have to face, oh thank you very much for having me. i been kind of davis is my 1st time actually being interviewed by asi. it's our pleasure. yeah. the most difficult challenz, in my opinion, is to continue, are going to make goals while maximizing the advantages to the indonesian people. and aside from that, we must, and you see paid the economic and financial sectors because there will be the most affected by the global on uncertainty and which may remain in an issue. the creates that believe these are that the economy can function. so therefore we are optimistic and indeed uh we one rate and then on working

with all of parties in indonesia to build the country better. yeah, of course we have the foundation that we've been already established by the previous government present. president elect double is to be under, chose china as the 1st foreign countries that he fits that, that so during this meet uh for said with chinese presidents each in being as well. what are the goals off this visit, and how do you see be the outcome of this fist? it will be for indonesia and china relations? well, as they did by prob, those will be on the minister of the fans and also the president elect during the recess. and he's meeting with president of june being the receive uh on

the line, indonesia determination to maintain strong collaboration with china. i think you said that during the dinner during the meeting and particularly in, in that's still an inside structure sectors. we know that china is one of the indonesia is most significant partners. and so i believe, uh, it's only reasonable that china has become one of the top countries, the reset. and the reset is expected to help improve by like the relation between our 2 friendly countries. yeah, i think uh that says the very significant reset by i sent them like 5 level. now if we talk about the security of the in the past, the effect by

b j considers you as interference to be the main cost off true balance in the region from your point of view. what's any shows view on this matter? well uh, 1st and foremost, as it comes to the with the free and active foreign policy, we naturally see a secure and peaceful in the past civic region. strategy environment for indonesia to try and to grow. as a result, we'd prefer cooperation with a more inclusive approach that well comes every one through dialogue, mutual respect and understanding of international law rather than or i fully and competition. so this is clearly stated in the ah, see,

i'll look for the in the past. if it's, and i've called and said real boys by indonesia, that as soon as to become the perspective of us young member states, indonesia is the world uh, 16 largest economy now and the 3rd largest democracy in the world. so our population makes up more than 40 percent of the overall i see on population. that means that indonesia is a new economy power, and it's price and size, implication for original and global economic suck chose so as a middle power, indonesia has similar power and liability to join

the bricks. and if this happens, it will undoubtedly enhance the new nation economy and also opened up several prospect's. however, the extent to which indonesia will join the brakes still a consideration for us. so both in terms of economy gains and political issues and it is prudent for us to anticipate what the future may hold. so, but i believe that the, it is styles so low from non ally and approach to both the alignment approach now is already different color from bipolar b butler. so mostly for indonesia is the 4th most populous country in the world with a robust economy. we also know that we are aiming for the golden generation in

2045 to and do you see any asia as a leader in the global cells as the world experiences the shift towards multi polarity of the global? well, it's undoubtedly that indonesia is consistently forcing the interest of the global solid in international air and not as we did in the past during the 1st independence era. so internet show was the pioneer of the asia, africa congress in 1955 and resulting in desktop steel bundle or the bundle and spirit rates later become the inspiration to the establishment of the non aligned movement in 1961. and at that time,

indonesia left the global south struggle against imperialism, colonialism, and western occupation. so indonesia was also the founding member of us yon suddenly after 1967. and now indonesia is a member of g to empty. the 3rd larger, largest democracy in the world. one of the most promising me the power countries. and what i wanted to emphasize is that indonesia is still committed to play a fire football role in creating global peace. so global piece uh, security fee. and for us padded be so hands, i'm very determined to express of the museum that indonesia and has

and will always show significantly the shape in the global south. we're going to talk about election, but not indonesian election. we are going to talk about russian presidential election. well, i think indonesia, in russia as a very long standing of relations since the so if you have time. so given indonesia and russia as a long history of this throne relation, i believe this is a very welcoming and kind of june of gesture, right? example or president put the end to accommodate delayed by see them elect level. and this also demonstrates the 2 countries intention to develop by lab through the nation under trouble is the government. so like weisner also we are way too late, but i see it in within 4 as a result in the election with land slide 63,

i would like to begin with appreciation through the federal assembly, you know, the russian federation and sample or election formation or opportunity to be part of the intonation of sort of ration of the russian presidential election. so it is indeed a reflex. and this is for the 2nd time i written this, the presidential election. the 1st time was 99. the 6 during the election and the candidate at a time was voted sales team and to gonna uh, and uh for this election i think for candidates. so the election of silver program is an important event that allows us to learn from one another and share best practices and explore democratic practices.

the 3 different methods of casting votes. yeah, which i did. i, which i learn. it's a at my manually by checking the options of develop paper and electronically by using the device provided. so these 3 ways and another one is online which can be done uh from anywhere without having to go to the following station. so this 3 uh, options have demonstrated a strong, a willingness to hinder fraud. i think. so through the use of technology indicating a more democratic improvement. and furthermore, i believe that the russian people are actually made it to do fling political inclinations as evidenced by transparent voting boxes,

which i so yeah, uh, feet that, uh, the sensors that directly counted uh ballots. and this demonstrate the majority of democracy in russia. so overall, my findings indicate that the any country can develop its own electro system of customized to its own needs. and democracy can continue to evolve in accordance with its countries. unique circumstances. that's uh, i think over all my findings. yeah. and you had a pleasure visit as well as always in russia. of course. yeah. so. so not long after the election completed, the west crashed a b b e. election to criticize the election and calling it on democracy. take an

unfair. so from your point of view, why do you think such allegations were made towards russian election? well, i cannot the command on their behalf. yeah. and am sure, unsure of the basis of such charges. however, i believe it is important that we recognize that democracy may grow in response to each country's particular needs and circumstances. and i think so far, uh, i witness the process of democracy in russia. we did turn off so many people and also with the transparency in the pulling station proof that they have breakfast, a democratic election. we also know not long after the election. there is

a recent terror attack in moscow that really shock the world, especially not long after the election and prompting several countries to ramp up there and type her is precautions. so how has indonesia responded to the news of this tragedy? well, i was in moscow almost a week chair before the effect of good and i was there to participate this in on the international division for the president selection of our presidents and election. it was, i'm very logical. it started grow and troubled by the harder for effect on civilians in public spaces. because before the election, even a night before the election, we also in the room in the big room like parts of home,

watch also the performances of, uh, the best things and then things of russian culture. so of course, on behalf of the house of representatives of 35 days of indonesia and the information people i send my profile was on the lenses to the russian. people following the hot, if it affects on the progress, uh, city hall. and which claim many lives more than $100.00. yes. and our helpful uh seems to be also extend to the insured and uh be uh be uh, families. so following the incident in moscow, in the nation government through the call, the name of the menu, sir for politics law and human rights,

has directed the fund ministries, particularly security forces to boost domestic violence, which i believe is the nature of the action. but most importantly, i believe in donations worse or price and sudden to learn about the fact we all hope that the federal risk responsible for such a genius effect to be arrested quickly. and it's been, i've asked it, i think by the or 30 threes and uh, it'd be stopped. so because of course, uh this, this, uh, really disturbing and its a tragedy most co is also looking into as it ends off for in special services taking part in this attack. so, do you think this period is justified? well, i promised that the russian should probably before see is real swiftly tougher,

the preferred traitors of these areas scaling no matter where they come from. and whoever is responsible must be persist with it. yeah. and also is beside behind, this is a fact. so i believe a spill in under investigation. so now we will back talking about the media and russia relationship. there are a lot of people who shared the opinion that the relationship that both countries have right now is solely because the relationship that has built during soviet indonesian era to what extent do you agree on this opinion? well indeed, i think, uh, we cannot deny their historic go through that by letter relationship between

indonesia and russia of the game during the soviet union era and space civically. in 1945. since the beginning of our independence and the time the soviet union was one of the congress that, well come, indonesia, independence, and id, condemn all types of colonialism. and uh, he goes fighting for indonesian independence side support and uh, a, from the soviet union. at the united nation u. n, the sophia union regularly highlighted the uh, the issue of indonesia and the west thing that the u. n. stopped that you're gonna need 3 aggression and for the international community to recognize indonesia

as an independent country. so i think this is a static effect on a historic, the acceptable for the foundation of our, uh, long lasting relation between the 2 countries. so along with the global political plans, there have been ups and downs in relation between indonesia and russia. but i believe there we will continue to assign them in the near future and also in the future. if we are taking back to these days, what modern day projects between the 2 countries that play an important role in strengthening the cooperation and in your point of view, how can we escalate that relationship? well uh indonesia and i shall go. abrasion has been wired successful in variety or feels by the friends and location corporation stand out. yeah,

i hope that's corp between the 2 feels we'll continue to grow in the future. however, i believe it is also interesting, those by the, the prospect of corporation in the field of renewable energy, for example. and they're not, they've energy and also particularly nuclear and energy, interesting point that you need show, have to open up towards russia. yeah. now, um, there's this study released by envelope, an enter nation company that monitor social networks. and the study found that the majority of indonesian users expressed support for the russian special military or pre should also citing a negative attitudes toward nieto and the u. s. so what's your take on this study, and why do you think in a nation's half this kind of opinion?

i do believe that indonesian citizens are knowledgeable about the issue and above the thing. objectively. the study by the big data analytics f lawyer has shown a clear public opinion on the ground. however, i have to clarify that the finding uh does not. of the prison dispense of indonesian authority innovation, consistently waste is the last on democracy will be allowed to release them and dialogue to and conflict. and those fairly these and of course, we really continue to critically digest many various information or issues, including global data piece in your brain and gaza and many other

places in the context of the russia, ukraine conflict and release as clearly stated that we consistently support the perfection of stating the integrity and software. nancy. so yeah, diplomacy and dialogue. so the at the forefront to find sustainable solutions. so i believe still the end of war. uh, should be, i mean, uh at the end, you know, diplomacy and negotiation. so it'd be there. so we are parole to this diplomacy and negotiation at the end to find a more sustainable and permanent solution about this. finally, i am part of the ip you task force in the fall them into the union task force on russia,

ukraine conflict. and we pushed to both parties from russian solomon on this space represented by their federal funds to and also by duma. and also the ukrainian development actually we try to find a more sustainable peaceful solution through dialogue. i think these i p with as far as the only platform that still exist, it can be a platform for engagement from both parties. so i think in lanesha want us to have a piece in there and they told me because it also affects uh for security. the energy stipulate the know cleo safety, indonesia as consistently for us the need to respect the un charter

and international law including what respect in $3030.00 of the integrity and suffering fee. however, we also committed to multilateral exams and diplomacy, the in brunswick and hostilities. so hands, i do believe that you need to lab, throw sanctions to word russia are not only in a factor and what was the other way around, but also unable to find a clear path for sustainable peace. so secondly, i would assert that indonesia also firmly complies with the fundamental principle of independence, an active part in policy which had been a problem. and they uh,

since 1948. so it means that indonesia, outside of the policy cannot be fully or partially align with any countries, any blocks or, and the world power in this respect indonesia as maintain possibly safe relations read last year since it is off yet, iraq. so likewise, indonesia also has become a good friend of ukraine since their independence in 1991. so our friendship has deeply repeated our foreign policy history. actually see that last year the nation for administer called for reform of the you and the security consul emphasizing the need for a multilateral system. so what do you make of the debate surrounding this issue? the security, consult efficiency? yes, of course. the issue of the advocacy and every sion see of the un security console

has become our close of pension. we are all right uh supporters of the u. n. system and we put the strong trust in the powder and we'll fill out the role of the system. however, we believe that the u. n is included, the concept of the form is extremely needed to avoid further part of fatherlessness with the gods through the peace that goes situation such as in guys uh, i think uh to create peace in palestine. so referrals, serious steps need to be taken immediately. first, oh congress my us, you live and have their same interest to create sustainable peace in gaza and palestine as a whole by working together,

taking complete actions and mobilizing resources to lead out all these adversity. and 2nd, western countries must stop there, douglas, find it, douglas, send the perspectives, the center view and he for political attitude towards palestine and completely still providing policy. so late the end, the front of make supports israel authority. so then we must also raise you negotiations to create an independent palestinian state and upset by the spine to become a full member of the united nations. and in this case, indonesia will of course, continue to provide policy goes support model support for police speed in independence and the security of the palestinian people. so a new nation actually continue to gather support for palestinian peace

through various forums including have development to the level. so in these last 2 ip assembly sessions, for example, we have always mobilize this brian of the global bi limon by for bushing and emergency item 2. and is that i was attacked on guys to stop the war and also the violation of human rights and gaza. i initiated through this last time in one that and on rolla last october. and then uh, recently in jeanette uh, also uh with south african solomon and also had a little problem in the the

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