chrissy for the rest of the planet watchers in an emerging multi polar world. india's voice matters, but who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react the hello, and welcome to cross dog boards on peter labelle. here we discuss them real news, background, the camera and, and nato are doubling down on ukraine and or anti is really protests on campus. a significant, how do they compare with previous bouts of student activism? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod counselor of the capital which can be found on youtube and locals and america . yes, we have martin jay, he's an award winning journalist and commentator,

right general and cross type rules and effect, that means can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george and budapest. there was a pattern here developing george every time the president of france, a menu of mcgraw's, speaks to the economist. he causes a lot of mist yet. okay. any shatter is that, that claim that nato is completely locks that unit by because every time he speaks to the economists, he gets a lot of other nato members, important ones like b, u, k. it disagrees with him. so what did he say this time? the 2 major takeaways were um, and this is about the introduction of french troops or nato troops. never really clear to me what the translator should make that clear, but he doesn't. um, so nato troops are french troops with inter ukraine, if ukrainian lines were breaking. well, they are breaking. okay,

so the 2nd one is if you give requests, so i have to read a request for assistance. i just have to wonder it is mister only have his phone disconnected because i think they would have called by now. george, what do you draw up? and this will talk about david cameron, who should have disappeared from public life forever, but the fact. so let's talk about the color pers, for us today, right the bit. it's a very have scratching experience. 11 has one been listening to these interviews with back thrown because he expounds at great length without ever really explaining what he means. so he declares that, oh, well, he wants these introduction of, of, as you say, it's not clear with his french troops, old native truth. i assume you would like nato chose, but as a backup, just in case he doesn't get the nato troops that he just says french troops. well, because he wants to create strategic ambiguity. it so that he wants pro 10 uh to be

uncertain in his own mind. what he wants to do and then he said, and then he just it by side by side. oh yeah. but um, you know, with the, we've been putting all these limits on board we've done in the past, but tolkien has no limits on what he does. which of course is complete nonsense because the boot in a shown himself to be extremely limited in his goals in the ukraine. and then he says, as you say, well, if you bring in lines of breaking, which is what it, what does he mean by that? like breaking now. so for those, as you say, is that so we have a zalinski aust full of french troops and he said book so far he hasn't dos. okay, well, how about tomorrow he's gonna use go to us. what do you, what are you going to do then? so he thinks that he's being very cute here. i think, oh, i'm creating some of these. you can do. it's a, you know,

food and now there's no wonder what, what i'm going to do. and that's a and that's a good thing for us, but it really isn't. because now he's now said it's several times and he's got to be eventually cold up on it. you're gonna just keep blah say without getting cold up on your bluff. jeffrey alarm, you said you're gonna be good and strategic confusion are 2 different things. you know, martin? well, i think, you know, we've seen enough of hollywood builds that mean, if you go into a bar and you want to pick a fight, you better not be bluffing. you better be prepared to fight. i think that this is the confusion, big mac chrome is a sending out a not only within the natural world, but addressing the russians. it seems like confusion not in beauty to me. yeah, i think um, what was that nickel? i'm so you said a couple of years ago when describing they said that it was brain dead i think is really to bring to know it took now that he's indulging in. i let you know me, the soul speeches, the sort of chops that he has with jealous of this sort of coal censor done isn't,

isn't that, you know, you have to publish what he says if your economy is solely or you used to take out full page in the toilets and the tunnel girlfriend and the front edition, the and, and also longer because he really believes that he is a lovely to hear when he believes that he is a little icon and the anglo saxon wisdom weld. i'm the cause isn't and that's really the problem, you know, and that's why you need to keep doing this because it's an idea that he has that he's a world leader and he has that kind of implants. and what's really going on there, you know, is this really serious? you know, you mentioned them big us see, i think is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. not really much of it make sense talking about the russians breaking through the printed lines. that would be the printing and lines that don't exist because ukrainians took the money from the americans to build this so called national line, but they didn't actually build it in the end. so what's the, what's the ones that have, you know, breaking sort of a printed lines, but you know, what's really going on, i've written, it might have totals and painted before on the show about these mac chrome polemic

. you know, this is that some digital realty about starting up a little bit. and what do you really want to do? is skim, got a number of a human mistake in particular hungry into thinking that look, if you don't sign off on the 100000000000 dollar packets that we've got in the pipeline from day. so, you know, new blocks that we're just going to be a massive failure for, for the west of the lease. if it doesn't go through, if you, if you don't sign off on that, then we can result of this. and you being in the region, you know, you being a, on the boat or you're going to be really at the, one of the countries. it's going to be a hit, the hardest if we start to go back to the same amount of mess. this is not a mess that should the russians, it's a message to other nato members. yeah. if you don't, you're sure you know that. and then george, i mean it's also public opinion that he needs to look like a leader or something like that. and you know, it's still championed in his inner motor par to george. i mean, he was doing,

i mean, i just, i mean they do, they both are small that i mean that, that works at least in here. okay. that's good. you know, i, i think so. um, but they also, um, i hear that they gave you, peter alluded to it the other day. there is a um, a desire on the pots of uh, your ups leaders and that the, all, this includes my crown, but we're still left on the line and use that barrell to crack down on the european freedom of speech as much as possible. and generally the freedom in europe, and what better opportunity, here's the then where the state or rule. and lena bedbug has already said, you know, we are a boy with russia. so there is a, a vested interest among europe that leads to whip up wolf of a to justify you know, the various crackdowns on um, on social media, on free expression that they already have in the pipelines. i mean, we will about the digital services. i could be you as adoptive that constantly

applying pressure against the social media. this is the best opportunity for it. so, um, you know that there is obviously that, that aspect of it. but they vision macros problem to still, if you of now said this over and over again. and that's at some point you're going to be on the whole, they gonna have, they use, the resiliency is going to come to you. and you know, all the, the, you know, basically, policy makers all the same things like they come to you and say, well, this is the opportunity, you know, we go, we've got a real problem on our hands. and, and this is somebody gives a board also the game, the other day, if rusher wins in ukraine, then we are on the switch where europe is on the threat of allows the guard is under threat. we cannot allow russians the when, so you settle this? well, you have pretty much coming up, the brains are saying, well, now we're a more and, and then then what are you going to do? you go to sob, mobilizing the country in the, you know, that's

a good one. it has to be charged. so i like this and this, the, the, the of the okay, you're heading to was the disaster has to wonder if friends of generals with even he the call to be honest with you. okay. mine was go to the u. k. david cameron, the return of the, the walking dead is it were that as part of the secretary, his government took a show lacking in local elections. and he's saying that, you know, of something like, you know, a guaranteed $3000000000.30 pounds a year for ukraine adding per item here. i wonder why they lost those elections. you know, when they lost those elections because hardly anybody, even tory supported as conservative, supporters have any confidence in this government to win the next to election. you know, we're all basically preparing for a length of victory, which is a disaster. and so because i think laid a party of our even though he's on the issues that we're concerned about. yeah, i don't see a difference. yeah, i know. so, i mean it's so for david cameron too,

so spelt as you know, it's very difficult to, to, to consider, to think about david cameron without, i'm thinking of that terrible article that somebody wrote about him where at each and a party does something quite basically with a picks head, but moving away from the house that's so sexual x, i think he's really also cavities and days and he knows that in 6 months time is going to be out of a job. so it raises myself. what he said, obviously he's going to support bite and this idea to the helps, you know, the, he's just put, going in the rack or the saying, you know, the idea of friendship. so i'm native trips in the ukraine is completely out of the question because that which is spark of world war. but it doesn't come up with video. tons of cloud is still very concrete except the signing of more and more money unless they can us a, you don't see a question. i think people are tired of these policies in the u. k, which doesn't make any sense, which doesn't add up a tool via politically into nicely away and domestically. you know, and i'm, well,

i think the question we should ask ourselves in the u. k. and then the european union and the america on we, on the cost of some massive political see judge, you know, is there a new generation of politicians now going to be, should in what's happening in the okay. and you mentioned the local elections is the, it seems to be a period of the little amount. so we're gonna have, i think a lot small, independent candidates, you know, and they have enough enough enough valid. joyce got enough, all the my judge gallery are able to actually direct and media tools and will come themselves now to on your trade in israel, you know, something quite size, but it can happen in the next level. i mean, that's a problem. i agree with any lease then sentiment. i agree with you, but you know, i'm going to go to george who is the a consummate pessimist here. um uh and even is be the promotion for this program on this channel. george repeats the words, we have the tools, they have the tools george they have spent. they basically have all the carts and the deck social media, censorship, shutting down ben use um there was a,

a very famous um, uh, and they were um, some kind of palestinian surgeon that is, you know, just basically been made for simon and brought over to atlanta totally not to france and then they told them you can speak and literally put them on the late slide. they put them on an early what they did, and it's really nasty. these people are really nasty and they want to show their power in attempt intimidation and violence is their strongest. but the last card to play that absolutely right then and the other day i, i saw a story. oh, some german politician has been attacked physically. it died so you know, but, but it was a green one. was a green ball at this level of social democrat, but it immediately german media. uh this is the ultimate different deutschland support us behind it. we've been waiting for this probably to be bad. the drum and the, you know, whether it is it because the pro russian is it because they're a threat to the monks? is it because the against the, they, the guy's name addresses it because they've pro nazi but it keeps coming it. so i think that's, that's how you deal with the, the opposition you just make use of,

of being against them obviously. but on the go back to breaking the kiss, some of the old that's not going to be a bit of a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our d. the . the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send the send the 65 to progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

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the, the the welcome back across i bullhorn. i'm peter labelle here we are discussing some real bright george leads you. you were finishing up your answer in the 1st part of the program, about descent and the tools of the state. keep going on. yes, i have going. you have to just, i'm a little with that question before the end of the be prime minister. not only give me and not expect any change when it comes to foreign policy. it's the u. k. above is why the likely that it will mean the, the,

the fact the re emergence of tony blair and tony blair is yes. okay. absolutely. front and center with the, with global is the, with the a, obviously the you, the leaders and you know, easily uh, begins, eventually as the backs along somebody is the, it's the do i think is quite like a little bit reliving the glory days of the late ninety's and the early, early as of as a century. um. so it is this go intervention is um and mentality will continue. now the question is what, how, how does the public respond to that? but now it was always seen in the u. k, the st. francis in the united states, there is real real protests then what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus protest of 2020 of the summer of george floyd. it is that these

protests are about something. there is a, there are there against them. is it mentioned on, on behalf of the israel, they're against, there's an unconditional support for the, for risk atrocities. and that demanding that the, the institutions distance themselves divest from israel. that's what they says it. that's not something, hey, i'm against the seduce lies. why braces of, you know, i, i'm finally against the police, you know, but just as nonsense a complete just would be pointless. self indulgence. so if you've got a m a move, but that is about something. well, that's going to be quite interesting to see what it was then that's gonna work blood pressure on the, on governments, and may lead to some sort shape. it's interesting to me, it would be martin if you look at the, the student protests across the western world. i mean, like i, you know, obviously if the issue of a, israel's genocidal acts against the palestinians and causes and blake. but i think,

you know, in a broader sense, and it's something that we've talked many times and this part of them about is this is turning into just an anti establishment movement. because particularly when it was the young people of their, their avenues to move forward are very, very limited. and then you start taking, take talk away from them and things like that. and you know that in there's the american context of the 1st amendment. but i think if we look at the, the, the student movements all across the world, it is anti establishment. it's got legs because george's right. this is about something, go ahead martin. yeah, i mean, students by definition the, the young and angry and the forming personalities themselves are developing and they tend to look for courses. and you know, whether you have what you'll meet people in y'all's to is big enough on dos or whether, you know, you're fighting for world peace. i think the power, those are interesting to what happened 60 years ago. if we look at barclay and columbia, how the student progress actually made an impact, they were identified today by the 2nd what x was as really well began with the cit

end of the wage. was this done some questioning? and i'm actually holding this document to the account actually did find the results in america putting out a via them typically competitive day. now we will do it slight different situation in the, in those lives, in the sixty's, you're gonna fail. oh, press you out of it. we're really independent, strong group of general, see the salt, it was the duty to be off to stylish minutes reports on the bench going papers and i know i'm such for these days. i think the students took a more pressure on them, the biggest boy on them to make a difference, because they know that what's getting reported by, by, by the legacy of media is not the truth. and you know, so i think there's a real danger of the, for the leads that these, these movements could really must from, into something, you know, be like, could be the only location the only place you go to, to get any kind of a sub, a comma tree about what's going on in israel and then america's role that,

you know, it could be the last bastion, basically a free space. so was just based very closely, i think, between now and, and the new term starts and, you know, it could be very interesting to see how big stays purchase mover's. well, yeah, we, we do see the establishment george fighting back. this ridiculous bill that's going through congress now is already been passed by the house. going to the senate, really just, i mean, i, and i mean we, we, you know, the member of the patriot act. we are all the business, you know, calendar, the 1st amendment and 4th amendment. you know, i mean, this is all, this is on steroids right now. i mean, you and i have talked about this a great lake. me, it's absurd, which is in that bill. it's absolutely absurd, and this is something that will be if it's a bed it's directed at educational institutions. but when you put something on the books like this, it gets very elastic. and just going back to the 1st part of the program, the, the, the, the powers that be have an enormous array of tools. okay. it can take you out of

the banking system like they did to the canadian truckers. i mean, yes, there is a difference between that, you know, in the sixty's, you know, they would be a men wanted to avoid the draft. they didn't want to go to vietnam. that's the draft is not the issue right now, but i would say the threats against descent are far greater now than an ever was in the 1916 storage way. i agree completely, and that's why um such a little bit and do succeed, you would need really to mobilize um, as, as many of the opponents of the powers that be of the stablish worth as you can. but what, as much really within the last couple of weeks is that the populace, right, which i think could easily make common cause with the, with the students with a protest those because they themselves have been subjected to attacking the populace. right? we were opposed to the war and your brain for a post of comes that a post of the deep stage of oppose the crack downs on free speech. good with easily

made common cause with with that because even if they can, they don't necessarily agree with the view in the middle east. they'll say, well yeah, but you know, there are against basically intervention is getting into stupid wars and so on. but instead, they are now align themselves with the, the political establishment with the force. here's the paintings again with us. right. and then, you know, as a drunk, who get over good, easily. i've just said, yeah, but kind of, you know, i, i, why sympathy is with them is that's it. yeah, yeah, that's up cracking head. so that's, that's cool in the police, you know, why, why as a these university presidents not cold in the police earlier. and that, and that means that it is essentially they, they walked into a trap where you can just simply pick people off, you just call them fascist. the one day it's trumpet is a boat as or fascist. and then the next layer of the protesters of the universe, the campus of passes. so every day you're deal 5 days,

the fascist. and i think that's how you got to pick off the opposition. so thing was a great opportunity was miss in kind of in, in full, full make some kind of an alliance. yeah. but martin, they, the, it's, it's really quite pathetic to watch because you see this unbridled use of force against primarily civilians and gaza. and then the plethora videos of young people, the being attacked by the police, particularly that the situation that you see a late, which apparently looked like vigilantes allowed onto the campus here. i mean, that's the one thing they had, you know, we could look at protests and we can look at foreign affairs with the powers that be half of their, unrestrained and using violence. they're the ones using violence. i'm just going to continue. unfortunately, you know, i mean the way i carmen with the university in america, you might remind me in the sixty's where police actually have inside with the live rounds. hey i'm, it's almost exactly what are the animal world university. i think, i mean, yeah, exactly. it is 54 years ago. yeah. so we're looking at this whole cycle now. is

that going to be the thinking? i mean, he was mentioned earlier about the correct down free speech and how these countries develop into basically fascist regime. as i'm aware, you know, that, like china, or like any of these countries that we look down on the last study is, you know, we've become like that now. and so free speech is going to be the real thing which is going to be around just completely. i'm wondering whether, you know what the student protests are going to be. the perfect, the almost a gift wrapped. i guess the thing that the, the needs will will shine a spotlight on a plane for everything. they'll be the escape goes, you know, and i think i can mix, i'm expecting, or date a little fake news of the full flag attacks. you know, it goes quite easy, the stage demonstrations you are, if you want to mugs, if you, if you have the most, does he that and he's and whether they be writing methods or whatever. i can see with this in the future. and i think the, i'm wondering with a student protests who will be that there will be the know that, well,

they've been waiting for, you know, really something they can use and manufacture moles, fake news. and it goes to great destruction statements for the, you know, in this age of cancelling the main. so would georgia of a, particularly in the case of the united states american youth will be canceled, and that'll be the addiction for it. okay. i mean, these, you know, you, well, we criticize these a leads to the, to the cows come home, but you, you never can do that, that they don't think big george. exactly. and when you look at these, uh, universities, they're in the business of raising money. and for them, do you think they got math is, is, you know, who's got the big box and they look at the students and they don't know big box. so that's the area that the exact does that. so, you know, if it's available, you know what it's doing, keep blackman happy holy the but the politicians on capitol hill have it or do i keep the students happy? it's no contest. the goal in the the cost interesting. but what you said,

we drove out of the u. c. l, a because that was the vigilant is it was a very well stage of occasion. and as a new york times reveal the other day that one of the finance is all of this vigilante group of the us. c l a. was jerry seinfeld, wife. um. so you gotta get the celebrity active as of now, the owner's, the whole, the side of the cracking down or the students because they knew exactly what they were doing. they were going to cause violence, which then trigger is a police response. the. so now you have this like you, so the celebrities themselves, you know, somebody discovering the jewish lives these opposite and multi 1000000000 as well. you know that don't made that with these stupid jokes of stupid said comes over the years. oh that list. so jewish, they, they have to do what they can for israel. so they, you know, no, definitely there my answer correct. now i don't know what their identity is, but they're very, very rich and really rich and get what they, what martin, it's

a we have to point out to our viewers that uh, southern california is a little cold occupied territory. a lot of people don't know that, but they, they, they, they, it's very strong that they look good at influencer last 20 seconds. go to you, martin guys. yeah. i think on the student progress thing on the other thing that i found are interesting is that how a number of universe to campus is now, how struct deals with the students who no one has agreed that the american un secretary did the you and the bus of the doesn't speak for the conference that she was supposed to speak a long as a crate offered narrow cultural center as okay. okay. maybe i'll get the money is on time. still the got all the window dressing here. unfortunately gentlemen. that time, always slice too fast, we've run out about mode. i think my guessing, budapest and america should. of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc. you next time. remember across doubles the,

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