and maybe exaggerating a little bit, but really that, that goes, is the matter is that then i'd say it is the predictor of israel no matter what it does. and the u. n. a, it says the. ready to as well. all right, well the rest of the president has dressed dress to the rest of the security council. let's listen to what he had to say. we wish you this machine, you see me as always said, i'm not sure who's ation that. but that top priority is relations with our neighbors. but to get to him with our closest friends and the trade to cannot make him political sizes with our neighbors. with him, established has traditionally been to a drawing, and we always assume that these contacts do use if we choose to be based on consideration of each other's interest was smoking. so today i would like to propose that we have discuss my wife and why don't st. mary's mean,

which is so many of you officially poor condition. and so the elaborate minister of foreign affairs will report on this, please. all right, russian president boot and addressing the russian security council just a few moments ago i meant that comes amid the investigation into the terrorist attack that took place in moscow. i'm just a week ago now. all right, well that is going to do it for me for now, but do stay with us. my colleague, nicky aaron, will be in next in about half an hour with much more news by the the

hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm peter labelle, secretary defense lloyd, austin declared, well hosting his is really counterparts. the us israel military relationship is on shaky level. as israel continues at slaughter of palestinians and gaza, the historical record notes, the american administration is a name co conspirators. to genesis, the cross section palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york is illegal in media analyst in ottawa. we have party em says he is a professor of international law at queen's university as well as author of the united nations and the question of palestine. and in a month we have now sir, i'll be nice. our. he is a bricks and bass that are to jordan and the middle east are a gentleman,

cross up rules, and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate a professor if i can go to you 1st. in ottawa, this is your, um, uh, your area of expertise. so uh the law and how the international community is dealt with the palestine question. i think the international law has been made into complete mockery. it doesn't stand for anything any more, if there are exceptions. and why do we have laws the in the american approach to this quote and quote on a non binding resolution? which correct me if i'm wrong, sir, but i mean, when the united nations security council has a resolution in both side and it becomes international law, how can the americans make that exception? what at the same time, not voiding the entire process. go ahead, professor, i thank you very much for having me. um, well, how to put this delicately. the us position is complete. nonsense. so your question suggested on the article 25 of the united nations charter members of the united nations degree to accepting carry out the decisions of the council. and as has been

confirmed by the international court of justice specifically, and its 1971 an advisory opinion on, there may be a substitution to me. don't take the place with in chapter 7 of the charter, which some commentators are, are the shooting and they cover all decisions of the council. so resolution to $7.00 to $8.00, which calls for a cease fire in gas is one such decision. and it therefore binds bald parties to the conflict, but in particular, israel because it is a member state of united nations. well, now, sorry, and i'm on if, if i'm drawing on what we just heard from the professor in ottawa, even though the united states abstained, it's incumbent upon the united states to take action. if israel does not take action, stop it's laundering. gaza, the west side is obligated by this resolution, even though they abstain permit fees to intervene if they, if necessary, by all means necessary. massive to thank you. first of all,

how easy and what to say is 1st that the, you ask what part of this huge mess around sweltering gather. now the main thing is that this resolution from the security council is obligated to it by law, but the us, well actually competing, disobey is not just starting from the top of the 7 bucks for the last 100 years since the beginning of this huge genocide after the whole us, the course was actually covering israel because it isn't right you, there's a cooling. you know, that when the project is going to be the least, they planted this project. you know, they are covered and you have to be on the even you not just with the political david can in the international community it but also by using thing with weapons by helping them with that the high take that can lead for more and more of that please thing in the the actual the t because the genocide pair but just make

a clean single body style is part of the western. oh sure. it's part of the quality of western culture that, that's actually created israel to set up the schools. well, you know, line on line likes to refer to himself as the guy for in the face bowl on this program. and i appreciate it very much. but the line all if, if you look at the, what happened in the united nations and this is not the 1st time there was an attempt at a resolution calling for a ceasefire. the united states and israel is all alone. is there any awareness here in new york? is there any awareness of that or, or if there is an awareness to people care? uh no. uh, to answer your question. uh, going back historically. you remember uh, a gentleman around the turn of the 20th century. they had these bare knuckle boxers who would do this a lot, and they would jack johnson, and they would do this. they never would land a punch in anybody, but it looks great. that's the you with a, i'm

a lawyer by profession and i'm not an international lawyer at one time. i was asking why is this not in force? i want to read the fine print. it says this is merely aspirational. i'm thinking, well, what's the point of this? so what we're doing is we're having gobbledygook. and not only that, we're having this cool, bulky dance. this theatre, this synchronized scrum, where people stand with arms, a kimball ins as why you. yeah, but like the resolution wasn't aspirational, i mean english as my 1st language, i understood it was pretty clear. okay. it's not the record. it is a demand. but there's no one for all know what, but that was mike. that was my question to are guessing. the mind is, i know it's past the united states must take action and must cut off all aid. it must cut off all diplomatic cover. and if it may have, even if it has to use military force, it has to enforce the rabbit the resolution. ok. and then when you have seen bachelor is saying, i mean the audacity you say,

well this was non binding. nobody else in the room knew that lionel but who is but the next question is fine. who in for is if you go back and you say, excuse me, we must now let, let's all vote for enforcement. if that were even possible, how would that occur? and, and what are the mechanisms in place to do it? and if you don't have a that needs fairly aspirational, it's just, it's a see a rather go body. well then, well, go ahead. like if somebody does come in on line with what i actually what, why actually take his point, the seriously and a great good number of my students regularly ask whether or not, and this goes to the point at lydell is making this, the international law is in the law, in the absence of say for instance, a centralized enforcement mechanism that we would have at most municipal or domestic systems. however, can it be said that this law which is binding is indeed law and bind. and so, but that's a fair question to ask, but then one needs to assess or take account of fact and international. it doesn't

operate in the same way that our domestic legal systems do. there is no centralized enforcement mechanism, but we do have our various mechanisms, one of which is the security council of the united nations who does have the authority to pass and binding resolutions upon all member states of the united nations under article 25 view and charter and in this case, we have great solution of the council and demanding demanding that is obligatory of a ceasefire. and so to the extent that israel is violating that demand to him to a cease fire in the gaza strip, there is no question that as a matter of international law, they are d like they're there, they're violating that law. the next question is as line was mentioned, well, what next? and so the next question is moving to the council. again for more t a resolution that would be cost of the council. would you provide for sanctions on israel for failing to abide by its international legal obligations under auto, under resolution 2728, and so on. and so in a while, as we say under domestic law,

we have direct systems of enforcement under international either less direct but they exist none the less and simply because israel, an outlier and the united states also an outlier on this question um, are violating law doesn't mean the law doesn't exist, it does exist, and the palestinian people are experiencing the neighbors salt. the failure to abide by this international law in their person. some 32000 or more dead killed rather some 70000 or more injured. and 1700000, and that's 85 percent of the population of the gas a strip forcibly transferred all of them indiscriminately bombarded a starvation being used as a tool against them. these are serious matters. now. the principal judicial organ of the united nations has said all of this amounts to plausible genocide, cancelled action must be taken by states. they all have obligations to prevent

genocide. these are positive obligations they exist for the united states may exist for canada, where i'm sitting h, as for every member of the genocide convention and so on. so action can be taken. we just need the political will to get move in. shebedey necessarily in action is is, is culpability as well. i'm. i've titled this program genocide in arms. and if i can go back to my introduction with lloyd austin, you know, unshakable. i mean, that is pleading guilty to the actions of your co conspirator in the middle east, and that's the israel. so for the heck, do you have to go out to this new building genocide now what i haven't yeah, between deland now do we do often actually at gal him gives him a list of the ones that he want to bring out to his room. and during this visit that to me is actually that the us is actually just facing hawk. oh good is we using those came out to the security council. this is for 2nd. we need to check the

real and the fact that the actual u as political pores in to the citizens until now, more than 240 ship and we're actually kind of old kind of wavelengths were sent to live, right? yeah, also you can just to check the other trigger decent more than 2000 bleed b as bear with me is the know there to get a, a israel direct to the code this well. so if we want to be honest and to be a friend to with oh, our block units, we have to say that the, you asked if they came to us and verify the this, i'm going, genocide is a full body. this is the only description that we can describe the eu has action since the october 7th. i'm filling out. and actually if we want to obtain back in history, i'm ready to have a you has just a guarantee. if that is right, you will always been team have a,

what do we can describe has advanced the military aid all over the region, your order not just to, you know, secure or, or to give as real as they say that are the right of defense. but to ensure that they are doing anything, the whole area, and no one will ever had the problem with nicer with that is that when that had gemini is challenged, then the united states is, it's putting itself into a position where it has to fight all of israel's enemies, and that's exactly what the government in, in israel wants and that's and yeah, and wants the united states to fight. it's worse for it. you do agree with me? yeah, it's a fault and i agree with this, but the thing is how they will fund it down by then once a different version of how we will achieve those goals. so there's actually one actually i believe you can send in 3. 0, so i told you and let me delete it and israel is the one who's leaving the

restaurant extra in the middle east. but the thing is, we're on the back there to hold that thought. we have to go to our hard break. and after that hard grateful continue, our discussion on palestine state with our team the when i would show the wrong just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement equals the trail.

when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground the in 1941 with the nazis health relation, ultram nationalists, the massages claimed the independent state of croatia. shortly off, the seizing power. they billed the same events, concentration camp a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia. during world war 2, the stash is used to come system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other non catholic minorities, and political opponents of the fascist regime conditions in the santa of us. campbell, who renders the gods to which it to arise and the prisoners they send them a consultation temps. so most of them died. it was incredible genocide. the welcome

back across black where all things are considered. i'm gabriel about commend you were discussing palestine the you know, it was line and let's go back to line to a new york, one of the things that it really weighs heavy it's and way have on all. all of us here. is it particularly in the united states, but it through the rest of the world in general? but in the united states, all of this is kimberly the genocide. they won't use the word of course and not allowed to. but all of what's going on is all couched in, in the election calculations. so, you know, biden's go to louis michigan, who can do anything i find to it. it almost takes the life out of me. i mean, here put fits tens of thousands of people are being killed and the worried about which direction one congressional district. my go, i mean, that is just so hollow. it shows how hollowed out western society is. lionel this

week, which one of the biggest fund raisers ever at radio city music hall with the obama and clinton and then in a raise $1020000000.00. the the, the democratic party has been absolutely dead mora been in a coma. and here's the best part in peter you and i have talked about this before. the people, this is, this is so skits of funding for me, the people that i, i used to dismiss as being my political, the and, and capital of opposite whatever. i'm now listening who make more sense. i read somebody to a friend of mine, was one of the most cogent answer regarding what the american responsibility is to the saving of lives. children and then people starving, and i read it. and i said guess who said that alexandria. okay,

so again. okay. so say the same thing has happened to me over the last but in the last few new cycles. yeah. and i'm thinking of myself, wait a minute. the also the rise of, of a platform this week also in new york obviously would be in baltimore. there was a wedge collapse and button said, where are we, you know, we said we will, we will put this together. we will pay for this. so people ask, where are you getting the money for this? and we all said, ah, good question, isn't it funny when it comes to our infrastructure and up there, by the way, this very domestic get them? i don't mean to boy, but, but to show you there's this question that people should be asking is, where do we get money to support ourselves here? where is the democratic response and peter, you, when you're from a generation where the left to progressive left were part of typically almost arguably anti war. yeah, and i, and i finally,

i'm saying if you just could replace the words israel with, let's say france or scotland and did it, how could france do this? there would be a completely different discussion. forget the word genocide. so what we're doing is, again, i'm going to be in a, in a, an a 1st ball. but the democratic party, the republicans are very clear. they're absolutely adamant they're, they're consistent. but the democrats are skipped to products and this will be the chance for the republicans to, to seize upon that, to form a schism. they won't even do it. yeah. but so, but lied on that. it that the downside of that is, or republicans or pro israel and palestine. so be careful what you hope for professor in ottawa, you know, one of the things, it's very unsettling for me as an american coming from the west is that, you know, the west is a come to terms in many ways with its colonial saddler projects around the world and they, they, they lay their face and shame. and there's will talk of reparations about how

countries or peoples all around the world recover from colonialism, imperialism, but it's the west and almost exclusively in the west. but it is promoting a settler, a colonial st project in the middle east, and they don't, nobody in the west likes to talk about. it's too uncomfortable. you know, i mean a, again, a line on i as americans, you know, you know, what we did to the native americans was shameful, with slot or we didn't use the word genocide, but that's what it was. but the west now it says flipped and saying, well this project is ok, professor. yeah, uh, yeah, no very, very good point. and in fact uh, as a canadian, but we have under gone very much the same if you like transition. uh, uh the, the representation of what canada has done to the 1st nations people, the indigenous people in canada has been effectively whitewashed. where now, where we sat and a few poorly about it in the public. but little was done to assist the situation of

real people on the ground, living in poverty here in canada to our 1st nations. and so this has given rise to my view that a lot of this concern for the settler colonial project or reconciliation with what we have done in anything that quote unquote new world is profound. it is. and we have proof of that not only by how we treat patients, how the states and canada, the united states and other settler colonies treat their 1st nations people. but all foreign policies as well and instructive the natives of palestine where an indigenous population is very good, clearly ending real time. and it continually since 1947 undergoing a process of an ethnic cleansing of displacement on the one hand, and replacements on the other by combining by folks who want to take their land and resources take, for instance, a very many public statements made. not many of the statements but actions taken by

is really meters who indicate the once and gas that use gas. think we cleanse the ones, the palestinian population, all $2200000.00 of them are driven into the sign i or driven so somewhere or perhaps even into the sea that they'll take over their land and build properties and resettle the gaza strip and so on. so as you, as you rightly point out, there's a continuum here, and it is no, a wonder why israel's staunchest supporters in the guise of matter. now, are the settler colonies of the west, the united states, canada, and someone that needs to be called out. and i'm glad you put that question to us, but i do think that it is self evident for a lot of folks in the global south. certainly the medians, certainly the south africans who've taken this case before, the international court of justice on genocide and so on. so we're adding inflection point gas has provided an inflection point in international relations driving a wedge between the global so. so you can see what's actually happening on the ground in gasoline and to the beleaguered gas and pulse daneen population and other

small countries. the smaller number of countries, but far more powerful in the industrialized west. yeah. now, so one of the most pathetic things, i mean it's almost a half of year of just unbelievable tragedy and, and, and for the most part the but a, the lead. so in the west turned their face away, they don't want to see it. okay. if i don't see it, then they're not culpable, but everybody can see it. all right, so jared questionnaire, the son in law of donald trump. his comments in the it was in the telegraph. he was at the kennedy school and he just talked about the as the palestine. question is if it was just a real estate issue. yeah, that's fine. i saw that video and i love your laptop because there's a conflict with that. have been late. oh, cool, cool. we were actually live and under for the past 100 years, because this 3 is an open space for all kind of, you know, absorbing resources and just making more profit. and so then we're just not the

humans. and the humanizing us makes this land and hope and land warm yusef loves who will gain and make more money and the name of the western civilization which is actually not just gonna let me see me but it's actually um, it's just i it's i can't imagine someone is just can just talk about the appropriate use of the guidance people who are actually guild, systematically for the last 6 months. and just do so easy to about. it is like um, you know, a commercial project where this land is. uh, you know, uh, gonna bring the lower investments for that is right here is, and that's why they issued and they have to, you know, help you buy this. you're not the rich coast, you know, who are you just forgot to tell any of the students that that's cool, that they're aware male, what more than one being and susan 100, i'm

a senior. i looked in the same area. actually what she's proposing is let us just participate fully because it isn't profits and money. definitely. oh all the more. so it's like, oh so don't have it all have probably seen. it's all the more. so since i'm a most of the power cities look gaza strip, they've already been displaced. maybe sometimes many, many times. i mean, you keep pushing them that way. i mean, it is really extraordinary. you know, line on it and you know, you and i have known each other for a very long time and you know, we have a sarcastically ripped apart this whole works culture. you know, i'm a victim, you're a victim. were who is the victim on the totem? pole and all that, but i've seen bar deletes dallas city and so not victims are they. it's just an amazing to me how the left, particularly in the lab. they can go down the day by the totem pole of who's been victimized. but the palestinians are just not there. you can't see them. we're not allowed to see them line. oh, yeah. if, if ever, you know, peter, i, we,

we always, well, we, the, the right always speaks of this mystical, magical, incredible wizard, saul, a lensky, and how he created this, these a, these a die the dialectic and, and let me tell you the way it works here is very, very simple, then you can watch any television show or any kind of, of attempt of discussing it. you will ask the question, do you recognize it? how much is a terrorist organization? do you believe that what that is real has the right to defend itself. and then for some reason it just stops. and to show everything began on october, the 7th. and it's, and that's the launching part. what would you do? what am say, wait a minute, that that doesn't even be getting to even even remotely, but she paid her in gentleman as you know in our culture, you have a one minute block. if you are lucky or any major cable news or the air quotes

your news, and that's as far as it goes. do you know what it's like for anybody to say, let me give you 75 years plus of not true, but perspective it's, there is no time for that. it's look, that's a tough place. they've got to defend themselves. and we, we invoke 911. yeah. yeah. what you're saying, they've had a lot about a time and memorial. they've been enemies here. let me, let me finish off with the professor. i don't. oh god, why don't i? why don't i just get in on that the you, me just to go back to peter with the point to do the new made house. that means being able to represent themselves. this has been a classic problem. and edward site put it very, very well when he asked a tiny and she for permission to married situation with palestine is as simple as you mentioned in the gaza strip. 7075 percent of the population are themselves not guessing their palestine refugees who originate from areas that became the state of israel in 1947, 4849 and are only in the gaza strip in force to exile because they're not huge

because the state of israel is prohibiting their ability to return their right to return to their homes from which they were for somebody professor, i mean, all right, i have, i have to jump in here on this very sailing point, but we've run out of time. i want to thank my guess an auto in new york and i'm on and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in archie and see you next time. remember, prospect rules the a wrench if i do this, but it's a bit of what comes the letter such a little bit to me, let me know. even though for you, but i hope all of the school goodness, that's if you find out where you liked it, the worse for you see what's going on with her or to

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