the desktop part of the the option are 10 said welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the middle east. today, the world quote is scheduled to begin a 2 day hearing goal by nicaragua, against germany, by its role in the gaza genocide. the central american nation, infamously, destabilized by us death squads, is accusing europe's most popular economy of facilitating the commission of genocide by providing political, financial, and military support to his rail tomorrow. pentagon boss, lloyd austin, will it be able to congress for more weapons of to billions of dollars would have been used against palestine? joining me now from telling me you've is a long time calling this to be is really newspaper rights and all of the punishment

of gaza. gideon levy, thank you so much. get in for coming on the show. we do want you back in october, when uh when your new book is, is out, but uh, over the past few days, media or in nato nations, continually, and progressively blaming. that's in yahoo as the problem. as regards the genocide it's why do is write these as a society using that based on polls, not nothing. i know, you know, it's an apologist of and that would be of but it, do you think they're wrong to a single and that's in yahoo out in this way as is coming out of the white house and the nature of media and from western european politicians by maine, the disputes in the last year or so with my fellow lives they so so we're left, this is above the, into the o because the remains of these are, the dues can believe that he only gets as it gets out,

gets it read the video then is very returning to the power dies, the basically come through it's and the supplements we be displays. and that bought the we come to the war and got so complex and, and i never been to this been proven by all means it's not the video. the video history goes. government is a horrible government, but the tv is not much better idea is better. but it's not much better for sure. all the, the quote he shows up. 1 the patient in the computer before. so what is the stage of his ready society because they seem contradictory. the most is really is don't believe an absolute victory is possible. they support the wiping out from us. we had progressive much handler of chicago university on on saturdays program. he's quoting a poll 70 percent oppose humanitarian age to gaza and civil pena sleep. 31 percent

face food in security in israel. just give us a, give us an interpretation your interpretation of with the state of israeli society as this, as a whole world condemns it for genocide. nope. and it's, it is based on the service of october and really change things here in terms of the electric immunization before kind of sent immense which were not legitimated before namely, then they moves us feelings and sentiments which are justified after the sense of october of most of these ready to go to all of them turned in to a not only like a whole bunch. it really says or for revenge or punishing guys for violation. organs that not only come us for doing anything but

n sync without any restraint. to punish come boss, punish guys up for the atrocities and they try and some of the sevens, know embassy. i mean, not only know embassy delagarza, and the embassy is almost criminalized. it is right, you might go to jail and is right now, especially if you're in a jewish, you pay any kind of embassy was the big thing. so if you'll say every single day they $12000.00 share in despite says it's almost a crime. it is right until they is read really and i don't know if he's a change, but the point is incorrect. and this changed on the 7th of october and from now on the political correct. this allows anything to say to do after the

7. so over, so as an active, political violence, it was effective. i mean, they yeah, clearly the bravest join list are the ones that have been killed arguably in gaza. so many from algebra so many from so many other outlets in britain, noble ukraine or tea is being banned. chinese tv, radiant tv. what's it like being a journalist? like you are in israel? i braved a. you have to be, i can see on your x time line that kind of attacks for your columns in high. right? so 1st support, i'm privileged to be a jewel. i'm privilege to ride to ritz, which is the la will establish deals paper. so i don't have any programs whatsoever. neither was the government. no, with the secret service in the army, they all worked on somebody questions. i mean, i'm really driven edge. i know i don't think it was by the way for them to know.

i'm really having it for free the whole speech. the only inconvenience is the whole industry itself. the people either see this and to hear the remarks of the book, but i am so used to it. so really i cannot complain is up to about to me. says no god, no just simply was as the as the population. really, i mean, given 70 percent of both even humanitarian aid and put $14000.00 children to being killed and your continually talking about using the phrase a positive it hasn't got noticed to be with feel of safety on the country to solve the thought. jean, i mean it's a body guys, and now it feels quite secure of us that you maybe maybe i'm wrong, but i see right. so doing this thing, it's now or should have been through the social media and or the age for this there . okay, that's a great adverb for social media and somebody competing,

let's them. what about the same thing? you know, they do a power is boring in the millions of dollars. a weapons are quite open about how it helps their own economies at home. as the money is recycled through the military, industrial complex as in western european and us nations off to after the mass murder of the civilians and babies in gaza. but then you get from the national insurance institute of israel, a statistic like to anyone presented in food and security in israel. the not making money a tool out of this a war on gaza. what are those working classes with face food insecurity and israel thinking of that even more belligerent in bell? it goes against the civilians of gaza, a portion of the yes, but taking this or there's no unfortunately there is almost a consensus at all any kind of in the human a measure. so i guess a but yes, the lower classes are traditionally,

both nation released and again, is ryan and hating much more the but as the ends, it's always like this where you are frustrated socially, when your oppressed socially. you express advocacy against also uh the needs you and who is, who is by these. there is a little bit better stands and of course in nature propaganda media, they talk about israel being the only democracy in the middle east all over the world. they say they find it as a only demo by the end of the lease, which is really quite ridiculous. i mean, when you have half of the population which lives under your authority, without any rights, when is read can be defined the police, are they all good by then? so is nothing but the above. i'd stayed record the so the democracy and the only

the vote was in the news is quite through this, but maybe this home or we don't live in the eyes of many people in the world. we realize that this was a nice yeah, but what does it mean to is riley's who say read the newspapers that have most americans now against israel, that uh, that israel and israeli jews of incredibly isolated more isolated globally than they ever have been since the creation of the states is ready societies, maybe the society, whichever one read called the end of july, and we are surrounded those 70 so called a potential awards. one of them is they believe that the whole world hates is right. no matter what these, what it does in the old world is that the semi dig no matter what is what it is doing. so this is quite an effective do,

ma'am. protection. uh, it's either says anything to who's on december it's who would be fine us or emerald $95005.00. that's the way they fight the us, but we have to do the clean. we are so sure about our, just these about the thing that the idea of these really i'm suppose is up the most already. i mean, the words this conviction pedals describes that is, i mean, you are in the idea of from causes it clear to you that the strike on iran's embassy in damascus was an attempt to drawing the united states in, given that israel con b 2 off of resistance movements on towards you haven't towards the lebanon, and so on. no case where it is doing whatever i can without looking at the

consequences. i mean, as you can assess united, somebody all can do some kind of a james on they authoration which everyone praises. then we don't need help with these things about the consequences. and the consequences are usually never for the day by me, some orders destinations. that is what i did in the past. that was almost always a replacement of more extreme equity based lee, this offices terrorist with everything for them. but then, you know, that's the way it is which shows it's a very dangerous way. and right now i think is what is really language fire. as we're saying he, bro, it's can explode in a and. busy mind it can be extremely dangerous, not only boys, but the entire reason maybe a little bit about what we are not playing cell worlds. this is a very,

very sensitive start. there was a time when only the whistle blew up on a guy for noon, who used to talk about nuclear weapons in. and he's really is under rad house arrest. i understand officer is in from a some honey drap, kidnapping in london. were you surprised that it? is there any cabinet minister? good. what are you serious? your baby? talk about israel's nuclear weapons and the use of them again. so people have goza, i'm sure he was right, but i want to point out that what else my colleague said, mentions the other day that the culture of this of guys are no more the do something like a sub key from 3 erosion with is the i know you had your shima, but like a saki we are, we are getting to he or she must have vegas. so maybe these are, that's the big for full against the guys is our does look means i need you to

weapons it. see that it's doing can on the ground getting, that'd be i'll stop you the more from the higher ed to call them this and all through the punishment of gods or after this break the as a result of why this can be cited by lines, these can be scattered by a true importance of we can never be of a station. so that transparency is an extraordinary john. mystic trees then just succeeded in finding the documents that existed in making them

available to the world public. i mean, what could be more moving box by publishing information and sharing information with the public? he was exercising the right to free speech. he did so in the public interest was to so long realized tends to me uh and endlessly, to relate to seriously. i know why advice may say no one who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely bought the adjustments for him to be on boss waiting, a 175 used to go through the sentence. all we're going to let that stay the the welcome back to going under guidance. you'll hear

with the red column this and all through the punishment of guys are getting. and let me to give you we were talking about is rarely nuclear weapons. and the fact that the, the equivalent in d, racing has been used on gaza. does that mean that uh, when they talk about nuclear weapons, it could be against other states in a wider config. we've seen britain in the united states as stripe on the human go showing solidarity would palestinians and give them their arms and bog. oh, well, shipping in ball, grove, israel a, do you think that's being talked about in the, is there any cabinet? i don't think so. i mean, it's more, most of the expression of these really point additions. and it's the best thing for the dig site inc, that their order, different bases. most of them are so much of serious. and this may be space for,

for all in favor of them. because they're so much of serious that they should be taken serious even though when they would when they just read please you deal with france and other things. those people are really playing games with the babies it all the next. it is the next primaries in the box, the nothing more than this. well, the enable is tool cut off as well as you know, blinking and sullivan is still talking about a saudi israel rep russian. or do you think old re, is re these can about making friends and saudi arabia, or is this really an american illusion that they want to progress right up till their elections in november? no, i don't think that they all day is ready. though ray okey buys now, it was a piece me so yeah, yes. so no, obviously any piece threads you will be when it comes here. especially if these are, it doesn't have to pay any price. like it, was it the abraham record, c,

which is where i didn't pay anything for, for having can piece me is another single for error countries. eh, they insure right now is to conclude the score 3 big the hostages to get fixed and nobility. i must remind you that they are all 100 se riley's to replace from the places and they're still living, you know, tense always way. the bank on saturday is what it is, obviously, or the domestic problems. i mean, do you impose also show that the is right, these would rob the why, but i'm us and get the get, have captives back. and there's no sign of the captives daily being released, given that they would release the palestinian captives. and um, and all those people that of that do evacuating gaze of hezbollah firing, there's no sign of them going back. i have, i mean, has it been

a complete failure in strategic terms, let alone the fact that it now israel will be, i suppose, punished in woods from my world court as regards genocide is going to say it was because i don't see the word taking measures against this one is reveal new words and is the by now to me, results was those come from them. they shows you pay the golden. so use any of the so many is that there was only told, developed is right and never took measures is ladies can care less about those combinations. but in any case, a, it is really about the traditional community. so besides what they do single. yeah, the ones are this part of the word who they really want to war every 23 years, which endangers the security all over the world. well, they really want the continuous of the information which will never be accepted by

that, but a sense or by others. well, they really like to leave this reality, which they only speak and said nothing. why the wind rush. uh, is the invading trend. yeah. within weeks we came with this sanctions uh, quite serious sanctions. so or this is about the additional community because people like me believe that they only home for rent and rent change must come from the community easily. no golf or was it is right. no way lead to national communities, barely against the israelites, just those western powers as part of the international community, the look the other way, but then how prepared this is riley civic society for a wider war. you know, some people call israel a j sil like isis or i so what they're do, they think that they're all,

they're all willing to die if indeed the yeah, the ron liberties resistance movement said enough is enough. we'll take is, are allowed for what it's done to the millions of people in gaza. christopher, i don't think this is going to happen. and most of these readings don't think that this is good for them. because fortunately or unfortunately in advance of their will say the, the behold, there is a state of very, very strong and much stronger than all its neighbors and but as long as the weapons keep coming right from by us. but i see that the web presence keep on coming even though the nation including that by the administration. example supply is one of these weapons. he never spoke for a moment, but then he is right. the civic society recognizes that it is totally reliant on

the weapons coming from britain to europe in union and the united states to continue the war against his neighbors. the sorry, suspect is really right now, so brain was and so blind. i mean, it is like this for many years, but now he's in the mall. so most of these res believes been not the only we are the biggest, big, big 0 and we are the only big it's 0. yeah. no other big things about the us. i mean those, the depot the, the way or the 7th of october. this is the only sacrifice in this war. there are honorable exceptions, of course, like yourself. uh, why would you brain washed? i was brain last. i was there, go to the board to be for many years. i was very was like anyone and usually the

list to be when i was a deal 20 or even 25. i never heard the word not, but i never ask what are those voids along the roads? it is way or do they belong to those from whence and where are those people who lived in those beautiful pages who turned in to roy? i knew nothing is only when i started to cry in the late eighty's to try to be able to buy territories brand new me. when i realize that i was born for so many years. and when was the ability that you realize that you'd be lied to and presume we believe the people of israel are being lied to from an early age right now. the process, there is no moments which i saw the light or the darkness. it was a ongoing process which was, you know, something this very moment, certainly 5 years. so dr. main thing, the crime,

some documentation week of the week must have an effect for me and they didn't have an effect for me. and that's they haven't given like the week of the week they often they just explain why a one state solution is the only solution to the palestinian question. i don't believe that is why it is ready for any type of set of one state to state mastic. i believe that this was posted solution is a very just sort of the only problem is that this is a train that left the station. i will go as the and is nothing for them. but i, i, what i saying is that those technical issues, then i don't say necessarily the bone, but in any case we is 7 and that sells a set list in the west bank. it is jose. andrew said that there's no room for it

either, but it's this thing, there's a room for them to stop. but as long as the jew supremacy is there, inside wisdom is there. and the believe that said jewels, there's any other people, as long as this continues, there is no for we is equal to just a spinet state. and therefore, when the 2 state solution is there, and i don't see the otherwise what sleggs we are leaving in the. 1 state for over 50 years. now, the only problem is that the spoke to them of us and the struggle should be over. they were shame on this state. this thing is there, people in gas i, people in janine, are living on the these really not super rarely g, but that very is really more. and the only thing that should be changed is the machine is long waiting to go. but at least we have a fish we have in there, rich,

we have some seem to go for why when did you state signature, or what can you look for? just traveling in the west bank and see all the sentiments to go over every piece of plan. nothing list, or if i do understand, say a can you see how your invocation of the wood apartheid for israel means that the historical power, those can be drawn with the political violence of the amc and nelson mandela. so was october the 7th. really that's surprising, given that to any apologized state should expect act like october, the 7th. no, it wasn't a surprise. it was surprised in terms of the capability of the come us. it was a surprise of the day in both hands of these ready me there was no,

he's ready. i'll be on the 7th. never goodness or the any know, most resources we trust spending down the find the most go on be around. they did this on the lead of a barrier under the ground. did you guys and these are the show that this guarantee is ever seen. and finally, a couple of 100. so understand say right, the bicycles multisite goes across the fence as it doesn't exist. so this was really unbelievable and in this way was the bright. nobody should be surprised that the big enough guys so we never keep up and never surrender. what do you expect a 5 year old survivor who is that is family wiped out in gauze. uh uh, what advice would you give them and what do you expect they will do to israel in the thousands, in the coming years?

it's very hard to say. i mean, i don't see any hope for them. and i always recommend them to look for shirts or anywhere the words notes that i don't do shades the symbols there, they say where you staying on your, on your end of the struggle. but the chances of 34 is raised by 530 strong, yet they will not. that is one of the of my tied regimes had to be and see of course, the nice thing. yeah. but you must remember. one difference is so some of the guy, both a percent or 9 percent, the games, 91 percent, you will have being was face to face the $7500000.00, but it's then $7500000.00. eh,

is range. we are dealing with a bone both the country which is supported by the waves, which is the value of the waves, which are few dollars, which is where the equipment is. i mean, no country in the world gets the same. so only like is way for sure. most of the united states, and what i say so on includes ever seen and you know, or those last the curation so find the nations don't change the basics you. jason english is the, is the last sauce after joe has never been down and go the waste. right? so, so what was a while? was for a long yes, but not in the same quote. the same skate by comparing and there was a very interesting and then there was a game. so septic, it shows false assumptions,

very effects the watch. nobody there seemed to mention the sanction. so in the customer to start getting, that'd be thank you. thank you. finding me that's over the show, i'll continue condolences to the survivors of u. s. u. k. you nation, i'm kidding in palestine, syria, him and living in iraq and iran will be back with a brand new episode on south angel. then keep in touch with our law social media, if it's not sense in your country and i to that channel going underground tv on normal, don't come to a funeral that presents. i'm going underground. ccf, the the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best.

most all sense i'm up the, in the $65.00 to $5.00 must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians per day and split the ortiz phone, even our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services for what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the .