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hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discussed some real in the the, the welcome to was a part, as can it shared remark more than a century ago. everything is learned in comparison with the prospect of a full scale war between israel and iran, humanitarian disaster, and as

a southerly seems like a crisis of a 2nd or perhaps even a 3rd order is the possibility of an interest state. more in the middle is likely to deflect from the ongoing loss suffering and gaza. and would that be a deliberate strategy to read the rug, the global spotlight out of the global purchase as well? to discuss it, i'm now and join bar offered to say if a member of the is really part of the class that's representing the left wing airplane, george at had dashed talk party. mr cas safe. it's a great to talk to thank you very much for being available. thank you very much for having me. now you've been an outspoken critic of beings, really offensive engagement here, supported the south african motion to pursue this issue legally at the international court of justice, which i know led to sofa on successful efforts to impeach you. and i want to start by asking you for your personal impressions of what it's like to be a sort of,

uh, contemporary dad with the, against the glass. i must say that it's not the easiest thing on it. you know, a, that of some, you know, a limitation and also to that, that i have to face. but the, you know, way we have to do so because i see my start the 1st and foremost of the struggle in the name of justice and full justice. and he might be adjusted. you and your grandson. it has no color. then he says, no nations. so my struggle for justice is full, but i still have the need for every like a you know, my political arrivals, not to say enemies. we seem to use a problem. and then the xhylia society at large a dry 2 days room is nice to be in to a even sometimes team is that i used to be and they of course, they legitimize me by saying that the, my, i am, i'm very, is that i a,

you know is same page with, did you this is totally up watched. of course, i am committed to justice and as a consequence, i'm also committed to justice for my people beside these. so my struggle is supposed to be it, but it's still a bit a shipment, but it's being, i mean dependence is a product of i started full just it, but it is also as i seek justice for a, these are these because i think the ending of the war and the bloodshed, but a shame may be achieved only by participating in the better age. there is the interest. so these are the people as well. you mentioned to your political arrivals and i heard that in previous interviews here, described them as the mfc on and bigots who actually believe that that policy is supposed to bring about the coming of the messiah. that the,

their fundamental list and the mirror image of how loss. if so how do you think they understand the messiah and what the values that messiah is supposed to represent? first of all, it is to frame many of the meanings to them about these ill fractions. stepped up out of the score, at least, and then government, ultimately a, i think the other doubt file, they have 51 being the majority, b as a property. unfortunately though, very popular for these up and it's on the oh especially, and they, they come to the state of the moment. and for them a, you know, life of human beings including these of your sponges, let that load the publish. it is a life of human beings including these ideas such as because of that, the attempt to neglect that even to mock the follies literally inexpensively.

it is because they see the blocks of paper, no, are more damaged. you even the wheels of the coming of the messiah. now i do not know how they can see there, or see the messiah. but the my, in my life, you have to go there because each day that isn't messiah in there may have been messiah existed in they would have endorsed such a blog says so if that close is a serious question of to the justice and send that to you of such messiah and they, that's what i can say in mind. you know, i will be gay shit and i were more of a big should whether we'd be leaving goods or not is it will be cation, as i said before, is do justice and human beings all human beings. and one that makes a distinction between human beings, according to one's gen,

dell or national knowledge, the color of the scheme except, well, if some of them make such a distinction, that's one is a serious. so why would that be the same time mr. cause if there are, there are certain sort of uh, obligations before your country is put patio tim dirt is an i'm in a very difficult situation here. i think going because of my country is also a tour with its neighbor. although i believe that the rush is conducting, it's more in a different manner, more restrained manner than israel. and i would say the comparison of death tolls a test to them. but in any case, it raises the issue of proportional defense and appropriate targeting. how do you understand israel's right to defend itself? is spirit wrong protest and its limits to the interview with you? i think of the peace side of the saga state the i to defend itself. i also said

very clearly you 2 days ago that the you, i'm in a talk on is what i was told that you could make an unacceptable because you try with a disability and then i have 2 silver. any, the insecurity are based way. absolutely. you know, many years ago, thousands of people to go, there was a, a csl called the mako. so i use and he had the very, yeah, in about the patient. he said, as a human being a, i'm a citizen of the, with a small as a, as a mock was old. i use, i am a citizen before. so i can say the same, but those should not come in too quickly. make sure there's no email that's going to addiction. incomes between being a part for york and the universe that he's going to like into the last on the beach . that's why i've said before, that's for me, it's fighting for just this is a, you need this, the in the nation. we just cross incorporates into this,

the very right. so they're very concept. don't just that the input still visa. what they've been doing is out of my double commitment, which is what the commitment to the so any property which i am committed to standards and comes to tests, which like when we went through universal justice does not go to the extra. you mentioned the latest the rain and strikes as violating is really sovereignty um, unprecedented in school. but i would also add the, the they came as a reprisal for an earlier is really attack on the uranium a diplomatic facility, which was also very notable violation and branch of international norms. why do st winette a national government? what's, what's, what they're saying they are to hear from government, what's trying to save and that initial strike and what their thing they were trying

to insure for that with the do with, to, in what they said, you know, well what they, what, what do you mean while they treat it after the strike to an easy way and by you on these, the only way to achieve based and stop the bloodshed, these by jacob lising this over. and if you all the states of nations in the engine, so and explicitly expressed minus innovation to say the least of the violation of this, the way that you'll see any of the need on. it'll scopes, i'm nothing people clocks you know, way people create to go. so i think the only way to stop the blog ship is by recognizing and respecting this, the deal organizations about by the way that should include. ready recognition of the palace theme and the guy to so grab it, they've got to means ending the occupation in establishing an independent palestinian state law side the state of $300.00 out of the only ways to achieve

peace and security for all around the girl. not only, not only in the ridge of now i so your question regarding getting it done. you know, unfortunately, this fascist full fledged talk is governmental fits on the aus is not following or does not care. and he's not acting up on in the interest of dix it be pretty nice. but the bottom of the interesting metal is often with them. yeah. any, be good at all. and that's the, that's the only thing that i have is that that's why i continues to be, it would be insane that they eat the rest of the is the alias is to get leave of this variable government. that's is the main enemy of these lands before we have talking about anyone else. but basically mission process let, let's, let's try to stick with the latest attack and the,

the logic of the net financial that i'm trying to understand. the reason i'm so drawn to it is because up until the rest of the week the world's attention was on what's going on and guys that but with this latest skirmish between israel and iran, that no longer seems like like a number one priority. i wonder if you have any concerns that with this latest skier, why we came going based on our old anamosa team any way that the national government is actually trying to manipulate the global attention and perhaps deflect from what still is going on in gaza. best of fortunately i is the ongoing masika in regards of the terrible destruction and death story of children of women. it's inflamed guns, that was not very, it's not very interested. the international community. the flag is continues for 6 months, even international community, especially in the united states at the will being you and you were really

interested in the well being with the palestinians in their very lives of the but a scene is in gaza. that's terrible. assault was over out months ago, but unfortunately, it seems that don't really care that much won't care about their own interest. so the, so in that sense, i'm afraid that the, the price, the ends of the new jews, as it goes, as did choose for many, essentially it's where they may best acute it once bookshelves, caleb's oppressed, and nobody cab. now it seems i could probably see on spoke you by the same will break down with west cube and nobody cares. now as to what question does, no doubt does the money police and the government's anthony. i would say the government wants to bill. so he's, by that you felt think the fish and even if it wasn't mine, the one on the,

on going eh, they're the destruction and masika and got the don't the situation a with you the i got i agree with you. now i am schools. it terrified of a week on the agent sold court of easily against the von for most because the best, the piece over the edge of the ball and beyond. that's what would be a kind of an age that we've ever experienced before dictates that shouldn't be smoke the head. i think a safe way have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few minutes. stay tuned. the

the extra ones, a part where offer to save a member of things rarely can asset the representing dash tile party. mr. cassim, just before the break, you mention that the west only cares about its own interest. but it happens to be that the west of interest, once again, or for the 1st time brother involved here because some western media report in the biden administration is involved in a very active diploma thing behind closed doors. trying to make it clear to these railways that they want to avoid any bad. oh,

that's what have to draw the us troops. and i'm i same person or that it's a typical american attempt of trying to have a cake. and it's a to being involved without being involved or without bearing consequences. do you think that americans will succeed based time around? uh do they still have the library with nothing? yeah. for him. his people i think they do. but the question that be question is whether they really interested in doing so, do we just measure it for the ongoing muscle, caring godsa in the last week? the last few days, especially since that data. but now they will be joyce, a boy in the west bank and they will a and steve out phone calls love the dead, the po going to spice it is under the auspices. they'll be able to patient process against peterson. but it's the new see the west back. i haven't found anything for the united states and the u. about it's that's but often the other thing that they,

the government to be is that he's interested a to hide or to marginalize. now i'm saying that because the united states, the, by the name says, was talking for a few months now that the us with nothing very, but i thought that day that this total fair email sent, but his fitness in gaza should that be a degree reduced by the same time it continued so the diesel and the very same. how's the key to the people? it doesn't want to be cute. so i'm saying that because okay. he was speaking. he a against a and back on a are you on. but i don't know what he's doing in properties because the last few months show that there is a kind of a coordinating decent on seeing me still by this. i think you would end up david t. well,

i think your very intent or thing describing the state or to mental help us cognitive, but uh, i want to be very clear. i, i don't want to to say anything about his ends is mentally, i've got smoked my dentist and i don't know. i wish him good else, of course, like any one else. that's not what i meant by going through these thoughts i he failed to ease activity, not to is a mentor as well any anything else? can i ask her about this uh, very seam and shop for any of of criticism by the by that and the restriction of that is really ally because i have an impression that this whole uh, the whole point of these very high stakes game uh, from these really side is an emotional blackmail of the americans. don't you dare criticize as publicly as, but that's just my reading. how do you understand the disposition of the nothing yeah, from government to these. i mean, the united states and specifically means that the,

the bottom administration are playing a game of chicken with washington. and how do you see this whole relationship, or cindy all says, military political symbiosis evolving over the next couple of years or perhaps decades. best of the same, you know, these exist to many useful dictates. it's not something new. a sick me, you know, everything is out of it. i don't know what's going to happen of the election in the united states. a things may, may change a what they can say is that they at least be a money police, you know the spit politic up and move us to that. and that then you always being there doing in the last few months of the consequence of the a presto. that the fuse or the they exist if you like, a suspension. rest of the piece in a between the 5 she's the most for not the great seats and

foxes that we see these governments. oh, well that's nothing. you know, that's the only thing that he could talk to you as well. by the way, with lewis at the time to be more valuable and to be more aggressive towards that, but his students ended on. so that's one side of the question. the other side of the equation is that the, the other week of a president by them and others who probably a one easy way a to not to a be more aggressive bucks to be less aggressive ends in that obviously even to stop some of the, a medium of the activities and this pressure doesn't let them you don't fly themselves even. i think this, this pressure is the main incentive. you emailed them? yeah, i was behave. yeah. any thoughts says b, a b a is not exactly a quote to it. now,

and there have been some reports of primarily in the american media and the american media close to the by the end of ministration that the white house has been trying to persuade. the national government to opt for a quote unquote, a limited response on all to respond at all to the is and to be rainy and strikes they portrayed as a, as a victory for israel because most of the missiles and drones have been into a substance. so there is no need to respond at all. and i want to ask you, what do you think that the limited response can be um does is a real have the military resources at this point of time for a major action lead to long for a prolong confrontation of it around whether you know, at the same time it a president of binding said what you quoted he also was quoted the police, the some of the rest, the day it for the last couple of days. the people did not see anything if you the what if he decides to acting one way, not do it. we, we face again, this kind of a,

a, you know, blair o a fuzzy, a party c by both of them. you know, and in by that, so it's very, are clear for me a whether the items of the me situation evening sees either mine or the reaction or a know the know the option of to or i really don't know. it's very tough for me to understand because there's so many go to the beach jets a not between the different publications, but between the things that we still buy themselves. and that's, that's why don't think i still do the identity with the piece i have a is. it was quote and they gave me different that newspaper as in charlie is do with the newsletter upside. that is the way that they might be. for instance, side bill reaction that i do then immediately you want and they are really don't know. the only thing i'm sure about is that the best for everyone. well,

the agent as a quote for these ladies as part of the agent was, is a, the best is afraid the government to be glad was not going to act up to or dots did he is do is, let's move forward to peace. stop with the military, every option, option 3 options, you know, how to montgomery said i fully and i with them every by the blinds while we're the don't think mr. nothing. yeah. for me it's um, i haven't gotten to a police at this point of time and i do want to ask you about this because he's been sort of uh, using these right wing sentiment growing up and a is really a society very certainly he describes him as a as a fanatic, but i think he is a very experienced and very shrewd flush and, and do you think he can afford himself, politically, when we go into or sort of what they want to de escalate?

glad to look neutral and not be, you know, gearing on some more military action. but i think these are forbid, there is a possibility. i mean, we can do that. i, i do not accept that these are kind of the, you know, making these channels something like that. i totally believe that the last, it's totally in the last few months. let's not forget the piece of responsibility. embarrassed or for their own going a lot. the 3 of the societies, it'd be facing easily responsible for so many fails in our friends. you could imagine a, you know, in defense economy, a party piece, whatever you can think about the face, the face to face time after time after time. is it by the way, these are be the it was honors love, so it's nothing makisha in my to is a cycle box and who lost

a he said he wasn't so quick and still mental emotional not a doctor's to say that the, the big, big goal was the ends eh, psycho particularly as, as well. but he was that i should know in choosing the beams to achieve the scores . now we lost that this way and this our cost, if it's a $3.00 they only about and that's half a person i or perhaps about the largest enrollment. i'm concerning both israel and the united states because it looks like they are both these countries massively losing the economic political social advantages. that's how they have managed to accumulate over decades and over here as they're, you know, expanding and on some very outland ish. and in humane proceeds, don't turn griffin bad. i totally happy with it. so depressing that issue with them . you know, just right to answer your question because you asked me about that, then you know, personally, but they don't usually do. that's not the person the issue. and it's not that we cannot put the old blame on it then, you know,

it's very interesting because today in, in i outlets newspaper. and there was a, an article that claimed that the neo is not the responsible for the escalation, especially as far as the occupation was concerned about these a byproduct of the occupation. i totally agree with that. the occupation of 9067 is the see the of the, the most of the eh, disease is very society is been going so especially in the last few months. and if any, oh is only one of those diseases. i totally agree with you. in the united states, the administration's eh, being supporting the ongoing book, you pasted in practice. everyone seems a new patient gets there. seems to be, have done john. so obviously, you know, there was not even one president or seriously challenged the occupation. so in god

says like, put to match up the blade to the on going bloodshed that everybody stopped as well . especially the 1st thing is, but these are at least 2. like, what am i to, to blame all the different w stations and do like to stick? it's absolutely. okay, mr. cassandra, in a few minutes then we have left. i want to ask you an impossible question to answer, but the still, how do you see the situation? it's not resolving itself done, at least moving in a slightly more peaceful direction. a s a, of course, the suffering is the manual. the 1st thing that people, but let's not forget that they have more than $1000.00 these ladies, but bush out by come us to on the 7th of october and they are still 100 percent. if we is there any hostages dying in the time that will come masters. so what should to be done to must be what should have been done months, the goal is to release the hostages and got the means and they'd be very, very,

a brief breast. they will, should be stopped. now, the old hostages should be released god, this was to be repeated. and the most important thing in order to prevent the ongoing blood shit and then not doing my 2nd is to begin with the serious motion towards to peace and talk necessitates listing anybody they should be able to patient the siege must be and that the but a seeing of people using died to, to his independence and silver. anything, even though it's always the people they look to find in june 1967, we must do it now. that's the only way to save the lives of or people involved, but least seeing as easy as you get a chance to then yes and on and and, and beyond that because if we don't stop it now, i'm afraid that we are facing, we are on the brink of it kept us still feet that will be gaming and then it and

they've option individual now is option in war, but the may easily escalate was a where to go we must scope it. it, it is stop at the but we, we do office chair as far as we can. we have 2 week, but we do need the and the international community on the peace side, not on these. i don't wanna spend a site on the site or if it gets if we have to leave it there, i really appreciate your time. thank you very much for being with us. i thank you. the best bless us. thank you. let's also going to base and thank you for watching pope this era again on walter parts the, [000:00:00;00]

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