i'm just going to hear that. i mean, there's leslie as i say, you have these x edition, a loan or some of decibels i use for these exit bishop. so i thought the exit is on the noon hour, just add it on there. you as a result. so i'll stick with the some of the folks in the past or do a tons based on setting the spend. so what we're talking about the gather example uh i will feel that to so given them or load should be probably this. ready time because you have just belonged to the out initial list of debts, foyce tactics. we big them for religious purposes to somebody does purposes. so there are 2. this is a 2 day window that way it is with eye drops or rep how the program just for now here on our to you, but we're keeping it very close. watch on the middle east. i live in ons has belies, find a volley of miss olives, and the israel, it is this the iranian linked retaliation that people have been expecting. we do not know, but hoping to confirm all the details soon. in the meantime,

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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter level. fine, so it's the medium. israel should introduce a 6 to 8 weeks ceasefire and gaza. later he walked this back also he said nothing. yeah. who's approach the gaza? is a mistake and he didn't degree with his approach. his secretary defense lloyd austin claims. there is no evidence of genocide in gaza. what is the administration's policy, the cross walk in palestine? i'm joined by my guess, lionel and new york is a wiggling media analyst in montreal. we have even google or he is a canadian foreign policy institute. follow a journalist and author,

and in high one beach we cross to craig positive char deluxe. he is co host of the convo couch or a gentleman, cross talk rules and effect. that means you can drop it anytime you want. i always appreciate it cost. if i go to you 1st in florida, i suppose it was inevitable. i would title a program, wag the dog. okay. we're 6 months into this horrific crisis. this genocide is going on in gaza and nobody in western media really wants to talk about who is, is the, is the dog, is the tail wagging the dog here. pasta. yeah, i mean, it's almost non existent on the mainstream media. i flip through all of them left in. right. and they're just simply not talking about it. they're moving on to other things. if it's conservative media, they're talking about the board or non stop. it's less this media they're talking about in terms 91 convictions and we see very little of what's happening inside gaza and, you know, all we're getting from our elected officials. unfortunately it's nothing more than lip service. it's a, you know, a political nightmare for some of them. so now they've changed their rhetoric, but it all is,

is empty hot air and empty words. it's really extraordinary considering the magnitude of the events that are being played out and gods with how little coverage it's given in the west. you can find out if you want to, but you have to make an effort here, vinyl. i've had you on the program for 6 solid months right now, and i a basically almost every program, every other program i have asked you if the genocide is on the ballot. well, we can discuss it now because over half a 1000000 people have cast ballots for uncommitted and uninterrupted. it is on the ballot for some people. i know it's on the ballot, but it's not on the definitional balance as, as you alluded to regarding mr. austin's statement i the, these are masters of equivocation. there is no evidence of genocide. however, the amount of i'm in inexplicable carnage in depth. he is, he defines genocide,

but does it call it that? what i always ask by friends now, because as you know, peter, mike, mike chiron should read the view from the 1st ball because i'm here in the us where we all, we care about apparently our, our solar eclipse is which, by the way, it, everybody knew everything there was about the solar eclipse, but just decide to scapes them. probably ask people this question. ask people, did you think the genocide wasn't the case of dar 4 or real one the or bosnia herzegovina or, or can bodya and the kelly fields. and they say yes, is it, what was, what did they have that does that, does it have let's try the work or that way you are capable of staying? genocide exist, right? what's missing or what's added? what is the distinguishable difference and nobody because i, i think we, we need to come up with a new word. we just all discussion stops as parsing and going well by the i don't

know i, i refused to a band and the word because you call a spade a spade here. um, even if i can go to you in montreal, i started out my introduction. the advice is criticize the israeli prime minister. netanyahu was saying that his approach to gaza is a mistake. i don't agree with his approach. why didn't the president of the united states pontificating what the approach should be? because we never hear that from this administration. other than israel has the right to self defense, go ahead in montreal as well. they may very clearly believe that israel has the right to eradicate from us. and um, us as part of the palestinians and guides of that's, in other words, eradicating palestinians and gaza. and that's clearly what is really military has, has, has pursued personally with regards to the genocide, i actually think the word genocide is become too soft. i actually increasing we use the word this is andrew is committing a holocaust in. okay. good. good. i right,

we, we, the level of death and destruction is beyond belief and, and the, the salmon and the health component is not going to be tabulated. right. we're at 40000 kill. you count those who are under the rubble and then all those who will be killed because of lack of food and, and like, and the us is, you know, whatever sort of rhetorical disagreement in different moments that bite in his had with num, yahoo, the weapons, keep come in, the diplomatic cover release continues with a mid minor exception of extension of the un security council. this is, this is, this is the us is really in my case, canadian government enabled uh, uh, the other side. but beyond that, beyond that, what, what israel is doing now with trying to is, and i a regional war by, by, you know, packing the radio in the embassy, the diplomatic compound, in damascus. i mean, this is, this is completely wild and you have, you have then yahoo, you know,

these really officials say that we're going to, if is, are different we're and response. we're going to then here know, read and an american officials coming to we, you know, we have these rules back. we, you know, we protect is your security. so the us is completely doubling down on what could easily be easily view of broader regional war. and quite frankly, this brought a regional war could turn into something that's actually, you know, world war 3 and believing global. so this is complete, this is a rogue state that is just involved in such incredible atrocities. we such backing of of washington and other neo powers. yes. but the u. s. is just as complex it complicit. ok. an equal measure. okay. because without the united states, this could not happen. a pos, if i go to you. i also mentioned my introduction, lloyd austin, and he was asked by incentives or tom cotton. you know, is this a genocide? and he said, no. then what is a genocide? i mean, what, how we didn't describe to us what's going on there. that's again,

this is part of it. one of these troves that are keep coming out of the administration. go ahead pasta as well because it then just continuously gives is real permission to do what they want to do. i often use the analogy since the rhetoric has changed. now that you have so many elected officials, like chuck schumer saying we should get rid of netanyahu, and a lot of the squad members saying we need is east buyer. it's almost like a best friend, a telling his best friend. they stop beating your wife, but then he hands them a sticker belt to do so. i mean they, it's all this lip service that's out there. but at the end of the day, the united states is going to back israel to do what they want to do. i think we know by now the cat is out of the bag and if you haven't, you know, discovered this that this was never about is real security. this is all about the greater expansion of design is nation. so at the end of the day, unfortunately, americans just aren't engaged any time i talk to anybody about is real. they didn't even realize that palestine was a state,

they don't know what happened in 1948. they don't know what happened. and 1967 with the borders, so you have it in unengaged population and then you have a bunch of politicians that half of them. you don't have dual citizenship with is real. so they're going to continue to do what they want to do, and that's help is really expand. well, why don't going back to the face bowl here in commenting what possibly just said, i mean is you and i are close in age. what we've been propagandized about the middle east, about angry arabs, and then zion is, i mean, we know all of these narratives here. and even when you're faced with facts, the refutable facts, people do not. people do not absorb that, do they? you know, and, and again, peter, i want you to understand i am not having a problem with this term genocide. i'm trying to explain, perhaps i'm not in a very articulate way. what i'm coming up against. i always give a knology, peter, the me,

laurie massacre. we didn't ask any questions. we did the wrong that nobody talked about whether they were human shields, whether be a com or they didn't i. there was a time when we looked at at abject horror and said, that's all i need to see. you can, you can debate all you want. i heard this week and i wish i could have typed it on fox news, which i do not listen to. i swear do, with my actions on my youtube account, and this is the narrative. how mazda is everywhere. they use these, these, uh, these civilians, as human shields. they're the number of how much grows exponentially. i think there's like 3 of my soldiers per guys incentives and they're there. and the only way to to get which by the way is real has the right to exist them and the defend itself. and the only way to, to get rid of them us is to in essence eliminate because one and we're going to wake up and they're going to be just no more. god is going to be just gone. and we're going to say, oh, now what?

oh, well, and we'll move along. this is the rhetoric right now. there's a sense of, this is a, a war peter, that you and i as americans don't understand. this is a different texture. this is, this is an existential. i know, but you know, yeah, but by the way, the way, the way it's played is it can be live, go to even montreal. i mean the, the level of racism is extraordinary here. okay. i mean, come off is, uh uh, and palestinians are acquainted with being barbaric. okay. when they were the victims and barbarism for it though they ever since this age and we can go back to 1948 ivy. even one of the things that israel is not winning in gaza. ok, it's not winning. and this is one of the problems here. as i'm going to talk later in the program, is that if you're not winning, you're going to expand the war. and the only way that's going to happen is that the americans agree go ahead and montreal. yeah, i mean what are the most crass forms the race isn't like look at how much attention

there's been 2 hostages. hostages are defined as those who are taking it. the guys that, well, israel has taken thousands and thousands more policy and hostages in recent months, and there's about some to, or somewhere towards the $10000.00 policy needs detain. there's all kinds of stories about just the horrible treatment of those palestinians detained by israel . and all the media attention is on the b is ray of these were in gaza and you know, let's, let's release the hostages across the board. less less about the ball go and those that it, israel's attaining and, and those that the mouse and other factions and attending a release them. um. but yes, i think that with regards to the, the israel, 6 months over 6 months and, and, and the, the stated goal of override kidding, the home us leadership of eradicating him, us, that's failed. they haven't even be able to get the hostages back. so from,

from the standpoint of their stated goals, they clearly felt and, and, and so they're, they're lashing out, i mean, blowing up the, the sons of the year to put a meter from us and his grandchildren, including at least 4 year old is 608 year old or something like that. i mean this is just, this is, this is not all right. hold that thought we have to go to a hard break and after that hard brake pedal and we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team, the,

[000:00:00;00] the the welcome back to the cross software. all things are considered. i'm peter isabel, to mind you were discussing palestine. the okay is go back to the past in florida plus the you and i in this program uh, over the course of the last 2 years have talked a lot about ukraine and i think that there is a commonality here in dressing. what's going on with causes a israel can not when it's war against her mos without committing genocide.

and even then one has to wonder if they can defeat them. and then you have ukraine, where a ukraine is being used as a proxy by nato countries to inflict a strategic assault on russia. it's not working. so what are they both in both cases? what do you do? keep the war going on? and if possible, expand it off the absolutely, it's a money laundering machine over here. how many people are getting so much kickbacks and money in their pockets or the other day that northrop coming? their stock wins iraq and you do the roof. so yeah, these people who control our government continue to, to push this narrative. but, you know, i want to just kind of touch on the fact that, you know, i, i mentioned earlier and what are your guess just mentioned to as well, the stated goals. i don't think this the, their state of goals, whatever their plans. i think their stated goals are always different than their actual goals. and this is an old plan. this is why, you know israel many years ago, created and funded home us because they wanted to take advantage of a, a jihad is group, is they would say, you know,

that was counteract in the p l. o at the time. and they can do exactly this and, and the same about it is that americans right there. so program, i mean, going through the school system over here. i spent years and years studying about the whole, the costs. but any other genocide i never even got to touch upon. we never hardly ever talked about it. so they have the people condition is really lobby as not only owns are government, they own our media. and it's really a shame of what's going on because they can just throw out these empty words and people will go along and you know, the answer is you'll get like, what about all the civilians being killed? you know, it's war, it's a shame. so even though the kinds of throughout these words you say that it's a shame and they're sad and by it, those still justify it and allow it. yeah, it's, it's very interesting. lionel is that again, i'm glad pasta is bringing this up in the way we've been. we were program going through with the educational system. i remember, i think all of us here who member of the, the hostage crisis after the over through, over the shot, which is something that we've been, you know,

that netflix and movies and they constantly consulate the reason why we should hate around all right. nothing, you know, we didn't do anything bad to them like over throw their government before that. and so line on, i mean people are condition that, you know, uh well, i guess eventually we're going to have to go to war with the ran it is. it's almost passive. go headlines. well, a couple of things are you being the very good point we have there has been created as almost this past. blo be introduced patel. her reaction to the ran is bad and evil like that. the new evil empire. there's a couple of twins here. peter is, you know, a lot of folks who for the longest part maintained a strict, conservative bone of fi days. they were card carrying, right, wingers or whatever. and now we're seeing where the case have been. ok, solid and others. this, this gives them this, this kind of, of it up 238 o c, who came with a little bit closer to acknowledging this. but i want to tell you something which

is i think most problematic. and i don't want to dare i say wax conspiratorial, but there are emerging more and more of these groups that pop up that are pro palestinian. and the chance we'll go from either or whatever. we don't say from the river to the sea anymore. and nobody says that, but they'll say now deaf to america, and i thought to myself, you know, if i didn't know better. and i'm not saying is, i would say, i wonder if these people were perhaps encouraged to say that. so that the already confused american in the fishbowl says up, see what these people were about. just one i own, but just when you almost had me with a generous, i look what you want to do. you want to kill america and it's 2 people in a parking lot. but the way the, the media expand upon this, because remember, this is an informational or information is the currency of this century. this is what we do and that absolves what ever if anybody felt the slightest bit guilty for you know and could be, should be paying more those they say,

i know what israel was right now. let's go back to the eclipse. yeah, i, it's really interesting because we have this really growing dichotomy a year in canada. we have um, pasta in line in the united states. and you know, the, the, the narrative, you know, then the pro israel narrative is intact. though there's a lot of discussion in that really happy about that. a lot of young people and people deciding that they're not going to accept the lives that are they're fed to . but the rest of the world really is very much in lock step against what's going on here. how can the united states and canada talk about human rights moving forward as well? they couldn't talk about human rights with without uh, being mocked uh 6 months ago. um and now they really can't talk about human rights . i mean that the enabling of the horrors and guys is, is start and, and the whole world sees it and the whole, or seen this for a long time. if you look at the voting patterns you, when it's basically the us,

canada israel, like from the use a couple other small island nations against the rest of the world repeatedly and that, and that continues. so even, you know, you look at this israel trying to widen the war, and dozens of countries have condemned this blowing up of, of a rainy and a territory in syria. and, and you have countries like canada to just stay quiet, even though the canadian embassy was actually the windows are blown on the clean embassy of damascus, which has been closer about 10 years. it is windows were actually blown out, but it is rarely striking. still their canadian foreign minister, canadian global fer estate, stay quiet about this. but the rest of the world sees this as a new flavor in violation of, of international law, whole series of diplomatic conventions. but, but you know, so it was, the nato countries have been isolated with their, you know, international rules based order rhetoric and their human rights. right. or they've

been isolated for a long time. most of the world didn't buy it. and then over the past 6 months, but the rest of the world is just, you know, basis joe, right? i mean, the young governments around the world, you know, nicaragua, taking, taking germany to the international court of justice for their arguments and they, they now, so i'm gonna take canada as well for selling weapons to israel. they can't take the us because us actually has agreed to the conventions of the i, c j, the deduction to u. k. they're also planning on taking. so the rest of the world sees the, the absolute hypocrisy. this isn't something new. the, the jet, a sudden god that has just, you know, brought this out and such a star work uh manner. yeah. but you know, uh past the, one of the, the, the dangers here is that 1st of all the west, the scene is being completely hypocritical. um its rules based daughter is a, is a, is a joke. uh come in. it never had any kind of uh, uh, vitality in the 1st place. and so what is the west going to do?

it will use force, so we'll use conversion. ok. this is the destruction of international humanitarian law and international law. and the west is not going to give up its position of prominence. they will use force to keep it. now they don't, they, because it'd been international law has been so trivialized, they don't even make reference to it anymore. pasta. or, or they'll take us to a full out, full blown more, which is i think their goal at the end of the day it feels like the now susie is to run this country over here. don't give a damn. if we get into all out war, i mean, it hasn't just been the is really palestine situation where the ukranian russian situation, i mean that attack on moscow the other day. i mean, i'm so sorry, but it had american fingerprints all over it. and no matter what it said, the matter with the rhetoric is no matter how much the public mentality changes and they keep pushing back against the war against military actions. at the end of the day, we're sitting here behind the gun. we're very privileged. we don't have to worry

about what everybody else around the world has to worry about, and that's us bombs dropping on them. so no matter what, at the end of the day, i think the, those in charge will find a way to, to swing this and get their narrative management going for people to go along with what's going on. you know, you constantly hear people say when you start talking about the israel palestine situation, well, everybody hates the, is really, is everybody hates the, the jews. i'm like, well why, why would, why do you think that is? do you know what that zion is? state is doing so at the end of the day, peter, it really is a scary situation, but i, i have a feeling that they're trying to bring this to world war 3 and you know what they say? well, well, 3 will be fought with nuclear weapons, but world war afore warning, spotwood sticks and stones and that's what i'm scared of. yeah. a line or, i mean with the, the, by the ministrations very, but it's really hard to characterize it. i mean, the way you're going back to lloyd us and not we see no evidence of genocide, i mean that should terrify all of us. ok. because do think that the biting people

they will. busy and allow, or, except expanding the conflict in the middle east because biden will be a war president then. and people rally around the flag. do you think that's a remote pulse? a possibility. of course, it's a remote possibility. you have a couple of points to do that you, you mentioned about the in this i'm so glad you brought about the, the notion of world war for, you know, i, i don't want to bring up the term eschatology. but, you know, there's a couple of things going on here in regular popular uh, media. uh, any jacobson has been talking about a new book about nuclear war. we had the academy award with oppenheimer, we're be actually kind of conditions or either habituated to the notion of nuclear war as though it's not anything to worry about. and i must say that i am below that i'm quite weren't quite reluctant to use the word races. but recently i got to tell you i, i saw an interview with jose andrews from world central kitchen. and martha raddatz and whenever she spoke of, it is really debts. they were humans and it was

a desk that was really easy to use a desk and it was humans. and that was great. whenever you talked about about us, any of that was always numbers and numbers are going up. just like when we would take these like sorties and collateral damage. well, either way, i lied or you're, you're absolutely right. i mean a, i saw that interview to and you know, people were killed in gods, but they never say who killed them or why they were killed. keep going, right, right. is just inadvertent and what's happening is i always think about the bigger picture and i get, i always be from the 1st for the rest of the world is far more aware. but we're being habituated to the, to the, there's nothing we can do kind of like the look. this is the way these people are. and again, i was just go back if you believe that this is a war where this, this, this mythical, magical pro, he and type of her modest is always going to be before human shields are everywhere you go. and the only way to eliminate them is to eliminate any place where they

might be, by the way, encoding using a i. well i why, but we're almost out of time. if you want to comment on that real quick, you may have like 30 seconds here. i mean, it's a we've, we made an algorithm is used to pursue a genocide. 30 seconds my friend. yeah, i mean it's, it's beyond belief. i mean, they know they know they know what they're doing, they're killing and they're killing. it'd be, don't care to use the cheaper bombs when they know they'll knock out 20 people. uh and, and we were seeing this lifetime, and we're seeing this ally that we say is the most moral army in the world. yeah. as us, canadian intelligence is part of the weapons are part of this canadians and americans fighting with these rarely military. so there's so many ways in which we're enabling us. yeah, well i guess for, i guess a we have to update the, the idea of the brave new world's gentleman. that's all the time we have a one to think my guess in montreal, new york and in highland beach. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time.

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