organizations, their strength, their protest movements will not be enough to resist the promotion of this law in any way. i would say it is an instrument of financial influence on the public which can pursue western countries interested in georgia and their interest as is clearly seen. do not quite correspond to the interest of the people of georgia. therefore, it is already really obvious, very clear that there are already a lot of cases where they finance some illegal actions in georgia. we know that the west has become very adept at cruise in any country. one might say on all continents and a half, and south america and so on. their actions are precisely concentrated. please note the fellers ukraine, small dover, georgia, armenia, azerbaijan was pakistan. tajikistan. kyrgyzstan are on that list. in general, it is comprised of countries,

the border of russia. they need those countries to be against russia and not for any other purpose. well that, so for me, for the as a way of his grades, i have your company, my colleague, mike, and what you will be with you at the top of the hour. so i big or a very good the the hello and welcome across black bullhorn. so i'm peter lavelle. here we discuss some real news. it's fair to say the united states as lost its mind over the issue of israel. and in the process, the american 1st movement has shown itself to be

a fraud. also remembering history, why has d day become more important in the west then victory day in europe to discuss these issues and for i'm joined by my guess door to send me well we in budapest, he's a pod cast toward the god but which be found on youtube in locals and america actually a martin jay. he is an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that bridge and the fact that means you can jump me anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start off with george and in budapest, um america is lost its mind. as i said in the introduction, i mean, we have major infringements beings prepared. who would you a undermine the 1st amendment? we have members of congress. the want to put student protest, it's on no fly list, even one lunatic wants to send them to gaza. then we have do in peach biden, for the same reason. again, this is a kind of a parody of themselves, you know, the, using the same rationale that they impeach donald trump. in this case, it's my america's most important ally. never explain why that is,

but that's what said all the time. i could go on and on george, the place is coming apart at the seams over a foreign country. a yes, it is a, it is glad to extraordinary. and on top of that, we have the spectacle of a few days ago of the president of the united states, a democrat, the speaker of the house, number 3 in line to the throne. um uh, both at the hollow club, fuller cost commemoration. the oven and both spoke about the united states as being in the grip. oh, the anti semitic fervor, the likes of which the world has not seen since nazi germany. think that thing of that, that's what's going on with the university campuses is the most elite, the universities in the united states, you know, the, the, the children of the best families of this. so what's going on there is what was

going on in nazi germany and then i seen this will a straight face. and the people of course, go on with the beating of the media of those acts as a, an echo chamber and they end using it's, this is quite extraordinary. it is that they could believe anything. so upset. and then the adult with that we had um the other day the state department publish the sheepish record in which it pretty much said israel is committing well crimes using american weapons. i mean, it's the back of the says, but we don't have definitive proof of this. so therefore everything to continue as georgia you can, but you can watch those atrocities in real time a be a street? yeah, me, i well i do need a state department report. i don't. okay. i believe my eyes keep going. exactly,

but that was already too much because all of us lead to vote was that? yes. so we can go on sending israel holy arms. it wants to be because we just don't have different the different but the american homes are being misused. that was enough to cause an explosion alone. republicans that this, this is what you're tying the hands of outrages, the friend an ally you who, and you have the same thing. we, we were told that somehow things are changed. the republican party or change is of the band and all of those crazy ideas of the, of the early part of the 21st century with the george w bush train, the and all that logical gum. you know, we're all trump is now roll realist. now we're all nationally as populous is it's, it's exactly the same. it's just as complete, lunatic dement says, the desire to go to war as you say, on behalf of a foreign country without ever in the explanation. so why,

what is so special about this foreign country? yeah, and then martin, we had the letter to b i c c, which, you know, the united states always supported, went into, um, uh, what was going when the icpc was going after leaders and adversaries are against the united states. and now we have this, this letter going out from the side it, i mean, it could have been written by the soprano family. like you've been warned. that's a quote to the i see, see what's going on martin. you have to believe any of those. i mean, in a, if you say that these are very powerful people, i mean irrespective of their, of their intellect. okay. but you're out, you know, i think let you say that the american is, it lost his mind. i'm not sure as lost as my suddenly lost any thoughts this laurel or russian will come to us. we do seem to see we witness statements and post sessions and initiatives which seems to be conflicts one another. you know,

you've got an, a senator who once lobbied for a to not be sent to, to, to, to, to, to, to cause a to now we want the same page to move to the bottom because buttons the permanent looking to 8. it doesn't really make any sense to report the children mentions you know, it can be, you know, incoherent, completely as a slap on the wrist band, a fairly a stuff on there is why do you need to, why the result is just took a box, you know, to convince that goes on top of that, we are doing something about goes about, you know, sending bombs, the, and building or floating platoons will aid, you know, at the same time feeding the gardens and an amount of them and allowing the is ladies to carol them into a corner, you know, which was supposed to, as i've said before, they aren't meant to radio calls. it is an ethnic cleansing strategy. now, when it always has been really, you know, and the only thing that is coherence, which rings true every now and again, which we see is america's inability to play for in israel and palestine. it never

plays for, it always plays dirty, you know, and i feel confused about all of this things going on. it's ok. but it doesn't go ahead and reclaim some to demystify it for, you know, this wonderful videotape. as you put a few days ago in a rambling on about the palestinians. you know, like there's some kind of some human client and, you know, in the same way that some people describe insects and the palestinians were given this opportunity. it was a whole new but also a we had robert f kennedy junior say at one point, i mean i, i this year. i think that guys that kind of nonsense for me, hillary clinton total and i said the palestinians are some of the most pampered people in the world. that george what's going on here? because, i mean, why have this reaction? i mean, this says just fanatical reaction. the inside of fear again and, and also the realization that the mask has fallen off and everyone sees how ugly

these policies are. and they, they desperately don't want people to see reality. they're terrified. that's why we want to send students to gaza. they are part of the no fly list. i mean, there's been no violets that i'm aware of that's been committed by any of the students who are either a commencement or after commencement. george is exactly right. the to then there is no evidence whatsoever. and no one has produced any evidence that any of these students have committed any violence. the one incident, the best concert they referenced, they was referenced by speaker johnson. it was about this, a young woman who was poked in the eye with a palestinian flag. and this has been been repeated by all the politicians, and then it turned out, you know, this, it is the own home. and of course the rounds on television. there's nothing wrong with our i at each in the field stuff like that. looks like any normal, healthy young woman as well. i got a little bit of a headache. uh so, you know,

and, and it's clear that all of these cases arise when uh, essentially pro is ready. the student active is deliberately go out of their way to provoke the, the, the of the pro palestinian academic stages in the full of closing a confrontation in the hope of causing some kind of a male a which can then be filled, which can then be sent out to the, to the television stations and say, wow, look a little bit re bid uh at the same it is a, as and when out bossing legislation, it also has a saying, well this, this anti semitic wave is so dangerous is such a threat to students that we need is a very stringent the legislation of damage that the, the people that are giving them, but they hits the leads they feel threatened by the students. the that's the reason

they feel us right. is it, do you call deny? what's just, what's going on there? i mean, it's like you could keep repeating october the 7th, till the cows come home. but just even look at the numbers. i mean, how do you know that the, the wild, this proportion of the numbers just put, so lie to that, that the somehow there was nothing that happened before october, the 7th, and then nothing happens all through october the 7th. and therefore, we can just simply keep repeating october 7, nazi germany, a holocaust, and hope that someone's gonna ask any question more than what's the, what's even more bizarre here is the talking about how um, certainly students, particularly jewish students feel threatened or they could be triggered you know, i don't know the woke lingo is as well as others do. but at the same time, when these claims are being made, a slaughter is going on. non stop in, in gaza. and i mean, so you, you talk something that it's imagined and then you want to deny reality partner.

and i think of the americans and these writers wanted to not reality as much as they possibly can manipulate the process. i think it was very interesting to see the last few days of interview with peers smoking, and one of the official is where the spokes person and morgan basically calling of this guy. because it became apparent that these writers don't have any statistics. a tool for the so called civilian, so they've killed only specifics on the so called terrace. i'm us, i'm moaning made the point. if you haven't got the sophistic songs, villas, and everything you're doing, especially across, you know, you're just trying to con us probably over the eyes of everybody. well, you know that there is there, there is some logic into tracking down the service and can well knows the names for this thing. spokes people are never really challenged by even, you know, remotely, a hard question. you're george, before we finish up this segment here. what happened to america 1st? i think that's a very good advice if america 1st that's going to be in

a kind of america. but all this, like, i don't know the, literally, the america of john mccain this amazing kind of transformational maybe was my transformation. he was, i think, a largely a college of this suggest holy a america for us. yeah, we're not going to worry about anyone else. but that's kind of what john mccain used to say. the last thing we want to do is worry about what the lease slimy europeans have to say, or what this asians have to say. we just do whatever we want to do. and so it becomes a full circle. america for us is just simply bush mccain republic one as well. where is donald trump and all of this? he doesn't seem to be pushing back. i mean, again, i mean, you know that that's what he's got is his policy is supposed to be, but i don't see him saying it last 30 seconds. george. before we go to bradley, i think trump is just hoping that this issue will just go way and he can just avoid saying anything or doing anything that's got on timing eyes,

anyone. so he's just simply keeps repeating the same mantra state. it didn't happen when i was president. it wouldn't have happened if i were president. that's. that's totally recess. yeah. but do you know that that is the, the, the, is the strategy about power not to say anything and hope that the subject will be changed. that's just pure cowardice, unfortunately, but i think the entire political class is coward, the cowardice and a lack of moral compass is martin study of by gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real and stay with our to the

the welcome back to the prospect bullhorn john peter and well here were discussing some real news. i'm a martin, let me go to you. you know, the, you know, here in moscow we just celebrated victory day in europe to 79th anniversary. of course, that is a staple. here it's, it's one of the most important dates in the calendar, in russia for very good reasons. so we really don't know the need to go into here, but that the date is, is rapidly disappearing as a day to commemorate in the west. so that would even go further. you know, the more you, with every passing here it's, it's almost is if the soviet union,

1st of all, wasn't in the war or it was the enemy. but it, there is very little recognition of its role in the defeat of fascism in europe. in 1945 martin. yeah. and that's i think that's, it's interesting that you know, picking that up perhaps because we go generation. but i wonder if younger people, even really, even though it stands out even on the to, you know, we, we, we all at brushing us out slowly but gradually. because the leads want us to make no reference to the role of russia. but in the 2nd level, as you said, and um, and i think this as a recent reflection on the direction that we're going, you know, is that if in georgia, as i mentioned before previously last week. so you know this, we are what, what the, the lead some managing to basically break down, eradicates and destroy oh liberties, old free, spiritual debates. now old revolt in the mountain itself. now history is being

horribly skewed. and why? because there is this under this underlying initiative from the west to basically put royce a little to get like a bicycle and have an east and west. and you know, this is where we're heading. and this is, this is all part of increased defense spending. and basically gave short term to school games, politically sustaining power and also very clever long term gains. of course, you know, what does that leave the hundreds of american companies invest in china for example, that's just want to take a minute. breaks is expanding very, very rapidly. and i think it's important for the americans and the british to celebrate the day, the normal decline things. um, but beyond that, you know, we're not going to see much. i mean, in the last week we had a lot about a hold. of course, you know, i so on twits of people talking about some, 02 is people are afraid that, that we will also forget to hold a call. so my argument back on twitter was, how can we get ahold? of course, when the is raise or a monday,

is that every single day with the genocide and guns, you know, we're never going to get ahold of course because people are going to think. but well, that's a repeat of history, isn't that interesting? 1945. all the way to where we go today and this time, you know, the genocide is supported by the americans. they get a kind of a fee get out of jail free card. you know, a no, probably be more kind of busy from any international court. what a joke, you know, even the votes and the un general assembly just recently would seem to be very encouraging. i, a lot of people drew some sort of some comfort from the fact that now tell us son can at least in principle consider itself to be a possible stage. you know, but that will hinges on the un security council giving up the front of it. and we'll know that, but ministration are going to bring to that. however, going back to georgia point, trump or your point, where does this leave trump inputs? i think, i think that's a big thing for trump, because that puts even more focus on him from the middle east in the hold of the

middle east, specially waiting to come back, you know, and not necessarily because they loved trump so much, but they just don't see any mileage at all in the bundle ministries. and so the big question now can be, if trump did come back, would he do the unthinkable when he pressed that button? the thing is to say that it seems more and more obvious your to that if time comes back we get jord though. we get john mccain again. mean big. it is no matter who you out for. you give john mccain and, you know, they, they would say with the topic of history here. george, i mean it's, it's very interesting and said, you know, you know, i, you know, i just watched a number of documentaries about the 2nd world war. they're very old ones. okay. and um, and then i look at the media coverage, whatever coverage there is. and you'll get the impression that the americans won the war by invading on d day and they liberated the camps. that's, that's kind of the new history to yes, that is, that is a history. so you've got

a track of the world war 2 accounts, which is where you've got a burden. you know the bad, the bread defeating the nazi job, a name, then you've got the day and then the liberation of europe. and that's pretty much it. and so the v e day, which is to be quite a big deal. well that's kind of now disappeared and so everybody's waging with excitement with bated breath. bully of the h e s. and the 3 of the d day landings, which is going to be a very big event and is going to be, you know, member of the game russell will then be present as who is playing a very minor, if any role in the whole thing. where as it goes, even when it comes to d day or so, the soviet union played a very big role because it also at the coincide with the they had mounted a huge offensive, which ultimately led to late the total collapse of nazi germany. so we play the very big role, is these a that associates

a fastball fan and was involved all the the, the planning and in george, i mean if you look at the historical record, know, you know, it's very difficult to know. and when we like, way we talk about ukraine a lot, the conflict there. we don't know. in retrospect we'll find out what if we were at the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning because you're in the middle of it. but when we look at the history of the 2nd world war in, you know, 79 years after the the, and the defeat of the nazis is it, it was quite obvious by, by june 1944, the outcome of the war was a certain b, the ability for nazi germany and satellites through a generate a new major offensive in the east was 0 and they've okay in the, in the, our den later. but that was very short term, but the, when the war was of the, essentially determined. okay. and now i know you, we have the d date landings and it could have only happened is there it will be because of the soviet success in the east, british athletic. yes,

exactly. that's the best way. and them, what i think is also important, that by june 1944, the uh, the west, the allies were quite concerned because they knew that the a major. so we had victory was in the all thing. and they have just the piece as well that it goes way hold back any longer delay of the invasion of europe any longer. you know, there may not be any need for the west. and now as you know, the red army would just have the, uh, the, you know, the sweep of westwood without any issues. but even when he comes to the uh, off the, the, the landings, the germans are still concentrating most of their forces in the east rather than the west. because that's what they were afraid of. they were afraid of the red army breaking through and occupying the whole of germany. so they really went that worried about the, the british and the americans. it was really late in the soviet break, so they can sell them. but what's also interesting is this any yahoo?

so it was speaking of the russian museum a few days ago getting commemorate daily, horrible as remembrance they any said, no one came to the assistance of the jews. yeah, we was jews. we saw that no one came to the assistance of issues. and now this, this is the thing, let's get, gets repeated over and over again. losing millions of all millions of people living in the soviet union dive to defeat nazi germany. it was a, they came and they, these again, they lived a rate the times one can bought for another, as a liberated by the red army, all of the offers that blink everyone we have liberated by the read on it. and you have the know, the say no one came to into our systems. well, you know, the history is now been completely rewritten. yeah. but one of the reasons why it's being rewritten, martin is that they've been that there is the intent to deny the suffering of the

peoples of the soviet union in the defeat of nazi germany. so if you, if you would great generate a narrative where you're not there, then if you weren't there then weren't, you didn't suffer. and that's one of the things that they want to avoid. and you know, you know, the, the, i can remember um, uh, an american woman talking about, um, uh, and now the red army conquered you a hungry and i pointed out to her, i said, you know, the red army last said 600000 troops, deliberate, bad small country and you don't want to recognize that there's, there's this lack of input, the lack of rec, recognition. and at the end of the day gentlemen, is always about security. it's not moralizing. you know, it's easy. rightfully so to demonize the, the nazis but stolen or um go to bed, shop or pool. it doesn't really matter. they have rushes security at heart and there's again rush. it has no security requirements, only the west,

those when you knock the the sub beginning out of the more than you, we shuffle the deck when it comes to security. even martin. yeah, i think i'd have to agree with you, but i think, you know, what historians in general is tend to not look too carefully at what killed referred to as you know, as a d. j land is we're only really made possible by the feet of germany and russians operation. but rosa was a colossal mean minute, tre, fail, spectacular to say that. but why with the germans? what was in the advancing eastward, mainly to look for more oil. and the main reason why the deadline is repulsive was because of the time of the june 1944, the germans had no, no real efforts to speak of. by that time, they basically run out fuel and they were not enough by that surround the even to find a few places they have possibly deadlines would have been a very, very different story. if the,

if the air force the same types. and they said that the numbers and the planes to get out to, to, to provide so i think we need to put it on into context. but, you know, we're not looking at minutes contact. the last thing they says he doesn't tell you, look at my operation, but the risk of drawing any lessons from it. so you know, the future is, is, is a blink on what it was. and yeah, yeah, but i mean to this, i'm glad you brought that up right martin, because that's exactly how the russians see it. okay. i mean, they may see a collective west they know, again in, in, in, in the, in this year, in the immune, in 1941, the us who was not already in, wasn't in the war already, but in 2022. you have the complete collective west. okay. and, but it also is on their mind, the russians that, that is george goody. that's exactly right. and that's the way they look at it. and they've mentioned this many times before, but essentially, hibler present to them this. the soviets, with a united european continent interest, pretty much the united europe bank, ultimate,

that everyone had been born as this has had been defeated. most of the governments of, uh your, at that time to bought in the invasion, you know, it was as hungry a romania, uh, you know, even from said that the but, and this notion is the thing. yeah. that's kind of what we've got now. and worse, because we've, we've, we've also got the united states and great britain, which of these burden was not all of us on the side of a hip left in 1941. but this, the, you know, just a year or 2 earlier, a great burden had, had, wanted to attack the soviet union. unfortunately, gentlemen were, but in time, but the good in history does it in prepaid, but it does echo, and we've disproved on this program. what i think my guess in budapest and verification, of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time. and remember, well sacrificed the

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