the they think i was wrong, and that's the hello and welcome across black bullhorn. so i'm peter lavelle here we discussed some real news, just fair to say the united states as lost its mind over the issue of israel. and in the process, the american 1st movement has shown itself to be a fraud. also remembering history, why has d day become more important in the west then victory day in europe to discuss these issues and for i'm joined by my guess story to send me well we in budapest, he's a pod cast, right? the god. but which be found on youtube in locals and america, actually a martin jay. he is an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that bridge is in effect, that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george and in budapest, america is lost its mind. as i said in the introduction, i mean,

we have major infringements beings prepared to be to undermine the 1st amendment. we have members of congress that want to put student protest students on no fly list. even one luna tape was to send them to gaza. then we have do in peach biden, for the same reason. again, this is a kind of a parody of themselves, you know, the, using the same rationale that they impeach donald trump. in this case, it's my america's most important ally. never explain why that is, but that's what said all the time. i could go on and on george, the place is coming apart at the seams over a foreign country. a yes, it is a, it is glad to extraordinary. and on top of that, we have the spectacle of a few days ago of the presence of the united states, a democrat, the speaker of the house, number 3 in line to the throne. um, uh,

both at this hollow club fuller cost commemoration, oven and both spoke about the united states as being in the grip. oh, the anti semitic above uh, the likes of which the world has not seen since nazi germany. think that thing of that, that's what's going on with the university campuses is the most elite, the universities in the united states, you know, the, the, the children of the best families of this. so what's going on there is what was going on in nazi germany. i mean, i seen this will a straight face and the people of course, go on with beating in the media of those acts as a, an echo chamber and they end using it's, this is quite extraordinary is that they could believe anything. so upset. and then the adult with that we had um the other day the state department publish the

sheepish report in which it pretty much said israel is committing well crimes using american width and submitted to the back of the says. but we don't have definitive proof of this, so therefore everything just continue as yours. you can, but you can watch those atrocities in real time a. be a street? yeah. me, i well i do need a state department report. i don't. okay. i believe my eyes keep going. exactly, but that was already too much because all of us lead to vote was that? yes. so we can go on sending israel whole we arms. it wants to be because we just don't have different the different. but the american homes are being misused that was enough to cause an explosion alone. republicans that this, this is what you're tying the hands of outrages, the friend of ally you who and you have the same thing we,

we were told that somehow things have changed. the republican party or change is of the band and all of those crazy ideas of the, of the early part of the 21st century with the george w bush cheney and all that logical gum. you know, we're all trump beings. now roll realists. now we're all national is populous. it's, it's, it's exactly the same. it's just as complete, lunatic dement says, the desire to go to war is to say on behalf of a foreign country without ever in the explanation as to why, what is so special about this foreign country? yeah, and then martin, we had the letter to b. i c c, which, you know, the united states always supported, went into, um, uh, what was going when the icpc was going after leaders and adversaries. so against the united states. and now we have this, this letter going out from the side. it, i mean, it could have been written by the soprano family like you've been warned. that's a quote to the i see, see what's going on martin. you have to believe any of the,

those. i mean, in a, if you say that these are very powerful people, i mean the respective of their, of their intellect. okay. but you know, i think let you say that the memory of the things that lost his mind, i'm not sure as lost as my suddenly lost any thoughts. this laurel or russian will come to us. we do seem to see we witness statements and post positions and initiatives which seems to be conflicts one another. you know, you've got an, a sentence, a who wants low bid for a to not be sent to, to, to, to, to, to, to cause a to now we want the same page to move to them because, but now if i were you looking to a, to it doesn't really make any sense to report the children mentions you know, again, you know, here to completely is a slap on the wrist band. a fairly is stuff on there is why do you need to, why the result is just took a box you know, to convince that goes off of but that we aren't doing something about it goes about,

you know, sending bones the and building or floating platoons will aid, you know, at the same time feeding the gardens and an amount of them and allow him to is ray these 2 carols them into a corner. you know, which i suppose this i've said before, they aren't meant to radio calls that is an ethnic cleansing strategy. now, when it always has been really, you know, and the only thing that is coherence, which rings to every now and again, which we say is america's in ability to play for in israel and palestine and have a place where it's always plays. dorothy, you know, and i feel confused about all of this things going on. it's ok. but it doesn't go ahead and reclaim some to demystify it for, you know, this wonderful video campus you put a few days ago in a rambling on about the palestinians. you know, like this, i'm kind of some human client and, you know, in the same way that some people describe insects and the palestinians were given this opportunity. it was a whole new but also

a we had robert f kennedy junior say at one point, i mean i, i this year. i think that guys that kind of nonsense for me, hillary clinton total and i said the palestinians are some of the most pampered people in the world. that george what's going on here? because, i mean, why have this reaction? i mean, this says just fanatical reaction. the inside of fear again and, and also the realization that the mask has fallen off and everyone sees how ugly these policies are. and they, they desperately don't want people to see reality. they're terrified. that's why we want to send the students to gaza. they've caught up with them a no fly list. i mean, there's been no violets that i'm aware of that's been committed by any of the students who are either a commencement or after commencement. george is exactly right. the to then there is no evidence whatsoever, and no one has produced any evidence that any of the students have committed any

violence. the one incident, the best concert they referenced, they was referenced by speaker johnson. it was about this a young woman who was poked in the eye with a palestinian flag, and this has then been repeated by all the politicians. and then it turned out, you know, this, it is the own home. and of course did the rounds on television. there's nothing wrong with our i at each in the field. perfect. now looks like any normal, healthy young woman as well. i got a little bit of a headache. uh so you know, and, and it's clear that all of these cases arise when, uh, essentially the pro is ready. the student active is deliberately go out of their way to provoke the, the, the of the pro palestinian academic stages in the full of closing a confrontation in the hope of causing some kind of a male a which can then be filled, which can then be sent out to the,

to the television stations and say, wow, look a little bit so rabid assignments as a, as and when our bossing legislation is the spacing will this with this anti semitic wave is so dangerous is such a threat to students that we need is a very stringent, the legislation of damage that the, the people that are giving them, but they hit the leads they feel threatened by the students. the that's the reason they feel us right. is it, do you call deny? let's just go what's going on there? i mean, it's like you can keep repeating october the 7th till the cows come home, but just even look at the numbers. yeah, i mean, how, you know that the, the wild, this proportion of the numbers just put so like that. but somehow there was nothing that happened before october, the 7th, and then nothing happens all through october, the 7th. and then what we can just simply keep repeating october 7, nazi germany,

a holocaust. and hope that someone's going to ask any questions more than what to do. what's even more bizarre here is the talking about how a certain students, particularly jewish students, feel threatened, or they could be triggered. you know, i don't know. the woke lingo is as well as others do, but at the same time, when these claims are being made, a slaughter is going on. non stop in, in gaza. and i mean, so you, you talk something that it's imagined and then you want to deny reality partner. and i think the americans and these writers wanted to know in reality as much as they possibly can manipulate the process. i think it was very interesting to see in the last few days and interview with peers, smoking, and one of the official is where the spokes person and morgan basically calling with this guy. because it became apparent that these writers don't have any statistics. a tool for the so called civilian, so they've killed only specifics on the so called thermos how most i'm molding made

the point if you haven't got the sophistic songs, villas, and everything you're doing, especially across, you know, you're just trying to con us probably over the eyes of everybody, what you know that there is there, there is some logic into tracking down these terrorist and can well, no specific names for this thing. spokes people are never really challenged by even, you know, remotely, a hard question. you're george, before we finish up this segment here. what happened to america 1st? i think that's a very good advice if, if america 1st that's going to be in a kind of america. but all this, like, i don't know the literally the america of joe mccain. this amazing kind of transformational maybe was my transformation. he was, i think, a largely a comb job. this suggest holy a america for us. yeah, we're not going to worry about anyone else. but that's kind of what john mccain used to say. the last thing we want to do is worry about what the lease slimy europeans have to say, or what this asians have to say. we just do whatever we want to do. and so it

becomes a full circle. america 1st is just in great bush mccain republican as well. where is donald trump and all of this? he doesn't seem to be pushing back. i mean, again, i mean, you know that that's what he's got is his policy is supposed to be, but i don't see him saying at last 30 seconds started before we go to the board. i think i think trump is just hoping that this issue will just go away and he can just avoid saying anything or doing anything that's got on time in eyes. uh anyone . so he's just simply keeps repeating the same mantra state. it didn't happen when i was president. it wouldn't have happened if i were president. that's. that's totally recess. yeah. but do you know that that is the, the, the, is the strategy about power not to say anything and hope that the subject will be changed. that's just pure cowardice, unfortunately, but i think the entire political class is coward and cowardice and a lack of moral compass is martin city of gentlemen. i'm going to jump in here.

we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real and stay with our to the what is part of the, the employee would posted. is it the defense you of us in that, in the word? or is it something deeper, more complex might be present? good. let's stop without cases. let's go out of are known in vietnam, american war, the vietnam war lost it for almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any time right now. and then you don't see it now. why didn't all i'm empty?

hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. i got the most that not, but the american soldiers murdered resistors mercilessly burned down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. and lee lead up day by. all right. did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did and on the via the means veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that way. it's too late to but yeah, the

welcome back to the prospect bullhorn john peter and well here were discussing some real news. i'm a martin, let me go to you. um, you know, the, you know, here in moscow we just celebrated victory day in europe to 79th anniversary. of course, that is a staple. here it's, it's one of the most important dates in the calendar, in russia for very good reasons. so we really don't know the need to go into here, but that date is, is rapidly disappearing as a day to commemorate in the west. so i would even go further. you know, the more you, with every passing here it's, it's almost is if the soviet union, 1st of all, wasn't in the war or it was the enemy. but it, there is very little recognition of its role in the defeat of fascism in europe. in 1945 martin. yeah. and that's i think that's, it's interesting that you know, picking that up perhaps because we go to innovation. but i wonder if younger people,

even really, even though stunned, even on the to, you know, we, we, we all at brushing us out slowly but gradually, because the leads want us to make no reference to the role of russia. but in the 2nd level, as you said, and um, and i think this as a re send reflection on the direction that we go. right. you know, is that if in georgia, as i mentioned before previously or last week, so you know this way uh, what would the, the lead some managing to basically break down, eradicates and destroy oh liberties, old free spiritual debates. now old revolt in the mountain itself. now, history is being horribly skewed and why? because there is this under this underlying initiative from the west to basically put royce a little to get like a bicycle and have an east and west. and you know, this is where we're heading and this is this little pause, increased defense spending, and basically gave short time to school games for the lease, the standard pallet,

and also very clever long term gains. of course, you know, what does that leave the hundreds of american companies invest in china, for example, that's just want to take a minute. breaks is expanding very, very rapidly. and i think it's important for the americans and the british to celebrate the day the nominee landings. but beyond that, you know, we're not going to see much. i mean, in the last week we had a lot about a hold. of course, you know, i saw on twist of people talking about some, 02 is people who are afraid that that we will also forget to hold a call. so my argument back on twitter was how can we forget the whole course when the is ranges or reminding us that every single day with the genocide and guns, you know, we're never going to forget holocaust because people don't think but well, that's a repeat of transmit in the last 1945, all the way to where we go today and this time, you know, the genocide is supported by the american thinking to get out of the get out of jail free call to you know and know probably be more kind of busy from any

international court, what a joke, you know, even the votes and the un general assembly just recently would seem to be very encouraging. i. a lot of people drew some sort of some comfort from the fact that now palestine can, at least in principle, consider itself to be a possible stage. you know, but that will hinges on the un security council giving up the front of it. and we'll know that budget ministration are going to be to that. however, going back to georgia point, trump or your point, where does this leave trump and puts? i think, i think that's a big thing for trump. because that puts even more focus on him from the middle east, in the hold of the middle east, specially waiting to come back, you know, and not necessarily because they loved trump so much, but they just don't see any mileage at all in the bundle ministration. so they've been questioned now can be if trump did come back, would he do the unthinkable when he pressed that button? the thing is to say that it seems more more obvious georgia that if time comes back we've got george. we did john mccain again. i mean,

big it is no matter who you volkhart, did john mccain and, you know, they, they would say with the topic of history here. george, i mean it's, it's very interesting is that, you know, you know, i, you know, i just watched a number of documentaries about the 2nd world war. they're very old ones. okay. and, and then i look at the media coverage, whatever coverage there is. and you'll get the impression that the americans won the war by invading on d day and they liberated the camps. that's, that's kind of the new history to yes, that is, that is a history. so you've got to talk of a world war 2 accounts, which is where you've got a burden. you know, the battle of brevity defeated, defeating the nazi germany. then you've got the day and then the liberation of europe. and that's pretty much it. and so the v e day, which used to be quite a big deal. well that's kind of now disappeared and so everybody's waging with

excitement with bated breath bully of the a t s and the 3 of the d. d landings, which is going to be a very big event. it's going to be, you know, member of the game. russell will then be present as who is playing a very minor, if any role in the whole thing. where is it goes to even when it comes to d day or so, the soviet union played a very big role because it also had the coincide with the they had mounted to the cues offensive, which ultimately led to late the collapse of nazi germany. so we played a very big role in these a that associates a fastball fan and was involved all the, the, the planning. and in george, i mean if you look at the historical record, know, you know, it's very difficult to, you know, when we like, way we talk about ukraine a lot, the conflict there. we don't know. in retrospect, we'll find out what if we were at the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning because you're in the middle of it. but when we look at the history of the 2nd world war in, you know, 79 years after the, the,

and the defeat of the nazis is that it was quite obvious by, by june 1944. the outcome of the war was a certain, um, be the ability for nazi germany at satellites through a generate a new major offensive been the east was 0 and they've okay in the, in the, our den later. but that was very short term. but during the war was of the essentially determined. okay. and now i know you, we have the d date landings and it could have only happened is there it will be because of the soviet success in the east? british athletic. yes, exactly. that's the best way. and them, what i think is also important that by june 1944, the uh, the west, the allies, uh, were quite concerned because they knew that the, a major soviet victory was in the all saying they have just the piece as well. that it goes away, hold back any longer delay of the invasion of europe any longer. you know,

there may not be any need for the west and allies. you know, the red army would just be the sweep of westwood without any issues. but even when he comes to the of the, the, the landings, the germans are still concentrating most of their forces in the east rather than the west. because that's what they were afraid. although afraid of the red army breaking through and occupying the whole of germany. so they really went that worried about the, the british and the americans. it was late late in the soviet break, so they can sell them. but what's also interesting is this in yahoo. so it was speaking of the russian an easy and a few days ago getting commemorate daily, horrible as remembrance they any said, no one came to the assistance of the jews. yeah, we was, jews were sold that no one came to the assistance of issues. and now this, this is the thing, let's get, gets repeated over and over again. they think millions of all,

millions of people in the soviet union died to defeat nazi germany. it was a, they came and they, these again, they lived a rate the times one can bought for another, as a liberated by the red army, all of the alphabet bleak, everyone we have liberated by the read on it. and you have the know, the say, no one came to into our systems. well, you know, the history is now being completely rewritten. yeah. but one of the reasons why it's being written, martin, is that they have the that there is the intent to deny the suffering of the peoples of the soviet union in the defeat of nazi germany. so if you, if you will greet, generate a narrative where you're not there, then if you weren't there, then weren't, you didn't suffer. and that's one of the things that they want to avoid. and you know, you know, the, the, i can remember um, uh, uh, an american woman talking about, um, uh, and now the red army conquered you

a hungry and i pointed out to her, i said, you know, the red army loss said 600000 troops, deliberate that small country and you don't want to recognize that there's, there's this lack of input, the lack of rec, recognition. and at the end of the day gentlemen, is always about security. it's not moralizing. you know, it's easy. rightfully so to demonize the, the nazis but stolen or um go to bed, shop or pool. it doesn't really matter. they have rushes security at heart and there's again rush. it has no security requirements, only the west, those when you knock the the so be you need out of the more then you we shuffle the deck when it comes to security. even martin. yeah. i think i'd have to agree with you, but i think, you know, what historians in general is tend to not look too carefully at what killed referred to. as you know, as

a detail land is we're only really made possible by the feet of germany and russian operation. but the rosa was a colossal mean military faith, spectacular to say that. but why with the germans? what was it the advancing eastward, mainly to look for more oil. and the main reason why the deadline is repulsive was because of the time of the june 9044. the germans had no, no real efforts to speak of. by that time, they basically run out fuel and they went on to find that surround the even to find a few places they have possibly, the, the deadlines would have up in a very, very different story. if the, if the ethel associated types and they still have to numbers in the planes to get out to, to, to provide. so i think we need to put that on into context. but, you know, we're not looking at middle to contact. the last thing makes sense, he doesn't tell you, look at my operation powers that i'm drawing any of lessons from it. so you know, the future is, is, is a blink on what it was. and yeah, yeah, but i mean to death. i'm glad you brought that up right martin, because that's exactly how the russians see it. okay. i mean, they may see

a collective west. they know, again in a, in, in the, in this year, in the, in, in 1941, the us who is not already in, wasn't in the war already, but in 2022. you have the complete collective west. okay. and, but it also is on their mike the russians, but that is george city. that's exactly right. and that's the way they look at they've been, they've mentioned this many times before, but essentially it black present to them. this. the soviets, with a united european continent interest, pretty much the united europe and government that ever. everyone had been, um, it was, this has had been defeated. most of the governments of, uh, your up at that time to bought in the invasion. you know, it was as hungry a romania, uh, you know, even even from said the but, and this notion is the thing. yeah, that's kind of what we've got now. and worse of because we've, we've,

we've also got the united states and great britain, which had these burden wasn't, was not all the oh, based on the side of hip live in 1941. but they're still really big, you know, just a year or 2 earlier, a great burden has had wanted to attack the soviet union. unfortunately, gentlemen were, but in time, but the video history doesn't prepaid, but it does echo, and we've just proved on this program. what i think, my guess in budapest, any medication of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here, are to see you next time. and remember, most like rules. the, [000:00:00;00]

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