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this to alice d. r gave me the yvonne who says that while the president opposes the bill, has been to could easily be overtime by falling on my will degree that it's a kind of symbolic step because really part of you can use italy. we're come now these uh nobody to, let's say like piece and she was telling good about these, you know, the base. she's all going to be slow and the she supports these, the governmental organization, the so position party and, but it's like the parliament and we made like few days for this. probably no improvement to be slow east. the so dangerous for georgia a. so why you these have uh, uh, categories, main verse old to, to appear new and you know that the similar, oh, i said it's more and it's, it's uh, money pollution and like express single,
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most hundreds while the around. so this news out as always, great to have the company up next cost to with peter level, he shows and join us at the top of the out the
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hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter live out . western relates endlessly declare, they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the pro stock in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in the kitchen or we have roberts latina. he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and kashmir. and until then we crossed to mohammed mirandi. he was a professor at the university of touring, right? filming cross type roles and the fact that means you can tell me anytime you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st. so you're a resident in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed
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a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution, or am i getting something wrong to? this is the constitution of the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. i, peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself a lining with people that i swore i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod larry now adler with jerry nod lower. who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality is a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violent or excuse me, probations against the thought. the for the i, the age of the bad you semitism is again, the notion of, of free speech is unconstitutional. i just heard you're not gonna believe this from
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the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit, a woman say that she's concerned about i. d is being discussed on campuses that deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, heads, and bands associated with terrors. i'm going to get is this a co fee? yeah, i think he what is happening? one minute we have the n y, b, d, r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about id ation. thought, and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police. i worry about is the 5 digit land to use because if you watch fox news, oh my god and we get what, what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly. mohammed into then again, you know, there were uh, the rules based order. uh, they like to echo, but look what they did to the students at the university of california,
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los angeles, they allowed visual land t's. they come in and clear those students using extreme force. and from what i understand, the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, you know, what is amazing, is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on and you see as a wild people in the united states are in the east coast. maybe a sleep people in asia are watching the video, visual aunties crush the protesters. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they pretend to support. and
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not only is this rule based order, very different from what we are told it was supposed to be to be. but the united states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street, making sure that nothings left a toy as early as a single robbery, as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide? what's called? it's called them what they should be called. okay. protests. we had the slaughter continue in cost so. so it's very interesting. we said, all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backings to it whatsoever. what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the united states for breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like a facial them in the united states. the what the, what to do about of crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't
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get it. you can't make this stuff up. robert. know you can't. and it's kind of shocking to think that in the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the uh, the ad type is real participants visual. be able to submit a this is this is an, has for. busy a long time because even before it couldn't been caught in a fight and lost the professors are afraid to talk about in your class. if they're talking about a colonialism, maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism if they say yes is. busy palestine, they can get in trouble for that. it makes students feel uncomfortable. well, if you're in university, you're going to get a comfortable sometimes that just comes with the territory. because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned,
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benjamin netanyahu tell him, tonight, it states that they have to, to, to squash these or crush these, these protests who is the leader of any other country, let alone one that's been declared. and a part i presume by, by several very respect was human rights organizations to tell you, lighted states how to deal with campus protest. this is actually, this is bizarre, this is unreal. it's likely fall down some, some rabbit holes somewhere. yeah. and we, and we have in the haven't learn any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes to international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite administration or the us to cut off is real. also a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration. se israel's actions do not comply with us and international law. mean these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's,
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it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong lines. i even know where, where it just started with or something to be still a couple of things that here is this, the same people, gentlemen who, who, who and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protestors? many of these people were just standing there, or they were part of a washington tour, or they said, hey, what's all this noise next week? you know, they're, they're, they're corralled and thrown into an underground. go log for the, for god knows how long. and they argued against it. we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to me and passive and hard. i'm not horrible isn't intellectually, but just the nicest she's you're standing there being cooperate by the police. and they said, well, she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part. the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before
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a self appointed spokesperson, an expert, the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service card had been discontinued and the can't get certain bottled water when there get this protesting against har ready. terrific. a did starvation in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora gay, the water. i mean, this is, i could, this is in say, and there's also can common to lead peaceful virility. your discussions never discussed, never mentioned by anybody in mainstream media, constructive jose, uh, a palestinian talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah, it would be the interesting thing is that it seems to me that again, these protests are, need to be covered. we're discussing them right. now,
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but there is a defense of being organized against profit, and i think with this passage of this legislation center will go along with it. you know, of course, this is just proforma, but they, they want to shut down any discussion and debate when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones. go ahead mom and but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when there's riley machine will also fail on the ground as it has already failed and causes a city in the north and elsewhere. what will happen in the united states? well, the students and other students remain quiet or well, the anger and discontent grow. and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do what, what ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this?
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when they see on the one hand the united states is crushing descent when it's sending funds to u. c. l, a to beat and bad. are these students who as your guest, right? the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the the, the u. s. regime. they're protesting about what another regime is doing to you know, to, to wipe out the palestinian people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof uh, begin is only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out to ron or moscow, what do they see? the, the united states as free and tap ron and moscow as authoritarian. they don't see it that way. any more. why?
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because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the world has collapsed right now when i speak. i recently, i had an interview with piers morgan, and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this matter. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so, but this is, i think the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up? here's morgan because he had on the professor mirrors chime or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a host embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and a triple out. and it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube, that he was so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troops. okay. that's i,
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i think that's a foreshadowing. what we're going to see more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here and we're gonna go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state bar to the car executive. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do you have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the waiting thing. the
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due date in 34 france invaded algeria and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the column is known as the new wires to the best land. from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was briefly exploited. these caused them as discontent. the people of l g area began their long term bite for independence. in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress, to rebuild you and using cruel measures. whole villages were wiped out acts of georgia and executions of civil people including pregnant women children and old
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people took place more than 2000000 people were born into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help. cl, jerry and patriot managed to induce france to start seize negotiations in 1962 heavy and the cords were assigned 40 l. jerry on the bass towards the independence . but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the depths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. the welcome make the cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing policy, the the right, let's go to and robert here robert, it's very interesting. they,
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in the waiting times, it comes to israel, it's always an exception. it's different uh they, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on and that's an yeah, who's campaign against the, obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia with all to the middle east. and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works out the way you expect it to. and they're trying and again, these people have no learning curve and professor mirandi is absolutely right there . they're soft power of abilities are dissipating or it's gone. go ahead, robert. yes it, it never works because the united states, other western governments forget that people in different countries have loyalty to their countries. they have uh, a. busy that they want their, their governments to run, they don't want to be forced into some kind of
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a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953, i believe, was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop. and he will for doing 30 years. i believe it was until the people of iran river over to him, and it's taught a government to their liking. now, any government has problems, any government issues, they're going to be some people that disagree with certain government policies. doesn't mean the one over to the government, and they tell me doesn't mean that they want a government forced by the united states to be, to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the forthcoming rasa innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody and how the, this new blog repressing dissent is going to play out in it. people who are protesting know that they're following all, all the rules that the government sets for their,
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their protest. the purchase is worthless. it's, it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to have 2 days. notice that they're gonna have a protest, they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's a waste of time. they might just will not bother. they're going to take action. that is going to get them publicity and get what i'm well, i mean a rubber today. i agree with you. i mean, if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the student say this is what we're descending into the abyss right now. a little, you know, you love words, you know, again, this whole phrase um, but from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea, but i can get them a lot of trouble. i probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. well,
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either a couple of things to do this is you, you, you talking about great words. i go back to uh the words of our sen, daniel patrick moynihan, who brought up of flux, the nice mediately pill of occasion. one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people. what's going on at least here, and they give an example. there was a senator who said, because there was a talk of bite and bringing folks over from gaza to the united states. oh no, no, no, we can do that way. my wife won't because they're home my supporter and there i the ology and i. so i asked and somebody said, you know, you're right about that. because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the fun to know. cartels in gaza and you go to what are you talking about as a whole lot again, right now next they talk about ideology. i said why wasn't anybody interested? it's in the, as all battalion and right sector and neo nazis in ukraine. you. so just stick with
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your program, i'll go along with you, but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way, i sound like the most unpatriotic only in america. could you pull this off where you could save the most? blatantly loaded chris, hypocritical nonsense and nobody will call you out because we don't know because remember in, in here how much gaza is real. but if this is gone low of term, what does managed to email that line? oh it's, it's a web realism. okay. and it's toxic and it can kill you and it certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed. one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention it in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a zine, this machine that is run by a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it, okay?
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and what we have is designed ization of the west, okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes, and it is, it is the starting the rest, the west. and but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer boot town that 2 of this right of the machine, people are waking up to this fact. the reason why they're passing this law is big is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how this ravings and design this lobby, which by the way, is there more christian scientists, as we all know, then jewish scientists and the many scientists who are secular. so this is, has nothing to do with do days. and many jews are completely against this genocide, and this really regime in the same is with chris christians and others. but there's really, really doesn't care about the united states. it doesn't here i oh, yeah,
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is willing to sacrifice the credit ability and the image of the united states for its own sake. there's really prime minister says, crushed defense and a crush dissent. there's really regime calls on the united states to silence these picked these young people and these people will be scientists. what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united image abroad, but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to a reality, which is almost ex, exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah, there's because, but they realize that they are brave, but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are. cowards. ok. it's interesting, robert, you to be up until october 7th. is it that should be the center of everything? was it was an important day, but there's
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a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world, particularly americans that are intentionally unimed and educated about this is that remember the phrase, it's complicated that was always it of, oh just because it's been going on along the, it's complement that's no longer the case. people are being educated, they're educating themselves, it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are. the fact the idea that this is complicated is just a minute to spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the very obedient meals. busy for decades, it isn't complicated at all. it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are in trying, united nation step, united states has signed onto and united states as violate them. record is violated its own laws to lady law, for example, which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach
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a certain minimal standard of human rights, is here it is what comes nowhere near close to that. there are other domestic laws that it, it violates there's a big complicated about this. this is not a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army. navy, no military whatsoever, and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not a war. so it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades as israel has attempted with some success to erase palestine by stealing land, displacing member of palestinians and killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know,
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line one of the big problems about getting to controlling this narrative. what, what's going on in god's, in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and, and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah, that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one . this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening to. i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i think he oh my god, he makes sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election, and donald trump's going to win this thing, and if he ever thanks anybody, he'll say, i want to say joe biden. i want to thank this ridiculousness because gentlemen, what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey,
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that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know, we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the sea, is daily then with in tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back towards out to $9068.00 order law and order next in chicago. look at what people doing is you idiots. you solely show the final. i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the problem with my home and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans and we have democrats here in there on the wrong these leaders are on the wrong side of history and i think that's why there's a class. it will be
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a societal class against the lead. so you've got one minute go ahead. i think that's a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly people across the board are going to see that trump will be no different than biden. and that is going to create even further this illusion meant among americans. they will see increasingly that the united states is not a democracy. is one a despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on almost every being almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately the, you know, this is a way if, if the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find ourselves exactly in the same dreadful place. gentlemen, that's all the time we have one to, thanks my guess is not in kitchen or new york and into that. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc. you next time. remember, prospect the
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