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which is, which has been listed again, live for the past hour and a half to a very in depth q. and a with versus apartment is like a loud rub off. these are the 2 entries margarita simon yon was among those posing the questions as you might have noticed that some up, some of the main points which would shift extensively covered the country's foreign policy. and to allow for all the view on the international agenda of kohls, ukraine was one of the big topics that came up mr. lot. from the scoring. once again, the russian was ready to negotiate with the ukraine off the board in 2 years of conflict. the west, well no, its however accepts the ukraine defeats and nobody to encourage realistic negotiations which involve both sides at 10 in the middle east. of course is the big topic. and the news today with the is waiting, striking around which took place nearly as of this morning. mister laughter of saying that this a spiral of violets in the middle east is where the field was by the lack of a solution for the palestine issue. coming to the nato expands and there was one a clarification from mister nonprofit. he said that it was an oral statements that
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it was giving to wherever rusher ensuring that nature would not continue its expands in east, which of course we know it continued to do so. i was heading to the west, a termination to defeat russian with a lot of rough. describe it as a hysteria. he said they continued expansion of sanctions being rolls out without any castle considerations of the outcome. and finally, you're talking about the china russia relations, which of course, like going from strength to strength, mr. laughter of praise, china for his principles. he credited the country for his method of boxing casserly as full fully. and with patience he said, trying it was a country with a long memory, they remember colonialism. and so they fully understands the tendency of the americans to interfere and dictate, well, that's just a few of the points it covered in this hour and a half long q. and i will be bringing more all of the highlights to you life and
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the program will be back in about 30 minutes. hope to see you then the the the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on peter live out . the balance of power in the middle east is influx. israel no longer has its volunteer to turn supremacy what is called the access of resistance is challenging . israel and importantly, it's western patrons. the
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cross talk in the middle east, i'm joined by my guess, wilmer. it's leo and in washington. he is a political scientist author and a radio talk show host in new york. we have line on he is a legal and media analyst, and in mar, say we crossed it already on tom t as an independent journalist and a contributor at 21st century wire. quite so many cross slack roles in effect, that means you can somebody tell me want, and i always appreciated wilmer and may go to you 1st in washington, you know, you could say the word change, but you know, what is changing. everything is changing as something we've never seen in our lifetime, as i talked about is real supremacy in the middle east is very much being challenged right now. but the, the biggest change that i see going on here is, and we make when we look at um, iran's retaliatory strike for israel's attack on its consulate in damascus. is it israel could only defend itself with the help with the help and assistance of the united states, the u. k. and friends. that is
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a very interesting thing because it is real survival based on how much assistance they can get from the west. and is that good for the west? go ahead and in washington of israel survival is totally dependent upon the west, from a number of strict perspectives, not only militarily and financially, but ideologically, as well. and the, uh what, what uh, what a ron has demonstrated is that the design is this ology of a supremacy superior already. and the ability to protect the citizens of israel is now been proven to be nothing but a missed. and, and that is really rattling the psyche of, of not only because when you look at a lot of the use released, they have dual citizenship. they are fleeing, they are flying in a country like
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a sinking raft. and what a rod has now demonstrated, not only to israel, but to the united states, is we can strike you when we want to, where we want to. and you can't do a thing about it. well, you know, it's interesting, you know, because this is, we're going into kind of a, a sense of a perpetual complex here line, or mike johnson, the speaker of the house. he said in the last new cycle, but he is a, a war time speaker. what war is he referring to and that anyone vote for it? lionel, no one can figure out what he's even talking about. and the other day, which was the most towing marjorie taylor green, who say what you want. often said things that makes you say, oh, she said, has he is he being blackmailed to be? who is the there's something about when republicans take the position, i must say gentlemen,
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they're closer to home. what is also frightening to me is how the college campus, which used to be this, this bastion, this, this intersection, this, this marketplace a free ideas. crazy during vietnam were columbia. we're actually having people that are the, would it be pissy or plenty about it. but it's not anti semitism. what is anti samantha? this is, and we're the, the semantics people we actually are having a college president to come up and explain. are you allowing somebody to think this violence is one thing? absolutely, but what i'm hearing is, are you allowing someone to sink this kind of thinking of myself and my tendency happening? where are the civil libertarians generally the, the, the, the, the, the, the liberals and the berkeley fries, facebook who says, wait a minute, free speech is not condition upon the subject matter is conditioned upon the idea.
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so not only when this is all over, we're going to have this cancer that is metastasized within our system. and, and i don't know if there's any treatment for it. well, you know, a freddie a is, this is kind of an extension of what line always saying here is that, you know, we've seen that is realistic. streamline, vulnerable right now. but it also means that the united states is very vulnerable because if this, this phrase, iron clad commitment to israel, that means be not in states as committing to get into to fight is rails wars. is that a very good idea of, certainly from before, not the united states, but for the entire region and for the global economy here, do the americans understand that what they're signing up for, particularly from what we understand the, the, the costs that israel had to pay and, and it's western patrons on the, on the night to be radian,
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retaliation was $1300000000.00. can they do that night after night after night? go ahead and mark a, a shirt, a computer. yes. of course. this is a very tricky situation. i think the united states got itself in a little bit of a people to be honest with you on my analysis of this region strike and deposit you patients of the united states in defending israel, as shown, and different aspects of this conflict. and also perhaps different reason why the united states intervene. so it's very important frontier to really analyze that you understand was the united states actually just defending each route. oh, so what are you trying to protect? basically make sure the entire defense and m restarted defense. just i'm in the israel, what not being such a rated and i think it do united state to some extent and was trying to avoid an
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embarrassment because we are defending and it's a military industrial complex. yeah, and i've seen that the billions of dollars that have been spanned, india decided air defense in israel is almost a, a, a pilot project for the well to see that. and i don't see anyone in the united states. we don't want to have a public embarrassments. so i think it was interesting to see them moving into the iraqi a space and deploying a complete air defense operation with a refuting anchors allowing basically, you know, to diminish that possibility. the said differently. i absolutely agree with you, is that not only was israel's air defenses tested americas was being tested, that's what you're getting out here. you know, we're a little more you said something very interesting here. um, you know, we have to make a differentiation and because i'm glad we have line and here because he is a not for semantics here. but you know, you know,
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what we see is the defense of israel. that's the narrative. but no, that's not true. this is defense of a zion. this the project we have to keep separating these 2 things out. go ahead in washington. well that, that, that for as much as the is really lobby wants to conflate judaism in zionism, and to say that to be anti israel is anti semitic. no, no, no. this is not a issue about judaism. this is not an issue about jews. this is an issue about zion, it's in what people need to understand is not all the zionist, the jews, and not all jews resided. joe biden has told us very clearly and folks, you can look this up. i am a zion minutes. and that is a very well over do you think? right. so he references, don't you think he's been tricked to? because he thinks it's pro israel. that's what you know. i think you brought it up
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. we were all brought up to make them the same synonymous, and they're not go ahead, you're off to say something very important and i interrupted, go ahead. well, i've always understood them to be different. it was always made very clear to me that those 2, we're not, we're not the same, but this is a zionist settler colonial project. and there are many that believe that as goals is real, so goes the rest of the audiology and the settler colonial projects. and that's why so many in the united states are so staunchly committed to this project. and as we see, as, as with, with south africa, this is now coming to a close. yeah. you know, line or they one of the things, it's very interesting if you look at the reactions to it, to a israel's assault on iran's consulate in damascus and then the retaliation here. what we're getting from western capital is just utter nonsense. i mean, it is bald,
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faced lives the way they're interpreting it. and this is dangerous because this is what they're telling the public said is real one. know israel's in big trouble. and sowards patrons, basically who's controlling this narrative, lionel as a lawyer, i know a little bit about the notion of provocation, self defense in violation of territory. trespass. and i, it's, it's absolutely us down as me, how nobody will ever even say, even in the preparatory side, no. now i recognize the fact that, yes, under international law, the attack on a consulate or embassy is indeed considered an act of war power. you know, or it's just just even pay lip service to it just, i know this may seem at the risk and it's like, it never happened. i don't want to bring this completely derail this incredibly
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important conversation. but it, i called at the kate middleton phenomena. we just stopped talking about it next. what did did don't do, don't, don't talk about just keep talking. we will talk as though this never happened. we're, we're just going to remove and just set this incredible portion. now remember, if i were to take this scenario, if i could go back in time and say, let me ask you, if country a did this to country b and country c, but what would you think? and as the rest of the world, what they would say, believe me, no, but the whole point in line and let me go to freddy here, lionel is absolutely ran with his analogy, but there is always be exception. meaning the israel doesn't have to observe international law in the, in the west. protecting israel doesn't either freddy to well, absolutely. and in relation to your questions we, it's who controls the narrative. i said clearly, we need to dig it slightly. a bit said that when we talk about the western media
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community to west and medias are controlled by the good police, the neo cons old, the a little lead power clubs. but we can not do united 5 to these realize a great deal of instruments in the west and media, please be surely to in france and in europe a. so we can expect the narrative to grow to be pro east readiness such and why. and that's our thing goes for, i choose that as best 20 years in europe. and i'm sure that united states is really nice again. but i think there is also some, some curious as far as to understand what the media is doing and how they're treating just information. and we've seen that over the last bus 34 months, literally slowly abandoning the, basically the con, 16 gaz. okay. i got ready, i have to jump in here, i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the changing middle each day with our team the. the
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boss can do either to speak with key at the washington state, the girls to complete the rest of the guys has to phone up, send 2 professional men video to you for the list of over the age what they use for level the the, the probably higher my little story because the model girl that i got you, no problem saying it all out of the know the things arguments us on the drive i
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showed my brother through he was trying to sell people for a lo so now i never looked at searches as being saved, well, i guess on my list that's the outcome of the travel police. it'd be gang as a car is like you get pulled over the police. you lose your life as another crime. say this could have been a doctor. a nurse could have been the next president. we can't keep losing people out here. the welcome back. across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the changing middle east, the ok, let's go back to for them on our say we, you were making
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a point before we went to the break. we finished trump, peter, thank you. well, basically we, we've seen the mass media, whether it's in europe, in, in the united states, they've studio bands and the coverage of the guest trust it is yes. so thing going on since really generation february on word we so, and we can see that the national televisions, we're getting very little insights on actually israel improvements of the situation . the 1st step is my to comply with the uh, the international court of justice. uh uh, order, if you will say this clearly uh, this is done on the 3rd page and this uranium strike is very interesting because as you said, the weights treated it is treated as a victory. but it's clearly not. and clearly the fruits age that has been provided by israel as well as the expect to damage india and a base and have a team in and, and, and rep on a page in the new ship days. it is just simply not true. it's just not what you
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would expect from a bodies to gas products. so again, we've been lied to. it is the other way to, to present that, you know, uh, wilmer and washington. it's very interesting. i'm glad would probably have brought up the media coverage here. isn't it interesting? and i'll go to line along this because it has to do with semantics. ok. but you know, we hear from western leaders, we should be with great restraint. you know, everybody should we? well, they didn't call for restrain for 6 months, as a israel genocidal campaign was being played out in gauze in front of our eyes. i mean they, they weren't restrained for, it's not for humanitarian reasons. apparently. go ahead and washington it's, it's bizarre. well, 2 things. one, as it relates to the narrative, there was a piece recently that was talking about the fact that the new york times has decided they're not going to use the words palestine. and they're not going to use the words occupied territories. or at least are going to minimize the amount to which they do that speaks volumes about the narrative. now, 2 restraints, there's
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a whole lot of rhetoric rhetorical calls for restraint, but there's not been a restraint on providing the military. the military hardware to design is colony of israel, so that they continue to uh, to engage in genocide. there hasn't been a restraint on american generals in the is really wor, rooms helping to plan and to organ orchestrate the genocide. so there is a lot of rhetoric calling for restraint, but there is 0. yeah, 0. a real, real active restraint by the united states because president biden could bring it into this in 2 days. just by simply saying, we're not sending you anymore hardware. we're not send you any more money you have in line. all vitamin is never going to make that telephone call. a way we hear we hear from official circles that if israel wants to retaliate against
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a directly against around the united states is not going to be part of that. i do believe that for one second, i don't mean just for the interest. but the reason that freddy was brought up is that their missile defense systems are all in co mingled here in the united states is going to know exactly what it's doing and it will give its tacit approval. i'm sorry, go ahead line. well, no, you know the gentleman assigned to a history be rewritten just as an example in new york and the golden gate bridge and elsewhere. when you have pro palestinian protesters the way it is being the way the narrative works is wow, there they go again, complete and utter traffic k as how dare these. and i'm thinking of myself. imagine during the height of the civil war of civil rights movement. when dr. king and ralph ever and nothing others as a famous but edmund pettis bridge incident. boy, there they go again. jeremy hub traffic. know we harold, this is interesting. we the, the, the, the famous i have
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a dream speech. i'm sure parking was terrible that day. when this event happened, peter, you and i have talked about the old days where we used to think about the native american we've been talking back to says she, little southern marlon brando and buried my heart at wounded knee. and we accu patient mendoza apartheid we, we seem to at least indicate a sentence and the ability to appreciate at least the concept that's gone now and you have circles, it's right on. it's right. you know, it's a line or as always brings up a really good point. you're pretty, it shows to me, you know, the, the, the west likes the lecture of the world and it shows that it's virtuous and it must follow its ways out. but this is just neo colonialism all over and it's even, it's an ugly form of it. i mean, it, there is that it's not even, well, it least we're bringing in drinking water in literacy. okay? cuz it's in the mask is completely off right now. okay. these is real house, very protected from these brown people who cares where they came from and who cares
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where they're going. that's how well blunted is right now. freddy? yes, as it gets to say, i think it's important to understand the embarrassment with desire in these projects. you know, because it was established, doesn't it? no nation every state in palestine. so as i say it, nick base states that might survive. you know, if there are small countries and more importantly, if they're not violent, if they're not aggressive, but the state like israel that which is, was built on the secular nationalism is definitely key outdated in the 25th century . yet everybody the knows that are not as maybe for the media to mess price, but it's in the do promoted circle. when you speak with people, as everybody knows that smoke just needs to go, it's an embarrassment and it's treating won't prevent that. it needs to, the problem is that we have a political survival on the table here. i'm the media, i'll be literally for the last past 6 months. you know, you know, crises of communication mode, meaning that there's always off to confirm or they have to kind of just g 5,
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g a trusted up we are saying. so anything that is happening is treated on the prices on an emergency business a little bit, pretty much the same way that our government is currently, you know, applying, and, and governing in the west. you know, it's all emergency, everything is an emergency. and that is creating difficulty because nice catching up with them. and that's exactly what happened. obviously last week and with the, with the origins drive, people got to see actually the truth. so it was, it kind of, or, you know, wake up call reality check it you. yeah, it was a eureka moment in many ways. wilmer, it's very interesting to me that they, the west of invented for essentially the concept of international law. i'm equal treatment under it, and now we have countries like south africa in nicaragua is saying, yeah, what, why don't we apply these laws equally right now, because it's really interesting. who did joe biden turned to 1st after israel was
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attacked? but g 7 o the gloating or former cult meal flowers. i mean, well, you know that this in the be, they have no sense of irony that the same people that you know, exported the ideology of colonial ization. they're the ones who are going to still decide what the world's and thinking do. it's really amazing to me. go ahead. well, i, this, i believe is a, a very, very clearly, an example of the power of the rise of china. the power of the rise of russia on the international stage with bricks. joe biden turns to g 7 when it's really now the rising of bricks, brazil, india, russia, and china, south africa, and the other. 17 countries i think that now wants to join the organization. could you imagine what the acronym would be if you had all of them in there? well, i think we need to outsource that to line and we could probably get it to work.
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okay. i'm sorry for the lovely, keep going in, in uh, washington. and i think it's also important to understand that that breaks for the most part is an economic organization. yeah. and what the united states is fighting . they are fighting the rise and development of economies, and they're using militarism to do so. so these other countries, south africa and others that are turning to the international court of justice in the criminal court. they, their voices would, would have fallen upon death for years and years ago because there would not have been the counter force the, the, to make this, take it from a unilateral power dynamic to a multi lateral power dynamic. and when i say power dynamic, i'm not only talking militarism because you know, when it, when united we try to decides it is had enough of us carrier groups in the south china sea. they'll send a hypersonic missile in there to solve that problem. but the issue now is the
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dollarization, the issue is a challenge. the economies in the united states only solution is militarist. well, you know, line all, you know, it, we've mentioned the president, the united states, mr. biden here, a number of times. um and, and freddy is kind of uh, alluded to a good business shift in narrative. you know, um, you know, all of us were brought up on the propaganda against the move was and it ran and all that it was, it was, you know, part of our, a, every day the news diet is that what biden is going to do now is that you know, ship the attention away from the gaza, which is, you know, dogging him at every single campaign. stop and just beat the drums of war against the ram. is that, is that going to work? because he has to be careful because the war actually could happen line on well, if, if ever you're going to shift the narrative of anything, there is no better country in the world than here. i could tell you gentlemen,
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to times square a couple of blocks from me and offer a $1000.00 to anybody who knows what rick says, no, they get to a line from a pink voice on. they have no idea. none whatsoever. i also have my, i, i my, quote, the questionable, dubious, intellectual friends who will give the most persuasive narrative as to their disinclination to support a war in support of the landscape. and it makes sense, i say, now let's take those precepts, those concepts and apply them here. oh no, no, no, this is different. is there what's different about and, and it's interesting how we can on a moment's notice, we can focus and turn. there are people who still think the middle east that iran has below the who sees that this is some pre historic, almost a dis, this entered query, a group of people with spears who live in a. what i'm that i'm sure is they don't understand that you're talking about really
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serious sizeable contingent. and the thing which scares me the most is when people have it in their heart, when they have a desire, when they have a kind of blood in their so i to the mix metaphor. but americans don't have that. we're saying, well, you know, we, we intellectually understand this, but you're talking about people who live in read this and, and i'm, i'm, i'm the 1st rule of war son, zoo notwithstanding, is make sure you understand the capacity for commitment of anybody. you're engaging because you're going to where they have their future, their family, their history, their pro, but not this. this is essential you line on what you're saying is that when we've talked about brakes and we chat, then talking about changes in the middle east and elsewhere. so when the american not empire collapse, is the last people to learn about it will be americans, right?
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i'm sorry to say, i think you're correct. i know i'm correct. all right, gentlemen, that's all the time we have on, i think my guess and watching in new york ended march i. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. and expand remembered prospect rules the the acceptance and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show . seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not,
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we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you of the a big day for india as the globe is the well, the new economic powerhouse begins general electricity at all. it's a good time in the country leading policy for the next 5 years. what's all special coverage of the race until june? that's what really, the goal of the us resolution is to break the will of palestinians to make them unconditionally submit to the occupying power. i have always called out the political rockets within the un that sadly nothing here is based on truth and justice, but the toxic put it inside the station and flushes and you went out and bought this land was washington. so not going with the vast majority. if it be toes, how the signs request for full membership at the united nations.

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