the economic and financial sectors because they will be the most affected by the global on uncertainty and which may remain in an issue. the creates that believe these are that the economy can function. so therefore, um we are optimistic and indeed uh we one rate and then on working with all of parties in indonesia to build the country better. yeah, of course with the foundation that it's been already established by the previous government present, president elect double is to be under, chose china as the 1st foreign countries that he fits that. so during this meet fits that with

chinese presidents each in being as well. what are the goals off this visit, and how do you see be the outcome of this fits? it will be for indonesia and china relations. well, as stated by the problems will be on the minister of the fans and also the president elect during the recess and he's meeting with president of june being the receive uh on the line, indonesia determination to maintain strong collaboration with china. i think you said that during the dinner during the main thing and particularly in industrial and and so last lecture sectors, we know that china is one of the indonesia is most significant partners. and so i believe uh, it's only reasonable that china has become one of the top countries,

the resist. yeah. and the research is expected to help improve violet. the relation between our 2 friendly countries. yeah. i think uh that says the very significant uh reset by accidentally like 5 level. now if we talk about the security of the indo pass effect by b, j considers you as interference to be the main cost off true balance in the region from your point of view. what's in the shows view on this matter? well, uh, 1st and foremost, as a country with the free and active foreign policy, we naturally see a secure and peaceful in the past civic region,

stipends, a care environment for indonesia to 5 and the grow. as a result, we prefer cooperation with a more inclusive approach that uh well comes every one through dialogue, mutual respect and understanding of international law rather than or i fully and competition. so this is clearly stated in the r c. i would look for the in the past if it and i've called and said real boys by indonesia, that as soon as to become the perspective of us young member states, indonesia is the world uh, 16 largest economy now and the 3rd largest democracy in the world. so our population makes up more than 40 percent of the

overall i see on population. that means that indonesia is a new, a phone on make power. and its presence has implication for original and global economic suck chose so as a middle power. indonesia has similar power and liability to join the brakes. and if this happens, it will undoubtedly enhance the new nation economy and also open up several prospect. however, the extent to which indonesia will join the break still of consideration for us. so both in terms of economic gains and political issues,

and it is prudent for us to anticipate what the future may hold. so, but i believe that the it is style so low from non ally and approach to both the alignment approach now is already different color from bipolar b. paula, so mostly for indonesia is the forest most populous country in the world with a robust economy. we also know that we are aiming for the golden generation in 2045 to and do you see any here as a leader in the global south as the world experiences the shift towards multi polarity of the global? well, it's undoubtedly that indonesia is consistently forcing the interest of the global south in international air and not as we did in the past

during the 1st independence era. so internet show was the pioneer of the asia, africa congress in 1955 and resulting in desktop steel bundle or the bundle and spirit rates later become the inspiration to the establishment of the non aligned movement in 1961. and at that time, indonesia led the global south struggle against imperialism, colonialism, and western occupation. so indonesia was also the founding member of icy on. shortly after 1967. and now indonesia is a member of g to empty. the 3rd larger, largest democracy in the world. one of the most promising me the

power countries. and what i wanted to emphasize is that indonesia is still committed to play a fire football role in creating global peace. so the piece of security and prosperity. so hands, i'm very determined to express of the museum that indonesia and has a real, always show significantly the shape in the global south. we're going to talk about election, but not in an asian election. we are going to talk about russian presidential election. well, i think indonesia, in russia as a ready, long standing are relations since the so if you have time. so given indonesia, in russia as a long history of this problem relation. i believe this is

a very well come in and cottage in uh get you right example or president put the in the delay. i see them like yeah, but i will. and this also demonstrates the 2 countries i intention to develop my lead through the nation under propose a government. so like weisner also we are way too late, but i sit in within 4 is are these out in the election with land slide $63.00. i would like to begin with appreciation through the federal assembly of the russian federation and sent the election formation for opportunity to be part of the intonation of separation of the russian president until election. so it is indeed a reflex and this is for the 2nd time i written this on the presidential election.

the 1st time was 99. the 6 during the election. and the candidate at a time was brought to the sales team and to gonna, uh, and uh for this election i think for candidates. so the election of silver program is an important event that allows us to learn from one another and share best practices and explore democratic practices. the 3 different methods of casting votes. yeah, which i did now. i which i learn. it's a at my manually by checking the options of develop paper and electronically by using the device provided. so these 3 ways and another one is online which can be done uh from anywhere without having to go to the holding station. so this 3 uh,

options have demonstrated a strong, a willingness to hinder fraud. i think. so through the use of technology indicating a more democratic improvement. and furthermore, i believe that the russian people are actually made it to do fling political inclinations as evidenced by transparent voting boxes, which i saw. yeah. uh, freighted uh, the sensors that directly counted uh ballots. and this demonstrate the majority of democracy in russia. so overall, my findings indicate that the any country can develop its own electro system of customized to its own needs. and democracy can

continue to evolve in accordance with its countries. unique circumstances. that's uh, i think over all my findings. yeah. and you had a pleasure visit as well as always in russia. of course. yeah. so. so not long after the election completed, the west crashed a b b e. election to criticize the election and calling it on democracy. take an unfair. so from your point of view, why do you think such allegations were made towards russian election? well, i cannot the command on their behalf. yeah. and am sure, unsure of the basis of such charges. however, i believe it is important that we recognize that democracy may grow

in response to each country's particular needs and circumstances. and i think so far, uh, i witness the process of democracy in russia. we did turn off so many people and also with the transparency in the pulling station proof that they have breakfast, a democratic election. we also know not long after the election. there's a recent terror attack in moscow that really shock the world, especially not long after the election and prompting several countries to ramp up there and type her is precautions. so how has in a nation i responded to the news of this tragedy? well, i was in moscow almost a week chair before the effect of good and i was there

to participate this, you know, the entire nation observation for the president selection of our presidents of election. so it was i'm very logically startled and troubled by the harder for effect on civilians in public spaces. because before the election, even a night before the election, we also in the room in the big room like, uh, parts of home to watch all sort of performances of, uh, the best of singing and dancing. so russian culture. so of course, on behalf of the house of representatives of 35 bits of indonesia and the information people, i send my profile of on the lenses to the russian people following the how does it affects on the progress uh,

city hall. and which claim many lives more than $100.00. yes. and our hotels seem to be also extend to the insured and uh be uh be uh, families. so following the incident in moscow in the nation government through the call, the main thing then you serve on politics law and human rights. as directed, relevant of ministries, particularly security forces to boost domestic vigilance, which i believe is a natural reaction. but most importantly, i believe in donations worse or price and said than to learn about the fact we all hope that the salaries responsible for such a genius effect to be arrested quickly. and it's been, i've asked it,

i think by the or $30.00 fees and uh, it'd be stopped. so because of course, uh this, this, uh, really disturbing and its a tragedy most co is also looking into as it ends off for in special services taking part in this attack. so, do you think this period is justified? well, i promised that the russian should probably before seize real swiftly and cover the preferred traitors of these areas. scaling no matter where they come from and whoever is the responsible must be for stick with it. yeah. and also is beside behind, this is a fact. so i believe a spill in under an investigation. so now we will back talking about the media and rush our relationship. there are

a lot of people who shared the opinion that the relationship that both countries have right now is solely because the relationship that has built during soviet indonesian era to what extent do you agree on this opinion? well indeed i think uh, we cannot deny the historical throughs that by letter nation. so between indonesia and russia, be game during the soviet union era. and it's basically in 1945. yeah. since the beginning of our independence and at the time, the associate union was one of the countries that, well come indonesia, independence, and a condemn. all types of colonialism and uh,

fee goes fighting for indonesian independence side support and uh, a, from the soviet union. at the united nation u. n. the soviet union regularly highlighted of the issue of indonesia and the west thing that the u. n. stop that you relate to the aggression and for the international community to recognize indonesia as an independent hunting. so i think this is a static effect on a historical capital for the foundation of our, uh, long lasting relation between the 2 countries. so along with the global political brands, there have been ups and downs in relation between indonesia and russia. but i believe that we will continue to assign them in the near future and also in the

future if we are taking back to these days, what modern day projects between the 2 countries that play an important role in strengthening the cooperation and in your point of view, how can we escalate that relationship? well uh indonesia and i shall go. abrasion has been wired successful in variety, or fails, but the friends and, and location corporation staying out. yeah. i hope that the corporation between the 2 feels will continue to grow in the future. however, i believe it is also interesting, those by the, the prospect of corporation in the field of renewable energy, for example, and alternative energy. and also particularly the clear and energy interesting point that even the show have to open up towards russia. yeah. now,

um, there's this study released by envelope, an innovation company that monitor social networks. and the study found that the majority of indonesian users expressed support for the russian special military or pre should also citing and negative attitudes toward nato and the u. s. so what's your take on this study, and why do you think in a nation's half this kind of opinion? i do believe that indonesian citizens are knowledgeable about the issue above the thing. objectively the side, the by the big data analytics f, a lawyer has shown a clear public opinion on the ground. however, i have to clarify that the finding uh does not of the prison

dispense of indonesian authority, innovation up and says that lee waste is the last on democracy, was the latter elisa and dialogue to and conflict. and those fairly these and of course we really continue to critically digest many uh, various information or issues, including little bit of that a piece in your brain and gaza and many other places in the context of the russia ukraine conflict introduce as clearly stated that we consistently support the perfection of stating the integrity and software. nancy. so yeah. diplomacy and dialogue. so the yeah. forefront to find sustainable uh, solutions. so i believe still the end of war. uh. so it'd be, i mean,

uh at the end you know, diplomacy and negotiation. so it'd be there. so we are parole to this diplomacy and negotiation at the end to find a more sustainable and permanent solution about this. finally, i am part of the ip you task force in the fall them into the union task force on russia. you bring fund to click and we push it to both 5 piece from russian solomon uh, on this case, any present. they buy their federal funds to and also by duma and also the ukranian parliament. actually we try to find a more sustainable peaceful solution through dialogue.

i think this is with as far as the only platform that still exist, it can be a platform for engagement from both parties. so i think in an issue, i want us to have a piece in the territory because it also affects uh for security the end of the city b. nope, leo safety. indonesia has consistently force the need to respect the un charter and international law. instead of being what respect in 3030 of the integrity and suffering p. however, we are also committed to multilateral exams. and diplomacy do and conflict and hostilities. so hands, i do believe that you need a lab throw sanctions to word russia are not only in

a factor and what was the other way around, but also unable to find a clear path for sustainable peace. so secondly, i would assert that indonesia also formerly complies with the fundamental principle of independence and active part in policy, which had been a problem. and they uh, since 1948. so it means that indonesia, i was wondering, policy cannot be fully or partially align with any countries, any blocks or in the world power. in this respect, indonesia, as maintain possible safe relations with russia since it is off yet era. so likewise, indonesia also has become a good friend of your brain since their independence in 1991. so our friendship has

deeply rooted in our foreign policy history. actually see that last year the nation for administer called for reform of the you and the security consul emphasizing the need for a multi lateral system. so what do you make of the debate surrounding this issue? the security, consult efficiency? yes, of course. the issue of uh, advocacy and efficiency of the you and security console has become our close of pension. we are all right uh, supporters of the u. n. system. and we put this from trust in the powder and mostly like the role of the system. however, we believe that the u. n. a security concept of the form is extremely needed to avoid further follow fatherless is with you guys through the police.

it goes situation. suggesting guys, uh, i think uh to create peace in palestine. so for those serious steps, need to be taken immediately 1st. oh congress my us, you live and have their same interest to create sustainable peace in gaza and palestine as a whole by working together taking complete actions and mobilizing resources to lead out of this adversity. and 2nd, western countries must stop there, douglas found it. uh that was time. the perspectives douglas, i'm as you and he oh, perfect. so attitude towards palestine and completely stopped providing probably be so late the and the front of make supports israel or authority. so then we must

also raise you negotiations to create an independent palestinian state and upset palestine to become a full member of the united nations. and in this case, indonesia will of course, continue to provide politico support model support for police speed in independence . and the security of the policy and people so in the nation actually continue to gather support for palestinian peace through various forms including have the following 3 levels. so in these last 2 i view assembly sessions with example. we have always mobilize this thing of the global vitamin by for bushing and emergency item 2 and is that i also have fact on guys to stop the war and also the violation of human rights

and guys i initiated through this last time in one that and on rolla, last october, and then uh, recently in jeanette also uh with south african solomon and also out of the pallet and the, the water is part of the is it that the employee would posted isn't the defense you of us entered in the word or is it something deeper, more complex might be present. let's stop without collisions. let's go out of

as a what else? seemed wrong. just don't you have to see the house and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the 1st time in history, and meantime country's culture has been cancelled them even more than welcome to cancel the culture they need to ask the associate in my life so little in the front here. just me sitting the one who puts the glue. the phrase now particularly refers

to counseling russian culture. and yet the worst it could be up to that i get 20 miles folks to chill out is that the most of the some rich, the one them eat, the moist blood rushes created over the past 1500 years. there's no questions, partially condemned, reviled and reject it to sit alone and use that to put somebody at the middle of panel. there's a lot, i don't know because i don't know. she doesn't have to use it a little, some of the list. joining total condemnation grows daily and now including those to instigate to ca, skate and assess the kind of age that, that i need to. yeah. or less, but yeah, she utilized the things that were done with you. i'm gonna need you to

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