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has had to become less dependent on west and inputs. and by doing that, it's really increased better jobs here and better output of goods, which obviously increases the economy. we can actually see is actually scattering the u. k. government, we can have what the you k treasury select committee has to say about that as well . that there is a general consensus that the sanctions are not working in terms of the state of intent causing real trouble for the russian economy. the i may have a full cost and it's going to be $1.00 of the strongest economies this year. so yeah. morales, we see that even the k treasury. so that committee is talking about the i have no friend of ross is that site based in washington dc. pointing out quite from here, 3.2 percent. right. which is way higher than this thing for any of the countries even within the g 7? no, i was about a little bit west of the country that are getting worried and also i'm sure it will . these countries wish they could be doing business with russia right now. and they really com. all right, we've also heard of it. i've heard about this uh economics, i believe, but he's going to be so high school quite recently. i think it was
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a last night's basically saying that i'm and, and this is a phase i've not heard before. so what about the bus migration class? what is that? what does that mean? i mean, people less they'll, you know what? i'll get a job somewhere else. but now i'm looking at russia. wow, business is great. maybe i should go back because i what i've, i've never heard of it. yeah. i was thinking about that is kind of what it means. it's kind of the growth is always greener aspect where you go, you there anything, hang on. it's not as good as it is, but time especially now with the economy growing as it is here in martha. it's also, oh, it's a high and it was russians coming back home because they've been penalized in a tight space. it could be by, by the west, in the places where they've invested money, bringing it back home and helping this country grow even stronger and stronger. now, a lot of questions are about minute class, the future for rush it. is it looking bright? it's looking very bright morales. i think, you know, we, if you, even if we look at a bank foreign banks, but less the money here in russia being taxed on that money. so rusty is just waiting on each side. if you, if they still have assets here, ross is going to tax and totally legally and totally by the law. well, the do you,
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again for me to rush, the masses of this is on the, but i'm going to leave it back with them on. so you can do with the sizes the funds are going to be looking for the a wow that route some of this and these are as always the target company didn't check out on so you don't come a little so rudy interesting. so you say i'm, we'll be back in about 30 minutes. the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle.
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western relates endlessly declare. they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the pro stock in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in kitchener. we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and cashmere. and until then we crossed to mohammed mirandi. he was a professor at the university of touring and quite filming prospect prose. and the fact that means you can tell me any time you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st. so you're, you're a resident in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became
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a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution or am i getting something wrong? this is the constitution of the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. i to, peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself a lining with people that i swore i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod lettering adler with jerry nod lower. who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality is a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violate or excuse me, probations against the thought. the for the age of the bad you semitism is against the notion of, of free speech. it's unconstitutional. i just heard you're not gonna believe this from the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit,
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a woman say that she's concerned about i. d is being discussed on campuses to deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, heads, and bands associated with terrors. i'm going to get is this a coffee? yeah, i think he what is happening? one minute we have the n y, b, d, r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about id ation. thought, and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police i worry about is the 5 digit land these? because if you watch fox news, oh my god, because what, what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly. mohammed and so then again, you know, there were, uh, the rules based order. uh, they liked to echo, but look what they did to the students that uh, the university of california, los angeles. they allowed vigil land teeth. they come in and clear those students
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using extreme force. and from what i understand, the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, as you know, what is amazing is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york, on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on in u. c. l. a while people in the united states are in the east coast may be a sleep. people in asia are watching the video video and he's crush the protestors. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they pretend to support, and not only is this rule based order,
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very different from what we are told that was supposed to be to be. but the united states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street, making sure that nothings left well, it certainly is the same robbery as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide, what's called? it's called them what they should be called. okay. pro test. we had the slaughter continue in cost is always very interesting. we said, all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backing to it whatsoever. what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the united states and breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like official them in the united states, the what the, what to do about a crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't get it. you can't
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make this stuff up. robert know you can't and it's kind of shocking to think that in the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the the ad type is real participants. visual be submitted. this is, this is and has for a long time because even before, it's couldn't been caught in a fight and lost the professors are afraid to talk about in your class. if they're talking about a colonialism, maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism if they say yes is. busy palestine, they can get in trouble for that. it makes students feel uncomfortable. well, if you're in university, you're going to get comfortable. sometimes it just comes with the territory because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu tell you, guy that states that they have just to, to squash these or crush these,
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these protests who is the leader of any other country, let alone one that's been declared. and a part that we're seeing by, by several very respectful human rights organizations to tell you lighted states how to deal with campus protests. this is actually, this is bizarre, this is unreal. it's likely fall down some, some rabbit holes somewhere. yeah. and we, and we have in the haven't learn any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes to international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite and ministration. urge the us to cut off is real. also a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration, se israel's actions do not comply with us. and international law means these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's, it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong lines. i even know where,
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where to start with or something. let me just do a couple of things out here. is this the same people, gentleman who, who, who and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protestors. many of these people were just standing there or they were part of a washington tour or the said, hey, what's all this noise next? week, you know, they're, they're, they're corralled and thrown into an underground, go log for the for god knows how long. and they argued against this. we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to meek and passive and hard. i'm not horrible isn't intellectually, but just the nicest. she's you're standing there being cooperate by the police and they said, well, she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part. the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before a self appointed spokesperson, an expert,
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the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service card had been discontinued and the can't get certain bottled water when they are get this protesting against har. ready. terrific. a starvation in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora data water. i mean, this is, i could, this is in say, and there's also can common to lead peaceful virility. your discussions never discussed, never mentioned by anybody in mainstream media can scrap to joe's and the palestinians talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah, it would be the interesting thing is, is that it seems to me that again, these protests are need to be covered. we're discussing them right now, but there is an offense of being organized against profit. and i think with this passage of this legislation, but center will go along with it. you know,
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of course this is just proforma, but they, they want to shut down any discussion and debate when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones. go ahead mom and but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when there's riley machine will also fail on the ground as it has already failed and causes a city in the north and elsewhere. what will happen in the united states? well, the students and other students remain quiet or well, the anger and discontent grow. and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do, what, what ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this? when they see on the one hand the united states is crushing descent when it's
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sending bugs to use c l a to beat and fat. are these students who as drew a guest, right? the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the the, the u. s. regime, they're protesting about what another regime is doing to, you know, to, to wipe out the policy, need people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof? i begin to, it's only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out tap, ron or mosque out, do they see that the united states as free and tap ron and mosque out as a for a terry and they don't see it that way. any more. why? because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the
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world has collapsed. right now when i speak. all i've recently, i had an interview with piers morgan. and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this matter. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so, but this is, i think the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up here as morgan because he had on the professor mirror showing me or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a host embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and a triple out. and it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube anyways. so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troops. ok, that's i, i think that's what foreshadowing what we're going to see. more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break,
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we'll continue our discussion on palestine state bar to the the the watching is a lot of somebody in this country to find the board. plenty of the store in this
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shed and i showed order for not imagine just the last, when i scan, when i am what i could catch at your desktop session. the national z m. no, that's just shiny or just is fun. you bon is born. you said, oh it's in the the, the, the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing palestine. the right, let's go to robert here. robert. it's very interesting. they, in the waiting times and comes to is real. it's always an exception, it's different uh the, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on a minute, nothing. yeah. who's campaign against the,
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obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia and went all through the middle east and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works out the way you expect it to. and they're trying and again, these people have no learning curve, and professor mirandi is absolutely right. their, their soft power of abilities are dissipating or it's gone. go ahead, robert. yes it, it never works because the united states, other western governments forget that people in different countries have loyalty to their countries. they have. busy that they want their, their governments to run, they don't want to be forced into some kind of a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953, i believe,
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was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop. and he will for doing 30 years. i believe it was until the people of iran river over to him and, and it's taught a government to their liking. now, any government has problems, the governors, issues there going to be some people that disagree with certain government policies doesn't mean the one over to the government. and they tell me, doesn't mean that they want a government forced by the united states to be, to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the uh forthcoming rasa innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody. and how the, this new law repressing dissent is going to play out in it. people who are protesting know that they're following all the rules that the government sets for their, their protest, the purchase is worth it's, it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to get 2 days. notice that they're gonna have a protest, they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's
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a waste of time. they might just will not bother. they're going to take action that is going to get them publicity and get what i'm well, i mean a rubber today. i agree with you. i mean, if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the student say this is what we're just sending into the abyss right now. line or, you know, you love words, you know, again, this whole phrase um, but from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea. but i can get into a lot of trouble. i probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. well, either a couple of things to do this is you, you, you talked about great words. i go back to the words of our senator daniel patrick
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moynihan, who brought above flexi nice, mediately, beloved occasion. one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people what's going on at least here, and they give an example of there was a senator who said, because there was a talk a bite and bringing folks over from gaza to the united states. oh no, no, no, we can do that way. my wife. well, because they're how much supporter and their id all the night. so i asked, and somebody said, you know, you're worried about that because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the fun to know, cartels in gaza, me, what are you talking about? it's like, do you know a whole lot again right now next they talk about ideology. i said, why wouldn't anybody be interested in the as of battalion and right sector and neo nazis and ukraine? you. so just stick with your program. i'll go along with you. but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way,
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i sound like the most unpatriotic only in america. could you pull this off where you could say the most blatantly loaded chris, hypocritical nonsense. and nobody will call you out because we don't know because remember in, in here how much gaza is real. but if this it's just gone low of term, what does managed to emulate line? oh it's, it's of liberalism, ok. and it's toxic and it can kill you and it certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed. one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a zine is presume it is run by a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it. okay. and what we have is design ization of the west. okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes, and it is, it is just turning the rest,
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the west. and uh, but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer boot town that 2 of this right of the machine, people are waking up to this fact. the reason why they're passing this law is speak is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how there's ravings and design this lobby, which by the way, is there more christian scientists, as we all know, then jewish scientists. and there are many scientists who are secular. so this, this has nothing to do with do days and many jews are completely against this genocide. and this really regime in the same is true with chris christians and others. but there's really, really doesn't care about the united states. it doesn't here. i oh yeah, is willing to sacrifice the credibility and the image of the united states for its own sake. there's really prime minister says crushed defense and
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a crush dissent. there's really redeem calls on the united states to silence these big these young people. and these people will be scientists. what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united image abroad. but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to a reality, which is almost ex, exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah, there because right. they realize that they are brave, but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are. cowards. ok. it's interesting. robert used to be up until october 7th. is it that should be the center of everything. it was, it was an important day, but there's a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world, particularly americans that are intentionally unimed and educated about this is that remember the phrase, it's complicated that was always it of,
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oh just because it's been going on along to its complement. that's no longer the case. people are being educated, they're educating themself. it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are. the fact, the idea that this is complicated is just a method spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the, the very obedient media for decades. it isn't complicated at all. it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are in trying and united nation step. united states has signed onto and united states as violate them rights as violate its own laws to lady law, for example, which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach a certain minimal standard of human rights. and here it is real, comes nowhere near close to that. there are other domestic laws that it, it violates there's a big complicate about this. this is not
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a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army, maybe no military whatsoever. and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not a war, it's not, it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades as israel has attempted with some success to a rates, palestine by stealing land. just. busy as a member of pal students and killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know, line one of the big problems about couldn't be controlling this narrative. what, what's going on in god's, in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have
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a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and. and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah, that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one, this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening to . i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i think he, oh my god, he makes sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election and donald trump's going to win this thing and if he ever thanks anybody, he'll say, i want to say joe biden. i want to thank this ridiculousness because gentlemen, what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey, that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know, we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in
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california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the sea is daily then within tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back to watch, out of $9068.00 order law and order next in chicago. look at what people doing is you idiots you saw we showed you. i don't know why. oh, i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the program with my home and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans and we have democrats here in there on the wrong these leaders are on the wrong side of history and i think that's what there's a class will be a societal class against the leads and got one minute go ahead. so i think that's a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly people across the board are
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going to see that trump will be no different than biden. and that is going to create even further at this illusion meant among americans. they will see increasingly that the united states is not a democracy. it's one a despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on almost everything, almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately the, you know, this is a way if it's the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find ourselves exactly in the same dreadful place. gentlemen, that's all the time we have one to thanks my guess is in kitchen or new york and, and come down. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc. you next time. remember prospect the
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make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not, we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way and say the the, the size of this our powers, right? please classroom students as you joined the american pro, passing them and say with you, listing them on the, in the end, supplies with it as well. so if you ever have it with is around says about itself pertaining western democracies all compromising their own values to support this in the government. because israel's interest draw the boundaries of western democracy

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