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galaxy only means that it's impossible to understand this has not existed either in the history of what's america or in the world to break into the embassy violating the vienna convention. this is the territory a foreign state. it's like and bring it in a country and contain a politic correction, chief violating the caracas conventions, even an institution providing the site for door behave like an outcast on the global scale. let americans condemnation and outreach was through natalie, and it's hard to figure out where they want to go with this because they chose to pass with no returns. ecuador has violated all the principles of civility. we're facing barbers. the law of ecuador was violated. it was absolutely a crime by political rectitude, can not be forcibly detained a state in the criminal code. the president ecuador, daniel, and the boss violated the constitution of the republic. you violated the correct cause conventions. you violated the vienna convention. you may be called to account by the inter american commission on human rights to make the call to account by the international criminal court in the head. and he thinks that nothing will happen when he does not understand that he is in different situation at the moment when,
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who doesn't understand where he's got himself. and the easiest thing for the ball was to provide a security guarantee. this is nonsense, it's mind box. i hope he gets involved in the problem and makes it worse when it was easiest to say that she disagreed with mexico with respect to the international improvement in accordance with the caracas convention that will provide a security guarantee receipts, obtaining that bullied corrected sheet. you'll probably face the consequences and leave the country on the brink of more. because technically, this is a reason for warranty. this is an invasion or foreign country. what do say with our to international up next for all the parts of the, [000:00:00;00]
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the colon, welcome to wells, a part of the mark twain famously a remark that history and doesn't repeat a sound, but it also arrives. and it's not the circumstances or the actors of any particular conflict that the get 3 constellation, but the rather the spirit of the problem with south state resolved parts of it. so you are pan continent is once again stricken with better divisions and kinetic warfare. does history offer any ideas point moving forward to discuss that? i'm now enjoyed by luke bush plaza, a left wing, slovaks, politician and deputy speaker on the slumber. i can parliament mister bloss. uh, it's a great honor, great pleasure to talk to you. thank you very much. for your time, thank you very much for the invitation. not mr. boss. us la k is
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a relatively small country, but it's also been a pretty powerful voice. again, the mainstream consensus that is for now, or at least in favor, often times to find the war with russia. and you've been a quite a strong optis within that voice. why did your take this sounds that you took on the conflict in the ukraine on this thing? your position has any impacts whatsoever in the face of the ears, pro war unit to 1st of all of the work here, he's very faith based organization and really respect to the sacrifice. so for us on rational nations in deliberating, causing the 2nd of all the girlfriend faces themselves, we are very thankful and grateful to russia. and this is something we should be heavy, not our hearts. i mean us lubbock, nation, of course. so you can see that the slope like nation is how divide it. there is a hobby organization on which is very much influenced by the liberal prob, around us. and we can, bro, but i'm dying only. so i'm, and you know,
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media in zeros. and then the, the, the 2nd part of the population. fortunately, now we have the majority and be wanting to elections. i mean, the, brian, any certainly robust feet. so, and we want to be, so we've been to have a piece. we don't want to send the bi funds to new grain. we don't want to have the expansion of nato because we see this as a cost of these warning ukraine. so this is, our response is very similar, right for the policy. and of course, quite it'd be our flights we designed by of all of us. and bach knows about the v b being the freedom of speech and the sort of idea of nations. so i hope that we can still come from you in our peaceful bodies. now i are very much like the way you frame based warren, one of your articles, your road that it's wrong that to slavic nations are it's war that american arms companies are making money from it. and it's hard to disagree with that. it's definitely wrong, but it's also the reality and to some extent, it's
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a paradox that go reality because on the one hand, 4 or 5 years ago, i wouldn't be able to imagine something like this happening in the up. if we go further back down into history, it's almost seems kind of possible. it doesn't seem so unlikely after all. and i wonder how do you see this concept proceed as an inexplicable or do you think quite the contrary, that it was to some extent predictable that it would have happened? i'm sure this is another conflict between the ukrainian nation and the russian nation. is the conflict, especially between american and the russia and they're kind of rush i so it's of course, the west against the russian federation. everybody's skin cities, because if you didn't, would be golfing between ukraine and russia. ukraine wouldn't be lost in a few weeks. we don't want this conflicts which can disclose to the ground floor. i think only the people without any common sense,
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then continue to escalate to these calls me that that's why we are designing our and the return and the you will be in boxes because we are in the return of because we are and you will be a resource for bees, the ones who have good dialogue and good relations on the beast, on the log on to solve on the west, all the, all the arts. so i don't think that uh our, our positions are but gays, to you are being, you know, these are the ways of the common sense. either you'll be in union and they've got to read hungary, for example. but also you have to know to a country like all 3 of you know who you reach out. he's not sending the weapons us as v or not. so i don't think that this is something unpredictable. and i hope that the, the people have ukraine, either russians either or ukrainians, lots of going to die forever by hold the diesel armies. these can be here in few months,
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in order to establish conditions for lasting peace may also need to understand the dynamics, the only difference dynamics of this war, not just the current or political layer, but you know what, what is underneath them. as you have already alluded, uh, there is the memory of the 2nd world war. so my kids self suffered greatly from fascism. i. you had your own holocaust at that time, your own very strong anti natural resistance movement. and i wonder how much is that a factor in it, not just a public pull it takes today, but in how more than the way people seal and relate both to the current politics and to russian. the west. yes, we see in the way i see that there is a wave of racist. there was a phobia, very similar to the thirty's and forty's in the european history, and it was the time of fascism. amazing, some. that's why we are very focused with this trans. you cut off blame the russian
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nation as it is before the seeing the world. this is something which is opposite what we faced. it's that's y v. a. remember a how it was in the 2nd of all the rolled and we even if you man, but are both boundaries task from you brian of a doing the in the east. in slovakia i've never killing the people that are the rubber roberts of the village in slovakia. um probably uh everybody in the role can remember a void in my sucker. and so want to had received as a binder. our associate each are so great the to in the ukraine. we kind of being silent. i'm the can i actually ask you about that because the west often accuse us the russia of exploiting the memory and the trauma of world war 2 for it's on a so retiring aims while at the same time being absolutely a believe is to the effect. so bad, i mean you're saying that this will back and people remember the corners of the war . but for some reason the west doesn't remember. and it's very insensitive to say
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the least about the forming alliances with far right. the new a fascist worth is in ukraine and elsewhere. how do you explain it is an ignorance as a deluxe of historical map memories, or perhaps the marriage of convenience or even a conscious ideological on lines? it is the book really is a simple question. it's the dog, far less of thinking in this barrier. for example, in my country in slovakia, when you say the face, use the establishment during the 2nd world war because we had to be so facing the corporation by germany. you'll be able to say that this is something those you will be by the cutest by the bodies of course, because you are supporting faces. by the way, you understanding boundaries that seem you probably all you are but the ordering dirty. are there better days in your grade? you're here all the media and will deliver all this because you are defended, you,
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bright, and this is people crazy about. i can say you from history that the, when the member on each side was the best and you will be in countries in the 2nd of all the world. you can see that here in germany was nancy germany. he thought he was specially, it's either it's about jim, hold on another line then was of him be able to know compared to being in a few days that had frauds, you know, a few weeks, 3 east bay sandy to the weapons, to mass of germany and so on, so you can continue it, but in this way and you see that the sacrifice overhead and the, the sacrifice overestimation of bill arms, nation and human to ukraine. nation was so high, so high for me. and so i know millions of people and, you know, invest them countries, it was like this. so that's why it's a different memory for 2nd world war because respect is a nice little x as a, as the fastest nation. the really remember this. now why don't we say fascism, you know, they said worst provoke. so a lot of emotional reaction, it has
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a lot of political connotations. but what's underneath it is actually, you know, a belief system that presupposes that certain people are above other people. what's allowed to you is not allowed to me. you're allowed to suffer, and i'm allowed to teach you how to sort of know to be a barbarian. and this is not just a historical moment. i mean, it's more polish these days, but the west still, you know, cleans, that's right. to be um, you know, uh, the shining beacon of a wisdom for all the nations. what could be done in practical terms with this kind of ideology? because uh sure it's not always expressed that expresses itself as fascism but it's still very much problem. don't the global stage on many of the wars we have, you know, they won't have seen over the past couple of decades. ultimately, it could be, you know, brought down to that there in principle that's we as a nation,
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know what's best for you and we are going to invade and kill and enter use all other means to make sure that all well prevails over yours. well, there is a kind of superiority complex in the west and be so liberal or no new brutal idle a g reflects this is a kind of tiny, tardy on the, the g, or thought all utilities because it hasn't the respect to the diversity of the world. doesn't respect the culture, this doesn't respect other nations. a dorothy because we're all in the way to tell you, okay, you have, for example, ultimate star. truly, you have the most in countries who have the policy set culture by new coupled heavy use because you need to be a very, very human rights to freedom s v. understand it in the past, you will need to have the same democrats, the s v and so, so it's a kind of a mental cooling the, all these things. and this is something to be the need to read for you is because we need to be need to respect all the counselors, all the nations into all i told say to the chinese that you want to have the
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homosexual marriages. because in brussels to be one, but they have to almost like so many just because it's kind of hard and it goes and is why i really believe and a freedom. i really, really believe in diversity ends or respect to the other nations. i don't need to be a final for us. i don't think the best thing of china, our final, some of your ideas are that respect their culture. and this is something we to many people in the best stop to respect. this is a very, a big sailor of the best of civilization. but i think the roots are for these content in the history of the but now um, going back, just like in its current position. it's a landlocked country, bordered by poland to the north ukraine, to the east, hungary, to the south, and austria to the west. they also have a tablet, a check republic on the northwest, easily hostilities for whatever reason, spelled beyond the ukrainian horse theatre into europe. you may find yourself right in the midst of it. do you think you're
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a current neighbor membership and nature will protect here because i'm in the you express a very it was sympathetic a very to hearing the very a ration l stands. but if worst comes to worst will in the secure. um, you know, a good position for yourself. well, our national interest is to avoid the war of any kind. this is for sure. that's why we are well saying that we need to stop the war on the train. then you need to have the dialogue with russia in the data go to relations, meet the russian federation. of course, we are the father of the european union and the nato, but we already agreed to go to the wars of nato. for example, in yuba, slighty us or in libya, this why the previous goals and vc also the causes of the warranty ukraine in these expansion of nato. this is for sure, because the seen us from russia was very clear read on going to head to you brian, in the adults tend to and they don't want it to expand. and the full address i'll
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be coming from the borders of united states. it was due on the stage and don't realize we were coming to the board as the director. so this is for sure you went to that would be from the opinions in, for example, and orange, and about me because there is a very right to being the checking government denial. but still the brought up a little slow back in the checks and nations. i mean, the normal people is still there. we have a very was go next ones to be the hungry. we are in the many, many positions so, so you know, to austria, which is now to accomplish. so i don't think that exceptional support by the board and in the rush. i mean it's, we don't the story. i think that these different started by the nazis lives turned about makes slovakia hungry. all 3. ok then the slope. any uh then the great shot. so it'd be a lot of our, the very peaceful agents in the us. and so i will, the function is gonna be valuable. okay. well, uh for the time being and mr. possibly have to take a very short break, but we will be back to the discussion in just
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a few moments. stay tuned. the or the,
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[000:00:00;00] the welcome back towards the portsmouth, new boss, blah blah, a left wing, small buck, politician and the purchase speaker. on the so like in parliament, mr. blossom before the break, he said that uh some i care as well as hungry as well as auster of peaceful nations . and i think that's true, but you're still part of a too large blocks that are quite a nickel to my country at this point of time. and this is a major security dilemma for russia at the moment because most for a 2nd, he doesn't want to explore, expand this conflict to europe. but if you're a pin countries, keep the ruling prolonging funding and by supplying the weapons to your grant. and i know that slow market, for example, doesn't do that, but your, you know, the countries that are associated with doing that,
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france and germany some others. and they're doing that's without any consequences to themselves, believing that they can defeat the russia from a safe distance without any harm to them. and any military commander would tell you that this assumption needs to be shot, or they, in order to bring all the ward dynamics and all the participants into they open. do you think leaders in here of understand how dangerous has been can that they are choosing to play for now? and how do you feel about it that you may be in the thick of a, of all the kinetic fighting through no fault of your own. and so no desire for your own as well. yes, you are true that the leaders into european union today are very many times and this kind of communities and should be refused. but also we can see the new wave off when you thinking, of course, it's not in every country and they'll tell you in every government, but you will see the funded you from ukraine. i would say you'd like this in the
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european union. and for example, in germany, you have to box the f b which is already successful into both. so you have to box your room, you see select banding fronts, which is very successful, or mr. ok, my showing on the left was waiting for it to go through this or be pretty. all the stuff stands is off of western leaders. and that will be the elections in june, in the european union on to the european parliament and may be the parties of the politicians was very critical to these of the expansion of nato, to these war and ukraine. and to this, uh, maybe the organization of you, the european policies, i think this, this box, these can be very successful and these can change the positions all for you or be leaders. and i hope that this will be the truth. now you mentioned some shifts and european public opinion, but there, there's also been a major shift in the ukranian strategy. ukraine is now openly and approving off
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and sometimes of resorting to terrorist tactics. and for now, these tactics are a, primarily at the russia and the russian citizens, but they know from history that, uh, fundamental is terrorist, almost always turn against that own pain masters. we know that's happened with al tie. then the americans that happened to some extent with the chance in europe. do you think it's possible with the ukrainians? do you think they can, at one point become a security threat, not just for russia, but for the european union to well terrorism. these are the colon and i me and this is something we do, we need to really stress the terms is that i don't most go we to started. well, i asked them to be of close to the fuse it and we need to each other of the come on come and lance, the restaurants to be chinese, to beat everybody in the world again, stale reason and when i see that so sometimes you know, when the ukrainians, for example, of bomb, the 3 man, the bridge. it was a terrorist attack. and the,
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you know, as it was like, oh, i love the west the well think like this is ok if this is most ok. and i hope that us as it is with the mail, matthews and spacious, i mean you train the, the army as if they seen mixed areas in being uh, in kind of any, any caught up the was we need to be very basic. uh, very, pretty simple. and sometimes i see a lot of people crazy in the west is why am i very free to go through? we've bought the 2 days that it'd be nice to find stories and in every corner of the world. and maybe when you got to think about this, um uh, that will start so all the thinking may need to speak about the does that most across the of by these roads now. and when we see that the european leaders are very, very hesitating to come down, but he's ro, assets, the massacre as even some of the people he knew about the nation. so according to this, so these must go some jo side and southern maybe see the, the european or american i need those like say, oh, it's the,
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the rise of these roads to, to the children i need to delta. and then they say is most arrives to overall shop to defend their interests. as regards the expansion of nato, your tribes, this is again, double stand off people policy and we need to refuse it. you mentioned the terrorist attack on concert goers. bowers outside moscow which claimed, at this point of time, 144 lives with another 551 people injure them. so here in russia speculated them this attack was and not so much at ordinary people or social stability in the russian by the president and put in for personal the whole base prior to that had secure the now the presidential term and who believes strongly a national security, this is one of the reasons here, authorize the military operation and your plan, but clearly he like no other late or can guarantee security 100 percent. what do you think about and do you think they hate for us to put on
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a strong and have to justify in some enlightened circles, farming many innocent people to deliver a blow to him personally? well, we need to wait for the investigation. i don't want to make any statements which are not the, you know, so i'm not asking you about the, there's concrete the time, but i'm asking whether do you think be paid for it for puts in would, may lead some people to, you know, approve of decisions they otherwise would know the approval of yes, there is a kind of fun updates on every side. and this is somebody dangerous as why we, we are calling for peace because every war can create these kinds of hates. we didn't fund, i think this moves down the limits, but still i am, uh, i want to stress the other problem because when we are talking about this done resuming, most go outside the most golf. uh, you see the problem of, uh, i would say is lemme terrorism, which is very concrete also in your opinion. yeah. and uh,
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do you have the big problem with migration in slow but the, i swelled the want to stop this mostly migration because it is very dangerous. if this i'm a fan, it takes from some worse than countries are coming to our, our countries and doing the best things. and that's why we are trying to say to you being leaders. let's think more money and give it to the so of both extra on the border of the to be before it is a migration, but the giving the ukrainians, those those of a $1000000.00 a sofa of money off of yours, but not on the so protection of border, not all these fight against the school. a know mediation, this is a big news that excuse me, very sweet stuff for you. you know, that's why i think that the beginning to concentrate on the issues of migration on the issues of growth, ation of our people on the issues of social rights, of other people and the leading stunned us. but we, i mean i, you will be leaders. i believe it's the, the, it came up,
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they want to only how do you claim and they want to only help the majority companies and these meetings are a complex and this is a very, very, very, very big mistake. not now, mr. boss, or you just mentioned a couple of issues that i usually make up, the so called pay patriotic agenda. you know, um, minding leaving standards, being preoccupied with domestic issues, wanting to preserve some semblance of social stability and dressing, migration, conscientiously and consciously. you know, siding is a fax on the, you know, indigenous societies and making sure that you actually care about social harmony that you do then is smart and diligence way. um, um you know, leaders who pursue these kind of politics are very easily handled by the way also care about national security. that these kind of leaders are very easily labeled as a ideal logs, as demagogues as to tell a terry. and i'm put in is one example, but obviously the prime minister of your own country,
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a role birth fits the also gets a fair share of those accusations just as he has the gary and con counterpart to victor, oregon. and i wonder, what are you seeing benefits from propagating this association between authentic patriotism and patriotism that doesn't want to take other countries resources but just wants to define its own interest can get some benefit from you know, presenting it in such a not just uh you know darn, but uh, ultimately very harmful and very dangerous way. well, i would say that these are very funny. these things show which is very popular in the west and the due today as you are saying on one side the way it is nowhere on global as ours. oh, believe in the west and hanging morning and on the other side and everybody else. if you had 5 by 2, i think um for his i'm signed to mind. see if you have a last thing or i'm p. now the products, uh ceilings and the ideas you are the strictest. you are to tell me,
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tell you it is a said you are even visual ed. they are using the stone in slovakia and you are meant you are going to remind you to have any right. so you, you don't have your thoughts. you just need to follow these mail. people are doable as i do about i think the agenda piece is very generous. this. that's the target is of course different book on the tardy and no narrative as it was before. but we're using the don't liberal faces because of course the, the runs in my face is i'm done before i go with this. but today, today's nowadays we're all or know even off our plane, your life to let specialist. they don't respect other than the other obedience they will do, basic, you know, criminalized people for the premiums. these were something is the key of the usual 3 years ago on the these 3 years where we had the rights being known him for all document. even me as a person, as a body shop was persecute even by the police. so therefore,
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he's because i respect the single awful red army. it's a red star, really siegel and the member. and i will spare security by dick's trim east. i will see them persecute these as extremities because i enrolled the dog, the meal they both take about up or i have low, broad, the so i think the book about the name and they say all this is extremities. you just need to have it. you're going to just have to be doing it. you just need to pay the rest of everybody. because baseball, you want to remember the times that he story. when there was only one to l, it was fake. she's a rock. when i go he said this is only one truth and i think that you know, your, which is based on diversity, the freedom of speech and beauty for renaissance and beautiful enlightenment 30th southerly. we are in such a devastating burial dock times even that times when we are just brought me think the other opinions, this is something can be very sweet person need to be very,
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very disappointed with mr boss or we have to leave it there. but thank you very much for joining us today that go to match. so let's leave the base. thanks and thank you for watching post to syria. again, on the walls of part, the, the the the, what is part of the leg, is it
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