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hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discussed some real in the, at the end of the 19th century. africa was divided between european empires, which mercilessly oppressed the indigenous population. modern day tends and he used to be a german colony. the germans levied heavy taxes on local drives and used them as free labor on cotton plantations. the pheasants protest turned into an uprising

against the colonialists under the banner of the religious movement of the z. my z, it was led by a man named t g to the rebels, use guerrilla tactics, because they did not have the power to grasp the german army in head on confrontation. but the germans were not able to suppress the resistance of the guerrillas either. so the invaders decided to starve that population to day. one of the commanders of the german troops kept in wagon high road, only younger and once again lead the finals of mason. military actions alone will remain more or less a drop in the ocean. the blasphemous plan works. the invaders burned villages and fields. in 2 years, germany deliberately starved up to 300000 people did that later. the monstrous experience of the 2nd right in tanzania was copy by the 3rd, right, lead by the nazis in order to extra pay the be both of europe,

the 3 what i see you both as mr. so why the pregnant, to thank you for taking the time to speak with us this afternoon. how are you, sir? praise going, i'm good. it's good and keep i'm home. but now we want to discuss what is happening globally. if we look at indonesia, it is one of the countries that continues to voice support for palestine. and that also supported south africa's case before the international court of justice, the against israel. problem in from your point of view. why just seeing the nation government feel it is important to voice it support for this conflict spot of the balance. i took a discourage of the founding 5 is the same that is held by the government. for example, have we believe in participating in creating peace before it's independent sign up until entities you decided to join be known, the block moved,

but it was because of that spirit. and when engine easy, it became independent. the palestinians also recognized that independence. so the relationship between the people of indonesia, i'm the people of goals i think has been built a long time in the past, kind of assigned was among the known state supports as old indian easy is independence. so if engine easiest supports it today is part of what we were born way to. it's automatic. their names of indonesians whose names all go see which means people from goals i want them. so the use of the word l g o z is not a foreign name. it up, i can or even names of scholars from escalade. that's why they called ask allow me because the person is from escalade. escalade is now part of israel, a lot of palestine. those names are pretty common in all countries. even among chef fee himself came from gauze outcome for hold of. he lived in bagdad, lone guy, and also served in yemen. i'm on the shaft, the pump, me use the tub, outgoing z. that's because it originated a net,

it goes that which traces back to its origin and fax off to world war 2. they, franky, even further the, particularly when issues in the region started to arise following world war one. in other words, if the people's ambitions are reflected in the government's attitude, the government acts upon them. the support from indonesia is expected and not surprising market. and then i hit and yeah, baby boom and finally the you and passed a resolution for a ceasefire from your point of view. what impact can this un resolution have? will it be able to resolve what is happening in the gaza region as a 7 though the effect level? so i don't know the direct effect on israel on the central minutes, but it seems that the gaza supplement is taking a while. and then from a market perspective, whether this is a sign that something is going to shift, we don't know yet our broadcast. hopefully it will be foster based solely based on the verdicts. we haven't seen it in action. the decision is one thing,

but how it's implemented in the field must also be tested. it seems that still needs to be a lot of token, most serious diplomatic negotiations. assessing up right now with indonesia, music on indonesia itself is also very active in providing assistance and support. not only in terms of diplomacy, the community is involved, both through demonstrations and material assistance. could you share a little bit about the role of the p b and you to be able to provide and also ensure the support for the people in palestine. the color young is simply the and you latest help to channel people's aspirations to take care of how in an easy it becomes a peacemaker. so people have hopes or respectful palestine for us citizens, but not only in demonstrations and, but also in that presence. of course, these communications must be properly channels, so it's not just a demonstration to maintain the rhythm and spirit of support. we have been supporting palestine for a long time. a call on the on from your experience where maybe you've received

information or their challenges that have to be overcome to provide the support specifically for supplies such as food or medicine that indonesia has delivered to that by not to glen. they is a loss of support for the people even more than what's needed for them to transport said was overwhelmed. there's a lot of support in the form of natural and material, a, especially for the palestinians. the technical issues involved in delivering the items also not simple. that's what a government can result quickly on. but for example, the government allocated air force planes to help the people from a b, b and you are among the officers who assisted delivering the supplies. you've got those who are used to handling as often as we're involved. there are also offices who deliver goods to complex areas. not any in palestine, but also narrow left by in syria. so and you activists have been used to help to

deliver aid. then rooms with yeah, so yeah, and there has always been a closeness and cooperation with the government to deliver this aid and one been born in. yeah. yeah. can yes, because the government has the authority going on when it comes to relationships between 2 countries. the governmental relationship is certainly strong, got its people to people supporting from ages that that's the kind of relationship that exists between the governments like the scholarship that we have done right now. if we look at the turmoil, there is a lot of interference from western countries in this conflict. what do you think about the policies of these western countries that the bus at the end of sky? because that's not sure what the science pico treaty still exists for defining 1916 european space of influence. tracing the origins of the troubles and palestine is a lengthy study that cannot be condensed. therefore in some of the talks of a most lately, we must explore that. what does the palestinian issue can be results slightly by

you in resolution or something more is required. we always come back to who the parties are conducting the negotiations to say demands a greater level of serious this than before. for example, weston countries are responding to issues in west asia or in the palestinian territories. now that is all side different and not the same. what is the west to america in europe have to be the same? does it have to be profound in nature and the red sea western european countries in the united states on a couple of ways? the same. on the other hand, the palestinian problem is situation opposite the red sea. so really, palestine the west and the red sea cannot be separated. what is happening now requires negotiations that are not solely economic, but i took a much conversation, must go deeper than that. and we thought that that'd be bustle next. that tray got more complicated issues in west asian affairs because it could be a shorter serious, it could lead to that. oh, but family have. what do you see as the approach taken by western countries in the

global south and managing this conflict? yeah i'm, i'm good with the perspective beyond got paid. there might be a slightly different perspective between the south pole global south and west and countries. i just read that the use of the middle east level does not mean from the middle east. what i'm going to use is the middle east and who uses the time west. i usually have any one given me that it may be there is indeed a deeper context to the words used to knock on a book. i would only want to do middle eastern is see themselves as from the middle east, but when someone refers to the middle east, what do they see? the region from the point of view to the west of it, to the of the somebody that had decided that may also represent the perspective that is applied to this issue. once like you need to be that the ds, it could be showing a standing position, give us something scully maniacal. so we often hear especially in european countries about the burning of the holy qur'an the banding of is traditional islamic clothing in schools and female students being prohibited from wearing the

head chief or head scarves in any form. this also happens in the workplace. they're strong in time, muslim statements made by right wing politicians in europe. and if you look at this for all these cases, just stand alone incidents are good. one, talk about a wider problem or the rejection of everything. most of them in your say, got the luck. i know. so we have them done. i don't really believe there is a genuine rejection of islam. the fact that interest is growing is proof positive. it's a different story. and finally, if it turns into a political narrative, because the election is gets in place, i mean that's, that's a little tough to talk about. but again, i want to make it more difficult for candidates running in that district to attract support is, for example, in some countries we see this trend spike during the election. i mean, it gets more attention because it's a matter of finding coaches in america all the west, perhaps my don't have participated in the youth exchange during the american

election season. pals. question saying what you tell me, your headlights? i don't you worry that you'll be bullied by others so. so from my perspective, it's important to remember that every one has the unique style of getting along the village, even when it comes to wearing a headscarf in environment that hasn't been used to that it is about the one who doesn't where, who responding to the one who does this is about the relationship with the book about how to maintain the relationship with that. and i still believe there are more same people in this well to the nurse who would know that i am. and that, that the guy, what is your view on how the issue of religion has become a political agenda in these countries today? yeah, to my, if you take the essence of religion, it is important for politics. but if you take the political show up within the person's decision comes out to be in security, it could be that the person who pulls the religious issue, people are not confident with our achievement. so they pulled a religious issue for us and there was

a problem earlier. why is religion important for politics? actions in just a little more because of religion is to, god is 5 values in high values are important. politics, religion is a warehouse, all 5 values, politics, benefits from a high regard for religion because it promotes a healthy political climate. but if you just take the show, it politics will lose its meaning. that seems to be a situation where in political seasons, in many countries, the issue of religion is polls. but that's actually a set back for progress and whether he's left or right is another mass of silica. been them plan um with migration trends on the rise all over the world and millions of people ending up outside their natural religious environment. what are the main difficulties facing organizations that try to promote peaceful coexistence among people of different religions? does this mean the politics using the cloak of religion is also one of the

difficulties? what other difficulties does the community face to be able to continue to maintain peace between religions and undermine my name as it goes up in the wind up? every area faces unique challenges up on the island. it takes a while to go to southeast asia and due to the length of travel living in the south east asia is also a more tranquil. we can't rely on only what is taught in schools. in my opinion or community school curriculums are important, but in order to promote the healthy, a way of life rules and regulations governing how people live in these multi cultural or multi religious society must be gretch. any question. ok to describe a society's common sense under people of different religion since can get along with each other. that is the application of punch. you see the values that the, like the president, tim medina, at the time during rest of the realize time, the people with different the tribes with different religions with different that they could get along. actually punch a seal is taken from such references,

defining the common interest of a people or a community is each states to take the book in each community. the people have that . oh and you sees that the light. now how get that under rest gotta now we also hear a lot about universal values like a new narrative that many convey not just politicians. many stories are circulating in the younger generation, even do you have any knowledge about whether those universal values actually exist? and how might indonesian people respond to this narrative, given that some argue this is ambiguous. yeah. yeah. it does cause yeah, that's actually an old discussion, potentially universal humanism has been around for a long time and then the policy discussion was also not sure. so is it repeating that again? should values that apply it generally, that can appeal generally be standardized, just like that without considering regional or local factors on top of that is the cause,

the sense of belonging that comes from being east and no indian easy. and for instance, small cuba is actually west. slavic is from where the asian or european is the sense that both universal and regional it is a sentiment that is local, regional or shed by all agents, including se agents and indonesia. and this is a person's feelings, all unavoidable, but if it is a value that has global meaning, then fine, but of course it has to be negotiable. it cannot be taken for granted. this is the most universal value to well, it's just different from the problems that were faced during the universal terms of humanism debates. yes, they recognize that local value still exists. the local does not need to be globalized. and the global does not need to be localized o'clock, and that's a good a to go on. you like me like what about didn't use own values. so how can we maintain those local and global values, the local and then you know, i go back and look, we need to go to the new logo,

ready to pick the trench market office strategies that enable and you to keep it alive. that is preserving the tried and true all creating the new and improved that approach does exist. go okay, that's gotta, if we're now talking about terrorism sometime ago, there was a terrorist attack that took place in moscow. indonesia has also experienced terrorism on that scale, which has hit us hard. is there a country in the world that is completely protected against such tragedies? and what exactly should be done, especially by the government to be able to overcome them? the, a court on some level con, thing that comes up. what if the, you have to understand the whole argument not only in black and white, because people are able to do stuff like that. that is because the terrorist was raised to set the environment that enables him to do this. consequently, i believe that the organizations are involved in russia, and it's quite quickly to take that into account and address it. but every nation

has its own approach to dealing with it. o anticipate to get thank god, we've able to avoid the difficult conditions that indonesia has encountered. se asia office, a unique experience compared to other regions. what makes the difference? yeah, be said that they've gotten a model and able to say that it could be because the big picture is different. it could be for other reasons, but they all domestic fact says, what is the difference between this domestic goals and this normally the domestic cause of what is the conflict like in in the days yet by itself didn't hold measures have been taken. the results can be seen since the body plumbing, where the government moved quite aggressively. suddenly though, if you trace the issue of terrorism, it cannot be directly linked to only religious issues. a terrorist is at least a criminal. they cannot be linked only to his belief. that's a subject at that, we're going to use anybody he come back from your experience with p n. u. how is the organization contributing to the handling of this terrorism case,

or is it the wrong teachings or narratives that are finally shared with the community? i doubled up a, a bit better, but the young man, some people specialize in problem solving, whether in the area of religion or imagery performed in cases where charles religious imagination is misguided due to incorrect interpretations induct dreams. this is what occurs when following up off is prioritized event determining the appropriate tools of therapy or remedy. children, for instance, utilize some phrases with ease, but we can judge whether this is from the hospital or just something that comes out of that mat with whom i see. so what is the measure of a religious person or a person claiming to defend islam? does he interfere with other peoples? right, so no, i think it might be if it turns out that he intends to defend as well. but homes of the policies is that's as well. there are ways to measure people's narratives and statements that alone, detecting people who do not make statements the naturally early detection methods

are available to officials in every nation. and therefore a state officials are concerned with early detection, then community activity. so active base from non governmental organizations and naturally interested in developing a more tolerant, peaceful, and healthy way of living to the most critical to comprehend the importance of appreciating one another and living in harmony. that is something that they get all the way. perhaps not many indonesians or the international community know about the relationship between russia and the p b and you know, so where did the story of this relationship again? yeah. can you explain what kind of relationship has been established up until now? god, l i c. o forgotten the relationship between russians and nations has been going on for a long time in terms of institutional organizational relations. but of course, it's in the form of government relations, for example, for as far as we know, recorded meetings between n u officials and russian official started during the time of presidents,

2 condo. in fact, several, and you need is a company presence of condo when he visited several sites in russia. so for example, in colorado, in test catch them, there is that to move him on the call rate. they did most guys, there was a great most cold the cathedral most abrupt essentially and use of course the government's policies. however, the relationship does not restricted to that when it comes to the people. now for example, there are certain names in southern brush or, or central asia, that's if you have them, you will not be surprised. 40 for example, the name is shake abdul, how many dentist on a shows that he's from the caucuses. but the cool cause is suddenly positive russia because these names that must these indent. gustavo, and i'm not sure if that tech install is already part of russia. so it includes the names of figures who were in central asia when central asia was still russia. this can be traced, for example, to the name is said, his name is as the account we dug is done because that's the part that was sent to

the fast. the when people prayed in the congregation, it's a very respected part. and i might have this, it would say one of the next spend the people who is respected as cold as the account. wait, he's from douglas. stop it. yeah, there are more than a few figures from dentist on whose names often mentioned. in fact, if you trace it back to salt and now i mean putting to y'all and his grandfather, salt, and now i made was the one who wrote and made the logo of the root of but on the symbol of the indonesian state, which has dec, a stony blood pass out on a shake as 18 was from dug of stone. that's why the name dec installed is still attached in the, in full references, swami and i guess tommy means i see it that gets stopped. now. i thought that goes back. that'd be a whole many. that means the relationship has existed long before intonations, independence. oh my god. and yes, up until indonesia reached independence. and beyond. we on the buckeye,

the satellite god. yes. the books that he used in the community, religious books, for example, at islamic boarding schools, some of the books so full, so use a dec stone. so there is a close by yeah. can i and people who took the guess because they learn from the same figures. it's a little different from here in terms of sector my diet, but e. c, a logical understanding. the map is the same to the reality show, feed pre dominates in southern russia robot. then kind of thing is that the only difference is that one is the terrestrial roots on the other as a c root, just like in the southeast asia and the spice we're going to get the, the silver root is the one and that gets done. and if the pulse may different, but the fundamentals of religion remain long should be the same. hello, really have me have, what is the relationship like today? we're going to take big. i took the relationship has maintained good times the and as we say that there were still visits from one another. for example,

the revisits from russian figures to islamic boarding schools. there are invitations from events in russia to engine easy. and the big is, if you look at these, we see good relations from both parties, but it's like i've come up file who live in babylon. why is it considered important to maintain the relationship between p b and you and russia, given the relationship between indonesia and russia, that is also still very well established by the end, the nation and government to my internship gullow lender. how does this answer, that kind of thing that got us for the relationship between the people? the relationship between figures can suddenly be learned from a long time ago. for example, the universities to often invite representatives from indonesia, campuses, in russia, and campuses in indonesia, almost invite figures from russia. that's something that's being developed. and it's important to help maintain relations between communities. that person to person that size. the building between citizens is important for more peaceful

relationship and the journey ahead. but the fact that in what ways can the relationship between muslims in indonesia and russia continued to be strengthened. yeah. how, how young women can come. it is about how to use that allow for strong understanding or encourage and this is the ones that promote misunderstanding or avoid it. i guess for example, if there is sensitive issues, we need to deal with them quickly. at those times. we office who is the neighbor of russia, of those countries that but how many karone system we need to explain that it's very far away, which means it's different to do man, if you look at it that way. but things that allow misunderstandings to occur. a part of what must be addressed and that the, the existing understanding what must be improved and have to give you mind. i see bang yet bustle, i b, thank you very much, mister sweetie for your time. and for such an enlightening discussion, not only about the history, but also about what can be done in the future. the

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