's, you know, it really reminds me of the things that the us government does to its own population. and here we have the same sort of play block being used with these terrorists. so it seems to be, you know, the same guys perhaps coming up with the same ideas whether they're his name or i am more tech americans or russians. medina is going to have some of the footage
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i've seen it and i'm sure it's not exhaustive here. but one thing i have to say that really surprised me even kind of shocked me that these guys just waltz dried into the forum. i mean with no resistance whatsoever. that's extraordinary demon. well, of course there are programs with security p a b scroll with cd call. but uh, you know, it's far from law school center. yes, it has been a very trained the place for rich people for, for many years. so nothing happened that just because it is so far from the more dangerous course. you know, it's like in any country, you know, you don't expect terrible things to happen somewhere where people are so used to kevin's file, you know, you just don't collect it. so i understand why that security equal deal actually, especially of to the next. so where, you know,
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which in one of the with ages 7 percent of the vote, the nation has shown its unity. so people were, i think just kind of relapse. but for the last name, a bunch of brought that up even indeed, is that part of the timing of all this? because of course we, we all are in a way, i don't want to waste time on western coverage. i brushes presidential election, that'd be a waste of our time here. but it seems that this is kind of an, um, uh, trying to spoil the moment of unity that the russians out after the election. i mean, they do think that's part of the timing. there. it did, it can vehicle incident steam or it could be, i mean it could be, uh, well, i mean, i'm not blind to say some of them that i haven't seen myself. you know, i left where i use the conspiracy theories just left me that we have a few things about the united states as a record to greece on this. that i have seen myself, you know, from my going to this experience, you know, i was just entrust later with several less than
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a newspaper. and then it was in teams during the warning changed. they were all extremely, i'm not able to purchase, you know, brought east limits because the, the new vandal, the 90, is, you know, off the 1st phase of the war. the so called church and resistance. what was done and aided by the slips as a western media was completely in bed with you know this, it was not like uh, uh, you know, even 90 to 10 percent. it was 99 percent full misconduct. and besides, maybe one percent seems that the for some peaceful rations, you know, local people. but the, that was very, very clear terms that you, that's more though but the west despite differences in idaho, we just supported the slips. the same story in syria. i mean, us as go, whatever you say about that was your and the said, what and whom do the united states as your be union, by the way,
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who do they support you there? these ones, if you tell me that it's just only just some co sprint up uh, in the end of uh, 2016. you know, when the around the a bomb adjust the was to probably to both of the syrian positions. i can be region organizations like that because it all we have to do is read your like you really clinton's emails and we have a very clear picture of the lease, actually the, uh, the. so there are so many faces. uh, when you don't have to look at the documents, you just have to look at the west. the media will side. was it all in all of these confrontations? it was on the side. oh these let me several sides. a circle with their own, the same story lead the well away. but we have another kind of a alexander, we have a bit of a smoking gun and it was something that i able to actually had predicted a not obviously this horrific event. but i mean is victoria newland goes out the
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door. i'm paraphrasing here, she has some nasty surprises for the russians. i mean, or, you know, take it the, i would face value, i guess alex and oh sure. it's like, uh when buy it and let slip that one way or another. we'll stop the nord stream pipeline. so yeah, these folks in the us government are and to have said this before, i don't think they're the brightest people and they're very, very arrogant. they're very arrogant, so they feel that they have total power and can do anything they want. and so they sometimes just say what they're going to do, even though they really shouldn't, as they are beings more strategic about it. so yeah, i agree with you there's, there's really not a lot of surprise here. and then of course we had the us apparently warning the russian government about terrorist threats. well, what are these threats? where did this information come from? how do you have details, or what details do you have? the russian side says they were given no specifics. but i don't know,
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it's just odd behavior, odd in the way that the united states says who did it or who didn't do it. so it's, it's just odd rhetoric when it is just the rhetoric we get from these leaders. and it also kind of matches a pattern. i mean, if we can focus our attention on ukraine as all of us know, what are our viewers now? the war is going very badly for the ukrainian side. nato is panicking and we see more and more assaults on civilians inside of russia by i'm probably, i'm targeting and by a western and troops and technicians and firing into rush. i mean, this is getting to a point of desperation, so by kind to dump tails into this kind of prologic. if you can't wait on the battlefield, then you will go a symmetrical as victoria new and suggested while the line her during her last trip us to take care of before we heard that she will be leaving her position for
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a gentleman. i'm going to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discuss to them some real is say, with our teeth, the, the russian states never is as tight as one of the most sense community best. in most all sense and up in the system must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin move. yep. mission the state on the rush to day and split the r t. suppose next. even our video agency,
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roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say stephen twist, which is the same wrong? just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement equals the trails. when so many find themselves will the parts we choose to look for common ground the the welcome back to cross side boulevard in
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peter lavelle here were discussing some real news or a gentleman. i would like to change gears or i want to go back to alexander another fiasco with the diplomatic nature. at the end of last week we have the name of the united states proposed a, a resolution to the security council. remarkably 6 months after the whole world has been calling for a ceasefire, the united states called the a c spire except for wasn't the ceasefire. and then end up being a complete b s. go. so i will uh to that, well, this was going on the secretary of state anthony blake and was on his 6th tour of the middle east. what he's doing, nobody really particularly knows because there's no results. and if i'm not mistaken, he was leaving going back to the united states and he was informed by the media that 2000 acres of westbank land territory under occupation by the israeli government. was seized from palestinians. and he's being told this guy,
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i think it'd be, he wasn't even aware of it. at least his body language tells us that. i mean, it's it, 0 one more thing i had before. i'll throw back to you alexander, of the secretary of the speaker of the house. johnson is inviting nothing. you have to speak to congress. i mean all of this together. so what was this resolution? the whole about, except for trying to pull roll over everyone's side. alexander or yeah, the influence of the is really government and you knighted states government is massive and we see that constantly. so congress which can't agree on anything. they'll then have a vote on should we support pass the resolution on supporting israel and that always passes with 99 percent of the votes. a couple of people maybe will just not vote. so what kind of a divided political system? what left?
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right. you know, system is this when it's 100 percent support of a foreign state. and when you look at the composition, the united states government, many of these people are jewish and then go out on tv and talk about how they are very loyal to israel. they go in front of a pack and declare that their purpose is to support is real. well, what about the people of the united states? so we have government officials, openly declaring their allegiance to the state of israel and not to the interest of the united states, people to the american people. so many of them are working for the interest of israel. and that's when you get these kinds of deranged debacles, like jared cushion years plan for peace in the middle east, which arguably has led to this situation. well, get out, you know, i saw his, um, uh, part of his interview that he was at the kennedy school of government. i mean
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a very official venue. okay. team a and jared cushion who is talking about real estate on the golf coast. i mean, it doesn't get more morbid than that. that's more rugs. the ma, well unfortunately, but the intent is noticing it for a very simple reason. you know, decent your may be maybe even less speech to that me the least a before watching the deal or south bolts. did you say sheep wash, but the problem was that the juices your work was more or less free in t is well mills. and this is, you know, she called cut the deals. you know, blame can e as is tied by these uh, new bro globalist ultra liberal ideology as a matter of gifts, which i suggest that by the us be get, they a very predictable. i mean, like, you know, the last few weeks the narrative was like, yes, we support israel,
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but some problem you have any offers back at, you know, a bite and he's losing his patients with neck on, you know, then you have which spoke to cool, you know, what if it hadn't been for yep, at yahoo! it wouldn't have been really cheap. so i think i'm just, i've been following this surface as well. let me throw it back to alexander. i mean, yeah, the, all of this criticism, but you know, this the way, particularly the united states and again, the europeans, more and more so they personalized, it'd be with it. once this person goes, everything will be fine. well, no, this, that's not fine. we had a chuck shuler of very publicly criticizing benjamin netanyahu, but he didn't. what is the result? there's no result. the same thing continues here. this is a, this is a, um, because theater that's being played out here. and then public center. you have the bibles peer idea, which of course came from the israelis to get paid in to gaza. know the id is we
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get dozens vote through this peer to do, we have them dispelled. i mean, most people in american media won't even address the most simple fundamental issues of this. okay. chaotic situation, alexander? yeah, well, this is the problem of democracy in the west. so the media pretends that it matters who is the president, and they pretend that, oh, if we change the wallpaper, changed the president in an election, which may or may not be rigs, then everything will be different. but every time we have an election, new president's same policies. and i think they're also pretty relaxed on what the rhetoric can be in some cases. so it's ok to criticize and that's in yahoo because there will be no action is always just words. they feel pressure from the international community. they may be even feel pressure from some of the protests
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that have been happening in the united states on campuses and, and some cities against to the slaughter and gaza. so there is some pushback. there is some pressure so that they relieve the pressure with some of this rhetoric, but everyone knows that there will not be any action in the system is designed to personally, generally, i guess it's so blatantly obvious that you had the highest selected jewish official american history chuck schumer, in the senate, and he has is what many would say kind of blistering, the critique of benjamin netanyahu. and then within 2 or 3 of the new cycles, he says, oh yes, we should welcome to speak to congress. i mean, what i mean, what are we supposed to train coming, who's, who's, who's calling the shelter d my side, you'd see you laughing, go ahead. so, i mean, it's not what was the limit to 3 years ago that story about good gauntlet and bad personally that though, you know, during the live the, uh, since it was absolutely impossible to hide, that 13 policeman was deal, you know,
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during these peaceful, coldest you know that's actually it wasn't not cool. you remember the narrative was like, oh, these old nice people on that swept but there is a good hold right? second step, the bat, you know, but the mind go adult, pay attention to that same story. it was with that, there is the, cham goldman on the bus called the funeral must have was the president. and he's, by me, is the, what's time you will by side who several times the me that she knows that respects, you know, they didn't thousands of course to just. and the matter to from that was 2 brass was it's a nice go. it's independent change. not just, you know, these die besides somehow back jerry, they know how to put you. they always kind of betrayed them. is a selves and it's in with a kalashnikov or some things actually, i don't know or all been cooled with that with that with a bazooka that that was the same. unfortunately, it came from a russian person from all in the world. but anyway, so i'm kind of tied to these narrative like israel is good. yes. and you up was bad
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. i mean, i remember i saw what you have to summit meetings with you. so if we talk about changing the wallpaper, some felt yet on the apple space at the tool, what was the rate of 4 digits for more than more than 2720 years? and they just say he's a robot. apple. why wouldn't patient patients but you've never been losing the patients for over 60 years young. this is a bit too long, you know, to, to what was your nerve about somebody? well, i mean, his longevity, alexander it is because of design is, i mean it, it, it has, it's, it has only one direction. you know, what's happening in gaza is it's destroying all of our humanity, even by being witnesses to it. we are losing our humanity. but there is the, the powers that be, are so powerless because they've been captured by this ideology for design is
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what's happening. and gaza is called an opportunity. it is a so the final solution. and we and they know that they can get the west to be a complicity. or, i mean, when i look at the anthony blake and i came up with a, i called him the undertaker because he is the undertaker of what any kind of western values the west believes that you can give to the world. it is being, this is a, and this is a funeral for western values, even though we, we, we, by, we know not them is, you know, p r and, you know, talking points. but i mean, all 4 values are being destroyed right now. well, the zionist in the united states and the zionist and his real, they all perfectly understand the game they're playing. so they may pretend to disagree on certain issues, but they all agree on the one important thing of supporting israel, no matter what it does, no matter what horrors it carries out against the palestinians. and you see this
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playing out in the american media and very interesting ways, for example, been shapiro who is a rabbit, into support israel and says really on is things about how many, how they should kill people to use in a feud with candace owens, because she's criticizing this design is i'm a, she's criticizing this model isic policy of supporting israel and never admitting to the fact that this is wrong. so one problem we have this really big problem in the united states is that organizations like a pack and the anti defamation we, they go around bullying people, organizations just trying to instill a sense of terror in organizations and people. so they will not speak out, will not question anything is real does, will not question design us in the american government at risk of having their
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livelihoods destroyed at risk of being the platform. there's so many people who have lost access to banking, who have had all of their social media turned off. who um, many people are living outside of the united states because it's impossible for them to make a living and possible for them to live in the u. s, or they'll just be sued into oblivion and that's another extra legal way of handling things. so the government may not officially take away your freedom of speech, but we'll just sue you into a bolivian so you are financially unable to do anything. well, use the private companies that the government orders to silence you, but it's not the government. so for some reason to the 1st amendment has now been re defined, it doesn't apply to every thing. it only applies to the government. so the government will use tools like facebook, twitter, and so on to silence people that way. well, one of the other casualties is that conservatives spoke out for freedom of speech,
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up until october 7 or a gentleman that's all the time we have. what i think my guess in saint petersburg and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our d. c. next time. remember prospect brooks? the, [000:00:00;00] the,
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