the, the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals. what are some of the living will not have very good propaganda. you know a price here in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is, will be the the

the the mr. plug into you're most welcome to the program. so thank you. so once again, our discussion of this security council on nato is actions and you've been slow here. they've been blocked. why are western powers in your views so reluctant to, to even reflect on not episode of their military intervention?

i think they, they are afraid. they, i afraid they'll get through that so we will come out. they don't want the world to lease some once again to the details of a that's a horrible and we went to the campaign and totally unlawful. we went to the campaign that the conduct it's against against yugoslavia. they also don't want us to highlights the responsibility of their leaders at the time of need to leaders . that's why they want to to shut the miles off. so everybody, the, i'm not interested in this, but in reality we 1st um ask for the before this meeting on monday and differentiate presented to you for using prosy procedural uh, who is, is uh, blocked uh, i will be. but in reality, we started every meeting of the security council during this week with highlighting these procedural, russo follow a french colleagues and forcing for the vote of the agenda of the meeting. and we

also squeezed the phrase or 2 about nato's aggression. i guess you guys live here, so instead of having one meeting on monday, just heard they actually had the whole week. it's worth pointing out as well, isn't it? that russia simply requested a discussion regarding the nato bombing a, not the adoption of any kind of formal resolution on the monitor at something as basic as that on the 1st real significant down there for history, all of the bombing 25 years on. it's an important date. it was that are opposition from a specific countries. you mention france, there was, it wasn't one reason do think a certain reason or where there are various reasons why i those countries did not why there was so such opposition to having a discussion of the debate. this is something that's uh, usually not happening uh the as the un and the security council because there is an article uh,

number 2 of the provisional rules of procedural security council. which implies that the, the current president of the council goals and meeting upon the request of any council member, usually these equals some kind of freedom of speech and freedom of expression. and nobody questions such beats. but in these and this time at this time, we really looks like we really have ships, the nerve of our western colleagues, especially the french calling. there is nothing extra ordinary, not request. and we said that's the consequences of nato aggression. i felt until this date and actually all the problems that we have on the ball comes specifically in the relations between serbia and it's integral part costs of a. we're also triggered by need to address them. we can say that this is right there. elements, we can say that this is historic, for fact only, there are

a lot of historic situations on the agenda of the call. so that's a mets or even today. how can we discussed me the east, for example, without discussing the consequences of the last of the 1973 or 9 to 6 to 7 or even 1948. it's absolutely impossible. so this is ridiculous. the last of all to yesterday, there were a 6 countries altogether, and actually it was clear divides between the west, some countries and along with some countries and the security council. so the wisconsin was the rest of the countries. they acted in line with the block discipline and they supported each other, but it was absolutely clear that their way behind these attempt to impose the sounds. so sheets in security council, which is a very difficult to conceal from from world public. yeah, there are 15 countries, 5 permanent members, so we got just below the threshold without, without the 2nd number, the 6, if we adopt these very, promote is french logic them of in order to hold a meeting, we should have got

a 9 volts for the meeting so we will have a short sale, zeroed shorts of these 9 volts, but according to our logic, as french questions, not the agenda items that we used about the meeting itself. they should have, uh, they should have updates 9 votes, but the president of japan also blaine's the bleed into the hands of uh, west some countries for obvious reasons. and so she didn't want to formulate the question in the right way. that's happened sometimes. unfortunately, i'm just curious across some people in serbia just to pick up and something you said people in the country who survived the, the 78 days of nato bombing. and then, of course, the aftermath were many more people died. and they said we will never forgive, and we will never forget. but you think that you and you've mentioned some of the countries involved, that the western powers that took part wish that they could for a guest thought it was just essentially put under the rug. exactly,

that was behind the reasoning french and best of the planes. that's uh survey. it was not aware of the fact of the meeting so rational didn't consult with serbia. and this was a belief and flight because of it was very much interested in the folding. these meeting up to everything. prime minister, even so that's just a case specifically to new york to be brought to this meeting and run the friendship presented. he was thinking she was teaching in default listening to his beasley explains that serbia was not the way of freshman requests. so actually, to assume there was even more interested to spell that through the spell out the truth about what has happened done to remind that the consequences of this aggression i still felt this, do felt by people leaving their hands. we had to reverse the whole mind, very thankful for their readiness to participate on these reverse whereabouts to explain in detail what are the consequences for certain population medical,

illogical infrastructure or whatever that i felt even right now, 25 years after these aggression. so these would have been a very, very important discussions, and of course it gave our western colleagues hold seats and they wanted to avoid it at any price. and that's why the really uh, stakes the for the ability and the they all started to the council asking for the so the degree to a procedural goals and trying to conceal the fact that they were questioning the effect of the meeting and not the item on the edge and the lease was very shameful, then pathetic to which there may be people are watching start wondering why 255 years old. that of course, the anniversary is so significant this week. but why the offense of what happened in you? then you can slow be a why are they so important? no, for russia that they are important not only for russian,

they are important for the whole world. and we see that there are still open homes in the ball comes not only in serbia about elsewhere. and especially when we speak about the relations between bill great and preached, and there are a lot of the full outs that's really offensive assessor sounds that you have on the right now in serbia and around and the cost of assorted is defining international community. i'll define, excuse me, to counsel what are the aleutians, the relevance of 1st and foremost, foremost, 1244. recently were shows that the elementary assembly of the council of europe recommended the mission of coastal uh to the council, which is a clear violation of resolution $1244.00. so all these things are happening because of a need to aggression goes through gus. love it because of the fact that it's a national war was absolutely devastated tons rates by west some countries they

bypassed a security council that moment the this to the pressure china will not support such an action. uh some uh, some scholars believe that this was a turning points in the whole system of international relations because this one was kind of different uh, the freezing or for free for, or the freezing of the contradictions that have frozen off to the cold war. so it was kind of a resurrection of, of, of cold void. so it's in full. and i think that there are a lot of reasons for them. so we, we believe that these precedents when the need so luck attacked. and it depends on the country and actually sees about to get started. and them declare it's uh, the independent clause independent states. they are always imposing on every body

to recognize these states. this is likely a precedent when the post war post cold war system was chapter and the helsinki act was just at this moment. and of course, the west doesn't want to acknowledge it. they, they say that doesn't matter very much. they are now referring to the ones that happened in 2022, but they are absolutely authentic and trying to conceal the truth about this aggression and its role in the international relations of the they're all of which fall out in that the national relations years a lot of fab big topics there. i'll return to something a little bit later if i can, but just returning to 1999. what was your assessment? what is your assessment of russia's stance on the nato bombing campaign of thought? time on? has most schools position shifted at all over the years since then? well, that was the turning point. i remember it's quite well, it was already

a young diploma to me before and service. and the very many people remember as well. that's uh, there was these famous, so you turn over the atlantic by the russian or by the russian federal government. so you're getting, you pretty. my goal was going to washington to sign. so it's in agreements about financial assistance from the states and the international money into the funds. so what that i don't remember exactly about people that decision. i'm going to learn to about the aggression to make a u turn indicated. tons of moscow. this all was a very symbolic and so i think that was the rights move to make because it was absolutely clear at this point. that's the only problem is this of the west. all the, all the hopes that there will be a fair international system built up to the dissolution of the soviet union out that, that the west will keep the problem is that way, given to, to solve it, then the russian leaders at that moment, all these hopes are absolutely useless and baseless the west is having its own

agenda and implies uh these these time and then some flies uh doing away with us live in serbia who knows what will be next time. so the moods right them where kind of a shock, because people really where hoping that this going out, this would never happen. that way. hoping that where there were certain openings in the relations between the russian, the west. they were hoping that the, the 30 minutes of the cold war has gone forever. but the west with his actions prove otherwise. and we are where we are. i think that a lot of things that are happening to the also route back to these very unfortunate to the criminal decision by inviting you to lead us just to point out what the russian leader has said subsequently, invalid were put in stating of the bombing of belgrade was a turning point for moscow itself on one of the defining moments between east and

west since the cold war a. do you agree that it was significant? how's that? it's absolutely, absolutely. i would like to say that. so this is a, this is a ethics ethics of, of these time and ethics of international relations. and of course, this is a benchmark, a whole mark that we all remember and this will forever stay in our memory. no matter how old the west tries to, to consume attempt to put it in the shade they will never succeed. in doing so. the western refusal to discuss the events coming shortly after serbian president alexandro boot church warren, that quote difficult days lie ahead for his country. what do you think he meant by that? well, i may be mistaken, but it looks like she was mentioning this decision. that's the reference to the decision of 11th or assembly on the council of europe to meet the customer as an

independent states. this is of course, total violation of international law for you guys, security council resolution absolute lawlessness basis and the police on the example of these rules based international order that the us on these ellers are promoting. where they are formulating the rules and they are asking and demanding that all this a be to this rules. it says nothing to do with international law. and you mentioned costs of, oh, earlier, the self proclaimed authorities there or how they choose moscow trying to use the issue of the nato bombing, the deepest lobby of some sort of justification for what is now happening in ukraine. how would you respond to that as well? is difficult for me to comment, so what's the, what's on the minds? i think they'd better think about how to manage the problems that they have. great . it's in relations between christian and build rate. we recently discussed in the

security council of the issue of the banning of the circulation of serbian deena in the northern parts of, of casa, which means the life of tolerable for thought for certain population of these, of these the area. there are a lot of other things that's cost of lead has promised to build right in the framework of the brussels discussions under the close of the european union. but the gets no single pro promise out of this and things are further being complicates . in spite of these, uh, the prospect of, of course, so uh, being admitted to the council of europe. this up to so again, friends to formulate the reaction. but this is that something disgusting. frankly, what the west is doing in these so called solicitation. so i think that the uh, possible effect i started to distribute to think about the, these events and lots of mentions, something else happening in the other. but,

you know, you can solve an ukraine, have both become focal points in the re shipping on orders in europe. however, while the west was quick to back, the self proclaimed independence of costs of a rapidly quick. i remember when that happened it's refused to recognize rushes, re unification, to try me on more recently for new regions. can i get your, your, why such an inconsistent approach to this? it just seems to be an opposite the different levels as well. these are absolutely shameful, the blades and the double standards. we discussed this issue repeatedly with the rest of the colleagues, but they pretend to be absolutely deaf lines. and now when we raised these issues, we, for example, points out to them that you know, even costs of the independence was brooklyn's by the problem. whereas the decision

on the crimea was taken as a result of the for random. so if you speak about democratic procedure, so then they were absolutely observed in case of, of russia, but they were absolutely disregard as in case of customer. so of course, these are, these are believes and double standards. so this is the, the cornerstone of these a double stand that sound the policy of rules based international order. that's the west is trying to impose. i think this is all because for everybody, for every unbiased scroll up for every unbiased diploma, this is absolutely clear what has happened and bustling and what are the for a lot. what does that fall out of? it's on all of us. if i can turn away from the uh, you can stop the anniversary for a moment or 2 and talk about the un security council itself. so, or to what extent is it still relevant able to fully function when it comes to conflicts like ukraine, on gaza. there's some critics say it's turning into another league of nations which

became the funds that had of the 2nd world war. how does the time come to reform the u. n. s. c, and what sort of changes are needed there in europe? you? well, frankly, i don't think that the skillets across the security council is the relevant and the, i don't think that it's a price comparison between the u. m. and the league of nations. the big difference is of the existence of, of the permanent members of the security council who have the right to veto. this is a very important function which x actually should be viewed as the key incentive to find and negotiate a solution. and that's how it usually works. for example, recently a restaurant china to use the veto when you yes, tables resolution, which was actually the green light for you. so to continue what it does in gaza,

which reference to the ceasefire, which was actually the main demands of the international community only as the tournament determines, the imperative obedience, east fight. and so i really felt on the stand, what does it determines to imperative on how it could have been implemented practically. so when he told these draft, and immediately after this, uh, there was another draft prepared by a non permanent members of the security council, which demanded ceasefire. and these draft was adopted. the bulk of the situation was on vision and the security calls of those where there are no deep differences among the 5 permanent members. and so they are, the council was very efficiently forget the council works together. i specifically have in mind for example, african issues or like columbia or some other crisis situation so. so these 2 issues, they have very important. they are very loud,

but they do not to present the bulk of the agenda of the secuity because the council of course, needs to be formed. everybody agrees that it's needs to beautiful, but the positions of the cancer has a very different they have anybody for example, acknowledges that's a security council or should be the compositional disagree with your council should reflect the situation in the world. and that's, there should be a correction officer, started can justice was african continental. she has numerous sons, which represents a lot of items on the agenda of security council. so everybody's in favor of adding a african members to the security council. same of all different kinds of age in america, but uh they are, there is also understanding that's such an important issue as any form of disagree with your call. so uh, should i come through a solution which would be uh, ideally, consensual or close to this because this is something that's kind of be imposed by

a majority to minority, for example, is a vote in the general assembly. this is too important, and this will never work if it is the case, and they are comp some diverse, you'll see that version says on the representation. for example, it all shot and some other countries clearly saying that the rest is over at present. and i think that the recent situation that we just talked about discussion ways in the, in the us live, i'm using, clearly shows this, the western countries, they use blog discipline and the defect to block uh, security costs are from discussing the issues that they don't want to discuss, they have these kids on the beach, so sometimes united states and its allies, they don't need to devote against. and this doesn't count as a veto power because because um, we simply do not have enough votes to prep the remo. the decisions definitely want . so the west is already presented various of the international or arena, you know,

they're all over the west is declining. best way to clear out the voices of the african agent ways in american countries. uh, sounding loud and loud and they are not codes in the security call. so either way they should be hers. and just finally, i'm the, i hope i don't part of phrase you wrongly but, but earlier you're saying that if you don't have an understanding of the past, you're doing to repeat the mistakes in the future. not if we go, if you look at certain things in the recent past, the past 100 years or so, you've got this san francisco conference in 1945 famously leading out the post world war 2 order of international relations the most to summit in 1989, the us and the soviet union to turn the end of the cold war, essentially paving the way for a unit portal world order. know that the world is again, going through a huge change. the next lunmark peace conference, b as world altering it is there, is there a bill it so you for that to happen on where could that happen?

well, it's difficult to speak about through this stage because we are not there yet. i think that at this stage the west is still trying to print and that's uh, nothing is happening. that's uh the world is not changing in the way it is changing and they are trying to degree and to grasp that's there waiting position in the world. but this is the process that we, we negatively come to the point where then you, then you will to really manage the multiple world. and we will of course, have to discuss of the foundations of this world. by the way, i could say maybe some people will not agree with me about the u. m. b. and shouldn't be very helpful in these exercise because the chapter of the i'm is the basis for international law as you're on the is in itself. it's the, the cornerstone of multi polarity is the question of interpretation. not the fact that the know for example, the child, so it needs to be corrected. same the,

the so that way it's not necessarily so, so why don't you there when we could discuss the next conference where it should take place and make some traveling arrangements for these so far the way to so just varies, step stubborn. it doesn't want to dialect still has some hoops to inflict to my country strategic defeats or at least a week. and it's significantly, but it's quite obvious from what we see in reality. that's um, this is a really wishful thinking. i'll follow with some neighbors and they will inevitably come to the understanding that we should talk. we should speak about the root cause is not, that's what happens in 2022 as the for them that this is the uh, the only thing that we can discuss and all we should discuss a lot of things, including gus laria including needs are in large amounts, including the capt promises of uh, what's the latest to, to the saga ton,

the address and lead us at least a lot of issues. it should be very frank discussion and we are ready for these. we already, we all was cold for the west, stay engaged on site discussion. you know, that we made the proposal proposals on the european security and in the late to 1021, which with understandingly rejected by the us and by need. so there are a lot of things to be discussed on that. i'm sure we will find a time and place provided the west uh, takes away, so rosie glosses and looks at the reality, which is quite green for some transfers right now. well, thank you for having a dialogue with our tea. you've been more than good with your time today, sir. we've been speaking it to rest as deputy and foster to the united nations. dimitri podiums be good to see you. the

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