and now that community to have an urgent action to uh, which more pressure in order to have occurred when sees buyers that would allow save and to stay in the military and access to all areas of casa. and what is going on for more than 6 months. it is almost up to that we have senior civilians being on time and targeted. there is no aspect of life involves. uh, we're talking about this significant destruction also begins homes where more than 70 percent of civilians who mendoza have been destroyed. most of the population i know internally displaced, they are living in tents or schools lacking access to pull the water as when i am education. so they would have been injured and they call rhyming incident, and the rest of them i've already is believe it was a terrorist attack. now this a savannah's video shows when the vehicle plowed into 3 pedestrians where include

additional sort of jewish clothing. the driver then will have control of the car in flight on foot with an accomplice, one of the same signs of fire and gun reposing the jammed, but assessments with quick feet detained for questioning. well, last little from me for today either way, if it's great to have your company, my colleague mike, will be with you at the top of the hour. so i think you're a very the, the, [000:00:00;00] the

hello and welcome to cross type bullhorn time peter labelle. here we discussed some real news speaker of the west house of representatives, a republican mike johnson, claims that russia, china, and around are the next new axis of evil. well, here we go again to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my desk drawer to study while we in budapest, he's a pod cast or the goggle, which can be found on youtube, locals, and in marrow cash. we have martin jay, he is an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that goes in effect. that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with georgia in budapest. the, of course, the funding for ukraine past is we, you, all 3 of us expected all along. and, but before we get to that, george, what's going on with this axis of evil? i thought we had retired, that ridiculous concept after the failed comp, low interventions in the middle east. it's suddenly of come is come back by this

peculiar guy named mike johnson. what do you make of it that that's well a piece of the expression is a level of retired. um it, it is true, is it else a, has it been that who maybe you vote for in the united states? you always have john mccain in power and so it doesn't matter. john mccain may lose in 2000. you got to george w bush, and i think john mccain program same back obama defeats john mccain, john mccain. so empower so now what we've got is this apparently magazine like which is what a dollar trunk goes in. megabyte so essentially presided over the most massive transfer of funds, obviously to the us military industrial complex, but also to the ukraine's all the gods. the mass of a transfer of funds to a israel, as he presided over a kind of

a pop 3, a wall mind of, of, of the restrictions of civil liberties restrictions on freedom. so take talk with selected, there ought to be banned in the 9 months time. um, supposedly, uh, there's got to be a seizure of, uh, russian solver and assets in the united states. so essentially it is a complete wish list. so everything that the deep, se, the military industrial complex, the democrats, what i, but the saw and the one thing that the republicans had one to which was border security. and i was looking to see they didn't get it. so i don't of the else thing . the previous ineffectual speaking look out they, they got a version of how much was because it but actually a more competent version of it because it, because he actually pulled off what mccarthy failed to pull up. this is a total um own go by uh,

the republicans in election. yeah. it's extraordinary martin, but you know, it's, george is absolutely right. no matter who you vote for you get john mccain. but john mccain's, vision of the world always ends in catastrophes waste of money. and there's a and the diminishing of a reputation around the world. it's. it's like a information loop that just goes around and around and around. there's no learning here whatsoever. martin. i think that there might be some loading um from, from uh, humble competitive lets go this. yeah. i think perhaps we're letting, but some, what you described is really a catastrophic failure of the us foreign policy, you know, in, at all times and unprecedented. i would say, so i think there is something to learn that you know is that is that we, we are learning it but they are not learning. and then we have, we have phone was informed,

was over expensive and short term and long term. but i sympathized with the republican something else because i take george's point to heart and it must feel for the republicans. the best hop. both houses now are basically a democratic majority and it won't happen. but this guy was absolutely extraordinary to 1st is through the last moment when he paid off was he also to deal with the mine bubbles in to but some from the democrats side, from the button count. it doesn't look like losing strategy because they must be asking themselves, look, you know, in 6 months time, how many more reports we have to deal with a russian advances? can we? is, can we throw more in a, um, bundles of cash on the file just to keep this plan going for another 6 months, 9 months, you know, until the election to arrive that because i think that's the way they must be looking at it. a lot of them are kind of controlled in the trump comp, must be thinking, well, that's really the last show that is the last book. you know, it will still let us going to be sent to this discount for 2nd country. if, if 12 over the, that's the with the, or you have the sunk cost file. let's see,

you know, we've already invested so much. we can have to keep go. it's george, me go to george george. i mean, i, i find it, i'm, no, i'm thinking about it because a majority of the republican base is how to go or agree against these foreign aid packages, with the exception of visual israel is always an exception. but george, in an election year it is extraordinary. and, and it just shows there, when, when you're in the grip are based on kind of an 80 ology, then your own self interest on how to go by the way side of what happens of it. but over the last 10 days was to cool x. although i guess so, but emulation by the republicans, they lost the key issue that they would have had of going into november, which was these of vitamins was buying the united states into uh, several very,

very dangerous uh, complex. he doesn't know how to get out of them. and we, the republicans on the leadership of donald trump can bring these was to him, and that was trump's issue. and trump throw it away because try in doors what mike johnson did and what my johnson date was. so good. and i by whose agenda so by me will be back on the rose garden sometime late to the next week. and um, that you will do the signing well the republicans will be behind them clamping him huge victory by now trump doesn't have an issue. i think trump us now see the deal . he will lose the election in november because he doesn't have an issue to run up . this was his issue. this was the issue, the guaranteed in victory in 2016. i am the base candidate. i'm the one who's going to keep us out of the stupid was i'm going to focus on the domestic issues. now he doesn't have that issue anymore because the moment you said, well, these are biden's was the media. you know,

every single moment of the day will point out. yeah, but you endorsed, is it your policy you to do that? he's not going to get out of it. i mean, that's what the media do. they gotta keep doing it all the time. you did it, it's your policy though trying to wash your hands of it. and i think that's go to what they consume. because what i mean is, if you just gotta get biden's policy, you might as well invite him to do it for you. just yeah, martin, me, we had did the, mike johnson and the you're a guy not too long ago. he did one interview with glen greenwald, which george and i had discussed. and it was a big civil, libertarian. i mean, and, and very, very much, very cautious about government intervention when it comes to the banning or limiting speech here. but if he went total swamped, it's total swan creature and a center of rainfall. he, he has a theory that he knows the washington work city mike johnson was taken into this

little room by some security operatives. and given the horror show of, if this is all at stake, and you're the 3rd most powerful person in the world, only you can make a difference certainly. and if the senator is right, then he took good hook, line and sinker weren't. yeah, i would just have to take a deal just for the use of underestimate trunk to utah. so that's what he's saying today. he's famous. you know, so i think there's always a possibility that if he kind of actually convinced the american public in the last few weeks running up to the election, that the strategy new client has to fee to pull out. and i'll spend another dollar um, he may not have the support he has now in terms of numbers, but may well prove very popular, especially if the republicans get the right together. and then media machine is organized and i can actually show the listen $170000000000.00 of your cash was to go into public. they didn't go into the health coach cation building rice and kidding just americans went into funding this machine. when lucy,

even with the cache, was still losing, that might be a resonating note for a lot of americans particular. so i'm not really sure because george now is trump is kind of anointed mike johnson. ok. so he and he has real power, and actually he's taking that away from, from trump, doesn't hold off as obviously trump is a leader of the republican party. but if he's anointing of the establishment a party, it diminishes trump during this campaign and completely baffled by this george. exactly opposite, because he has anointed johnson. johnson came to him in modeling a trumpet and have to see a joke. i said a bit busy or are you going to see them and just say, that's your problem. i, you know, i've got an election to run about law suits to fight off. i, you know, you're gonna have to deal with it by a, so i didn't do that. ultimately, you'd have to say that, you know, there has to be like, assess the policy of traumas going back to the time that he was present as

supporting your frame. so it's, it's just the perception, it's actually the liberals who have put, made completely to create the story out of whole cloth. the trump is broke, grouped in, trumpets pro russia, companies on to ukraine. this was all made up. it was never any troves in it. he was the one who changed obama's policy and start ascending lee. so military dates are you great news continue to boast about any other said well yeah, that was uh that was just a moment trip a uh abberation on my father he boast about his oh i think that's made a difference in the statement that he issued on on true social, he says ukraine is important to us. so he didn't, you know, this is all made up as well by the so the mag supporters like bannon and by m. s. nbc, the trump really a to bring trump us to wash his hands off. it's no, i mean not, but you know, you look at the rank one of the man he believes in this,

and he's therefore essentially thrown away what could have been potentially his best issue. what i think it threw away, martin is to be the piece candidate. okay. and you can, we, can, we just kind of move away from a guys a way from ukraine i want, he could have had a much more coherent message of why don't we have little bit more diplomacy, why we throwing so much money around? it's not solving problems, it's perpetuating problems. the actually, i don't understand the political calculus here. instead of getting yourself into the nitty gritty, the minutia of these issues, say, look, we need a fundamental change in policy that resonated with the public in 2016. who knows what happened in 2020 but it's still there and it's a, it's a lane that he won't take it. it's something i'm i'm really disturbed by martin. we want to take it now, but i wonder what does it show and it doesn't matter. now they did, the guy is cast, i think go ahead. yeah. but my just, i mean, you know, who is this guy? you know, i mean, i think, i think he will soon, you know,

disappear um very quickly and people won't even remember who he is or what he said and in a very short space of time. and i don't see him as a particular person. but i agree with joe as the trump doesn't a problem now. um, but i think a lot just places more emphasis on these 2 candidates to run their actions based on personalities alone. if the, if the policy side stuff the way the way you know and is really, really it really isn't that much to flight about except the economy costs, which i don't think works in but, and say that i think the trip without effect on what the tool and you know, he think a little associated him with his friends and as a leads doing very well, but not hold that thought i'd have to go to a hard break of after that hard break. we'll continue our discussion on some real new stake with our to the anyhow is names kind of general that asked each other as teachers this to, to, you know, she said, hey buddy, how much are you with it gives you that. yeah, it's just our stuff for us to do

a number of us. they would have to buy to write down your paper that just interest more assistance from you. because what i no longer wish to live for production, the foreigner, and it was the last the books or the, or just in the us trying to buy me on the phone with the police. i'm a part of the lockers in the thing that, that of us, the 20 minutes for us government, much less for the 1st day of just opinion noise. yeah, i mean the only, so i'm spending, if i need to kind of pushing the numbers from assignment, couldn't be happy to spell interest. those couple of thoughts, a choice central is to layer on a team. it's almost 9 you should have for them. so i'm assuming graphics, which is really

the welcome back to prospect bull horns on peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some wellness squared. let me go back to you again. i mean, these, the series of bills that were passed about for an of the following funding aid. you know, we've been going to israel guys, i tie one. um, uh, um and you know, banning of, um the tick tock here. it seems to me with, with the republicans joining in on that they lose their leverage on so many different things for, for example, a funding the israel. well, that's already been passed in a bite and signs that were kind of leverage as the half as the money is going to keep going. i mean, you get you giving up so much leverage and power that the us has. and it by bypassing these bills and signing these bills. well, israel's already been paid, they're not going to listen. me. yeah. well, did they ever listen?

uh, i think them as well. i mean it money, money gets people's attention. you don't, you think it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a thumb or yes, it does for a short period of time but, but i think the lessons look in that we will to now, to really to so i have a relief and the last few days with this so cold attack on the run by israel, which supposedly isn't going to have any representations we hope but doing that. so it sounds fun and bite and you know, i'm just confused. zillow, i mean, i just, i can't see now what the real issues will be. now when they see class, you know, have to head. but i, i do think that some of the thing that really gets me about trump. we should never forget that supposedly enjoying his campaign. he showed us that he really was very uncomfortable with a woman who was very uncomfortable, being us, preston. i shouldn't be having any was around the world. you know, they say i'm a little cyclists in america. i'm just a supreme leader of on forces or something. somebody like that you're, you're telling me picture,

i'm sure i learned to manage it. that's all i selecting doesn't sit well, let's have a soul. and that's the only hope that we can have is that he will still present himself to the american public as somebody is going to deal with these will title. i'm just also and i think that's what we've already done with it. well, the, you know, you're training now. you know what, what those $61000000000.00 by you. i mean it, i think it was in time. definitely some time. but even with that money, we seen with a miscalculation with the corruption, with the incompetence, you know, with the ineptitude of us. and it's key. and it's all me. we've seen still the rush of pushes forward versus still has games to my. well, i mean, for me, it's a, it's really not the, the, the, all or some, because they've got the, the, the campaign in um, in ukraine is going in one direction and we'll just continue going in that direction. okay. it's, it's not, it's not really the dollar amount for me, george,

it's the fact that you give a leverage. okay, so what, what, what does happen here is that instead of trump, the unifying the party and now you know, you, it's trump, and his mag of supporters. and you have that republican establishment, that chasm is getting larger, not smaller george with it. that's exactly right. either and that's really the point because what has happened in recent years and the may be through trumps of 2016 campaign assembly. republican party is as much as the polity of peace and the body against big governments, against the military, against the intelligence services. and in favor of the civil liberties i made small thought on usually to essentially republican, but it was going back to its free world war 2 guys against the old. you know the coast. uh well go to coldwell establishment, the same thing. but now this thinking has prevailed against the g o, b,

a. so now they, they lose that the important issue, which they could have at least one over. um, people who, you know, who might not naturally be voting for republicans, but this, but they just aren't. so killed by the, by the regime, you know, in bracing all of the ideas of the deep state and the military. let's our work and what least the republicans are against this. and so even though they've, they've lost that liberty, mike johnson, he changed his view. why? because of a briefing by the intelligence services. well, let's see, is that the intelligence services that you've been accusing now for several years of trying to topple donald trump? there's people who are trying to, um, but in that asylum who in the united states. so what do i do? essentially kick out the elect, elidah inside. you set up all these committees to investigate government abuse or government weaponized, ational governments. i guess your political opponents, you mean that the intelligence service you set down and you thought, oh, well,

i better believe that and all the weapons of mass destruction and all of that in the bushes, you mean that intelligence services goes away. so you've lost some leverage, i think that's really the point and above and what not to mention about the personality. the problem is on the trunk, may be under the delusion that people find his personality appealing, and that stroke things are. there is a fact faction in america that does fine is best and that's a very appealing, that's not enough to get you over the line. so i'm going to get you 51 percent. you know, people will, you know, the person out of this fine, but you gotta have the policy. you're gonna, well, george, even in 2020, nobody loves go by nobody. okay. but in, in, in we get that process. they'll continue just be, you're absolutely right. martin, we can spread it out of here a little bit. i mean, this axis of evil. so i suppose china is on notice right now. i mean, that's like waving a red flag in front of someone here to be, you know, where it works. we're not going to have

a peaceful coexistence. we're not going to have cemetery and know where are we? this is a new cold board. you are the enemy rushes experiences for a long time. now that china is. and so what does russia in china do? they come even more close together. i mean, there is there any adults and this administration whatsoever? exactly. yeah, obviously it's a point that they make you look to about british politics, which is i've noticed in my lifetime, how and peace in london, this educates it's less informed and frankly, lessons, you know, not even uh, not even remotely excited about leaving it remotely astute to aero dice, and what they do anymore, and the big, the base it becoming sick, you know, and i think it's a, some america wasting atomic down of the political process. and the people within it, people are actually saying more of those stupid things, you know, without even having to research without even having these thoughts starting next them to say, you know, talking about new access. and the last time someone said that george w bush, the american faded, the racket was

a premise of something much figured out who would not experiencing that now. but to go back to a point about showing that being the enemy and russian being enemy, what's the reason the enemy? don't say that $126000000000.00 or for an investment from american companies in china, says that you're not the enemy. you know it's safe city to go down that road. well, i think will interpret from doc is just chest beating a certain nationalistic book. * but also what it does is to georgia, it's threatened inflation. okay. so i mean, you know, we have the asked in graft. we have the ongoing ukraine, griff, than, you know, the korean peninsula has been the, probably the greatest risk a since the 2nd world war that just goes on and on and on. there's not even a question about that. and so here we go again the, the industrial base of the united states has been degraded so much so that you have to rely on arms to export or make money. so this is, this is really extraordinary. again, trump is betraying everything,

but he stands for me. and so, you know, if we're gonna, it's, if we're gonna have an industrial base, can we have it more than just arms like have well paying jobs for people, they don't know that the swamp always wins. joe and john mccain always with george . this is exactly right. be there. and um, it really is the case that whenever there's any kind of a fight, any kind of a resistance to the swamp, the swamp will prevail. what's your go, sir? uh remember that um on the sides of a uh, bite and signed into law the renewal of fi is uh the wireless search bar. the bias . uh so this was a real head mike johnson played the really cold role in the on the critical book. yeah. he gave the critical works, so this was a really bump a day for the deep states the other day. and so no wonder they were all the democrats who are waving ukrainian flags inside the the capital. but on

your point of view that this was a, this was trump certainly point. this is why he became present the people. what are the vote just for him? you know, i sent you a reality tv shows. uh uh, you know, an uh new york real estate, so i could easily have the promise. we're gonna end these want and we're gonna rebuild our industrial base, you know, make america great. again, we're going to go back to the america of world war 2 and the immediate, the decade after world war 2, when american industry was the end, the of the world to leave a side question whether it was doable or not. but that was the whole point. then we don't wanna waste all these uh, precious results as fighting stupid was it doesn't, don't get anything for him. i get it. and that hasn't worked. and the he was an opportunity for trauma. and because of the how the he has the bass, i need even head with them later. the g o b conference, you know, congressmen who are ready to follow him and say, yeah, we're, we're with you on this. we, we don't want to any more of these was we're not going to get one penny to the

ukraine and all the got the down and george on top of it on top of it. there is no down side for the republicans. they didn't vote for, they don't fear trump, they don't. we're the leader of the party. democrats. oh my goodness, you'd have fun. i'm looking to ship. i think it will lock you out of your office and give you one way ticket. oh martin, go ahead. it's. it's a 6. all right, i think we've reached that point now. you know where it's, it's so difficult to, to, to look at these 2 candidates and understand what, what the real story is. all we being phones here is this a smoke and mirrors sort of bluff and trump. i wonder if there is most of the story so that we've actually really stumbled a, you know, i think less not underestimate his ability to, to surprise. so with his media stance and, and some of the cronies that he has around him, you know, revising him on a day to day basis so. so i think we've got that. so look forward to, but in the short term i must have made. yeah, but i, you know, i, this was

a huge win for the democrats and buying a huge. okay. and the, the colossal size of it. i think george is right. this is going to be use as a whip on him all the way to november. but you supported your um speaker supported it. what are you are doing about you taking an issue off the table which was very viable for so many people. george, i finish up for us. it's exactly a bible. he may try to distance himself away, but it'll be every single day of them as nbc. cnn told me that they're gonna be saying this might be 5000000000. this was the biggest, biggest ever package for ukraine you signed off on. it was a little for him to best build them, accusing would be put, put in spots. it was great. i was the harshest on russia. i still don't accuse him of working for the career live, but also choosing of the supporting biden's policy. that's a politics,

the short circuiting itself. i'm and maybe martin's right. maybe there's something here that we don't understand, but i tend to doubt it. that's all the time we have gentlemen want to take my guess in budapest and america. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are dc next time. remember, costs across the us. hi, i'm are expensive and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different? i listed of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please. i do have the state department, the c i a weapons makers,

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