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human rights and american own laws, but it is what it is do with all the time. you do it openly and proudly. the washington post has stood the other day that in fact the, by the administration has new own along with, as what you just are doing with the weapons that they are receiving from, from washington. and didn't do anything about it. it was completely on say the same thing and how is happening in europe and by extension also happening in canada as well. were on the one hand, they would say we are no longer like the thought he has have said that we're no longer sending what this to as well. and yet at the same time, few months later, the defense minister of italy comes out publicly as, as well. actually, we have been sending weapons to is will, because we are honoring the previously assigned agreements regarding the transfer of weapons. and as the canadians did the exact same thing, so even when they supposedly take a more position the or was find a way to back track of that more up position. and they continue to supply the is
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what any war machine with all the weapons they need to carry on with this unit side in gaza. so this is not at all surprising. to be honest. this has been going on for a long time, millions of dollars worth of, of what been transferred going on between europe and, and uh, and as well. and back is what it is. so what security technology has been making its way to your for g is and most of it by the way, it's being used against undocumented refugees, immigrants in giving it to randy and see and so forth. so as well is a very integral part of your social security system. this is not in the least surprising. all right, not human rights groups of cold, of the you to suspend its association agreement with these are all due to ease rove a salt on gas or do you think that you will listen and they have to listen. they have to listen because of what is happening around the world right now. first of
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all, you have a very im howard little bit of self lead by south africa. you would, you were just quoting the, for a minute sort of south africa speaking, but that you feel to spy, you have an empowered, international community that is kind of moving away from, from the west. as the mora with dorothy that has or was supposed to be still on behalf of international law and come on the lights and all the rest of and, and that's the number one. number 2. you are also seeing that the, the, the, of the popular see regarding the application of international law. also because of the situation in the ukraine with russia also in other parts of the world. he won korea and all the rest when it comes to these countries that are very quick to impose sanctions, to punish, to avoid cut, to do all of these things and not, not in terms of like one or 2 sensors. but we have too many thousands of sanctions imposed on the likes of russia and you want and all those when it comes to is,
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will not, is single not is single decision has been made to affectively. she's that they now mix of europe being west and supports so was as well. so the international community is waking up to this that i think the russian side needs to be to the double beatle that happened to this pathetic american resolution at the united nations security council. a few days ago really indicates that there's a process of 8 of nations just simply being fed up and the fact that many countries around the world sup, due to russia and china on these, on the so they use a visa as well. so indicate that we are really for a paradigm shift and this is why i think the americas today chose to abstain from the from between the you. under the elusive regarding ceasefire. i think there's a massive change of dynamics, and this is why there's a great 14, it eats the blood pressure phone that you will be in your hands to start comes to look into their books, to their contracts,
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to all of their that data in the last few years and to see what can we do to stop not just this hypocrisy, but practically in this kind of harmful and deadly relationship that, that governs that relationship between israel and the, your bmw unit on the, on the, on the one hand, and israel and the western world on the other. all right, the weapons are big in port item for each while at the moment. do you think the situation in gas and, and for that might have the westbank would ever get to a point where 10 of these allies take washington, for example, would have a 2nd guess shipping over plating loads of weapons. this is a really good question because it is, it is have convinced themselves least for the last decade. there are indeed a bubble of fighting wars long term more independently in fact or multiple phones. they have been saying without resorting to the us of the west and all i and,
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and the reached the point of the, the are number one i a number 9 or 10 of the woods leading exporters of what? so if you have been really quite comfortable where they were, were in their position and then the power as, as the ability to fight them to avoid the goals. a war has proven that to be please leave the polls. there are no basis for it. in fact, if it were not, i think more accurate and precise numbers are going to do ministry this in coming weeks on months. but if it were not for the over 100 shipments are put into the washington post. 100 major shipments of american weapons to israel, over the course of, of, of this war up to about 2 or 3 weeks ago. if it were not for these weapons, is a, would it practically run out of weapons if it were not for americans in durham? and by the way, germany is that i think is like the 2nd largest exports of what the as to is will
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or the 28 percent of all of israel's weapons, which come from germany or inputs come from germany. if it were not for these 2 countries, it would have run out to munition a long time ago. they would have run out of spare parts long time ago on the top essentially, they've not been able to operate a long time ago. the dynamics of the war. in fact, the conflict therefore is a standing, independent use would have been fundamentally altered long time. so now the question is, we just learned that it's not just is real. that is maintaining this war and the kind of simians. but the united states, germany on other european countries. so the pressure has to be equally put on these countries to is deprived as well of this kind of murder weapon that had been used to kill and one over will over 100600000. while we have to leave you here now, delta ramsey, but rude by less than that by the scene, an american journalist and the editor of the palestine chronicles,
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thank you so much for your insight. and to africa now where the foremost senegalese prime minister has conceded defeat to his opponent by serial deal. ma, you're fired and he offered congratulations and wished him and all the people of senegal success for more on the developments here is ology curse. but in the vehicle gay, a 44 year old debussy to do my father is elected president of cynical just over a week since he was released from prison. he is a senior member of the post if party live by will some on some of the popular fee, the who many thought would succeed. present, mecca, so now the incumbent prison, mecca, so imprisoned 5 on charges will sprayed in full use and contempt of quote, to disqualify him from running. but the people of cynical held firm in the support to make you saw even try to postpone the lex is insignificant, leads people to the,
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to the steve and made sure that to be a voices were heard. and the voices were sounded over after past. today, the 44 year old text to speak to is the president of single month's son. so who's supporting said, that's a vote for his candidate. is 2 votes for this month's uncle. that's the news syndicate, leads president who ought to be following some cause complaint. sancho is not only a critical phrase policy, but it supports us off the unification of after kind of posts of the sites and things neil colonialism fi up here. the clearly ahead of the governing coalition is for my prime minister amman to boston. a nice voltage at a choice of 9 to contend is to replace mac yourself for a stepping down off to a 2nd to mod, bye and risk. in cynical microsoft is of course media offers on the 6th of april. right, that's the update. now are to the companies where you can get the details of all the latest. thanks for watching. i'll see you again, the
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hello and welcome to cross the full force here. we discussed some real in the the when you're doing your brushing them. uh, for reasons unknown to me. we did not have a news crew on the ground when the bombing of yugoslavia began. more precisely, the correspondent who was there in his film crew left and the last flight from belgrade after which all the airports in yugoslavia were closed. when all of the airports closed management passed me was somehow finding another way to get there.
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i flew to budapest with the help of the russian embassy a day later, the field crew and i found ourselves in a small town on the border of hungry and yugoslavia. we managed to cross the border checkpoint early in the morning, around 5, a lose so interesting. the border checkpoint was completely empty except for the guards. when i handed over my passport to the yugoslav border guard, i heard someone come up behind me. i turned around and saw your use of truth, a russian rock musicians and yearly cost free on from the band quino, as well as 2 or 3 other people who are catching up to us. it turns out that they were also going to belgrade, and were planning to participate in a rock concert called for peace or something like that. we cross the border and accepted the offer to travel together. we drove to the nearest town by bus, but after that, we decided not to go on because we were warned that it was very dangerous. very intense bombardments had already begun. at that point. i had to find a small hugo car as i remember, it looked just like
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a little box. we all crammed ourselves into it. this one courageous yugoslav man drove us, but at some point we also stopped and said that we should not go any further because they were bombing all the time. we took a break somewhere nearby and some local village. at night we moved to the area of nova side city crossing the bridge of the new river early in the morning. of 5 or 6 am, we made it into belgrade. on the way, our driver who is listening to the radio said that we were lucky to have managed to cross the bridge, which is far as i remember was named after marshal burrows tito. this bridge had been ball on that very morning on april 1st. all the bridges in belgrade were bombed. it was, i think, the 8 days since the bombing started, and all the bridge over the nude were destroyed. these were my 1st impressions. and then my work as a reporter began. i worked for the news program, b, g t, r k, and all russian radio and tv company. i stayed there for 3 weeks before another
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news crew replaced us. but after a while, our return to yugoslavia, again, he was more than a 1000 nato airplanes participated in the bombing of bell great. we heard the explosions and went out on the ground to documented. we came to this one place and saw destroyed houses, ruined buildings. they made sure to bomb all the infrastructure 1st. over the 70 plus days, these $1008.00 aware plains bombed almost all of yugoslavia. they destroyed the entire countries infrastructure. bridge is power plants, military facilities, all civilian infrastructure. we heard all of it after a while, we would go over with the fires, were there were firefighters, people running around absolutely distraught and unsettled across as is good part of the serbs react, we really have to give the service credit here. this wasn't new to them. before that, there was the war in bosnia and herzegovina. many of them were a part of it, or had family there. that is, the war had already been cemented in the serbian cultural code. i can't say there
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was any confusion, but yes, there was bewilderment and disappointment. disappointment might not be the right word here. they thought yes, with god's help, we will win or we will survive. that's what the serv said to us. and by the way, the attitude towards russians was good, but not the service realized that they were being bon, that their country, their sovereign state, had been attacked by such a fierce coalition, the north atlantic alliance. they understood that they were being squeezed, but they were putting the pressure on them and see before that there was a long period a long time when they were just cots and threats like we will start bonding. you and people apparently just got used to everything. and then when it happens when it actually starts, what are you going to do? we either leave the country or you stay and hold on one another and i ended up in pristina in kosovo, in january of 1998. that is 2 months before active hostilities began, i was there because my friends and colleagues from reading over student bell grade told me that western countries, newspapers, magazines,
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were all call in pristina and kosovo. the last hot spot in europe. they said something could happen. their western journalist wrote that there was some kind of genocide of ethnic albanians. there was generally a terrible situation there, and that's how i imagined it. but when i got there, that's not what i found. i arrived in sony, christina, a beautiful town with valleys and hills and albanian houses around it. albanian boys hung portraits of some municipal politicians on st. table's, probably serbian politicians. here's a very important detail that i remember. this place was painted as the diabolical scene of the extermination of the albany and population. had serbian traffic cops on the streets of cnn standing there without any service weapons. not only did they not have machine guns, they didn't even have pistols or per tons. they were wearing white arm bands, the serbian police officers regulating all the traffic in the super hot spot. as western journalists put it,
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we're wearing white arm bands. i think this says that the law enforcement forces of serbia, yugoslavia did not feel any danger. and if there was no danger, what was there to talk about? here's another example with abraham rules, a right or a member of the western pen club. she was the ethnic albanian and coast of our spiritual leader. his office was located in the center of for stina press conferences, were constantly being held there. it was widely known that he was the head of the civilian unit of the k, a, the kosovo liberation army. how can we talk about some kind of genocide if the leader of the kosovar, albanians is sitting in the center of christina, with serbian policeman nearby wearing white arm bands without any service weapons? not feeling any danger and simply regulating traffic. when l. b and boys are plastering portraits of some municipal politicians and officials over their bedside tables. was an absolutely peaceful situation. was to put all that changed abruptly
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. i flew there to yugoslavia 2 months later in march of 1998. and the situation had changed dramatically. what happened there was the following. there was a village where a famous yugoslav mafioso lived. everyone knew about them a big gun barren. they said that there was a lot of drug sales coming from albania and macedonia. he and his relatives lived in the village along with hundreds of other people in security. albanians generally have large families. he lived in a place where there were impregnable walls, a real fortified area. and then at some point in march of 1998 the serbian police, at that time the only police in kosovo were serbian. there were no special forces, no troops. there was nothing. the serbian police said to something that happened after which they were told that within 24 hours he must surrender to the authorities. hanover's weapons, he had automatic weapons or the police would go and confiscate them. and so there was a sweep he would not give up. the authorities brought in more shots were fired,
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and then a special task for storm to compound. and these people were arrested, there was a shoot out and several people were killed. after that, all of a sudden, 12 camera crews, from the american associated press agency and 8 reuters cameras appeared out of nowhere. and christina, i talked to one of the reuters correspondence back, then god rest his soul. his name was terrace prostitute who was killed in a rack, a very famous photographer. he said to me then the dean, this is not a war between the cost of ours and the serbs. this is our fight. it's a media of war between the americans and the anglo saxons. that is between reuters and ape. well then the task was to prove who was more successful, a spreading these images of ethnic cleansing. but there was no ethnic cleansing, so everyone was exhausting themselves and doing as much as they could for. for example, a reuters correspondence shared a video with me. we watched it and i saw it myself of some kind of countryside with a large crowd of l. damian's mostly women,
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an old man holding children in their arms, dragging them along and running and running and running somewhere. i asked while i was watching the footage, why don't they have any belongings or anything at all? the rotors correspondent laughed and said, do you know they were actually running to watch some tv show. the lights had gone out and they ran over to a nearby village to watch the latest episode of some albanian tv series. and of course the story they broadcasted was, the survey and special forces have carried out a sweep. albanians are fleeing and horror from this village, somewhere towards greater albania. that's one of the examples. i'm sure i remember very clearly when natal bond, the chinese embassy. i cannot speak to how deliberate that attack was, but i do not think they deliberately struck the tv center in belgrade. i friends working there with whom i collaborated during satellite broadcasts. the entire crew died at the bell. great tv center. 15 or 16 people, as well as our colleagues at the chinese embassy to after 25 years,
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i can say that western journalist clearly took it at face value that there serves these terrible serves. and that that place is evil. and there are also these poor, innocent albanians, but you see our colleagues lived at the christina hotel, a huge serbian hotel that was located downtown, and also at the park hotel which was smaller. the reuters news crew lived there. he used to be a serbian hotel, they dined at serbian restaurants, got their hair cut by serves drink, wine, and serbian coffee's. they saw that there were not even any troops there. they understood the coast of all of my talk here in tokyo, which by the way translates as church land is the home of serbian coast of ours. in general that church land has 300 orthodox monasteries on it. 300 orthodox monasteries, didn't they realize that they understood all of this and handled it rather cynically 0 in, in, on their agenda. i was there when reuters was editing their material. i saw how
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people can indicated that there was a producer there. gwen is when you would go to the pristine, the hotel, you would see him there was 6 or 7 phones in front of him. he was always writing something down, responding to someone, and then they would go out and get the pictures or video. this of course was done for money so that the cost of ours could film some sort of exclusive, some hors d'oeuvres, austin, nicole, the agenda was handled very cynically. this probably sounds terrible in light of what happened, but this was an information more between 2 agencies. the british reuters in the american ape to see who could get more exclusives and more shocking material that painted the serbs as demons who will demonize them better. who will be more successful at showing that obedience are wonderful guys in general, because the serbs are demonic and they tried to destroy them altogether. they kept saying, genocide, ethnic cleansing. but as soon as we arrived, we saw a press conference for the spiritual leader of the obedience with his own pen club in the center of christina,
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where this assembly of journalists were always gathered, listening to him speak. by the way, i was surprised by the patience of the yugoslav authorities and slow, but i'm the last of which at the time who allowed all of this. honestly, it's hard for me to imagine that when the tv center in belgrade was here, i was in moscow. i returned in early may in the very night when the chinese embassy was bombed. what can i say? i knew 2 or 3 of the people who were killed there. they had previously helped us by sending news material. what did they have to do with anything? but nato's logic is understandable. it's necessary to destroy everything. all the words that do not correlate with the western agenda. they had to destroy everything, not just the bridges, but also the metaphysical spiritual principles. it was necessary to destroy it, to make it easier to take on the serbs popular circuitry. lab rav constantly talks about this, who came up with these rules that we need to follow. who is the author of these rules? a few days before the bombing began, there was
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a meeting and paris negotiations were held with the participation of yugoslavia. and they offered to withdraw all law enforcement from kosovo. the police who stood in white arm bands. then they were ordered to allow noodle forces to move freely throughout eucharist live yet. what do you think? sure, there is the sovereign state in a foreign army. what should the reaction beating the bombing began without the approval of the un security council. it was a legal, it was in line with the rules that someone in the anglo saxon world came up with. i don't really want to think about it against the background of what happened. there was an official figure quoted by the west of some 200000 serves who fled the region where they have 300 ancient monasteries. as far as i know, 300000 refugees left, they were forced to leave this place where as they say, their ancestors also lived and came from. it turned out that there was this whole region of kosovo and the tow here, which everyone understood to be orthodox are being land. and for some reason they
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took it and pushed them aside for albania, albania is in toronto. officially. consider this to be their enclave. that this is their territory, it's uncomfortable to remember. and how about libya? do you remember iraq much? they also try to forget the afghans the west clearly handled. it's passed through the media. it's task of demonizing. the service across the front line several times will be in there. i had a film crew, we repeatedly crossover to the i'll be in the inside. talked with these guys in green bandanas. communication was so, so because one day we were taken to the mountains and we were detained. how do we get detained? we were filming something in standing up on the mountain side. then these guys jumped out at us with weapons and machine guns. they put us in the car and told us to follow them. one of their cars was in front of me. the 2nd one was behind me. unfortunately, we were not moving in the direction from which we came from. that is the only road which led towards pristina, but they took us up to the mountains. there were these dogs up there. all of them
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armed. they stood in front of my car and pointed at me with their automatic rifles pushing me to park at the very edge of the cliffs. what was i supposed to do? i parked on the very edge of the best and the correspondence of radio, russia, your usher pool of asked me vatican. what do you think? i said, what can i think were finished? they stood in front of us. it was clear that they were going to shoot and the car would fall down the cliffs and we would just have gone missing. we heard a lot of similar stories had happened and many wars. but then at some point a car drove up. a kid jumped out of an old mercedes, some very young kid and began to explain something to them and i'll be in in. and then they changed their mind. their headquarters had changed its mind before that we had been interrogated their headquarters for 2 hours. they looked at their passports in their documents and accused us of being spies and so on. we drove back the them gave us back or camera and told us, we don't want to see you anymore. one word and you'll be finished with. that was just one of our encounters later when i would go over to the other side. i took
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different roads. i invited the dean of the faculty of russian language and literature and asked me to call being in professor shop on how to from the university of christina, shaun holt. he was one of the leading academics and teachers at the university of christine at the time. and he was an ethnic albany and he worked with us as a translator and a guide. we went to a lot of places with him. we went to his house, we went to albany and restaurants. he told us all about albany. and unfortunately, on one of the trips after left, the next news crew were detained together was shot on hold to my colleagues were released after interrogations, but he was executed. a criminal case was opened by interpol, but he was never found to be sure i visited his family later on and brought them some financial help from us. but in general, they still don't know what happened to him. they knew that he had been executed by the cost of the liberation army. i'm talking about this because when they asked me about the obedience that were allegedly killed there,
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i can only speak about now benny, and who is killed by albany and thugs, just for working with russian journalists and speaking russian. he was executed at the beginning of june on the 11th or 12th of june of 1999. everyone already knew that the k 4 forces were coming. that is the forces for kosovo. these were international forces controlled by nato. we were told about it the night before at our hotel by the waiters and cleaners who works there. somebody at reception also warned us they showed us this. meaning that we were finished. we left the hotel immediately to stay at a different place, but i returned to the hotel in the morning. i told myself i had work to do. it was crazy and reminds me of what we recently saw on the road sides here in armenia. the roads were full of cars, tractors, and all kinds of old vehicles. people were trying to get to serbia to leave kosovo . there you could seek refuge of one of which school gymnasiums. there were hundreds of people with children who were there trying to spend the night because
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they left their villages. they settled down there to spend the night and to try to figure out where to go and how to move forward. there was an absolute horror, of course this actually looked like ethnic cleansing, only it was ethnic cleansing by the international k for forces under natal control against the serbian population to that. but when i think about that time, i remember shopping hotel drinking at and i'll be in the in restaurant dancing there with our camera man and with the local women and his friend who was the boss of the cafe. i remembered the people, their wonderful opinions, wonderful people, as we say, they got caught in the cross hairs of the west agenda. it said they needed to fight to mess everything up on this little bluer. they'll come across the ocean and destroy everything here. i think about that and it seems it makes me very sad for me the the
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the 1st time in history. meantime country's culture has been cancelled. that remote in west council culture need to ask the associated model as to the function just me sitting on a particular phrase. now particularly refers to counseling russian culture. and yet the worst it could be at the fuel to that i get 20 miles folks to porterville. renewal that is chill out of it. so of that the most of us of rich, the, one of them, the, the moines blood rushes created the pos 1500 years. there's no questions,
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partially condemned, reviled and reject it to sit alone and use that except with somebody at the middle of the panel. there's a lot, i don't know because i don't know. she does have access to the little some of the list. joining total comes them, nation grows daily and now include those to instigate to ca, skate and assess the kind of age that i need to. yeah, of course to left, but yeah, she goes to the things that will be done with you dear. i'm in the you the the,
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