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was left leaving for 3 hours on the floor and he didn't get any medical treatment and the best the best out. and didn't understand what was happening. and then he found many bruises and many entities on his right foot on his back on his shoulder and even on his forehead, the color of punishment. the policy believe that is really government they, they haven't changed that they would own was a financial independence thing. and people for the anything that anyone does. and i think that the, the took advantage of october the 7th to continue with that project office. and they click lensing and even to genocide, the understanding of people as we can see and goes. and i think that they took advantage of the fact that everyone is busy with their genocide and goes to abuse the but it's get better than us. and they know that they are doing these things against the international law. and yet no one is able to stop them. unfortunately, i think that the government has got an a 4 year green light for the west and
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government to do whatever they want the with the stadium people. and i think that the, but it's good but isn't as issue is a very sensitive issue towards up in his statements and specially in the west bank because this is something that could escalate things in the west bank uh the method . ideally, what we want is, of course, to see sanctions and to see punishment against the government for violating the international law. and to stop seeing that they say these are above and below the international law. they have been above the law for decades now. but since they're getting the creation of the state of wizard and even de leon, ok, patient or for the for the student that have to be since 1967. and i think that, you know, the genocide done the atrocities and domestic as the they are practicing and goes is the biggest proof that the world has lost sense of humanity because they had any sense of humanity. they would stop that and is like they are trying to stop any other country to,
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to have any i get us in towards any other company to well that. so we had chosen to pack in the ssl, but we'll have a fresh look at the news. it runs 13 minutes of the hopes that you can join the 2nd, [000:00:00;00] the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered on theater. lavelle staring into the abyss. israel's genocidal assault on gauze is dangerously destabilizing, the entire middle east. it is readily apparent to these railways were spoiling for
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a major war with many of its neighbors. and the plan is to have the united states fight, israel's enemies, the press ok in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel and new york is a legal and media analyst, and in riverdale, we have sam who's any, he is an independent journalist, are told in cross lock rules in effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated sam, let me go to you 1st here because there's so many things to talk about simultaneously. right now, we have the, the deliberate attack on aid workers from the world. uh, central kitchen. we have the attack on the rainy and consulate in damascus. we have the defense minister of israel, threatening very openly, very clearly about a possible, a new front of lebanon, obviously, fighting has the law. and meanwhile,
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the united states keeps giving israel a pass every, in every sense possible. one of the things is becoming very apparent also is with watching state department officials approach the press and even even the people that want act or practice acts as journalism. the see them kind of, there was, there was a staring into space like they can't believe what they're hearing. they don't have the courage enough to push back yet. but there is something in the or how do you explain the moment. we're in sam. and i think that this is the combination of a long designed um, uh, setup parameters that between the us and is ro to bludgeon the palestinians. october 7th, was simply the pretext for the tendency that as well as long as the ultimately genocidal project turned into ethnically cleanse of the palestinian people. um, barton is attempt no parts of the truth of this have gotten to the us public biden is attempting to distance himself from this establishment. media which enabled this
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are attempting to distance themselves from this the international community. and in spite of the efforts of south africa, the international court of justice is not no reason to the k. it is not implementing international law and the international. it's a so called international criminal court is obviously a corrupted ruins. um, i think the next step that needs to happen, in addition to internal domestic us politics attempting to address things is for other nations to go and use uniting for peace. because the us has blocked anything at the general assembly of the united nations. because the us has blocked anything and everything meaningful as a security council. they finally abstained on a resolution for a ceasefire,
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the only 2 weeks and then immediately undermined it by saying it's non binding. this has been an attempt to facilitate and indeed participate in genocide through and through by the us establishment of the us government. the rest of the nations of the world need to use every mechanism possible including uniting for peace, which is the way that the the us initiated this to, to facilitate the korean war. and to address the west crisis in 1956. and it isn't for the general assembly to step in and effectively seize control over the situation when a member of the security council refuses to allow international law to be applied to a situation. so countries from brazil to russia, to china, to out your area, to the house, there needs to be so a need to step up and do that as the next step and to, to increase the costs to these, or at least, you know, line. oh, i think they, they offer to phrase,
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there is the cost of the united states because israel will continue to do what it does because it knows there is no red lines for its great paid for in the united states. but as sam is pointed out here, i mean in the united states, is this not complicit? so i mean, it is the engineer of what's going on here in the world knows that, i mean israel may not care that it's a pariah in the world. but the united states, most americans would not want to think of themselves that way, but that is a reality that's coming into being line. oh, i, i asked the question, what set of facts will it take for either the entire world or the united states to finally say, all right, that's enough that you know, this is this, this is are not. and when, when people started to mentioned the word genocide, they're repeat it when we 1st started to do this, people were very reluctant. yep. and it was, and i would say the problem that we have with the word genocide just because it, it conjures in people's mind kind of a colloquial version of what it means of categories of world war 2. but,
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but person with the statute. ok, i've changed my way of thinking. we need a stronger word because it's beyond that because not only is it what is statutorily genocide, but it is d a d, a bedding counseling, procuring hires in our accomplish statutes in the laws of my husband. i'm a lawyer when you are an accomplice, is that the you are a principal in the 1st degree you are as guilty as any one else. if you facilitate aid and abet this and i don't want to jump our, our a subject matter today, but we, but, but this week i'm thinking maybe maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel with this horrible attack on jose andrews and these workers and why do i want to tell people? and i want to scream, i'm very happy people are big judges that where is that? how have you been helped? thank you. thank you for noticing this. thank you. but these were, these are 3 kind was or 33 just horrible. what we're talking about $30000.00 people
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were talking starvation, those levels, but, but it, but if that's what it is, if that's what it takes about trying to figure out what it takes for to finally get a reaction. because i think we're almost like our souls are like press b c's. we don't feel them anymore. we have phantom pain where we used to have a concert. we used to remember, we used to feel now. now we're, we're going through the motions. maybe something's happening. maybe something will happen, especially as the the alleged has come about. but, but i, i'm telling you, gentlemen, i, i live in a parallel universe. i asked the question, using just the facts, being instrument rated irrespective of the parties involved, what will it take for every and woman and child to say that's enough? and yeah, it's, it's really, it's am, it's, it's really interesting line that brings up a really good point. obviously, the attack on this con, by the world central kitchen comm boy was just exasperating. i mean, it was,
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it was methodically done. but if you look at the, the western reaction to it or aid workers were killed, but they didn't really fill out the space, you know, because there is a, a famine going on because there is starve ation going on here. and it takes the death of, of the 7 workers, god bless their souls and their families for the world to be aware that what about the last $10000.00 people that were killed and gods, but we still weren't the western world. this still does not want to see the real victims of all of this here, but they the, the death of the aid workers, maybe a made people opened their eyes for a 2nd, but it doesn't give the attention why, where they killed. okay, we're not the, it's not that's never in the 1st 3 paragraphs, sam. yeah, absolutely. i mean, what's business article is not simply the killing of those aid workers and others with the group. it's been methodical since october 7. they have no, no nothing, no electricity. the genocidal intent has been they are from the start and what's
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all in, you know, they went after tribal leaders who were distributing food they went, asked our owner was the day that the south africa went to the international court of justice as well. the excel rated there janice island tend to by going after the wonder was saying that they were involved in october 7th. it was obviously a propaganda flying from the beginning. just lots of the heavy babies. stuff was a propaganda poured from the beginning. and then what did they, they, what do we find out? they tortured that information out of people. it's finds all the way down, a tortured false, confessions out of people to say that on the road was involved in, in october 7th. so that they could cut off the supplies so that they could use start ation as a weapon. no more. is there anything more heinous? it's been methodical in terms of how they've gone after since october,
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7th. and before anyone who stood in their way would be demonized. roger waters is somehow an anti semite, anybody and everybody can can just so and so you know, yeah, you know, some of the brightest up up our minds coming up and they're demonized to, you know, a line on that. that's one of the things it's so disturbing to me is that in a domestic context in the united states is that i thought the conservatives for free or for free speech all year for free speech, except when it comes to go ahead. while i have 3 things that i used to believe, and if i, if, if you had told me here are the rules, conservative, liberal, progressive. and she wore free speech with the people who work, you know, the berkeley free speech of the 1st amendment, the whole doing what the signed. and the last not, not only is the prototypical arc, a typical left brain dead during the coma. they don't know what's going on, peter,
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can you imagine and then can, can, can you imagine if we were to use these arguments during vietnam? yeah, they want to say you're out of your mind if, if imagine me lie, as in that was i hate to say there's nothing and we'll just the little village edit, grove, everybody. sy hersh was a gene. if i use the same arguments for that, the who don't, don't americans have the right to defend themselves as a, what are you talking about? do i mean these arguments you talking about metal fatigue? we're still using them to this day, but, but i'm telling you something happened. and for the 1st time that i'm here because i'm here in the 1st bull, remember this, i'm hearing people for the 1st time say wait a minute. maybe there's something wrong with. there's a list or whatever it takes to get people's attention. god bless. maybe the maybe the blood brain barrier has been finally permeated. maybe there's something happened in mark my words gentlemen. as we get closer to the elections. watch, watch, just flip, watch, blink, you'd become a little bit more animated,
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but also have you noticed there's kabuki there, where they stand there waiting their fingers at that and you know, why? well, what do you decide? let me, let me go to sat and before we go to the break here, i mean, that's one of the things that so infuriating is to watch these public officials lies. well. these are lies that are very easy to do. just discern, i mean, you know, the attack on the convoy, everybody in the world knows what happens except for the us state department, sam. yeah. and you know, the us to set up the parameters or attempted to set up the parameters to about the to do, you know, this will rate international law in this context had been which is the state department. and i asked them not just of the at the genocide convention, but even the geneva conventions they, they are taken to that day. yep. abide by the geneva conventions. but when you really parse out their words, and i have, you know, they, sometimes they don't call on me, i have to go up to them afterwards privately. and i basically got them to admit that they don't recognize the exam to hold that top,
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we're going to go back to international law, but we're go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state with our team, the media data. yeah. who is shown on this because of the of the associate vehicle catch to go and show it to you and you're doing the properties is the best . let's just put on the, since i see the fish lice, does it have some students go to both of them the media to decide because what it is, uh, my, your, it was the one year that it was already sides. so i don't think that spring spit use it up a year ago. was that glitched?
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i know got all the the welcome back across software. all things are considered non peter roosevelt mind you were discussing palestine the but 1st input on we have mohammed mirandi. here is a professor at the university of the around a, at the end of the 1st part of the program. we're talking about how the united states now does not recognize or does even aware of international law. so professor miranda had a one really basic, broad question. so
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a theme that you and i've talked about for many, many years, is it, israel is essentially morally corrupted. the west and the west is willingly accepting it. it's not resisting. yes, i think that's becoming increasingly clear that there's really regime has not only morally corrupted the west more than it was before, but that it is doing so in the eyes of the international community. the whole globe is watching what's going on. just imagine the is riley, almost all on a single day. there's really reasoning withdraws from the hospital that is ship hospital, hundreds of dead people. people with their hands bound women, physicians, and they're a woman physician and her son who was also a physician, a murdered, executed. on the same day, there's raving machine by late syrian aerospace,
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the bombs, the iranian consulate in kills a number of iranian officials and a senior military official. also on the same day, we have the assassination of the aid workers from an aide organization that is very, very close to the us state department. what happens afterwards? nothing? well, it may be that that shows the level of impunity that israel believes it has because the united states allowed the lytle, i'm going to give you a situation of name press or miranda already mentioned the, the bombing of the already and cancel it and, and damascus and, and then the how these, the talking heads funded later, this is i'm going to give you the spend, but with an example. so lionel as gen, stultz and berg, the secretary general of nato, he goes to the rainy of the ukrainian embassy in belgium. and
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they're then talking about war plans and ukraine. well, given what israel just did, russia would have the right to bomb the ukrainian embassy there because there's discussing war plants and terrorism. of course, the world would never accept that. but the world, the western world line line all turns it's i away from a crime. i mean that one of the simplest things in international relations is that embassies and consulates are off limits except for here we go again, line on to quote ronald reagan theater. there you go again. there you go again with this thing called logic. there you go again, pointing out the obvious. don't you understand. these are different times. don't you understand that these places are actually used as a human shield or building shields? these are actually repositories and a battle ground were weapons or get you, you create the narrative. when you try to think of a way to excuse of this,
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you just come up with something and then you asked, what was there any evidence of that evidence? remember that it doesn't matter what we're saying is, this is way that right now as we speak. there is this, i have to mention this here the day. you, you, you don't hear these press conferences in god we, god bless, thank you. internet. thank you. platforms. thank you, because if anybody is watching cable news, when you hear is rarely officials say, well, isn't as far as raw for goes already got a move, i just move north. what? almost, i don't want to use the word flippancy, but if you believe in body language or tone of voice, it's almost at the point of, of, of course we, you bomb this. of course we don't know what, what don't you understand about this? it's, it's ignorant, but mixed with our gains and then a hardiness and that changes the tenor was like, would you stop complaining well, or in the middle of the air or, you know, a light or,
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and i look at the state department officials. if you notice a smirk all the time. yeah, they don't. yeah. they, they know it's kabuki theater. you know, sam, i said in my introduction here is, um, is that, um, israel is boiling for a greater regional more of course he wants the united states to fight it for him. well, if you're in his really high official, you would think that's very logical. i mean, we're giving you these railings or getting away with genocide done. of course the americans, they get it back us in a war. i mean, if you're, it is really official, a died and will design is you. of course, you're going to believe the joe biden will be led by the nose. go ahead, sam isaac, israel used this as a win win win it from its insidious perspective. the bombs, the iranians in syria is the ryans response. they get a wire war if they don't respond, they're humiliated. if there is a regional or they stand to gain from it. if there isn't,
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then there genocide against the palestinians can be spun. is relatively minor. did they have every incentive to violate law state? they ultimately, you know, i mean, i spent a lot of time trying to focus people in the united states on his residency or weapons. and the fact that the united states government refuses to acknowledge their existence, even members of the squad, refused to acknowledge the existence of israel, nuclear weapons, which is the elephants in the room. and that's ultimately, i think what the romulans are looking at when they consider the possibility of a regional war. if it actually happens. where does that lead? you know, i mean, you have the samsung option, right? which chomsky and others have written about the ultimately the notes are pointed at moscow that isabel doesn't get its way. it can bring down everything. and i think that we have to consider that possibility. it's hard to get into the mind
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of these genocide on maniacs. but you know that they obviously want to make we cleanse the palestinians and take as much of palestine as possible. that's of it. um. but beyond that, um, is there any seriousness of you know, maybe di, extreme. yeah, well i'm mohammad though obviously what they want to do is they want to proud to down into a conflict. i don't think around is uh they've been dealing with this scenario for a very long time. they're not going to be fooled by it. but um, you know, i'm will respond probably in its own way and it's all in place as it wishes here. it will not be left on notice. but obviously, i mean from what we just heard from sam, is that the, the only way these, these way always want a regional bar so they can finish off the jet aside in gaza and the west bank mohammed. yes sir, you're absolutely correct. the iranians are very careful so that the is randy,
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resume will not have an opportunity or an excuse to change the narrative because the objective is to wipe out the god and population. the reason why these 7 aid workers were murdered was so that they could finish off the population in northern garza and have them die of starvation. but in addition to that, we also see these terrorist attacks hours ago, we had 19 or 20 a suicide bombers attacked iran from the protest on the border. and many of the people involved apparently were not iranian. so put that alongside the terror attack in moscow. the previous attack and he runs the attacks in syria when there is randy regime bombed, alas, oh, a couple of weeks ago that simon pena's sleep. the terrorist extreme is
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in a laptop that is basically nato controlled in turkey, is right behind them, they attacked the syrian government positions and it was clear that this riley use and the these terrorists were coordinating. so the united states, the wes, this really regime, all of them seem to be working together multiple. well, what's really interesting is said you just get your the whole litany of a terrorist attack. so you just mentioned in rapid succession. those are all enemies of the united states. i mean, well, you know why it's an ice is attacking israel or a pliant era presumes they don't do that. it's really interesting. always goes in one direction. mohammed, yes. and, and it is the united states that is all constantly calling other documents that they consider to be adversaries as a terrace and supporters of terrorism,
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states supporters of cares. and also we had the attack and focused on against the chinese workers and engineers. so all of that, when you put all of these attacks are taking place against countries that have problems with the united states. i wonder why, why, why chinese, why the chinese, why the iranians, why the russians, why the syrians and as you point out, why not there's right of these. why not others? who are on the other side of this, uh, this schism this, this, this conflict between the west and west and resumes and the yeah, well, right? because i go west against the rest. okay. and with that, you know, with that, so the continuation of 500 years of history were rapidly running out of timeline on you said earlier in the program that you had hoped that at some point we'd have some light at the end of the tunnel. but i don't see any lights here. how is this continuing slaughter and instability in the middle east effecting domestic politics is the americans approach elections?
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i'm seeing little by little more, more and more references by folks who have not normally been speaking about this. remember, the, the elections are very precarious. the democrats are trying to say, we've got this, everything's fine. i don't want to give you a summary of that. but i'm going to say this again, and i don't care how it happens. but this, this man who is the address, who, who was, who was absolutely this d e to the trump. he would have joined it. they hip to the democrats. he, he loved at 1st he was an and not an apologist, but an explain or to everything that israel is doing. now you have him and he has been able to, to solicit and encourage and attract a group of people who heretofore have been either in a hallmarks or just didn't want to get involved. this is more important than anything i i hate to say just tell them and then you can imagine. okay, sounds good. got one minute left. sammy said to me earlier before we started our
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recording that you've been involved in the realignment process. i am 1st in line for that i will follow you. how can this issue of genocide and god's help move along that realignment idea? absolutely. one of the projects is called the pack dot org and it basically as a case we're, we're not going to there term disenchanted. democrats disenchanted republicans to pair up and both vote against the establishment. the 2 establishment parties keep people as, as serves in their boxes by saying that the other guys work all the other guys worse. and what i'm advocating is that people tear off the to break out of that you, you can have debating partners, relatives, um, uh, you know, friends, whatever, pair up and those and say that they're going to vote for other other parties. what we have a way we, we, we need an other if we have it now more than ever. ok. a book just because of these pressing issue that gentleman we've run out of time. i want to thank my guests in
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new york, riverdale, and of course in town. and of course i want to thank my viewers for watching us here at archie. see you next time. remember the prospect, the, the 1941 with the nazis help creation ultram nationalist, the was, dosh is the claim, the independent state of croatia. shortly off the seizing power. they built the scene of us concentration camp a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia. during world war 2, use dashes used to come system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other non catholic minorities, and political opponents of the fascist regime. conditions in the san of us come
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with her renders the gods tortured to arise and the prisoners. they send them a consultation tense. so most of them died. it was incredible. just as the ukraine has become an outright terrorist states for 10 years. it has been terrorizing civilians both within its own country and beyond its borders, rushes to pick them up, phase b, as in king crane and its west and all it says, claiming that the notes are ready to turn a blind item. yeah, it's, it's posted to you soon with the pages. chief insist pumping you claims military aid is an investment in the call center. georgie,

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