to the what brought you to rush? what point did you decide to come join this such a military operation split, start in 2014. everybody seen it worldwide. the events in new, great, and the great size, i call it, which is what it was, but it wasn't no peaceful revolution. the events that followed was the systematic murder of ethnic russian people. and then of course, most of that was called film. it was how to define it wasn't shown in the mainstream media back home were in the west, but of course i came across it the videos of what happened in odessa, the trade union building, whether the band error or the fascist lumps, innocent civilians and treating women and in the building set on fire, killed the move uh khaki where they set buses on 5 can and all the civilians inside

of them. that of course the nets, carpet bombing it from the sky, drop in phosphorus, these kind of things. well, why seen in the videos were plentiful? you know, that originally started the idea in my head, the. something's wrong. yeah. i got to stop it, a go to help. then of course the idea in my head was i was compressed in this simply because my tax money was going towards the arms, which will give them to these a binder ice and these flashes. so i couldn't sit the can sit there and take it, and then of course, seeing the testimony of, of the family and the friends of these victims, you know, crying and breaking down and seeing the houses hope was destroyed and a burg my how so that's why i decided to come, i couldn't take it in the, you know, that was basically hit for me. at what point did you decide that you,

you need to come, you need to participate to take part in this uh, 2022. so it was, it was some time before i decided because of course, the idea is these crazy, right? so it took me a while to comes to this was the idea of that's what i wanted to do. but 2022. when the russian involvement happened, and then of course, the escalated beyond people's comprehension was the last one. i decided that i was actually going to do it and i started planning and preparing to come over and fight for the coals. have you ever had any doubts about whether you took the right decisions? no, not so. soon as i landed, i mean, i had nothing but i mean, the russian people in general as welcome me. i've had nothing but good experiences and that you may use now and again, you missed you, family, you miss home. and sometimes maybe those kind of those concrete pin,

but actual doubts with me actually doing this. fighting for the dumbass or russia for russians. no to 0 though, and i sacrifice the lot by coming over here. but i will do what over again tomorrow . 10 times over. you know, in your opinion, what do you think uh, you've come over as a volunteer. what do you think is the difference between the volunteer and the mercenaries that come over for the grant inside money? simply i had no idea of, of the concept of money. i volunteered to me was, i was voluntary. money didn't come into it and if somebody would come in to out of state home and earn more money, you know, it was the, the idea of the simple, simple explanation is ideological for volunteer on the russian side. listen, that's my experience of coming across a volunteer is where as you go to the great inside that, that paid sealy amounts of money and is obvious that that for the money or that

that for the adventure of it. and that, that because some of them, the psychopaths and they like killing cause in that that's my understanding of it. and i don't seem to get that from the volunteers on the, on the russian side from the west. now the british government has been talking about you and others come over as traders to the ridge government. what do you think of what they're saying? as far as labeling people like yourself traitors? ways is a is a deliberate tactic that's for sure. the traits, the woods, assume the are the fights and against my own country, which officially and technically, i know it's because brett's end. russia, adults, it was released officially. any way? i don't know is it deliver employee? i think they want to destroy my reputation. they want to destroy the idea as a bridges and citizen coming over to russia as a volunteer. i just think is

a load of rubbish. and i think the carts, assassination of me in the process is to maybe stop of citizens of having this similar, well the same way they have to come over and do the same thing, which there is people that do want to do. i know that because i've spoken to people, you know, isn't of a tactic of, as anyone find for russia is going to be a criminal, a drug addicts, and alcoholics. but worse, you see what they did. so julie inside is just simply for reporting the truth. they may live in a sex offender, right? even though he's clearly innocent. so i wasn't above the per se, but he's more when they start doing this kind of cards, assassination, or the psychopaths spot coming out of the woodwork for a difference. if i move i difference, friends of i the for us personally is, is like i was that's back from me. but what kind of mentality is, uh, did you run into as far as people in the u. k. before you came over here for their product of the education system that's for sure. the past 10 years or so

. the west has just been in bach and on a very busy course of events. it's ok breaking down the traditional families that doesn't exist anymore. hardly any one, i know that parents and that will get together mothers have got fruitful kids of free for different 5 years. so that's kind of and then the o g, b, t q, traditional, family values, conservative values which most people would consider normal. and the say a breakdown of that, so it's kind of like society is di and is this become in the most just the general say, you know, i see that happening. um so yeah, the last 10 years of open goodwill. and you can, you can really see it in real time. so that's kind of, is that what you mean by your question? yes, that, that then as far as this concept,

the people actually understand anything with the conflict. and do they have enough knowledge to understand anything about the conflict? was that most people are so busy in their lives where i can survive effectively. they just watch what they see on tv, read what they read and newspapers. so no, i would say overall 90 percent of people die encountered in the u. k. in terms of this situation in the past. you know, well between russia and ukraine, the eva pro ukraine in full, very fancy, russian is a very nice. so that's kind of live encountered and i don't think it's that anything is going to get better anytime soon. but then of course you do have that 10 percent which see the reality of what's going on. have you been able to change anybody's mind? do you think it will be able to change anybody's mind as confidence of this and then so absolutely no, i can think of one example where minus to change anyone's mind on the if any think

you saw the show and then fax, the slideshow, and then videos they go into complete denial and if anything, cache property hobbins the original opinion on being per ukrainian and mc russian. so now i've not been able to change anyone's mind. so then anyone this kind of a political and they still kind of side with the for ukrainian calls because of what they see on the tv in the newspapers. but as i said, there is at 10 percent like me, which see what's going on. see the, the evil of demonic forces that play in the west ends. you know, as a result, they do support russia, but very few and far between. because if you, if you actively and openly support russia in, in the last name brisson, you can lose your job. you know. and then of course, you've also got a journalist, british journalist, when, as i said, were for what happened. it was happen in ukraine. they simply told the truth,

they have the houses sees, bank account sees the keys to be in pro boots in stages. so you can't win. you know, that make it live very uncomfortable. if you side with russia or you at least try and expose the truth of what's going on, there's also the u. k 4 and listen to that there been talk for several of, uh, british politicians about using that to arrest here. uh, what do you have to say of as, as far as well, i think it was uh the, the, the colonel uh code. oh, richard can right. right. both about that in the press. i mean, the one thing i would say to him directly is, i think he needs to worry about the war crimes that he's committed in iraq and afghanistan. rather than trying to get on my case about the situation. but in terms of that for, and at least when acts, my understanding is, if i go abroad and then join the army of a nation at war against a peaceful nation,

ukraine, which we all know is a load of rubbish. not technically makes me a terrorist, and that's actually technically makes me a little criminal. so if i were to go back home, i'm under no illusion i'd, i'd be arrested not face a long time in jail for now where you came over here. oh, what kind of attitude did you run into what people see somebody coming from the u. k. to join the russian side in russian? i think uh originally, especially when those, for instance, when i went to a ship, i'm a recruitment sense. i. one of the offices will ask that me when i purchased my uh, brace passport and it wasn't, you know, i don't mean life was in. he was laughing at me one into 5, a rush. i think he just couldn't believe or comprehend in his mind that someone from britson have come over to fight for them. so i think uh, in some ways is almost like a circus attraction. but then when they realize serious and the actually on my nasa,

the reasons the russians are fight him. i think he the there is respect that i don't think i haven't met too much. maybe a little bit of suspicion because of the british nationality, but then quite quickly, once you get to know these people and they get to know you and they know you left for the right reasons, the russians are the most welcome in problem and people there is you know, especially in the media, comrades, you know, a separate russian engineer. so 90 percent of the work we do is reconstruction will conjunction with that that there's 10 percent of us being on the, on the front lines kremlin. i have in one, i remember when we originally got to crampton, i a, in the back of the cameras and you can the bottoms go and all for the odd salary and, and that was quite hairy because that was the 1st was the 2nd time. well, you know, you sometimes you question the most highly because of the problems ago and often these i'd say the rachelle is going off a minute, then then not far. you can feel the vibrations, go for your body, free

a chest and sometimes you can leave you breathless. but the, the one time which was very space. scary i'm, i'm, i'm not gonna lie. i won't use it. as i said, i'm just a simple civilian was the 1st and the 2nd night the i go into the dumbass account came on to fire and we had to evacuate that. that's how close they were. so those situations make you question your own mortality, you know, sometimes will tell us if there was one p less than that, you could take away from your experience since you've gotten what would add one pos and be the most difficult question. sort of up with you on the spot i, i suppose, i don't know if is if is it less than per se, but is finally been able to stand on my own c. c and be independent thinking

impacts and wise in terms of i'm able to forge my impasse in life, which in the u. k. i never felt i could as language when a barrier for you. uh, coming from august which is a uh most i speak only english that on the learn a secondary language. is that much. uh, we did the speak russian when you got here or how's devolution been? uh, as far as communication my, my russian is, is very small. i'm trying to learn the language. i just find it very hard. sartain, in my head is an ongoing process. i wish that i could be faster in learning the language, but we kind of make it work is, is sometimes it can be challenging initially it was but then of course, you find a way. so if pigeon english pension russian sign language, you kind of things, they work out quite quickly and then of course he will spend and all this time with you call me as you can find the common language. if there is one thing you could

have changed in this old trip, this whole process that you've gone through would have been i don't think there's any think i would change simply because that it would, over my experience, you know, i haven't had many negative experiences here. is a, maybe, maybe the one thing that i could change is that there's been times where the it can be little late, you know, especially with a language barrier naturally. and you may be excluded from half the conversation with people generally if you don't speak russian to, that's maybe the negative experience, but maybe that as well as you know, you miss you missed home comforts, you know, friends, family, that's probably the only thing that's really both of the times, you know, no, it's no secret that ukraine is in the retreat, and then we're moving forward up and down the front and ukraine's desperately trying to move lice people and get more people. the front lines. do you think of the, at some point, nato nato troops are going to come in and fight for your grain? or i think it's pretty clear that nato troops already the the term sheet that comes

to mind. you know, when that pulled out of the me, with the intelligence sent over. so if they're of a cool, there's pros with an i ability for them. but as, as you well know as well, the journal as well. no, that's tens of thousands, oppose you for the thousands of americans, for the hundreds of british. and then of course, you use go over the train as an instructors over the end of the guys of, of the training. so that already the, if you focus on the unofficial war what i will, i don't think it would happen. and i think uh, actually in the next proxy would probably be poland. so i think if you're going to have an issue with, with nato i, i, i think they would use poland next, rather than going head to head with russia because they couldn't win. what do you have to say for any other guys that are thinking about coming over, fight for that you create inside simply open your eyes for one of the evidence is there. if you want to see it. i mean,

if you want to go 5 for ukraine and then they've gone home in a wooden box based on, well, there's an audiology, so i would uh recommend, they wouldn't do such a thing, but of course they've got their reminds and they're going to do what they're going to do, but what, what have you noticed over the last couple months as far as and being on the ground moving uh with the front lines with the conditions and moving forward. as far as i can see, in terms of other than the, the one incident that i told you about where we had to evacuate the kind of boughs that was early as a temporarily temporarily. and then of course the russians and pushed back. so now and again, you might get a tactical withdrawal for a few kilometers, but that's if that's considered a victory for ukrainians and then afterwards they lose that ground anyway. then then, you know, they, they really need some help. but no, i don't see any of the pool. i see is victory. you know those areas where we've been. and then of course ahead of us,

the front line troops of completely obliterated the ukrainians where they have to withdrawal. and then of course, what happens then is as engineers, we go forward to make camps and we'll have you. so my, my understanding, my, and my experience is the i the, i see nothing but the craniums getting push back, considering the possibility that you would have to fight nato troops. what do you use your stance on that? are you prepared to meet that kind of challenge, or do you have any reservations? no, none of cool say it's any kind of fight. and what do you put in your life at risk is, is he makes you apprehensive in some ways, especially when you that, but you know, this, this idea of the nato troops and this some kind of secret weapon is going to turn the tide of the war they could all get involved at this point in that, so we're not going to win their own russian stores that must i simply why they wouldn't win. but find my fellow countryman, per se,

if i were to come up against the i wouldn't hesitate and i know that sounds again. the word traits of will be, comes to mind when people have me say that for schools i'm fighting for a cause is audiology for me. so whatever they want me to do, i'm going to do. so my 1st ability. so now i'm already i'm, it doesn't really bother me if, if i come up against nato troops, per se, is a, and i sounds kind of cut. so i was kind of gloss a like, i'm not above a base. like i more the head of fights and in the war, it makes no difference whether it's a ukrainian flag or nato flag, you know. right. understand? well, as far as your family do you think you're going to, any of them will come to see you here? are you going to be able to see them again? well, for they want to see you comes, uh, comes in terms of the fact that a lot of my friends, i'm never going to say again, you know, i can't go home to any funeral was a wedding policy. so you know, my children's birthdays. i think as my children get older. busy they probably would

come out and see me in, in russia. so my family have said that they want to come and see me in russia. but then of course, saying it and she doing, it seems different matter. so i don't know, as far as i'm concerned, i'm moving russia and i'm finding the life and it is kind of like i'd accepted the idea of already that maybe that might not happen. so i might not get to see my friends or family. so the british for us labeled you as, as traitor, as we said before. and they said that uh your family to sonya. um, what do you say that was how much of that is true? how much of that is? uh, yellow journalism, is it call it? well, it is partly true, but it's, it's not any information that they have claimed. i've been pretty open with that on my say for me to is in terms of um, my, my journey so to speak. i have my family have this, i me some of my friends of the so mean they would speak to me. and the simple reason for that is that not really political people. they sit down in front of the

tv after holidays work eating the dinner. and they see the news and they kind of believe what they see on that, which is, you know, most people in most countries that's kind of the case. you know, so they've kind of, um, took offense to me coming over here on the list which, which family members and you know to which, um, which people did it is the have to show me. but yeah, i would say if i have them, if i'm gonna have to, so me for coming over to russia the, the most painful aspect of it is i now i don't see my children as a result. you know, right. understand the day know that you were coming over or is it a surprise? it was a fact though it was a surprise. i mean you probably maybe 2 people knew and they were like personal friends, which still support me. uh. but no one else knew out to be kept up top secret, because if it wasn't, and then i would've been it out of the country girls detained as it was when i was in london, apple under the terrorism act. but of course then there was no evidence the,

the i was doing any wrong doing. so they had to release me cuz of course i was going to rush or on holiday, you know, so waste. so you are flying the rush on the holiday as far as i knew, and they detained you, or they are under the section 7 and terrorism i to, for like, free for hours and then they let me go and i got my flight just in time is that something they do for everybody, or is that something that well, you got picked out the crowd. they don't do that to everybody, but of course i don't know why they did that to me may maybe they were aware of my political leanings so that, that's basically the only thing that i can think of if they knew that i was pro russian. and then of course, i think that was probably the reason they pulled manual into the office. what do you do in while you go in there for these different questions they were asking me, but again, no evidence of any wrong doing. so the i'm so letting me get on the flight to, to come to russia. and that's why i did, which illustrated because a single one does not, or the u. k is not officially a war with the russian any of us. that's in any sense. and at the same time,

you have the freedom to make your own decisions, to, to choose your own side. but you got pulled out because of your readings. i think, i think that's probably good qualified, imagine when it comes to the security services, any british status wouldn't go into russia. that kind of is, is kind of going to come up on the system or why they go and that for some, maybe you might get a little investigation into your name. i don't know why they did it, but of course if i was going to key of none of that would happen, right. which is quite how i run it. it is ironic. is it a, uh, what do you say as far as the terrorism that the, the regime and key, if that's been the sponsor progress city, other terrorist attacks with a desk or on the, i mean this is a, you can see with, with the situation especially in moscow and then of course, that drone attacks into russian territory. and then of course, probably mocking places in belgrade, is the last froze of

a desperate regime. i think, of course, is disgusting because these innocent people again murdered in names. and what i'll do, i would like, or i can say really is i, i condemn that. and all that's gonna happen is that just going to get stronger response and it's just going to when will quicker to be for now, does any of the come out in the british press? the british people see anything associated with that, with the crock, a city, or with any of the bombings in belgrade or in the den, yes, belgrade, and, and that's not really of that. and if they try and blame russia for doing it for bombing themselves, it's got the, the, the attack in the, the attack in, in most go was televised in the west. but of course my, my understanding from people back home is day was, is i make a terrorist that did it. and of course you crate and have played no part. and i suppose in a way, even though i know these things, the west side of loans is like sometimes that they are in your head. you know,

so i, i come to russian. i think actually of what they said. this is not true. but if anything comes to the complete opposite, he's not only not sure as completing fake, completely follows a natural fact. i feel free a, in russia than i do in the united kingdom, which may sound was odd to some people. but to me, that's my experience. you know, you know, and i've heard in my direction, i've heard of the other people that i know from the west that came over the usual accusation is you're being, you're being pulled around where you're knows you're not seeing the real truth. what would you say to that? i mean i these people to read in newspapers and watching tv. i'm living there, you know, that's, that's the difference. you know, i can be very abrasive at times. you know, so if, if there's things that i see that i'm not happy with, i'll say i don't have those experiences with offices combined as a few incidences. when i was unhappy i spoke to them approach them and they resolved that instantly. so i don't know being hood, wait

a few little issues i did have which is minor issues. it's probably not even relevant to the conversation. but my point being is i was able to remedy these situations quite quickly. being hoodwinked, being on some so i mean, you know, i don't know what to say to that is this complete rubbish. like if i was being, if i was being would wait until would be doing these interviews? no, great, i'm pretty sure about the press gang to the front and nobody really speaking to me . no, i, this is what i going to say here, eva. i come to russia to fight for the on best buy are in the drug addicts. i'm an alcohol, they come to criminal, you know, this is, this is what they do when it goes when that doesn't work and people can see the national work and they then start with this nonsense, like i'm being told weights and the next in the papers bill clinton stage 2 things for which you know, they still have not already anyway of those. is there anything you'd like to tell us anything more before we end the interview?

anything but any message that you want to give to your family? anybody else is going to be listening to this? watching you mainly to the bridge people. that's a full inquiry and on the government, the support ukraine is. is a loss closed loan is a loss, cause is a, is, is the wrong cause. you know, you're going over that you'll hear murder and people, different british soldiers which ago know vanessa of and i don't know what reasons they may go for doing that. but my, my imagination would, i imagine that it would be money. and the fact that probably psychopaths and they like the idea of go in to, to final. so well they need to do is lay down that guns because they've only a problem. they will no quarrel with russia out. there's no reason for those to fight for ukraine. you know, the fascist regime with openly simple band era. and if they don't believe me, the people back home, i mean in terms of maybe watching this or read in the newspapers or whatever. you

know, for a quick google search will show you the specials about there, and i will show you the ukraine, you know, they have a national holiday after band there and they'll just bond arrow. so the of a fascist that with members of the organization of ukrainian nationalists, i think it was cool. there you and so yeah, there's no quarrel. so i, i, you know, i want the bridge of soldiers to put their guns down, go back home. i'd like to thank you. thank you for your time and for your honesty and openness and for the audience, i think the audits are really, really appreciated, which you have to say. thank you. well, i appreciate the opportunity. thank you again, the the, the,

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