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still roll out the from the 5th floor side entrance. that's where it will happened. it'll collapsed. the balcony was left behind. we went home at the time of the attack, we just come out and we went home. that's what we were wearing when we went out. my daughter and i were trapped that because there was no way down. for 2 hours, we waited for the rescue team to get us down from the 8th floor. it's a 3 bedroom flat. my main windows face the other side, there's only a balcony of the lounge. everything of course, still that i managed to take my documents, my dog, some things and a change of underwear. the situation remains volatile. and so it means that sounding 10 to the doesn't, as a city fights is a constant, the rest of attack, as we were forced to take cover several times, while filming at the scene of sundays, the talk with you crying. continuing to talk at the area, physicians at the time in the space of just one hour that we think for us to
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accommodate each day assignments will be sounding overhead. loss from the defenses have been in this guy's a, this is daily life now for the people, the city of belgrade, as you cry and continues to talk with somebody. and as you can see in the shelter now, this is in the apartment process k one to 5 and ukraine on sunday and emotions. here we're running very high. the hope remains that the russian had volunteers on the past who failed. we'll provide the buffer zone on some relief for the people of belgrade. this is steve sweeney fidelity builder of city sign. they fully go. we have some breaking news just in from the russian ministry of defense. they say that the rest of the army has made major law offices on multiple funds among the key regions. the games made around the hall cove and zap a rosier reach. and they also say that it was about 24 hours inquiry and has lost a 1000 troops. who else will be bringing you all the details in the next hour?
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so i'd say to it as well, that's all for may for today, as always, going to have your company might call it rates a rouble will be with you in the top of the hour. i be do a very good the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. western relates endlessly declare they are virtuous because of their so called
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values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the prospect in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in the kitchen or we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and cashmere. and until then we crossed to mohammed mirandi, who's a professor at the university of jerome. right? told me in cross type roles and effective means you can jump me anytime you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st here, you're our resident in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution,
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or am i getting something wrong? this is the constitution, the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. i peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself a lining with people that i swore i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod larry now adler with jerry and adler, who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality, is as a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violate or excuse me, probations against the slot the, for the age of the bad you, some of them is against the notion of free speech is unconstitutional. i just heard you're not gonna believe this from the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit, a woman say that she's concerned about. i d is being
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discussed on campuses that deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, heads and bands associated with terrorism. going to get is this a co fee? yeah, i think he what is happening? one minute we have the n y, p d r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about i the ation thoughts and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police. i worry about if the 5 digit land these because if you watch fox news. oh my god, because what, what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly, mohammed and so then again, you know, there were uh, the rules based order. uh, they like to echo, but look what they did to the students at the university of california, los angeles. they allowed vigilantes to come in and clear those students using
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extreme force. and from what i understand the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, you know, what is amazing is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york, on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on. and you see how a wild people in the united states are in the east coast, maybe a sleep. people in asia are watching the video, visual aunties crush the protesters. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they pretend to support, and not only is this ruled base order, very different from what we are told it was supposed to be to be. but the united
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states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street, making sure that nothings left well, it certainly is the same robbery as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide? what's called? it's called them what they should be called. okay. pro test. we had the slaughter continue in cost is always very interesting. was it? all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backing to it whatsoever. what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the united states from breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like official them in the united states, the what the, what to do about a crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't get it. you can't make this stuff up. robert know you can't and it's kind of shocking to think that
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in the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the the ad type is real protests against israel be submitted. this is, this is and has for a long time because even before, it could've been caught in a fight and lost the professors are afraid to talk about in your class. if they're talking about a colonialism, maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism if they say yes is. busy palestine, they can get in trouble for that. it makes students feel uncomfortable. well, if you're in university, you're going to get comfortable. sometimes it just comes with the territory because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu tell gunite it states that they have just to, to squash these or crush these, these protests who is the leader of any other country,
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let alone one that's been declared. and a part that we're seeing by, by several very respectful human rights organizations to tell you lighted states how to deal with campus protests. this is actually, this is bizarre, this unreal is likely fall down some, some rabbit holes somewhere. yeah. and we, and we have in the haven't learn any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes to international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite administration or the us to cut off is real. also a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration. se israel's actions do not comply with us and international law. mean these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's, it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong. line. i'll, even though we're, we're just starting with
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a something to be still a couple of things out here. is this the same people, gentlemen who, who, who and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protestors. many of these people were just standing there or they were part of a washington tour, or they said, hey, what's all this noise next? week, you know, they're, they're, they're corralled and thrown into an underground, go log for the for god knows how long. and they argued against it. we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to me and passive and hard. i'm not horrible isn't intellectually, but just the nicest she's you're standing there being cooperate by the police and they said, well, she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part. the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before a self appointed spokesperson, an expert, the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service card had been
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discontinued and that they can't get certain bottled water when they are get this protesting against hard. terrific, a did starvation in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora gay, the water. i mean this is, i could, this is in say, and there's also can common to lead peaceful virility. your discussions never discussed, never mentioned by anybody in mainstream media, constructive jose, uh, a palestinian talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah, it would be the interesting thing is that it seems to me that again, these protests are, need to be covered. we're discussing them right. now, but there is a defense of being organized against profit, and i think with this passage of this legislation center will go along with it. you know, of course, this is just proforma, but they,
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they want to shut down any discussion and debate when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones go ahead moment but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when there's riley regime will also fail on the ground as it has already failed and causes a city in the north and elsewhere. what will happen in the united states will be students and other students remain quiet or well. the anger and discontent grow. and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do what, what ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this? when they see on the one hand the united states is crushing descent when it's sending funds to u. c. l a to beat and bat are the students who ask your guest,
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right? the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the the, the u. s. regime, they're protesting about what another regime is doing to, you know, to, to wipe out the power sending people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof begin is only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out to ron or moscow, what do they see? the, the united states as free and tap ron and moscow as authoritarian. they don't see it that way. any more. why? because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the
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world has collapsed right now when i speak. uh i recently, i had an interview with piers morgan, and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this now. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so. but this is, i think, the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up? here's martin because he had on the professor mirror showing me or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a host embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and a triple out. and it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube anyways. so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troops. ok, that's i, i think that's a foreshadowing. what we're going to see more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here and we're gonna go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on powers by state bar to
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the the taking. it reminds me that i'm late for very important dates, which means it's time to slip down the rabbit hole and into a world russian time. the
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the local banks across stock where all things are considered on peter level command, you were discussing policy on the right. let's go to robert here robert, it's very interesting. they indic waiting times. it comes to is real. it's always an exception. it's different. uh they, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on a minute, nothing. yeah. whose campaign against the, obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of
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a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia and went all through the middle east. and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works. house the way you expected to, and they're trying it against these people have no learning curve, and professor mirandi is absolutely right there. they're soft power of abilities are dissipating or it's gone. go ahead, robert. yes, it never works because the united states, other wasn't governments. forget that people in different countries have loyalty to their countries. they have uh, a. busy that they want their, their governments to run, they don't want to be forced into some kind of a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953, i believe, was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop. and he will, for the 30 years, i believe it was until the people of iran river a ritual. hm. and it stopped like of it to the like. no,
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any government has problems. any government issues. there gonna be some people that disagree with certain government policies doesn't mean the one over to the government. and they say it doesn't mean that they want a government forced by the united states to be, to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the 4th, come me ross innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody at how the this new bar repressing descent is going to play out in it. people who are protesting know that they're following all the rules that the government sets for their, their protest. the protest is worthless. it's, it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to 2 days, notice that they're gonna have a protest, they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's a waste of time, which is will not bother. they're going to take action that is going to get them publicity and get what i'm well right. i mean it, robert say i agree with you. i mean,
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if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the students say this is what we're just sending into the abyss right now. line. oh, you know, you love words. you know, again, this whole phrase from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea. but i can get into a lot of trouble. i probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. tell you a couple of things to do. this is you, you, you talked about great words. i go back to the words of our senator daniel patrick moynihan, who brought up a flux the most nearly pill of occasion one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people what's going
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on at least here. let me give you the example. uh there was a senator who said, because there was a talk of bite and bringing folks over from gaza to the united states. oh no, no, no, we can do that way. my wife. well, because their home, my supporter and their id all night. so i asked somebody is it's, you know, you're right about that because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the fentanyl cartels in gaza and he goes, what are you talking about as a whole lot again, right now next they talk about ideology, i said, why wouldn't anybody be interested in the as all battalion and right sector, and neo nazis in ukraine? you so just stick with your program. i'll go along with you, but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way, i sound like the most unpatriotic only in america. could you pull this off where you could save the most? blatantly no, to chris, hypocritical nonsense. and nobody will call you why,
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because we don't know because remember in, in here how much gaza is real. but if this is this gumbo of term, what does managed to it's line? oh it's, it's a liberalism, ok, and it's toxic and it can kill you. and it's certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed, one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a zine this presume it is run by a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it, okay. and what we have is design ization of the west. okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes, and it is, it is the strong the rest, the west and the but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer boot town that to you this right of the machine. people are waking up to this
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fact, the reason why they're passing this law is big is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how there's ravings and design this lobby, which by the way, is there more christian scientists, as we all know, then jewish scientists. and there are many scientists who are secular. so this is has nothing to do with do days and many jews are completely against this genocide. and this really regime in the same is true with chris christians and others. but these really were she doesn't care about the united states. it doesn't here i oh, yeah, is willing to sacrifice the credit ability and the image of the united states for its own sake. there's really prime minister says, crushed defense and a crush this that there's really regime calls on the united states to silence these picked these young people and these people will be scientists. what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united image abroad,
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but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to a reality, which is almost ex, exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah, there's makers, but they realize that they are brave, but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are. cowards. ok. it's interesting, robert, you to be up until october 7th is if that should be the center of everything. it was, it was an important day, but there's a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world, particularly americans that are intentionally unimed and educated about this is that remember the phrase, it's complicated that was always it of, oh just because it's been going on along the, it's complement that's no longer the case. people are being educated, they're educating themselves,
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it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are. the fact, the idea that this is complicated is just a minute to spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the very obedient media for decades. it isn't complicated at all. it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are in trying and united nations that united states has signed onto and united states as violate them. guys as violate its own laws to lady law, for example, which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach a certain minimal standard of human rights as here it is real. comes nowhere near close to that. there are other domestic laws that it, it violates there's a big complicate about this. this is not a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army need,
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no military whatsoever. and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not a war, it's not, it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades as israel has attempted with some success to erase palestine by stealing land, displacing member of palestinians and killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know, line one of the big problems about getting to controlling this narrative. what, what's going on in god's, in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and, and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah,
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that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one . this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening to. i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i think he oh my god, he makes sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election and donald trump's going to win this thing, and if he ever thank anybody, he'll say, i want to say joe biden. i want to think this ridiculousness because gentlemen, what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey, that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know, we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the
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sea, is daily then with in tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back to watch, out of $9068.00 order law and order next in chicago. look at what people doing if you any, it's use solar show. the final i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the program with my home, and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans, and we have democrats here in there on the wrong. these leaders are on the wrong side of history. and i think that's what there's a class, it will be a societal clash against the lead. so you've got one minute go ahead. so i think that's a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly people across the board are going to see that trump will be no different than biden. and that is going to create even further disillusionment among americans. they will see increasingly
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that the united states is not a democracy. is one a despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on almost everything, almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately the, you know, this is a way if, if the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find ourselves exactly in the same dreadful place. gentlemen, that's all the time we have one to, thanks my guess is not in kitchen or new york and, and turn around. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our team. so you next time, remember across the show, they just don't have to shape out the application and engagement because the trail
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when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look for common ground, the to take a fresh look around as a life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians fixtures design to simplify. it will confuse who really wants a better wills and is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the
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the freshman forces take another 2 villages in the heart of region as well as the key frontline town of rubber tino and this upper rose or province the while you at the top diplomat and to the blank and rocked out on guitar at a concert interior of ukraine lost an estimated $1000.00 troops over the past 24 hours. latimer put in praises of russia's strengthening relations with china as the russian president is set to visit bay during this week. it will be his 1st trip abroad after his present and occupation and as israel.

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