to stare down the barrel of the june e u parliamentary election with pulse predicting far right gains the kind of good we can be establishment agenda in favor of the populace positions. they routinely denounce if show it is necessary to specifically tell congress that if congress does not help ukraine, ukraine will lose the war for a month. it's all. so in the greater scheme of things, this election is one more dark on the board for the pro peace proud in europe at the time when your p and leaders sound like a used car salesman looking to convince their citizens to let them take on the burden of backing you gray with tax fairs, money as congress and washington drags at speed on don't say any more tax payer cash into its own military industrial complex for your trade. obviously, that's a totally winning strategy so far, just as wednesday himself is going to say was, are to international up next, on going underground action or concerts, fixed with an as rarely journalist about the state of his really society. the

criminalization of empathy with the palestinians. people and more by the, [000:00:00;00] the option or town said welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the middle east. today, the world quote is scheduled to begin a 2 day hearing goal by nicaragua, against germany, of a it's role in the gaza genocide. the central american nation, infamously, the stabilized by u. s. death squads is accusing europe's most popular economy of facilitating the commission of genocide by providing political, financial,

and military support to his rail tomorrow. pentagon boss, lloyd austin, will it be able to congress, but more weapons of to billions of dollars with have been used against palestine? joining me now from telling me you've is a long time calling this to be as rarely newspaper are. it's an offer of the punishment of gaza. gideon levy, thank you so much. get in for coming on the show. we do want you back in october, when uh when your new book is is out. but uh, over the past few days, media re nato nations, continually, and progressively blaming nothing. yahoo as the problem, as regards of the genocide it's why do is write these as a society, isn't it based on polls, not nothing. i know, you know, it's an apologist when that's gonna be of but it, do you think they're wrong to a single and that's and yahoo out in this way as is coming out of the white house and the nature of media and from western european politicians by maine,

the disputes in the last year or so with my fellow lives they so, so we're left, this is above the video because the remains of these are the do scan believes that he only gets as it gets out, gets it read the video then is very returning to the power dies, the basically come through, it's in the supplements we be displays and bought the companies and the war and got so complex and, and i never believe this been proven by all means it's not the video. the video history goes. government is a horrible government, but the identity is not much better idea is better, but it's not much better for the call. he shows up. 1 the patient and the computer this more. so what is the state of is ready society because they seem contradictory

. the most is really is don't believe an absolute victory is possible. they support the wiping out to from us. we had present much handler of chicago university on saturdays burglaries, closing a pole 70 percent oppose. humanitarian aid to gaza and civil pena sleep. 31 percent face food and security in israel. just give us a, give us an interpretation, your interpretation of the state of israeli society as this is a whole world condemns it for genocide. nope. and it's, it's based on the service of october and really change things here in terms of the electric immunization before kind of sent immense, which were normally just the main before namely then they, they've, us feelings and sentiments which are justified after the sense of october of most

of these ready to go to all of them turned in to a not only like a whole bunch. it really says or for revenge or punishing guys uh for punishing autographs that not only from us to doing anything but every single, without any restraint to punish from us. punish guys, uh for the atrocities of the crimes on the sevens. no embassy. i mean, not only, no, and the single guys out in the embassy is almost criminal. nice. that is right. you might go to jail. it is right now, especially if you all know jewish. you pay any kind of embassy was the victims of god. if you say a senior bow than a $12000.00 share in despite says it's almost

a crime. it is when today is read really and i don't know if he's a change, but the point is incorrect. and this changed, or the sense of october. and from now on the political incorrect, this allows anything to say to do after the 7. so over so as an active political violence, it was effective. i mean, they yeah, clearly the bravest john list are the ones that have been killed, arguably in gauze. and so many from algebra, so many from so many other outlets in britain over ukraine or t is being bad. chinese tv, uranium tv. what's it like being a journalist like you are in uh, is there a high brave? do you have to be? i can see on your x time line that kind of attacks for your columns in high right. so 1st support i'm privileged to be a jewel and privilege to ride to the hospital, which is the live well established day was paper. so i don't have any programs

whatsoever. neither was the government. no, with the secret service in the army, they all worked on somebody questions. i mean, i'm really driven edge. i know i don't take it for granted by the way, but that, you know, i'm really having it for free the whole speech. the only inconvenience is the walk in the streets of the people either see this and to hear the remarks of the book. but i am so used to it, so really i cannot complain itself. they're both me says no god, no just simply was as the as the population. clearly, i mean, given 70 percent of those even humanitarian aid and put 14000 children to being killed and your continually joking about and using the phrase a positive it hasn't gone unnoticed. it'd be with feel of safety on the country to solve the 14. i need, it's a for the guys,

and now it seems quite secure and then you maybe maybe i'm wrong, but i see the price of doing this thing is now on sure. now into the social media and all the hatred is there. okay, that's a great advert for social media and somebody competing let's the, what about this is that, you know, nature of power is boring and the millions of dollars weapons are quite open about how it helps their own economies at home. as the money is recycled through the military, industrial complex is in western european and u. s. nation's often after the mass murder of the civilians and babies in gaza. but then you get from the national insurance institute of israel as sophistic, like 31 percent in food and security in israel. they're not making money a tool out of this war on gaza. what are those working? classes are face food insecurity and israel thinking, are they even more belligerent in bell?

it goes against the civilians of gaza. unfortunately. yes, but taking this long there's no unfortunately there is almost a consensus at off any kind of in human a measure. so i guess uh, but yes, the lower classes are traditionally bowling. they should at least begin is ryan and hating much more the but as the ends, it's always like this where you are frustrated socially. when your oppressed socially, you express advocacy against those who are the needs you and who else has. but these, there is a little bit better stands. and of course, in nature propaganda media, they talk about israel being the only democracy in the middle east. all over the world, they say they find that there's a only demo by the end of the lease,

which is really quite ridiculous. i mean, when you have half of the population, which leads, i'm the, your authority without any rights. when is right, it can be the find a decent, they'll get by then. so is nothing but the above, i'd say accord this. so the democracy and the only democracy in them believes is quite through this, but maybe this home or we don't live in the eyes of many people in the world. we realize that this was a nice yeah. but what does it mean to is ray leisurely say, read the newspapers that have most americans and now against israel, that uh, that israel and israeli jews of incredibly isolated more isolated globally than they ever have been since the creation of the states is ready, societies maybe the society, whichever one read called the in the and we are surrounded those centers all called

attention awards. one of them is they believe that the whole world hates is right. no matter what these, when does in the old world, is that the semi dig no matter what is what it is doing. so this is quite an effective do, ma'am. protection. uh, it's either says painting juice on december 8th, who will be fine, us, or emerald. they define us from 5, that's the way they fight us, but we have to do the clean. we are so sure about our justice about the thing that the idea of these really i'm suppose is up the most already. i mean, the words this conviction kind of describes that is, i mean, you are in the idea from cause is it clear to you that the strike on there runs embassy in damascus? was an attempt to join the united states in, given that israel con,

be to all for resistance movements on towards you haven't towards the 11 and so, and is doing whatever i can without looking at the consequences. i mean, if you can assess united, somebody all can do some kind of say, a james owns a authoration which everyone praises. then we don't need help with these things about the consequences. and the consequences are usually never all the day, but need some orders destinations. that is what i did in the past. that was almost always the replacement of more extreme ecstasy based lee. this offices there was with everything for them. but then, you know, that's the way it is, which shows it's

a very dangerous way. yeah. right now i think is what is really language fire? as we're saying here, bro, it's can explode in a moment. it can be extremely dangerous, not only pointers, but the entire reason, mainly about the word we are not playing snow around. so this is a very, very sensitive start. there was a time when only the whistle blew aboard a guy venue used to talk about nuclear weapons in uh in these really is under house arrest. i understand after is infamous honey drap, kidnapping in london, were you surprised that it? is there any cabinet minister? good, what are you serious, your baby? talk about, his rails nuclear weapons, and the use of them against the people of goza? i'm sure you're right, but i want to point out that one of my colleagues mentions the other day that the closure diesel guys are no more than they fall into something like

a sub key from 3 or i'll shoot this to a nokia 00. but like a saki we are, we are getting to here. she must have vegas. so maybe these are, that's the big for full against the guys. is, are, does look means i need you to weapons it, see that for destroying can on the ground. can you let me, i'll stop you the more from the higher ed to call them this and all through the punishment. have guys are after this break

the hello and welcome to cross the full board. here we discuss them. we'll in the welcome back to going under guidance, you'll hear with the red column this and all through the punishment of guys are getting and let me it gives you we were talking about is rarely nuclear weapons. uh and the fact that, uh, the equivalent in d, racing has been used on gaza. does that mean that when they told me about nuclear weapons, it could be against other states, you know, why the conflict? we've seen britain in the united states as stripe. so on the yemen for showing solidarity with fellow citizens and give them their arms and bog. oh, well,

shipping in ball, grove, israel a, do you think that's being talked about in the, is there any cabinet? i don't think so. i mean, it's more, most of the expression of these really point additions. and it's the domestic board thing saying that their order, different bases, most of them are so much of serious. and this may be space for, for all in favor of them. because they're so much of serious that they should be taken serious even though when they would when they just read please you deal with brands and other things. those people are really playing games with the baby's it all the next. it is the next primaries in the box, the nothing more than this. well, the enable is tool cut off as well as you know, blinking and sullivan is still talking about a saudi israel rep russian. or do you think old re,

is re these care about making friends with saudi arabia, or is this really an american illusion that they want to progress right up till their elections in november. now i don't think that they all day is ready. so ray okey buys now, it was a piece me so yeah, yes. so no, obviously any b strategy will be when comes here, especially these are, it doesn't have to pay any price. like you doors is abraham records, which is where i didn't pay anything for, for having can piece me is another scenario for error countries. and they insure right now is to conclude the score for being big the hostages. to get back to nobility, i must remind you that they are all 100 souls, these rallies to replace from their places, and they're still living, you know, tense own always way. the bank on saturday is what it is, obviously,

or the domestic problems. i mean, do you impose also show that the is right, these would rob to wipe out a mouse and get the cat have captives back. and there's no sign of the captives daily being released, given that they would release the palestinian captives. and um, and all those people that of that do evacuated in case of as well a firing. there's no sign of them going back. i have, i mean, as it being a complete failure in strategic terms, let alone the fact that the now israel will be, i suppose, punished in woods from my world court as regards genocide is going to say it was because they don't see the word taking measures against is when it's reveal new words and is a new and ready by now. to me, results was those come from the nations you can't go then. so using a of the so many is that the word only talks about this, right?

and never took measures is ladies can care less about those combinations. but in any case, it is really about the traditional community. so besides what they do single, yeah, the ones are these parts of the word who they really want to want every 23 years which endangers the security all over the world. will they really want the continuous of the information which will never be accepted by that but a sense of i of those? well, they really like to lead in this reality, which they only speak and to do nothing. why the wind rush uh is in bathing trend. yeah. within weeks we can with this sanctions i quite serious sanctions. so or this is about the additional community because people like me believes that they only hold for rent and rent change must

come from they. there's a community, it's really not always, there is no way lead to natural communities, barely against the israel. it's just those western powers as part of the international community, the look the other way, but then how prepared this is riley civic society for a wider war. you know, some people call israel a j sil like isis or i so what they're do, they think that they're all, they're all willing to die if indeed the yeah, the ron liberties resistance movement said enough is enough. we'll take is, are allowed for what it's done to the millions of people in gaza. christopher, i don't think this is going to happen. and most of these readings don't think that this is going to work. because fortunately or unfortunately in advance of the will say the, the behold, there is a state of very, very strong,

much stronger than all its neighbors and but as long as the weapons keep coming right from us. but i see that the web runs, keep them coming, even though that's on the vacation, st. jude being defined administration. the chip on supply is one of his weapons. he never spoke for a moment, but then he is really good. civic society recognizes that it is totally reliant on the weapons coming from britain, the europe in union, and then the united states to continue the war against his neighbors. the sorry, suspect is really right now, so brain was and so blind. i mean, it is like this for many years, but now he's in the mall. so most of these res believes been not the only we are the biggest big they've, they're all and we are the only big it's 0. then no other big things about the us.

i mean those, the depot the, the way on the 7th of october. this is the only sacrifice in this war. there are honorable exceptions, of course, like yourself. uh, why would you brain washed? i was brain last. i was there, go to bought the vehicle many years. i was brainwashed like anyone, and they usually have a list to be when i was a deal 20 or even 25. i never heard the word knocked, but i never asked what are those void? 00. it is way the baby know those ruins and where are those people who lives in those beautiful pages? so turning to roy, i knew nothing. it's only when i started to cry in the late eighty's to try to be able to buy territories brand new me. when i realize

that i was thoughtful. so over the years. and when was the ability that you realize that you'd be lied to and presume we believe the people of israel are being lied to from an early age right now. so these are the process, there is no moments which i saw that i or the darkness a it was a ongoing process which was, you know, something this very moment, certainly 5 years. so dr. main thing, the crime, some documentation week of the week must have an effect for me and they didn't have an effect for me. and this they haven't given like the week of the week and they asked them they just explain why a one state solution is the only solution to the palestinian question. i don't believe that is what it is reading or any kind of sort of one state to state messic . i believe that this of those, that solution is

a very just sort of. so the only problem is that this is a train that left the station or i will go as the end is nothing printing, but i, what i saying is that those types of issues that i don't say necessarily this, it does have a bone. but in any case, we're 7 on the cells. the simplest in the west bank, it is jose. andrew said that there's no room for a fire, but i still think there's room for them to stop. but there's no this, the jew supremacy is there inside we is always there. and the believe that said jewels is uh, all the people as long as this continues, there is no fire, we equal just a stand state. and therefore when the 2 state solution is there, and i don't see the otherwise what's legs we're leaving in the. 1 states for over 50 years. so the only problem is,

is the most and the struggle should be over. they resemble this state. this thing is there, people name got assigned people in jeanine are leaving the on the, these really lots of really g button down there is really more. and the only thing that should be changed is the machine is long way to go. but at least we have a fish, we have a direction, we have some seem to go for. why when did you state so nature or what can you look for? just traveling in the west bank and see all the sentiments took over every piece of land. nothing list or if i, but i understand it's a a, can you see how your invocation of the wood apartheid for israel means that the historical power, those can be drawn with the political violence of the a,

n c. i, nelson mandela. so was october. the 7th, really, that's surprising, given that to any apologized state should expect act like october. the 7th. no, it wasn't a surprise. it was surprised in terms of the capability of the come us. it was a surprise of the importance of these ready? me there was no, he's ready. i'll be on the 7th net within his own day. and you know, most resources we trust spend them down me find the most, go on be around. they build this on believing over a barrier under the ground. did you guys and these are the show that this guarantee is ever seen. and finally, a couple of 100. so i understand that right, the bicycle multisite goes across the fence. it doesn't exist. so

this was really unbelievable in this way because the bright nobody shouldn't be surprised that digging deep enough, garza was never keep up and never surrender. what do you expect a 5 year old survivor was that is a family wiped out in gauze. uh uh, what advice would you give them and what do you expect they will do to israel in the thousands, in the coming years? it's very hard to say. i mean, i don't see any hope for them or, and i would recommend them to look for shirts or anywhere the words notes that i don't do shade the symbol there. they say where you staying on your, on your end of the struggle above the charges of $34.00 is raised by $530.00 strong

b. it's they will do that is one of the of my i tied regimes add to the and see of course the nice thing. yeah. but you must remember one difference is so substrate. guy was a percentage of 9 percent. the gains 91 percent you we are dealing with fish, the 57500000, but it's then 7500000. eh, is right. we are dealing was of both the country which is supported by the west, which is the value of the west, which are $2.00, which is where the equipment is. i mean, no country in the world gets the same. so only like is right for sure. most of the united states, and what i say so on includes ever thing and you know, all of those last the curation. so find the nations don't change the basics you, jason,

english is what it is then the last sauce after joe has never been dying of the waste. right. so. so what was a while? was for a long yes, but not in the same called the same skate. i'm perry, and there was a very interesting and then there was a game. so septic in extras, installs us functions. very effective watch. nobody there, seeming to mention the sanction. so i think i'll start to start getting natalie. thank you. thank you. finding me that's over the show. i'll continue condolences to the survivors of u. s. u. k. you nation, i'm kidding in palestine, syria, him and 11 in the rock and iran will be back with a brand new episode on saturday. and you'll then keep in touch with our la social media. if it's not sense in your country and had to our channel going on, the ground tv, i'm normal, don't come to a funeral. that presents, i'm going underground. ccf

the the, the idea of withdraws most of its truths from gaza after months of invasion. but israel says it is simply gearing up for an assault on the southern most city of ruffled russia slammed to west for turning a blind eye. the premium drove strikes on this operation. a nuclear power plant, the level 3 people injured just minutes after and i a inspection and emergency services of adequate thousands of local some such 2nd areas in central russia were water level. surprising. it's due to a downgrade the