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surprised surprises the us that seems to destroy these other economies of their allies in order to continue with it. now it's fine for them to impose these sentences cuz it's not really hurting them. they've very far away from the problem . but the reality is that hudson their allies in a very significant uh weight of that a little bit less than kind of getting worried. and also i'm sure it will, these countries wish they could be doing business with roger right now. and they really com. all right, we've also heard of it. i've heard about this uh, economics agreement equal to his article quite recently. i think it was a last night's basically saying that i'm, i'm and, and this is the phrase i've not heard before. so what about the bus migration class? what is that? what does that mean? i mean, people less they'll, you know what? i'll get a job somewhere else. but now i'm looking at russia. wow, business is great. maybe i should go back because i what i've, i've never heard of it. yeah. obviously. right. that's kind of what it means is it's kind of the growth is always greener aspect where you go, you there and you thing hang on. it's not as good as it is by time, especially now with the economy growing as it is here in muster. it's also a high net worth russians coming back home because they've been penalized in
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a tax basically by, by the west, in the places where they've invested the money, bringing it back home and helping this country grow even stronger and stronger. now lots questions are about men and class, the future for russia. it, is it looking bright? it's looking very bright moran, i, i think, you know, if you, even if we look at a bang for an binds, but less than money. see it in russia being taxed on that money. so roughly is just waiting on each side. if you the, if they still have assets here, ross is going to tax and typically legally and totally by the law trying to send it over to the school. the fall side of the this, the devices to gather data about the newness of is scheduled to head bind to in about 2 months. the comprises of full distinct compose was 50 speed, a mission, a luna over to moon elanda, ascend the space of often reading low deal lambda. it said to punch. down in the boss falls side teresa on a livable from us,
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and that will target the apollo basin on the moon's fall side to go up to 2 kilograms, the mean and material which will then be transported to this. i sent miracle and routes on the open. so for the journey back to us, so you space agency need is have comment commended the missions it's complex to see the support from a satellite. most of the of the see it to facilitate communication within the next space off of a busy day here. that's all from me for today. as always, it's great to have your company. my colleague mike, unfortunately will be with you in about 20 minutes. so i did you all a very good take the the
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the hello in. welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter live out, western or leads endlessly declared. they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the prospect in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in the kitchen, or we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and cashmere. and until then we crossed to home and mirandi. he was a professor at the university of doran,
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quite gentleman, crossed by pearl, isn't the fact that means you can tell me any time you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st here, you're our resident in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution or i might getting something wrong to. this is the constitution of the united states and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. i, peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself aligning with people that i for i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod lettering adler with jerry adler, who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality, is a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violent or excuse me,
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probations against the slot the for the i the age of the bad you semitism is again, the notion of a breeze please. it's unconstitutional. i just heard you're not gonna believe this from the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit, a woman say that she's concerned about i d is being discussed on campuses that deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, head oh, and bands associated with terrorism. really good. is this the co fee? yeah. i think he what is happening? one minute we have the n y, b, d r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about id ation. thought, and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police. i worry about it's the 5 digit land to use because if you watch fox news, oh my god and because what,
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what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly, mohammed into that. and again, you know, there were uh, the rules based order. uh, they liked to echo, but look what they did to the students that uh, the university of california, los angeles. they allowed vigilant ease to come in and clear those students using extreme force. and from what i understand, the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, as you know, what is amazing is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on and you see as a wild people in the united states are in the east coast. maybe a sleep people in asia are watching the video,
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visual aunties crush the protesters. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they pretend to support, and not only is this rule based order, very different from what we are told that was supposed to be to be. but the united states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street, making sure that nothing's left as well. it certainly is the same robbery as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide? what's called? it's called them what they should be called. okay. protests. we had the slaughter continue in god. so it's always very interesting. was it all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backing to it whatsoever? what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the
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united states for breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like officialdom in the united states to what, what to do about a crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't get it. you can't make this stuff up, robert. know you can't and it's kind of shocking to think that in the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the the ad type is real participants visual. be able to submit a, this is, this is and has for a long time, because even before it's kind of being caught in a 5 and last, the professors are afraid to talk about in your class. if they're talking about a colonialism, maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism if they say yes is. busy palestine, they can get in trouble for that, and it makes students feel uncomfortable. well,
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if you're in university, you're going to get a comfortable, sometimes it just comes with the territory because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu tell him tonight, it states that they have to, to, to squash these or crush these, these protests who is the leader of any other country, let alone one that's been declared. and a part that we're seeing by, by several very respectful human rights organizations to tell you lighted states how to deal with campus protests. this is actually, this is bizarre, this is unreal. it's likely fall down some, some rabbit holes somewhere. yeah. and we, and we have in the haven't learn any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes to international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite administration or the us to cut off is real. also
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a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration say israel's actions do not comply with us and international law. mean these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's, it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong. line. i'll, even though we're, we're just starting with this. i'm going to be just do a couple of things out here in the same people, gentlemen who, who, who and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protesters? many of these people were just standing there, or they were part of a washington tour or the said, hey, what's all this noise next week? you know, they're, they're, they're corralled and thrown into an underground go rod for the, for god knows how long. and they argued against this, we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to meek and passive and heart? i'm not horrible, isn't intellectually, but just the nicest she's you're standing there being cooperate, why? the police?
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and they said, well, she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part, the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before a self appointed spokesperson, an expert, the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service cards had been discontinued, and they can't get certain bottled water when they're get this protesting against har. ready. terrific. a starvation in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora data water. i mean, this is, it is in say, and there's also can cognitively peaceful, virility or discussions never discussed. never mentioned by anybody. you may see media constructive jose, uh, a palestinian talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah,
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it would be the interesting thing is, is that it seems to me that again, these protests are need to be covered. we're discussing them right now. but there is a defense of being organized against profit, and i think with this passage of this legislation, but then it will go along with it. you know, of course this is just proforma but they, they want to shut down any discussion in that debate. when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones go ahead moment. but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when this riley machine will also fail on the ground as it has already failed and causes city in the north and elsewhere. what will happen in the united states? well, the students and other students from being quiet or well,
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the anger and discontent grow. and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do? what will ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this? when they see on the one hand the united states is crushing descent when it's sending funds to you, c. l a to beat and bat are these students who as your guest, right, the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the the, the u. s. regime. they're protesting about what another regime is doing to you know, to, to wipe out the palestinian people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof uh, begin is only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out
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to ron or moscow, what do they see? the, the united states as free and tap ron and mosque out as a for a tarion. they don't see it that way. any more. why? because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the world has collapsed. right now when i speak. i recently, i had an interview with piers morgan, and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this matter. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so. but this is, i think the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up here? is morgan because he had on the professor mirrors chime or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a hoss embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and hey,
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tripled out. and it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube, that he was so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troop. okay? that's i, i think that's a portion. how do we, what we're going to see, more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here and we're gonna go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on powers by state bar to the water is part of the the employee would post isn't the deepest view of us and building the word part.
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is it something deeper, more complex might be present there? let's stop without cases. let's go products. as the, as far as the in law lives as the comfortable the product was up in there. so sounds good. just so basically of course we need your last name was needed. read it was can, will be used for the election. we have support for someone who is this we would show new people to the
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the the welcome ex, across stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter level. mind you were discussing palestine the right, let's go to robert here. robert. it's very interesting. they, in the waiting times it comes to is real. it's always an exception. it's different . uh they, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on about nothing. yeah. whose campaign against the, obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia and went all to the middle east and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works out the way you expect it to. and they're trying it
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again, these people have no learning curve, and professor mirandi is absolutely right. they're their soft power of abilities are dissipating or it's gone. go ahead, robert. yes it, it never works because united states, otherwise, some governments forget that people in different countries have loyalty to their countries. they have a. busy that they want their, their governments to run, they don't want to be forced into some kind of a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953, i believe, was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop. and he will for doing 30 years. i believe it was until the people of iran river a ritual. hm. and it's not a government to their liking. now any government has problems, any government issues. they're going to be some people that disagree with certain government policies. doesn't mean the one over to the government and they tell it doesn't mean that they want
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a government forced by the united states to be to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the 4th, come me ross innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody. and how the, this new bar repressing descent is going to play out in the people who are protesting. know that they're following all the rules that the government sets for their, their protest. the protest is worthless. it's, it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to have 2 days. notice that they're gonna have a protest. they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's a waste of time, which is will not bother. they're going to take action. that is going to get them published today and get with them. well, i mean it, robert, say i agree with you. i mean, if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the students say this is what we're just sending into the abyss right now. they're litle, you know, you love words, you know, again,
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this whole phrase from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea. but i can get them a lot of trouble. they probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. tell you a couple of things to do. this is you, you, you talked about great words. i go back to the words of our senator daniel patrick moynihan, who brought above flux the most nearly pill of occasion. one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people what's going on at least here, and to give an example, there was a senator who said, because there was a talk of bite and bringing folks over from gaza to the united states. oh no, no,
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no, we can't do that way my why? well, because their home, my supporter and their id all the and i so i asked and somebody is it's, you know, you're worried about that because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the sentinel cartels in gaza and you go to what are you talking about as a whole lot again, right now next they talk about ideology. i said, why wasn't anybody interested in the as all battalion and right sector and neo nazis in ukraine? you so just stick with your program. i'll go along with you, but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way, i sound like the most unpatriotic only in america. could you pull this off where you could save the most? blatantly no, to chris, hypocritical nonsense. and nobody will call you why, because we don't know because remember in, in here how much gaza is real. but if this is just gumbo of term,
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what does managed to lionel it's, it's a liberalism, ok, and it's toxic and it can kill you. and it's certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed, one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a sinus, presume it is run by a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it. okay. and what we have is design ization of the west. okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes, and it is, it is just trying the rest, the west and the but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer brutality of this right of the machine. people are waking up to this fact. the reason why they're passing this law is speak is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how this ravings and design this lobby, which by the way,
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is there more christian scientists, as we all know, then jewish scientists. and there are many scientists who are secular, so this, this has nothing to do with do days. and many jews are completely against this genocide in this riley regime. and the same is true with chris christians and others. but there's really where she doesn't care about the united states. it doesn't care. i oh, yeah, she is willing to sacrifice the credit ability and the image of the united states for its own sake. there's really prime minister says crushed defense and a crushed is that there's really redeem calls on the united states to silence these pick these young people. and these people will be side is what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united image abroad. but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to
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a reality, which is almost x, the exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah. there was because by they realize that they are brave, but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are. cowards. ok. it's interesting. robert used to be up until october 7th. is it that should be the center of everything? it was. it was an important day, but there's a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world, particularly americans that are intentionally unimed and educated about this is a, remember the phrase, it's complicated that was always due to me. oh, just because it's been going on along to its complement. that's no longer the case . people are being educated, they're educating themselves, it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are. the fact, the idea that this is complicated is just a method spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the very obedient media for
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decades. it isn't complicated at all. it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are and try and united nations that united states has signed onto. and united states as violate them rights as violating its own laws to lady law, for example, which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach a certain minimal standard of human rights, is here it is what comes nowhere near close to that there are other domestic laws that it, it violates because of a complicated about, this is not a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army. navy, no military whatsoever. and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not
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a war. it's not, it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades as israel has attempted with some success to erase palestine by stealing land, displacing member of palestinian and killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know, line one of the big problems about getting to controlling this narrative. what, what's going on in god's, in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and, and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah, that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one . this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening
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to. i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i think he oh my god, he makes sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election, and donald trump is going to win this thing. and if he ever thanks anybody, he'll say, i wanna say joe biden. i want to think this ridiculousness because gentlemen, what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey, that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know, we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the sea is daily then within tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back towards out to $9068.00 order law and order next in
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chicago. look at what people doing is you idiots use social the final. i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the problem with my home and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans and we have democrats here in there on the wrong these leaders are on the wrong side of history and i think that's why there's a class. it will be a societal class against the lead. so you've got one minute go ahead. so i think that's a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly people across the board are going to see that trump will be no different than biden. and that is going to create even further disillusionment among americans. they will see increasingly that the united states is not a democracy. is one of despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on
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almost everything, almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately the, you know, this is a way if it's the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find ourselves exactly in the same dreadful place. gentlemen, that's all the time we have one infect, my guess is not in kitchen or new york and into that. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc you next time. remember, across the, [000:00:00;00] the, the world's largest democracy votes, the rest of the planet watchers in an emerging multi polar world. india's voice matters. what, who will be the power behind it?
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